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Title: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: Screwdriver on Tue, 16 August 2016, 15:35:28: So I picked up a KUL-87 MX Red board from a friend and am revisiting a previously hated switch. I am liking the silence of the stroke, but would like to silence the bottom sound. Not looking to shorten the stroke as much as deaden the sound. So a o-ring that quiets the bottoming, does not shorten the stroke much and is not too mushy.

What do you folks recommend?
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: ImperfectLink on Sun, 21 August 2016, 08:48:30: Using these on my reds:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000FMWLR8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471786897&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=008+buna-n+o-ring (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000FMWLR8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471786897&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=008+buna-n+o-ring)
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 21 August 2016, 09:24:35: 70 is pretty hard.

I would say the thinnest and softest ones that you can find. This is my preferred mod for Cherries.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 August 2016, 15:22:36: If you want silent, Get the MX silent from Corsair..

The oring only silent downstroke, but upstroke is still pretty loud.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: Erikdayo on Mon, 22 August 2016, 09:51:40: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 August 2016, 15:22:36
If you want silent, Get the MX silent from Corsair..

The oring only silent downstroke, but upstroke is still pretty loud.
I can confirm that the MX Silent switches are much quieter than I ever imagined. The issue is that if you like the lightness of Reds you might not like the Silent version. While they are supposedly weighted the same I felt that the Silent switches felt a bit heavier. I no longer have Blacks for comparison, but I think they feel closer to Blacks than Reds.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: Screwdriver on Mon, 22 August 2016, 09:57:49: Quote from: Erikdayo on Mon, 22 August 2016, 09:51:40
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 August 2016, 15:22:36
If you want silent, Get the MX silent from Corsair..

The oring only silent downstroke, but upstroke is still pretty loud.
I can confirm that the MX Silent switches are much quieter than I ever imagined. The issue is that if you like the lightness of Reds you might not like the Silent version. While they are supposedly weighted the same I felt that the Silent switches felt a bit heavier. I no longer have Blacks for comparison, but I think they feel closer to Blacks than Reds.

I like the weight of the Reds....and am not looking for a totally silent stroke, just a slight muffle on the bottom clack.

Gonna order a few different o-rings and give them a try.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: Erikdayo on Mon, 22 August 2016, 10:06:37: Quote from: Screwdriver on Mon, 22 August 2016, 09:57:49

I like the weight of the Reds....and am not looking for a totally silent stroke, just a slight muffle on the bottom clack.

Gonna order a few different o-rings and give them a try.
I like these ones for Reds. I feel like they help a bit without really changing the feel of the switch.

https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners/dp/B00AZQ3966/
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: ThoughtArtist on Mon, 22 August 2016, 14:42:11: Clack or die
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: quake4mhg on Mon, 22 August 2016, 14:46:20: The smallest thin one without shorten the distance. And hardness/softness is personal preference.
(http://i.imgur.com/nVTAp3mm.jpg)
Or put a matte under keyboard?
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: ThoughtArtist on Mon, 22 August 2016, 14:54:07: Quote from: quake4mhg on Mon, 22 August 2016, 14:46:20
The smallest thin one without shorten the distance. And hardness/softness is personal preference.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/nVTAp3mm.jpg)

Or put a matte under keyboard?

Get these: https://www.amazon.com/008-Buna-N-Ring-Durometer-Black/dp/B000FMWLR8

Then remove them later and feel liberated.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 22 August 2016, 17:13:42: Quote from: Erikdayo on Mon, 22 August 2016, 09:51:40
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 August 2016, 15:22:36
If you want silent, Get the MX silent from Corsair..

The oring only silent downstroke, but upstroke is still pretty loud.
I can confirm that the MX Silent switches are much quieter than I ever imagined. The issue is that if you like the lightness of Reds you might not like the Silent version. While they are supposedly weighted the same I felt that the Silent switches felt a bit heavier. I no longer have Blacks for comparison, but I think they feel closer to Blacks than Reds.

MX Silent are lovely. The ones I tried were super smooth and the weighting felt somewhere between MX Reds and MX Blacks, about as good as my linear Alps.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: ddot on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:21:26: If you want cheap, you can't beat ebay. Here's one option. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/120Pcs-White-Rubber-O-Ring-Keycap-For-Cherry-MX-Switch-keyboard-Dampers-Hot-/141591750545)

If you want something a little thicker and/or a little softer, check out Lpwl in the vendor area (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=189.0) and see what he can do for you. His sample pack might be a good way to start.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: Moistgun on Tue, 23 August 2016, 00:19:36: My solution to anti clacking was just to go heavier.

linears are my ****.

I didnt wanna lose the travel though so, added some weight by using blacks, and now i dont bottomout.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: Screwdriver on Tue, 23 August 2016, 10:24:04: Quote from: Erikdayo on Mon, 22 August 2016, 10:06:37
Quote from: Screwdriver on Mon, 22 August 2016, 09:57:49

I like the weight of the Reds....and am not looking for a totally silent stroke, just a slight muffle on the bottom clack.

Gonna order a few different o-rings and give them a try.
I like these ones for Reds. I feel like they help a bit without really changing the feel of the switch.

https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners/dp/B00AZQ3966/

Thanks, those are the ones I decided to buy.
Title: Re: O-Rings for Reds?
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 26 August 2016, 06:04:16: Quote from: ddot on Mon, 22 August 2016, 23:21:26
If you want cheap, you can't beat ebay. Here's one option. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/120Pcs-White-Rubber-O-Ring-Keycap-For-Cherry-MX-Switch-keyboard-Dampers-Hot-/141591750545)

If you want something a little thicker and/or a little softer, check out Lpwl in the vendor area (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=189.0) and see what he can do for you. His sample pack might be a good way to start.

+1 for Lpwl.

There are some great pictures in one of his threads, and he's probably more than happy to help you out.