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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 August 2016, 08:18:52
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If you don't buy THEIR ssd option , they LOCK the M.2 Sata port.... (no way to enable)
If you buy THEIR-SSD, and it's M.2 Sata, they LOCK NVME option...
If you buy THEIR-SSD, and it's NVME, they LOCK M.2 Sata option....
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This is like, Almost twice as bad as Lenovo with their bios wifi and battery whitelist...
They are really being ****s..
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HP has been trash ever since the DV6/7/9 series with the horrible nvidia chips constantly failing and then again with the Pavilion G6 series fans breaking every 4 months.
TLDR don't buy hp its crap
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HP has been trash ever since the DV6/7/9 series with the horrible nvidia chips constantly failing and then again with the Pavilion G6 series fans breaking every 4 months.
TLDR don't buy hp its crap
wellll.. the fan thing happens for ALOT of laptops, that isn't just HP..
But this Bios lock issue is a bit unforgivable...
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Back in the dv6000 days, they used to key the wireless cards to the bios. No upgrading the wireless card, no replacing it if it breaks. youre ****ed. Ive never been a fan of hp laptops. lower end quality wise, and never had good experience with them.
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Back in the dv6000 days, they used to key the wireless cards to the bios. No upgrading the wireless card, no replacing it if it breaks. youre ****ed. Ive never been a fan of hp laptops. lower end quality wise, and never had good experience with them.
Well...... it's hard to pin down exactly what quality is, Since all of these come from the same factories..
But overall, the past few years, I've not seen much difference between the build quality of the plastic laptops between brands..
If we look at innards,, all of them have clean soldering,, decent layouts..
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Back in the dv6000 days, they used to key the wireless cards to the bios. No upgrading the wireless card, no replacing it if it breaks. youre ****ed. Ive never been a fan of hp laptops. lower end quality wise, and never had good experience with them.
Well...... it's hard to pin down exactly what quality is, Since all of these come from the same factories..
But overall, the past few years, I've not seen much difference between the build quality of the plastic laptops between brands..
exactly why I buy used thinkpads
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This is like, Almost twice as bad as Lenovo with their bios wifi and battery whitelist...
It's not an issue with Lenovo.
Yes, Lenovo does whitelist batteries and wifi, but it's not a problem, you can get modded bios to fix it. All of my Lenovos (I've owned about half a dozen) have had the whitelist removed, takes about 5 minutes of research and work.
Hp on the other hand...
Last I saw no one had been able to mod the bios on newer models.
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This is like, Almost twice as bad as Lenovo with their bios wifi and battery whitelist...
It's not an issue with Lenovo.
Yes, Lenovo does whitelist batteries and wifi, but it's not a problem, you can get modded bios to fix it. All of my Lenovos (I've owned about half a dozen) have had the whitelist removed, takes about 5 minutes of research and work.
Hp on the other hand...
Last I saw no one had been able to mod the bios on newer models.
Can't flash the Newer lenovos though..
Only old ones...
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This is like, Almost twice as bad as Lenovo with their bios wifi and battery whitelist...
It's not an issue with Lenovo.
Yes, Lenovo does whitelist batteries and wifi, but it's not a problem, you can get modded bios to fix it. All of my Lenovos (I've owned about half a dozen) have had the whitelist removed, takes about 5 minutes of research and work.
Hp on the other hand...
Last I saw no one had been able to mod the bios on newer models.
Can't flash the Newer lenovos though..
Only old ones...
yeah, and the newer lenovos have other issues. I wont touch anything newer than my x230. not sure what im going to do after it is terribly obsolete.
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yeah, and the newer lenovos have other issues. I wont touch anything newer than my x230. not sure what im going to do after it is terribly obsolete.
Well....
I think if Intel Xpoint comes out for m.2 formfactor..
It would make the majority of our beloved legacy lenovo line horribly obsolete..
So.... yea... there's that..
But other than NVME xpoint.. nothing's really changed on the portable front..
You could argue power reductions, but it's already beyond the necessity of most.. If you need more than 2 hours of computing, plan the day at home and over vpn, it's just better and faster.
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yeah, and the newer lenovos have other issues. I wont touch anything newer than my x230. not sure what im going to do after it is terribly obsolete.
Well....
I think if Intel Xpoint comes out for m.2 formfactor..
It would make the majority of our beloved legacy lenovo line horribly obsolete..
So.... yea... there's that..
But other than NVME xpoint.. nothing's really changed on the portable front..
You could argue power reductions, but it's already beyond the necessity of most.. If you need more than 2 hours of computing, plan the day at home and over vpn, it's just better and faster.
The msata ssd I currently have is plenty fast enough for me. I just dont know what to do when It either inevitably dies or becomes years and years obsolete.
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This is like, Almost twice as bad as Lenovo with their bios wifi and battery whitelist...
It's not an issue with Lenovo.
Yes, Lenovo does whitelist batteries and wifi, but it's not a problem, you can get modded bios to fix it. All of my Lenovos (I've owned about half a dozen) have had the whitelist removed, takes about 5 minutes of research and work.
Hp on the other hand...
Last I saw no one had been able to mod the bios on newer models.
Can't flash the Newer lenovos though..
Only old ones...
From what I've read:
They removed the wifi whitelist for the __50 and__60, however batteries may still be whitelisted.
At this point, pretty much only the __40 series is completely locked down and it was only bios locked after the 2.0 update. If you can find one with the older, original bios, it can still be modded. While possible, I don't know if anyone has done so (I have no need to dig further).
I have no reason to get newer than a 30 series, the 40+ got UL processors.
On my x220 I can get about 4-6hours on my 6 cell while browsing in Mint Cinnamon or Windows, and about 9-10 on my 9 cell depending on brightness.
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Can't flash the Newer lenovos though..
Only old ones...
From what I've read:
They removed the wifi whitelist for the __50 and__60, however batteries may still be whitelisted.
At this point, pretty much only the __40 series is completely locked down and it was only bios locked after the 2.0 update. If you can find one with the older, original bios, it can still be modded. While possible, I don't know if anyone has done so (I have no need to dig further).
I have no reason to get newer than a 30 series, the 40+ got UL processors.
On my x220 I can get about 4-6hours on my 6 cell while browsing in Mint Cinnamon or Windows, and about 9-10 on my 9 cell depending on brightness.
x220 uses so much power.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/lol1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862512)
I know i shouldn't use it no more, but I just can't let it go..
I got a 850pro 512 in mine, with 16gb 1866mhz ram, and I'm thinking about going to a wifi card other than intel for dpc reasons..
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This is like, Almost twice as bad as Lenovo with their bios wifi and battery whitelist...
It's not an issue with Lenovo.
Yes, Lenovo does whitelist batteries and wifi, but it's not a problem, you can get modded bios to fix it. All of my Lenovos (I've owned about half a dozen) have had the whitelist removed, takes about 5 minutes of research and work.
Hp on the other hand...
Last I saw no one had been able to mod the bios on newer models.
Can't flash the Newer lenovos though..
Only old ones...
From what I've read:
They removed the wifi whitelist for the __50 and__60, however batteries may still be whitelisted.
At this point, pretty much only the __40 series is completely locked down and it was only bios locked after the 2.0 update. If you can find one with the older, original bios, it can still be modded. While possible, I don't know if anyone has done so (I have no need to dig further).
I have no reason to get newer than a 30 series, the 40+ got UL processors.
On my x220 I can get about 4-6hours on my 6 cell while browsing in Mint Cinnamon or Windows, and about 9-10 on my 9 cell depending on brightness.
on my x230 with brightness all the way down with a 6 cell I can get about 4 hours of watching video and about 4 and a half hours of web browsing on windows 10. It was a new old stock battery I bought on ebay from a reputable seller. I pretty much pieced together mine from a stripped x230 I picked up off of ebay. 8gb ram, i5 3210m, 128gb msata ssd, 1tb hdd and a 6 cell battery. it was about 700 all put together about a year ago. still works like a dream. It was a huge upgrade from my x201 I had before.
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on my x230 with brightness all the way down with a 6 cell I can get about 4 hours of watching video and about 4 and a half hours of web browsing on windows 10. It was a new old stock battery I bought on ebay from a reputable seller. I pretty much pieced together mine from a stripped x230 I picked up off of ebay. 8gb ram, i5 3210m, 128gb msata ssd, 1tb hdd and a 6 cell battery. it was about 700 all put together about a year ago. still works like a dream. It was a huge upgrade from my x201 I had before.
It also depends on HOW you watch the video.
If you go through FULL dxva, and the regular presenter in MPCHC, you can get alot more battery life out of it.
If you go through High quality renderer like Madvr which uses GPU Shaders, divide that runtime time by 3..
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I'll probably not buy an HP again any time soon. I'm just not a fan of their designs at all. Also I had an HP Envy 1105-DX, upgraded to 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSHD and it was a great budget gaming laptop, but after only about a year and a half I started having overheating issues and motherboard issues (or maybe the HDD cable). I basically had to have it on a laptop cooler at all times or it would just shut itself off, and every few days it would tell me that there was no HDD installed (it started out every couple months, so I've put a few different hard drives in it thinking I just got lemons, but it gradually got worse so I knew it had to be something else). The trackpad was decent, but the clicks went pretty mushy/wobbly/jiggly after a couple years and the keyboard is not in great shape either. The battery only lasts about two hours.
Now I'm rocking a Lenovo T420 upgraded to 16GB of RAM and a 480GB SanDisk Ultra II SSD. So awesome for coding and other lightweight tasks. Sadly, due to the aging integrated graphics, it either can't handle games very well or they're just just flat-out not compatible. For example: I can play LoL ~40fps on medium at 720p, but when I used to play SWTOR I had to basically have the graphics all the way down in order for it to run smoothly, I can't even play any newer Blizzard games because they all tell me my graphics card isn't compatible, and Hacknet will launch but is unresponsive. Also, it's too thick for me to put it in my bag along with my camera and lenses. It'll all fit, but it's really bulky, so not great to take along when I'm walking around Yosemite or San Francisco.
I think the next one I get, as much as I hate to admit it because I'm not a fan of Apple, will probably be a MacBook Pro. I've used a ton of different laptops and nothing comes close in terms of overall feel i.m.o. The only reason I don't own one already is because of the price. The one I'd get, an upgraded 15", is ~$2,500 and that's really hard to justify when my T420 is still chugging along just fine.
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Tp4's getting old..
I'm only considering 17" at this point.. I can't see stuff on the ultraportables no more.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/stress-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862521)
They discontinued the 17" mac.. sigh............