The SMD led doesn't interfere with nonsmd compatible switches? So any switches on the market will fit?
I'd jump on this if it were TKL. Any plans?Seconded.
What is the rated durability of the copper contact slots.. how many swaps..
I'd jump on this if it were TKL. Any plans?
I'd jump on this if it were TKL. Any plans?Seconded.
Yes there is a TKL version planned, but probably towards early 2017.
Wasn't there a plate/pcb released a long while back that was compatible with both Alps and Cherry?The Planck is alps/mx compatible, as is the new van keyboard, but the pins are different I believe so a hotswapable version would be difficult.
What is the rated durability of the copper contact slots.. how many swaps..
What happens when the mechanical joint wears out? All mechanical joints do, so if I changed switches a bunch of times and the switches start to not register - what happens? Do I get a new board?
What happens when the mechanical joint wears out? All mechanical joints do, so if I changed switches a bunch of times and the switches start to not register - what happens? Do I get a new board?
What happens when the mechanical joint wears out? All mechanical joints do, so if I changed switches a bunch of times and the switches start to not register - what happens? Do I get a new board?
Sounds like something that would be quite unlikely to happen. I imagine most will eventually settle on some combination of switches that works for them so the adding and removing of switches happens maybe at most a few times per switch type.
What happens when the mechanical joint wears out? All mechanical joints do, so if I changed switches a bunch of times and the switches start to not register - what happens? Do I get a new board?
Btw, have you asked the TekSyndicate to review this keyboard?
Yes there is a TKL version planned, but probably towards early 2017.
I know this will sound ridiculous considering all the work you're putting in, but I hope there will be a 60% as well?
It would be cool to have a board that I could constantly test on new switches and switch mods.
"hot-swapable switches" might sound good but how often would you really be swapping them?
Knowing the importance of a solid connection from pcb to your switch lead, I'd prefer the reliability of a well soldered connection.
DUDE PASS ME 4 MX REDS! GONNA CHANGE OUT MY WASD CLUSTER FOR COUNTER STRIKE THEN GO BACK TO BROWNS FOR DOTA 2!
There should be a lower priced barebones version that comes with no caps or switches.
Will the switch go out too when I pull out the keycap?
I'll wait till 75% :D
What is the rated durability of the copper contact slots.. APPROXIMATELY how many swaps..
The idea is to provide an option where you could swap out your switches to another type if you ever felt like trying out a new switch. Yea you could always buy another keyboard, or solder in your own switches. But why buy an entire new keyboard on a switch type you are not comfortable with? And what if I don't want to sit their and de-solder and re-solder all the switches on a keyboard?I've been using a PCB-mount keyboard for testing various switch variants for years. No need for soldering either.
I'm sure they probably don't even know, or if they do they aren't in any hurry to let people know. Which is a shame because it's quite useful information.What is the rated durability of the copper contact slots.. APPROXIMATELY how many swaps..
I'm sure they probably don't even know, or if they do they aren't in any hurry to let people know. Which is a shame because it's quite useful information.What is the rated durability of the copper contact slots.. APPROXIMATELY how many swaps..
The idea is to provide an option where you could swap out your switches to another type if you ever felt like trying out a new switch. Yea you could always buy another keyboard, or solder in your own switches. But why buy an entire new keyboard on a switch type you are not comfortable with? And what if I don't want to sit their and de-solder and re-solder all the switches on a keyboard?
Its not a board for everyone, but there are many that could benefit from it.
What is the rated durability of the copper contact slots.. APPROXIMATELY how many swaps..
On a particular position on the keyboard, you can swap out around ~70 times before the durability of the contact slots will cause issues (on the keyboard PCB). That being said, the durability of the copper on a specific switch is much less <20 swaps. So you would have to get a replacement switch if you do pull it and use it around that often. Hope that answers your question :).
from experience swapping switches in and out of plates (i test all my plates when i make them with switches) the little clips switches use to hole themselves to the plate (for dear life) will be damaged when removing them. so i guess the question is does this board hold the switches securely enough to re-use switches once they have been pulled from the plate more than once. if so about how may times in your experience? full switch removal usually happens when swapping key caps. happened to me before.
also when are you going to get Terry Cruze for your mascot?
i ask ... because reasons
Awesome good stuff here. I need a wrist wrest. Been talking about one from you guys for years. Need to breakdown and get me one lol.What is the rated durability of the copper contact slots.. APPROXIMATELY how many swaps..
On a particular position on the keyboard, you can swap out around ~70 times before the durability of the contact slots will cause issues (on the keyboard PCB). That being said, the durability of the copper on a specific switch is much less <20 swaps. So you would have to get a replacement switch if you do pull it and use it around that often. Hope that answers your question :).from experience swapping switches in and out of plates (i test all my plates when i make them with switches) the little clips switches use to hole themselves to the plate (for dear life) will be damaged when removing them. so i guess the question is does this board hold the switches securely enough to re-use switches once they have been pulled from the plate more than once. if so about how may times in your experience? full switch removal usually happens when swapping key caps. happened to me before.
also when are you going to get Terry Cruze for your mascot?
i ask ... because reasons
This is an issue with the Team Wolf's brand, the sizing for Gateron/Cherry switches is too tight, making removing difficult, and causing a super tight fit to board adding stress on clips. TW board was designed for Outmeu switches, not Cherry and Gateron.
So to answer your question, yes our board holds the switches securely enough without causing stress on the clips, and yes you can easily remove them without damaging the switch's housing.
And we did do something fun to honor Terry Crews (http://imgur.com/a/a91iq#wmyhZNY)a bit ago :)
from experience swapping switches in and out of plates (i test all my plates when i make them with switches) the little clips switches use to hole themselves to the plate (for dear life) will be damaged when removing them. so i guess the question is does this board hold the switches securely enough to re-use switches once they have been pulled from the plate more than once. if so about how may times in your experience? full switch removal usually happens when swapping key caps. happened to me before.
also when are you going to get Terry Cruze for your mascot?
i ask ... because reasons
from experience swapping switches in and out of plates (i test all my plates when i make them with switches) the little clips switches use to hole themselves to the plate (for dear life) will be damaged when removing them. so i guess the question is does this board hold the switches securely enough to re-use switches once they have been pulled from the plate more than once. if so about how may times in your experience? full switch removal usually happens when swapping key caps. happened to me before.
also when are you going to get Terry Cruze for your mascot?
i ask ... because reasons
I would at the very least buy a mousepad if this happens :)
from experience swapping switches in and out of plates (i test all my plates when i make them with switches) the little clips switches use to hole themselves to the plate (for dear life) will be damaged when removing them. so i guess the question is does this board hold the switches securely enough to re-use switches once they have been pulled from the plate more than once. if so about how may times in your experience? full switch removal usually happens when swapping key caps. happened to me before.
also when are you going to get Terry Cruze for your mascot?
i ask ... because reasons
I would at the very least buy a mousepad if this happens :)
Terry CREWS
Any plans for a 60% keyboard??
Any plans for a 60% keyboard??
Yes, but after the TKL version :)
Would you consider making one of these keyboards in for Alps switches (and sell them with Matias installed)?I doubt this will happen but man it would be great.
That would be my dream!
How easy is it to change the case?
Would you consider making one of these keyboards in for Alps switches (and sell them with Matias installed)?
That would be my dream!
This is possible to do, but not the route we are planning to take right now. Maybe in the future or as a stand-alone barebones kit option.
This is possible to do, but not the route we are planning to take right now. Maybe in the future or as a stand-alone barebones kit option.
If you offer it as a barebones kit, watch yourselves being inundated with orders from all the Keyboard Nerds out there.
Having possibly the only removable ALPs switch keyboard in the market, will make you KINGS amidst the keyboard fraternity 8) .
from experience swapping switches in and out of plates (i test all my plates when i make them with switches) the little clips switches use to hole themselves to the plate (for dear life) will be damaged when removing them. so i guess the question is does this board hold the switches securely enough to re-use switches once they have been pulled from the plate more than once. if so about how may times in your experience? full switch removal usually happens when swapping key caps. happened to me before.
also when are you going to get Terry Cruze for your mascot?
i ask ... because reasons
Since I'm not an accountant I will wait for the tenkeyless version.
Glorious: Are you going to stock Gateron Yellows?
Glorious: Are you going to stock Gateron Yellows?
Nope. They are quite similar to blacks, and we decided to carry only one variant.
Glorious: Are you going to stock Gateron Yellows?
Nope. They are quite similar to blacks, and we decided to carry only one variant.
I'm still lost as to why Gateron made the Yellow switches
This looks awesome. Any chance of a blue led or rgb version?
When purchasing switches to swap into this board, I surmise the recommendation would be to buy plate-mount switches? Or buy PCB-mount switches and then snip the plastic legs?
This looks awesome. Any chance of a blue led or rgb version?
any news on the TKL version please? i really want one just for sake of the case design :)
any news on the TKL version please? i really want one just for sake of the case design :)
^^^ me too. I have o-rings/jspacers/keycaps either in hand or in transit for this.
Don't wait too long because the Input Club K-Type is coming!
It is, actually:any news on the TKL version please? i really want one just for sake of the case design :)
^^^ me too. I have o-rings/jspacers/keycaps either in hand or in transit for this.
Don't wait too long because the Input Club K-Type is coming!
that's not hotswappable though.
Oh wow they added an led strip. Still really want this especially after the decision to move to cherry stabs :)
We also added hot swappable switches.
It is, actually:any news on the TKL version please? i really want one just for sake of the case design :)
^^^ me too. I have o-rings/jspacers/keycaps either in hand or in transit for this.
Don't wait too long because the Input Club K-Type is coming!
that's not hotswappable though.Oh wow they added an led strip. Still really want this especially after the decision to move to cherry stabs :)
We also added hot swappable switches.
it's not mentioned anywhere on this page https://input.club/Look at the thread here and you can find out more, they haven't updated the page for all their new stuff. Click on the quote I made in the last post and you can jump there.
also, from the renders, it seems there will be costar stabs, which i'm not a fan of :(
The K-type will be available early in 2017.
Check out this article:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/input-club-interview-mechanical-keyboards,33140.htmlQuoteThe K-type will be available early in 2017.
Can Kailh Speed Gold or Kailh Box switches be used with this keyboard? Sorry I am a total newb.yes
I acquired one of these keyboard earlier this week.
I ordered the barebones TKL version.. which for the price (with referral code) of about $60 is very reasonable.
As has been said elsewhere, the stabilizers are pretty terrible out of the box. Clipping and lubing them improves them greatly.
The board itself is mostly metal, with a small plastic back. There is a very tiny amount of flex in the case if you try and twist it, but it doesn't result in any sort of squeak or creak. If you weren't looking at it closely enough you would not even notice that it could be twisted slightly.
There is a bit of a hollow ring to the keyboard as is.. The case is easily taken apart with easily accessed screws on the top of the board, with no plastic clips.
The inside of the board is *very* cramped, If you're looking to fill it up with some stuff to deaden the noise, it will be a bit of a pain to get it all to fit.
I was able to get the board sounding *much* better with about 1 hour of work, dealing with the stabilizers, and filling what I could into the bottom of the case.
For those looking for a big fancy switch tester, this is a great board.
For people who are used to fancy customs maybe you'd be let down a bit..
If you're willing to either mess a bit with the stabilizers, or replace them with better ones,.. and address the hollow sounding case.. this board is a very serviceable board and I would say it is worth a buy.
(I am using SA caps and NovelKeys Kailh Box Heavy 'Pale Blue' switches on my unit, cannot say if the board is pleasing on anything else, also I have zero interest in the rgb lighting stuff, so cannot comment on if that is any good)
If I had any suggestions for manufacturer: Leave some more space in the bottom plastic case area so that folks who desire it can stiffen things up a bit in terms of acoustics.. or to add weight if they're into that sort of thing... Also, use better stabilizers (or at least perhaps pre-lube the ones already offered?)