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Title: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 10 August 2016, 20:43:23
Shattered the Crank on my Exercise Bike...

The slot where the pedal screws into the crank broke into 2 pieces.. It's freakin' Stainless steel..

Now I'm gonna become EVEN FATTER than How fat I Already am... Because I can't use the Exercise bike..


(http://img.emoticonplus.com/kaLS9.gif)
Title: Re: I'm So FAT
Post by: digi on Wed, 10 August 2016, 20:47:13
Damn son, you're gonna have to start buying Medium shirts now :))
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 10 August 2016, 20:55:43
Dear: Expert Handyman --Melvang--


In your opinion ,  Do you think I could reliably weld this,  given this small surface area...

I only have access to an electric cheapo welder atm..

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Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: chyros on Thu, 11 August 2016, 03:46:20
Why not buy an ACTUAL bike and go outside and cycle? :p
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 August 2016, 03:55:48
Why not buy an ACTUAL bike and go outside and cycle? :p

I did that for a bit..

Too time consuming..

If I'm exercising for 25 minutes..


Going outside requires at least 10 of those minutes..



Pants, Socks, Shoes,

Open Garage,

Wheel out bike,

Close Garage,

.
.
.
.
.


Wheel in bike,

Open Garage,

Close Garage

Shoes, Socks, Pants..






Exercise bike,   Put on my plastic slippers and GO.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/happy-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 11 August 2016, 06:46:04
Why not buy an ACTUAL bike and go outside and cycle? :p

I did that for a bit..

Too time consuming..

If I'm exercising for 25 minutes..


Going outside requires at least 10 of those minutes..



Pants, Socks, Shoes,

Open Garage,

Wheel out bike,

Close Garage,

.
.
.
.
.


Wheel in bike,

Open Garage,

Close Garage

Shoes, Socks, Pants..






Exercise bike,   Put on my plastic slippers and GO..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/happy-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)

They make stands to use the real bike inside. :D
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 August 2016, 06:53:05

They make stands to use the real bike inside. :D


Tried it..

It's super LOUD.. 
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 11 August 2016, 06:58:44
Dear: Expert Handyman --Melvang--


In your opinion ,  Do you think I could reliably weld this,  given this small surface area...

I only have access to an electric cheapo welder atm..

(Attachment Link)

No way you'll be able to weld that, it's cast steel.
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: chyros on Thu, 11 August 2016, 07:06:47
Why not buy an ACTUAL bike and go outside and cycle? :p

I did that for a bit..

Too time consuming..

If I'm exercising for 25 minutes..


Going outside requires at least 10 of those minutes..



Pants, Socks, Shoes,

Open Garage,

Wheel out bike,

Close Garage,

.
.
.
.
.


Wheel in bike,

Open Garage,

Close Garage

Shoes, Socks, Pants..






Exercise bike,   Put on my plastic slippers and GO..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/happy-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)

No, just use cycling as your sole means of outside locomotion. Don't use a car or public transport EVER. You can pretty strong legs from that ;) .
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: nugglets on Thu, 11 August 2016, 07:27:24

They make stands to use the real bike inside. :D


Tried it..

It's super LOUD.. 


I have one, it's certainly audible... but not much louder than a resistance bike.
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 August 2016, 07:57:33
Dear: Expert Handyman --Melvang--


In your opinion ,  Do you think I could reliably weld this,  given this small surface area...

I only have access to an electric cheapo welder atm..

(Attachment Link)

No way you'll be able to weld that, it's cast steel.

why can't weld cast steel ? (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/confused-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 August 2016, 07:58:57

Exercise bike,   Put on my plastic slippers and GO..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/happy-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)

No, just use cycling as your sole means of outside locomotion. Don't use a car or public transport EVER. You can pretty strong legs from that ;) .


Anything more than 300 meters, As I live in 'Murica, I feel obligated to drive..
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: chyros on Thu, 11 August 2016, 08:00:33

Exercise bike,   Put on my plastic slippers and GO..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/happy-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)

No, just use cycling as your sole means of outside locomotion. Don't use a car or public transport EVER. You can pretty strong legs from that ;) .


Anything more than 300 meters, As I live in 'Murica, I feel obligated to drive..
Yeah, don't do that :p .
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 11 August 2016, 11:24:22
TP, allow me to present a counterpoint....

Perhaps you're too swole now? Your legs are so rock hard that your bike just couldn't handle all that force...

:p
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 11 August 2016, 12:29:20
tp4, at least from the last photo you shared, you weren't fat enough to break cast steel.


tp, I think you may not be as fat as you think you are.  :))
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 11 August 2016, 12:42:20
Crank arms are super cheap tp. Just bring that one into one of those recycling bike shops and they'll hook you up. I've had a few strip out on me about the same time I broke a back derailleur hanger (tallest FL hills I guess). Pro Tip - stop over-tightening :-*
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 August 2016, 15:22:04
Crank arms are super cheap tp. Just bring that one into one of those recycling bike shops and they'll hook you up. I've had a few strip out on me about the same time I broke a back derailleur hanger (tallest FL hills I guess). Pro Tip - stop over-tightening :-*


This is non-removeable,  the whole assembly is welded.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bleeding-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862492)
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: Spopepro on Thu, 11 August 2016, 16:19:13
The whole assembly isn't welded. It's likely tapered interference fit, and requires a special tool to remove.

There's no way you could bond or weld that and get it to work. Fankly, if something breaks like that I wouldn't use anything made by that company. That's super scary and I'd expect other stuff to start falling apart.

The "thing that turns regular bike into a stationary" is called a trainer, and there are different kinds. Some use an impeller or fan, are the cheapest version, and are loud as ****. Some use magnetic resistance, are a bit more expensive, and can be kind of loud. Some have a sealed fluid resistance thing, are the most expensive, but are nearly silent. The tires you use can also make a bunch of noise, as you'll need to use something cheap and smooth.

Or you could really go for it and get a set of rollers:
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 August 2016, 16:47:56
The whole assembly isn't welded. It's likely tapered interference fit, and requires a special tool to remove.

There's no way you could bond or weld that and get it to work. Fankly, if something breaks like that I wouldn't use anything made by that company. That's super scary and I'd expect other stuff to start falling apart.

The "thing that turns regular bike into a stationary" is called a trainer, and there are different kinds. Some use an impeller or fan, are the cheapest version, and are loud as ****. Some use magnetic resistance, are a bit more expensive, and can be kind of loud. Some have a sealed fluid resistance thing, are the most expensive, but are nearly silent. The tires you use can also make a bunch of noise, as you'll need to use something cheap and smooth.

Or you could really go for it and get a set of rollers:

I assure you it's not a Taper Interference fit,  There is no slot for any tool Period..


The thing is welded from both sides..  You can tell the assembly is one piece from the factory, and then inserted into the chassis, then the outer rim welded on afterwards..

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/depressed1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862499)
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 11 August 2016, 16:50:54
Crank arms are super cheap tp. Just bring that one into one of those recycling bike shops and they'll hook you up. I've had a few strip out on me about the same time I broke a back derailleur hanger (tallest FL hills I guess). Pro Tip - stop over-tightening :-*


This is non-removeable,  the whole assembly is welded..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bleeding-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862492)


C'mon you're not fooling anyone with that cruiser brake (http://i.imgur.com/OfSWSXD.gif)

I'm surprised that you of all people would buy a bike that doesn't take a standard bottom bracket cartridge
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 11 August 2016, 17:46:30
Crank arms are super cheap tp. Just bring that one into one of those recycling bike shops and they'll hook you up. I've had a few strip out on me about the same time I broke a back derailleur hanger (tallest FL hills I guess). Pro Tip - stop over-tightening :-*


This is non-removeable,  the whole assembly is welded..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bleeding-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862492)


C'mon you're not fooling anyone with that cruiser brake
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OfSWSXD.gif)


I'm surprised that you of all people would buy a bike that doesn't take a standard bottom bracket cartridge

It's an exercise bike.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)


I never honestly expected this to break..   I've completely underestimated how Fat I am..
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 11 August 2016, 17:56:15
Crank arms are super cheap tp. Just bring that one into one of those recycling bike shops and they'll hook you up. I've had a few strip out on me about the same time I broke a back derailleur hanger (tallest FL hills I guess). Pro Tip - stop over-tightening :-*


This is non-removeable,  the whole assembly is welded..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bleeding-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862492)


C'mon you're not fooling anyone with that cruiser brake
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OfSWSXD.gif)


I'm surprised that you of all people would buy a bike that doesn't take a standard bottom bracket cartridge

It's an exercise bike..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)



I never honestly expected this to break..   I've completely underestimated how Fat I am..

Ohhhh, whoops THAT type of exercise bike
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 11 August 2016, 18:03:57
The whole assembly isn't welded. It's likely tapered interference fit, and requires a special tool to remove.

There's no way you could bond or weld that and get it to work. Fankly, if something breaks like that I wouldn't use anything made by that company. That's super scary and I'd expect other stuff to start falling apart.

The "thing that turns regular bike into a stationary" is called a trainer, and there are different kinds. Some use an impeller or fan, are the cheapest version, and are loud as ****. Some use magnetic resistance, are a bit more expensive, and can be kind of loud. Some have a sealed fluid resistance thing, are the most expensive, but are nearly silent. The tires you use can also make a bunch of noise, as you'll need to use something cheap and smooth.

Or you could really go for it and get a set of rollers:

OR

you could ride your bike... outside!  :eek:
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 11 August 2016, 18:28:01
I'm so fat I sometimes take one microwave meal and just dump it on top of another one. They don't even have to be the same type, I've dumped bacon macaroni onto orange chicken I don't give a ****.
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 August 2016, 06:17:01
I'm so fat I sometimes take one microwave meal and just dump it on top of another one. They don't even have to be the same type, I've dumped bacon macaroni onto orange chicken I don't give a ****.

Pretty sure Every one did this.. At least when I ate microwave meals when younger..


I've moved onto pretty much exclusively Ramen though...
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: jaffers on Fri, 12 August 2016, 07:34:46
Dear: Expert Handyman --Melvang--


In your opinion ,  Do you think I could reliably weld this,  given this small surface area...

I only have access to an electric cheapo welder atm..

(Attachment Link)

No way you'll be able to weld that, it's cast steel.

That looks more like powdered metal to me
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 12 August 2016, 08:07:44
I think this part was weakened due to the chroming.. Damn you Hydrogen..
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: chyros on Fri, 12 August 2016, 09:28:06
I think this part was weakened due to the chroming.. Damn you Hydrogen..
What did hydrogen ever do to you? :p
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 12 August 2016, 10:07:17
Went out last night and saw a picture of me. I'm forming a double chin.  :'(
5'9" and 170lbs. Gotta start doing more cardio exercise and eating more proper portions.
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: SBJ on Sat, 13 August 2016, 02:07:01
Went out last night and saw a picture of me. I'm forming a double chin.  :'(
5'9" and 170lbs. Gotta start doing more cardio exercise and eating more proper portions.
Proper portions is my problem as well.
I tend to get a little too much.
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 13 August 2016, 03:04:00
I heard eating more slowly helps with the portion control
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: Melvang on Sun, 14 August 2016, 02:18:33
Dear: Expert Handyman --Melvang--


In your opinion ,  Do you think I could reliably weld this,  given this small surface area...

I only have access to an electric cheapo welder atm..

(Attachment Link)

No way you'll be able to weld that, it's cast steel.

why can't weld cast steel ?
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/confused-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)


The resolution / focus of the original image isn't good enough for me to really tell if it is cast or not.  If it is cast, it *can* be welded, but it will require preheat, welding rod with a high nickle content, arc welder with DC, and then a post heat and wrapped in either weld blanket, or buried into half burned out charcoal to drastically slow down the cooling process.  The reason for all this is because of the metallurgy and structure of cast.  Any cast metal is full of small air pockets.  This essentially acts as tiny heat insulators and you get a very drastic heat change in the material and this creates stress points and can cause cracks, both along the weld, and into the surrounding material.  The pre heat, post heat, and slow cooling attempts to minimize it.  Even if it can be welded, i am very doubtful that the threads will line up close enough to work properly.  Even if you were to find a bolt with the same threads, you get enough movement with the heating and cooling, it just won't be the same.  Best bet if you do want to weld it, would be to try and find a helicoil of the proper size and have it drilled and fixed that way after welding.  Either way, since you had to ask about welding it, you will be much better off taking it to a shop if you really want this done.

I think this part was weakened due to the chroming.. Damn you Hydrogen..
What did hydrogen ever do to you? :p

Hydrogen doesn't play a part in chrome plating.  It is an electrochemical bath dip process.  Minimum 3 steps if I remember right.  Chrome won't stick to steel but will stick to copper, copper won't stick to steel, but will stick to nickle, and nickle will stick to steel.  So it is a plating process that dips in nickle, then copper, then the chrome.  I could be off on this, but if memory serves correct, this is how it goes.

If it is powdered metal as jaffers suggested, you are totally **** out of luck here.
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 14 August 2016, 04:52:02
Dear: Expert Handyman --Melvang--


In your opinion ,  Do you think I could reliably weld this,  given this small surface area...

I only have access to an electric cheapo welder atm..

(Attachment Link)

No way you'll be able to weld that, it's cast steel.

why can't weld cast steel ?
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/confused-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862495)


The resolution / focus of the original image isn't good enough for me to really tell if it is cast or not.  If it is cast, it *can* be welded, but it will require preheat, welding rod with a high nickle content, arc welder with DC, and then a post heat and wrapped in either weld blanket, or buried into half burned out charcoal to drastically slow down the cooling process.  The reason for all this is because of the metallurgy and structure of cast.  Any cast metal is full of small air pockets.  This essentially acts as tiny heat insulators and you get a very drastic heat change in the material and this creates stress points and can cause cracks, both along the weld, and into the surrounding material.  The pre heat, post heat, and slow cooling attempts to minimize it.  Even if it can be welded, i am very doubtful that the threads will line up close enough to work properly.  Even if you were to find a bolt with the same threads, you get enough movement with the heating and cooling, it just won't be the same.  Best bet if you do want to weld it, would be to try and find a helicoil of the proper size and have it drilled and fixed that way after welding.  Either way, since you had to ask about welding it, you will be much better off taking it to a shop if you really want this done.

I think this part was weakened due to the chroming.. Damn you Hydrogen..
What did hydrogen ever do to you? :p

Hydrogen doesn't play a part in chrome plating.  It is an electrochemical bath dip process.  Minimum 3 steps if I remember right.  Chrome won't stick to steel but will stick to copper, copper won't stick to steel, but will stick to nickle, and nickle will stick to steel.  So it is a plating process that dips in nickle, then copper, then the chrome.  I could be off on this, but if memory serves correct, this is how it goes.

If it is powdered metal as jaffers suggested, you are totally **** out of luck here.



Melvang haz Spoken...

Thanks Mel...

#TpFat4ever2016

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/dying-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862500)
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 16 August 2016, 11:47:23
Crank arms are super cheap tp. Just bring that one into one of those recycling bike shops and they'll hook you up. I've had a few strip out on me about the same time I broke a back derailleur hanger (tallest FL hills I guess). Pro Tip - stop over-tightening :-*


This is non-removeable,  the whole assembly is welded..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bleeding-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862492)


C'mon you're not fooling anyone with that cruiser brake
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OfSWSXD.gif)


I'm surprised that you of all people would buy a bike that doesn't take a standard bottom bracket cartridge

It's an exercise bike..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed3-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)



I never honestly expected this to break..   I've completely underestimated how Fat I am..
Maybe you underestimated how strong your legs are instead?
Title: Re: I'm So FAT.. (Paging --Melvang--)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 17 August 2016, 02:24:25

Maybe you underestimated how strong your legs are instead?


TP, allow me to present a counterpoint....

Perhaps you're too swole now? Your legs are so rock hard that your bike just couldn't handle all that force...

:p

txx for trying to make Tp4 feel better guys..

But Tp4 has no delusions about how fat Tp4 iz  (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/full-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862505)