Post by: Adgar on Sun, 04 September 2016, 22:13:58
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 04 September 2016, 23:24:07
If you are in China, I would get a Keycool 84 with Kailh browns or blues :D
Post by: SBJ on Mon, 05 September 2016, 00:10:15
VA68M with Blacks, wouldn't want to disturb other people with a clicky switch. :D
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Mon, 05 September 2016, 02:52:32
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 05 September 2016, 03:05:38
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Mon, 05 September 2016, 03:09:53
HHKB BT?
I wish... one day I'll do the BT mod that everyone keeps talking about. Unfortunately the official BT HHBK is outside of my budget for the moment.
Post by: chyros on Mon, 05 September 2016, 03:33:34
Post by: Gatix on Mon, 05 September 2016, 03:48:35
Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 05 September 2016, 04:21:27
I'd just bring something small and compact, like an AT101 :cool: .You could totally fit a bomb into an AT101.
Post by: chyros on Mon, 05 September 2016, 04:29:30
of course I could. I could even make one from scratch :p . You know, chemist's prerogative ;) .I'd just bring something small and compact, like an AT101 :cool: .You could totally fit a bomb into an AT101.
Post by: Erzegovaz on Mon, 05 September 2016, 04:43:00
Post by: steveachu on Mon, 05 September 2016, 05:27:37
-Fits perfectly on top of a laptop
-One of the lightest keyboards out there
-Has a godlike layout
-The non-silenced HHKB is not obnoxiously loud
-Has a dedicated carrying case made by PFU
-Easy to hit high typing speeds
-Small, but doesn't sacrifice too much functionality like 40% boards
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 September 2016, 06:08:38
HHKB hands down.Just make it the bluetooth version and then it's perfect.
-Fits perfectly on top of a laptop
-One of the lightest keyboards out there
-Has a godlike layout
-The non-silenced HHKB is not obnoxiously loud
-Has a dedicated carrying case made by PFU
-Easy to hit high typing speeds
-Small, but doesn't sacrifice too much functionality like 40% boards
HHKBT > everything else (unless you lube/purple slider it then whatever)
Post by: zslane on Mon, 05 September 2016, 10:57:30
If I were going to be gone for many months, I probably wouldn't be using my iPad for everything, I'd be using a desktop computer, and I'd have one of my Filco Majestouch-2's sent ahead.
Post by: Geroximo on Mon, 05 September 2016, 11:05:00
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 05 September 2016, 11:46:22
I always thought the 2 USB Hubs on the HHKB would drain too much battery life from iPads and laptops?
It's not the USB hubs, its the way the capacitive sensing works. The Bluetooth Controller from Hasu also has very limited battery life because of this, even with a rather high capacity battery.
Post by: czarek on Mon, 05 September 2016, 14:15:10
Surprisingly even IBM Model M with USB adapter works fine with iPad, not to mention any other keyboard I tried. Myself I use GH60 when I want an external keyboard with an iPad. I've got mine with PCB mounted switches and ABS case so it's light and compact. It's also fully programmable of course :)
Post by: moh18one on Mon, 05 September 2016, 19:00:08
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 05 September 2016, 19:15:42
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 05 September 2016, 20:20:39
I would take a 75% board. It's probably my favourite layout in terms of practicality and size, but I use an 1800 board at work just because I need the numpad.
If you are in China, I would get a Keycool 84 with Kailh browns or blues :D
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 05 September 2016, 20:28:10
Probably same as at home.
VA68M with Blacks, wouldn't want to disturb other people with a clicky switch. :D
with other especially related to sleep. Your partners or others are more important.
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 05 September 2016, 20:31:24
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Mon, 05 September 2016, 20:33:50
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 05 September 2016, 21:13:12
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 05 September 2016, 21:28:58
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 06 September 2016, 01:10:35
Nothing. For typical vacations, the BT keyboard built into my iPad case is perfectly adequate. It is not worth even stuffing a Pok3r into my luggage for so short a time.
If I were going to be gone for many months, I probably wouldn't be using my iPad for everything, I'd be using a desktop computer, and I'd have one of my Filco Majestouch-2's sent ahead.
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:01:44
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:27:07
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:29:30
Post by: Adgar on Wed, 07 September 2016, 00:52:11
If I had to bring something along for the ride - say i planned on doing a lot of work from the plane/airport/hotel... it would be my HHKB HasuBT. You just cant beat it for size, weight, function.
Post by: ctm on Thu, 08 September 2016, 20:04:15
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 10 September 2016, 16:35:48
It's not capacitive sensing because Relforce boards (55g 87U and variable weighted 104UB confirmed by me) work fine with iPad air and iPhone 6s.
They do work just fine, they just use a lot more battery than standard mechs do.
Post by: FrostyBunny on Sun, 11 September 2016, 15:32:04
Post by: wodan on Sun, 11 September 2016, 15:48:32
Post by: Adgar on Sun, 11 September 2016, 21:44:23
I take my keyboard with me every time I work onsite at a customer (hate the shared/consultant desk keyboards ... Sticky and dirty) and usually take my HHKB JP Type-S. I agree with what others have said before me, it's perfect for that purpose. Lightweight, very calm, versatile (Hasu controller) and even dedicates arrows :)
Magicforce68
It's not capacitive sensing because Relforce boards (55g 87U and variable weighted 104UB confirmed by me) work fine with iPad air and iPhone 6s.
They do work just fine, they just use a lot more battery than standard mechs do.
I would use a 60%, like my Alps64.
I would use a 60%, like my Alps64.
I would take a 75% board. It's probably my favourite layout in terms of practicality and size, but I use an 1800 board at work just because I need the numpad.
If you are in China, I would get a Keycool 84 with Kailh browns or blues :D
Probably same as at home.
VA68M with Blacks, wouldn't want to disturb other people with a clicky switch. :D
Definitely a smaller board when I travel. In the past I brought my Poker2 with mxclears, now the HHKB comes with me ;)
HHKB BT?
I wish... one day I'll do the BT mod that everyone keeps talking about. Unfortunately the official BT HHBK is outside of my budget for the moment.
I'd just bring something small and compact, like an AT101 :cool: .
HHKB because it's lightweight
I'd just bring something small and compact, like an AT101 :cool: .You could totally fit a bomb into an AT101.
HHKB hands down.
-Fits perfectly on top of a laptop
-One of the lightest keyboards out there
-Has a godlike layout
-The non-silenced HHKB is not obnoxiously loud
-Has a dedicated carrying case made by PFU
-Easy to hit high typing speeds
-Small, but doesn't sacrifice too much functionality like 40% boards
be really great.
Post by: keyladding on Mon, 12 September 2016, 02:04:31
This is the interesting USB interface.and portable size.
What is that?
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 12 September 2016, 02:22:35
This is the interesting USB interface.and portable size.
What is that?
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 13 September 2016, 19:41:51
Post by: losing_ctrl on Wed, 14 September 2016, 08:45:30
Post by: Altis on Wed, 14 September 2016, 19:02:20
AT101 :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:,Yes, I think you can take it with you go out, Especially join the war. AT101 will be a perfect shield.
In Canada, we use AT101 as snow shovel.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/30dbb0j.png)
Any compact (60-75%) keyboard should be decent for travelling.
The HHKB is particularly lightweight and compact and is my top choice in that regard. It also isn't too obnoxious sounding so as to not bother people around you.
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 19 September 2016, 02:06:20
AT101 :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:,Yes, I think you can take it with you go out, Especially join the war. AT101 will be a perfect shield.
In Canada, we use AT101 as snow shovel.Show Image(http://i66.tinypic.com/30dbb0j.png):cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Any compact (60-75%) keyboard should be decent for travelling.
The HHKB is particularly lightweight and compact and is my top choice in that regard. It also isn't too obnoxious sounding so as to not bother people around you.
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 19 September 2016, 02:46:37
I'll just echo many of the comments and cast a vote for the HHKB Pro JP Type-S. I took mine on a two week trip to Europe this summer and it was great. It is sort of outrageously light and small while still allowing for full speed typing. Not only full speed typing, but also just the pleasure of the Topre thock that is an additional value-add experience. I had it attached to my iPad every day and it just worked. I'd love to get the new BT version of it, that would be best of all for traveling.
I take my keyboard with me every time I work onsite at a customer (hate the shared/consultant desk keyboards ... Sticky and dirty) and usually take my HHKB JP Type-S. I agree with what others have said before me, it's perfect for that purpose. Lightweight, very calm, versatile (Hasu controller) and even dedicates arrows :)
If I had to bring something along for the ride - say i planned on doing a lot of work from the plane/airport/hotel... it would be my HHKB HasuBT. You just cant beat it for size, weight, function.
HHKB BT?
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 19 September 2016, 03:24:05
Post by: agalford on Mon, 19 September 2016, 08:53:10
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Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 19 September 2016, 09:05:57
PROS:
- Small/Compact
- Lightweight
- Relatively Quiet
- "Moddable" (ie. different controller, able to be silenced)
CONS:
- No F-keys
- Learning Curve
- Requires Controller if Standard Layout is Necessary
If F-keys are necessary I would recommend a 75% board such as some of the boards others are listing. And If a number pad is required I would look into a Monarch or a keyboard of that sort.
Post by: zeltner on Mon, 19 September 2016, 09:17:26
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 19 September 2016, 10:32:13
This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.Yeah those are cool. What is the weight though?
I lug an FC660m around at the moment and I kind of want to push that weight down.
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 19 September 2016, 12:10:21
This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.
There's similar cases on alibaba. That's what I have on my poker. More variety in wood that way too.
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 20 September 2016, 03:26:09
This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 20 September 2016, 20:07:59
This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.
There's similar cases on alibaba. That's what I have on my poker. More variety in wood that way too.
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 21 September 2016, 13:22:10
Which site, I tried . But I did not find a site sellling wooden case.This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.
There's similar cases on alibaba. That's what I have on my poker. More variety in wood that way too.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Handcraft-GH60-Solid-Wooden-Case-For-60-Mini-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Compatible-Poker2-Pok3r-Faceu-60/32596058719.html
Post by: keyladding on Wed, 21 September 2016, 19:28:17
Post by: 0100010 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 21:10:32
Post by: Adgar on Thu, 22 September 2016, 19:25:44
Those wood cases make me want to build a 60% board. I would add small neodymium magnets around the perimeter to hold it closed though.
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 23 September 2016, 14:39:51
Those wood cases make me want to build a 60% board. I would add small neodymium magnets around the perimeter to hold it closed though.
Oooh... good idea! What force do you think would be required in order to make it a solid grip?
Post by: 0100010 on Fri, 23 September 2016, 14:45:10
Those wood cases make me want to build a 60% board. I would add small neodymium magnets around the perimeter to hold it closed though.
Oooh... good idea! What force do you think would be required in order to make it a solid grip?
Don't think magnet strength would be all too important, neodymium is pretty strong in general, so N42 would probably be fine. I suspect 6 locations / 12 magnets total (1 in each corner, 1 in the middle top/bottom) would be plenty. They would have to be pretty small to fit in the lip around the edge though. Maybe some 1/10" by 1/10" N42 cylinders.
Post by: captsis on Sun, 25 September 2016, 01:06:38
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Post by: ctm on Sun, 25 September 2016, 08:13:13
Post by: snoopy on Sun, 25 September 2016, 08:24:50
Imagine all the puzzled faced when you pull it out of your bag in a meeting or in a coffee shop. You'll have the full attention!
Post by: ctm on Sun, 25 September 2016, 10:37:38
Beamspring!Yes! +1 for beam spring! When traveling, beam spring boards can also serve as weapons to defend against robbers :thumb:
Imagine all the puzzled faced when you pull it out of your bag in a meeting or in a coffee shop. You'll have the full attention!
Post by: Ashlyn on Sun, 25 September 2016, 11:35:08
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 27 September 2016, 03:29:38
There is a Bluetooth version of HHKB http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/bt/
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 27 September 2016, 03:33:50
I am not prepare to use it in a Coffe bar or some public location. I prefer using it in my hotel. But I think it doesn't matter to care that . We love machanical keyboard so much and that maybe cool to use our lovely keyboard in front of public.Beamspring!Yes! +1 for beam spring! When traveling, beam spring boards can also serve as weapons to defend against robbers :thumb:
Imagine all the puzzled faced when you pull it out of your bag in a meeting or in a coffee shop. You'll have the full attention!
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 27 September 2016, 20:03:35
Post by: 0100010 on Tue, 27 September 2016, 22:25:09
Beamspring!Yes! +1 for beam spring! When traveling, beam spring boards can also serve as weapons to defend against robbers :thumb:
Imagine all the puzzled faced when you pull it out of your bag in a meeting or in a coffee shop. You'll have the full attention!
Smallest beamspring I know is the IBM 2976 mobile terminal.
(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/15477)
Post by: captsis on Tue, 27 September 2016, 22:28:33
Beamspring!Yes! +1 for beam spring! When traveling, beam spring boards can also serve as weapons to defend against robbers :thumb:
Imagine all the puzzled faced when you pull it out of your bag in a meeting or in a coffee shop. You'll have the full attention!
Smallest beamspring I know is the IBM 2976 mobile terminal.Show Image(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/15477)
Is that a cop? probably was used as a baton!
Post by: AMongoose on Wed, 28 September 2016, 04:09:25
Smallest beamspring I know is the IBM 2976 mobile terminal.Show Image(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/15477)
That is so cute
Post by: PollandAkuma on Wed, 28 September 2016, 04:59:55
miniVan or JD45 depending on what type of work I need to do.
What makes them good for your different types of work?
Post by: PollandAkuma on Wed, 28 September 2016, 05:03:38
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 28 September 2016, 17:36:34
miniVan or JD45 depending on what type of work I need to do.
What makes them good for your different types of work?
The miniVan is a bit smaller than the JD45, and works well for me for writing, i.e. just really using the qwerty in any case. The JD45 has by default the double legends, which makes it easier for me for coding and such if I have to. Add to that the fact that my JD45 is bluetooth.
Post by: Adgar on Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:12:26
If I had a 40% that would be my travelling board. But I only have a Poker 2 :/
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:43:36
I think if you do not have much requirements. The porker 2 is enough. Comparing with HHBK. I like the keycap of porker 2If I had a 40% that would be my travelling board. But I only have a Poker 2 :/
You mean Poker? :)) "Porker' sounds delicious though haha.
I know deep in my heart that a cheap (read: poker is "cheap") 60% mech is more enough for the next four years... Try convincing my greed that one is enough :blank:
Post by: ace_of_dunces on Fri, 30 September 2016, 10:42:39
miniVan or JD45 depending on what type of work I need to do.
I just got a MiniVan for coding while traveling. Hopefully it's not too restrictive.
This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.
Wow, nice setup! And thanks for the link. Is it very bulky?
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 30 September 2016, 14:09:39
miniVan or JD45 depending on what type of work I need to do.
I just got a MiniVan for coding while traveling. Hopefully it's not too restrictive.
It should be fine - it's really a matter of your key map and taking the time to get it set up for your needs. I could use the minivan for coding, but the JD45 has more keys, and I could get a better layout on it, and not having to share the same maps or deal with more layers to get both was just a bonus.
Post by: ace_of_dunces on Sat, 01 October 2016, 16:04:55
miniVan or JD45 depending on what type of work I need to do.
I just got a MiniVan for coding while traveling. Hopefully it's not too restrictive.
It should be fine - it's really a matter of your key map and taking the time to get it set up for your needs. I could use the minivan for coding, but the JD45 has more keys, and I could get a better layout on it, and not having to share the same maps or deal with more layers to get both was just a bonus.
Yeah, it seems like getting the mapping right is crucial. For me it'll have to be a balance between what's practical and what will keep tendinitis at bay. If it doesn't work out I guess I'll just have to give the JD45 a try haha
Post by: Adgar on Sun, 09 October 2016, 21:18:52
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 11 October 2016, 02:14:18
Smallest beamspring I know is the IBM 2976 mobile terminal.It reminds me old timeShow Image(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/15477)
That is so cute
Post by: ArchDill on Tue, 11 October 2016, 02:23:33
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 11 October 2016, 21:39:25
I use a Noppoo Lolita Spyder. Perfect size. Switched the caps out with ABS double shots and modded the usb cable to not be so long. I made a case for it and it fits in my bag perfect. Has Kailh Browns.Oh , that sounds great. Can you show us the picture of your wonderdul Keyboard? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:03:33
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Post by: Adgar on Wed, 12 October 2016, 02:38:13
Here it is. This is before I did the cable mod. The key caps don't look as bright in person. They are more olive drab. Also, by "case" I meant a sleeve.Green and black belong to cooler color that accords with men's favor generally. ;D ;D. But I also like white and blue. Like the layout of White Fox Keycap. Somehow. I think it will be perfect if your nice keyboard can throw away USB and equipped with bluetooth ;D ;especially when you go out. If you are a geek. I think maybe you will have the same idea.
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Post by: Adgar on Thu, 13 October 2016, 00:06:03
There is a Bluetooth version of HHKB http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/bt/It gonna be perfect if match with nice keycaps. The black keycap looks boring.
Post by: yowaffle on Thu, 13 October 2016, 00:53:35
This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.
Yea i have the same case on my poker II and currently use that as my travel board. I also ordered the MiniVan and will probably switch between the 2 when traveling depending on my mood
Post by: Adgar on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:18:38
Which kind of Minivan you will buy. The standards or the arrow layout.This is what I use. The case is a bit pricey but for traveling you can't beat the case + lid combo. You can find them at datamancer http://www.datamancer.com/cart/datamancer-oaken-60-keyboard-case-p-295.html and they also pop up on massdrop from time to time for a bit cheaper price.
Yea i have the same case on my poker II and currently use that as my travel board. I also ordered the MiniVan and will probably switch between the 2 when traveling depending on my mood
Post by: yowaffle on Thu, 13 October 2016, 23:08:49
Yea i have the same case on my poker II and currently use that as my travel board. I also ordered the MiniVan and will probably switch between the 2 when traveling depending on my moodWhich kind of Minivan you will buy. The standards or the arrow layout.
It was a tough-ish decision for me but I decided to go with the standard layout. The only times I find it convenient to have the arrow keys is at work and I don't plan on bringing it to work.
Post by: Adgar on Fri, 14 October 2016, 02:45:30
In fact, I am a little confused about your answer. I seems the arrow is much better for travel. But you choose the standar.Yea i have the same case on my poker II and currently use that as my travel board. I also ordered the MiniVan and will probably switch between the 2 when traveling depending on my moodWhich kind of Minivan you will buy. The standards or the arrow layout.
It was a tough-ish decision for me but I decided to go with the standard layout. The only times I find it convenient to have the arrow keys is at work and I don't plan on bringing it to work.
Post by: yowaffle on Fri, 14 October 2016, 11:13:56
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 14 October 2016, 12:55:12
Even with standard there are still arrow keys, they just live in a function layer. When traveling, I don't use the arrow keys a lot so I went with standard.
Yeah... I debated getting the arrow key one when he introduced it... but like you said, when typing on something this small, it seemed a waste.
Post by: MJL on Sun, 16 October 2016, 18:15:32
Post by: Adgar on Sun, 16 October 2016, 21:07:44
You are right.Both the arrow and standard are small enough to satisfy our need when we go out. But the arrow is a little inconvenient.Even with standard there are still arrow keys, they just live in a function layer. When traveling, I don't use the arrow keys a lot so I went with standard.
Yeah... I debated getting the arrow key one when he introduced it... but like you said, when typing on something this small, it seemed a waste.
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 17 October 2016, 21:37:43
This is the KB DaleSnail has referring to.seems this one is too small ...
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Post by: Adgar on Mon, 31 October 2016, 00:57:21
Post by: Pennyz on Mon, 31 October 2016, 01:11:11
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 31 October 2016, 01:14:52
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 31 October 2016, 05:13:48
Otherwise, then it would be a Surface Pro 4 (or similar form factor computer) + keyboard setup. And I suggest HHKB for its light weight and size or something like Pok3r or GH60.
If you really want a 75% which is understandable if you need to work on codes, then in China, it's easy to get a PLUM 84. PLUM 84 is decently built and has relatively light weight capacitive key switches at the 35g, oh, and it's fully customizable and programmable. I've heard some of them can even support dual mode (USB + bluetooth). Other working-out-of-the-box choice would be Noppoo Choc mini, where you have many options for Cherry switches and Gateron switches. I believe they've fixed most of the firmware problems existed in their earlier versions. Both of these Chinese 75% keyboards mentioned have the 5.5x space bar which is a pain in the ass to find replacement keys if you love to play with caps; however, these space bar caps themselves on the two boards are of decent quality made of thick PBT and thick POM.
Other 75% options are much more expensive and for most of them you need to make customized orders from makers: I really like Red Scarf 84 and Duck Octagon but they're not as mobile with those feet.
I am a believer of the 75% form factor. I think it should be the modern standard event for desktop computers and the number pad should be located on the left hand side of the keyboard if one ever needs that.
Please show us what you end up, there are so many keyboard clubs and sellers and makers in China.
Post by: Crapbag on Mon, 31 October 2016, 14:19:49
This is the KB DaleSnail has referring to.
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Nice! Did it come from a Pawn shop?
Post by: MJL on Mon, 31 October 2016, 17:52:12
Post by: losing_ctrl on Mon, 31 October 2016, 18:58:17
Leopold FC660M with Leopold dye-sub keycaps
Very nice. Very classy!
That would be a great travel board.
Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 31 October 2016, 19:24:52
Post by: Minnie2 on Tue, 01 November 2016, 00:12:40
Post by: Adgar on Sun, 06 November 2016, 20:46:29
For mobile setup, I would suggest trying out a ThinkPad - carrying just 1 piece of equipment is always the best, and usually people would find the ThinkPad keyboard agreeable.
Otherwise, then it would be a Surface Pro 4 (or similar form factor computer) + keyboard setup. And I suggest HHKB for its light weight and size or something like Pok3r or GH60.
If you really want a 75% which is understandable if you need to work on codes, then in China, it's easy to get a PLUM 84. PLUM 84 is decently built and has relatively light weight capacitive key switches at the 35g, oh, and it's fully customizable and programmable. I've heard some of them can even support dual mode (USB + bluetooth). Other working-out-of-the-box choice would be Noppoo Choc mini, where you have many options for Cherry switches and Gateron switches. I believe they've fixed most of the firmware problems existed in their earlier versions. Both of these Chinese 75% keyboards mentioned have the 5.5x space bar which is a pain in the ass to find replacement keys if you love to play with caps; however, these space bar caps themselves on the two boards are of decent quality made of thick PBT and thick POM.
Other 75% options are much more expensive and for most of them you need to make customized orders from makers: I really like Red Scarf 84 and Duck Octagon but they're not as mobile with those feet.
I am a believer of the 75% form factor. I think it should be the modern standard event for desktop computers and the number pad should be located on the left hand side of the keyboard if one ever needs that.
Please show us what you end up, there are so many keyboard clubs and sellers and makers in China.
To be honest, I don't like the aspect ratio and keycap of PLUM 84.But because I havn't use that before, so, I hope that I can have a try this interesting keyboard. ;D ;DThis is the KB DaleSnail has referring to.
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Nice! Did it come from a Pawn shop?
Post by: opensecret on Thu, 10 November 2016, 20:23:14
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 14 November 2016, 00:36:35
I support Menuhin's recommendation to get a Thinkpad. I have mechanical keyboards at both home and office, but for travel I'm using a Thinkpad T450s. It's a very good laptop keyboard, and I can type about as well on it as on a mechanical. The layout is non-standard for certain keys, but not as hard to adjust to as a HHKB. For travel, I don't want the added weight and bulk of a separate keyboard.Thinpad laptop keyboard is okay. But for someone like programmer,game player, or some workers who type usually, I don't think laptop keyboard is a good idea. Because I have some terribel exprience. Because I use my laptop keyboard often. Some keys don't work right now. It's really a little tough for me. I always think that if I have a small keyboard early. Things won't getting so tough. For someone who doesn't using computer often, It's okay. But for someone like programmer, Writer or.... You better prepare keyboard to protect you fingers and laptop.
Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 14 November 2016, 13:50:44
I support Menuhin's recommendation to get a Thinkpad. I have mechanical keyboards at both home and office, but for travel I'm using a Thinkpad T450s. It's a very good laptop keyboard, and I can type about as well on it as on a mechanical. The layout is non-standard for certain keys, but not as hard to adjust to as a HHKB. For travel, I don't want the added weight and bulk of a separate keyboard.
I've been looking at thinkpads too, what's the hype? seems like they are the model ms of laptops.
Post by: opensecret on Mon, 14 November 2016, 19:24:52
I support Menuhin's recommendation to get a Thinkpad. I have mechanical keyboards at both home and office, but for travel I'm using a Thinkpad T450s. It's a very good laptop keyboard, and I can type about as well on it as on a mechanical. The layout is non-standard for certain keys, but not as hard to adjust to as a HHKB. For travel, I don't want the added weight and bulk of a separate keyboard.Thinpad laptop keyboard is okay. But for someone like programmer,game player, or some workers who type usually, I don't think laptop keyboard is a good idea. Because I have some terribel exprience. Because I use my laptop keyboard often. Some keys don't work right now. It's really a little tough for me. I always think that if I have a small keyboard early. Things won't getting so tough. For someone who doesn't using computer often, It's okay. But for someone like programmer, Writer or.... You better prepare keyboard to protect you fingers and laptop.
Everything about keyboards comes down to what works for you, which might be different from what works for me. I use my laptop in airports, airplanes, hotel rooms and trains, usually no more than a couple of hours at a time, and I try to travel as light as I can. If you don't mind the added weight and complexity of a compact mechanical keyboard, then carry one. Home or office, I use mechanicals -- typing now on a 25-year old Omnikey with white Alps switches. But I can happily type on the Thinkpad for as long as necessary; the non-standard keys are a bigger problems than keyboard feel..
Post by: opensecret on Mon, 14 November 2016, 19:40:10
I support Menuhin's recommendation to get a Thinkpad. I have mechanical keyboards at both home and office, but for travel I'm using a Thinkpad T450s. It's a very good laptop keyboard, and I can type about as well on it as on a mechanical. The layout is non-standard for certain keys, but not as hard to adjust to as a HHKB. For travel, I don't want the added weight and bulk of a separate keyboard.
I've been looking at thinkpads too, what's the hype? seems like they are the model ms of laptops.
In a way they are the Model M, given that they were an IBM product for many years before Big Blue sold to Lenovo. I think they've always been one of the best options for business travelers, and they've kept improving them over the years. The keyboards have historically been better than most other laptops. I got my first laptop in the 1980s (it was pretty clunky), and I've had a number over the years, but it's been a long time since I bought anything other than a Thinkpad. I like the T450s keyboard as much as anything I've seen on a laptop (except for a few keys in dumb places). Another feature that I love, though some people don't like it at all, is the Trackpoint pointing stick, which I think works particularly well for touch typists because you don't have to move a hand off the home row to move the cursor. One other thing I'm happy to report is that Lenovo was very responsive when I had a support event a couple of weeks ago: my Sierra wireless card failed after about a year. I called Lenovo support, the part was still under warranty, and they got me a new one in 48 hours with no questions asked. The new card is in and working.
Post by: Adgar on Thu, 17 November 2016, 20:25:21
maybe the Thinkpad looks not very good when comparing with Macbook. ;D ;D(Macbook looks really gogerous especially the Air). But the I prefer Thinkpad. Mac Book makes me feel like I am wearing a pair expensive shoes, fashion ,beautiful... However, not comfortable. I should treat Mac like a pearl carefully. But the Thinkpad is totally different. It makes me feel good and easy, I can treat them as I want. BY the way. I prefer WOS . I like palying games do programming...(Thnkpad is my favor. ;D ;D ;D). IN fact, I forget some, Talking about Keyboard for business trip, Besides the practical applicability, We love keyboard. We enjoy the feels when we click them. We wanna bring our beautiful keycap go out and enjoy our trip and keep convinent at the same time. But what's more important is our love to keyboard. So, If you love your cool keyboard very much, What you want talk about is which one you should choose not whether take it or not.I support Menuhin's recommendation to get a Thinkpad. I have mechanical keyboards at both home and office, but for travel I'm using a Thinkpad T450s. It's a very good laptop keyboard, and I can type about as well on it as on a mechanical. The layout is non-standard for certain keys, but not as hard to adjust to as a HHKB. For travel, I don't want the added weight and bulk of a separate keyboard.
I've been looking at thinkpads too, what's the hype? seems like they are the model ms of laptops.
In a way they are the Model M, given that they were an IBM product for many years before Big Blue sold to Lenovo. I think they've always been one of the best options for business travelers, and they've kept improving them over the years. The keyboards have historically been better than most other laptops. I got my first laptop in the 1980s (it was pretty clunky), and I've had a number over the years, but it's been a long time since I bought anything other than a Thinkpad. I like the T450s keyboard as much as anything I've seen on a laptop (except for a few keys in dumb places). Another feature that I love, though some people don't like it at all, is the Trackpoint pointing stick, which I think works particularly well for touch typists because you don't have to move a hand off the home row to move the cursor. One other thing I'm happy to report is that Lenovo was very responsive when I had a support event a couple of weeks ago: my Sierra wireless card failed after about a year. I called Lenovo support, the part was still under warranty, and they got me a new one in 48 hours with no questions asked. The new card is in and working.
Post by: PollandAkuma on Fri, 18 November 2016, 02:52:52
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Post by: menuhin on Fri, 18 November 2016, 06:48:45
If you don't mind me asking, on a completely unrelated subject, can someone recommend me a Thinkpad laptop that is travel-friendly and can last many years? Preferably also in almost new condition and not over £500. Oh, and also better than my Macbook Pro 2011... I guess I just really want a new Thinkpad, not one with shiny used keys
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Look no further than a factory refurbished X series model. Depending on how recent the model is, but definitely not more than 500€ (not even £) to get something way more powerful than a 2011 MB or MBP.
Post by: PollandAkuma on Fri, 18 November 2016, 18:36:24
Look no further than a factory refurbished X series model. Depending on how recent the model is, but definitely not more than 500€ (not even £) to get something way more powerful than a 2011 MB or MBP.
Where should I look to if I want one? Do I go to Lenovo's own website? They're not too clunky and heavy to bring around right? Which X models should i be looking at?
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 19 November 2016, 13:39:33
Look no further than a factory refurbished X series model. Depending on how recent the model is, but definitely not more than 500€ (not even £) to get something way more powerful than a 2011 MB or MBP.
Where should I look to if I want one? Do I go to Lenovo's own website? They're not too clunky and heavy to bring around right? Which X models should i be looking at?
As a keyboard person, perhaps you first decide which keyboard you want first, X220 to X230 is the time of design change:
Anything around that time, even for X240 refurbished grade-A is around 400€, on Google search or eBay.
But I warn you not to get the X240 if you want to experience the trackpoint experience first-hand because they took away the red Thinkpad Trackpoint navi buttons on X240, everyone complained that becomes not so usable (China way of cost cutting or smart-ass design modifications instead of building upon heritage by Lenovo 'R&D', teams still led by non-Chinese though), and they had to bring it back on the X250. Just top it with a model with core i7 and SSD.
Post by: Adgar on Mon, 21 November 2016, 19:53:40
Anyway, the lenovol is the China's most popular Laptop. Buy talking about the Thinkpad laptop keyboard. I think the most excellent one is the thinkpad 600. It's laptop keyboard was designed by a Japanese ほりうち みつお. Look at this.Look no further than a factory refurbished X series model. Depending on how recent the model is, but definitely not more than 500€ (not even £) to get something way more powerful than a 2011 MB or MBP.
Where should I look to if I want one? Do I go to Lenovo's own website? They're not too clunky and heavy to bring around right? Which X models should i be looking at?
As a keyboard person, perhaps you first decide which keyboard you want first, X220 to X230 is the time of design change:
Anything around that time, even for X240 refurbished grade-A is around 400€, on Google search or eBay.
But I warn you not to get the X240 if you want to experience the trackpoint experience first-hand because they took away the red Thinkpad Trackpoint navi buttons on X240, everyone complained that becomes not so usable (China way of cost cutting or smart-ass design modifications instead of building upon heritage by Lenovo 'R&D', teams still led by non-Chinese though), and they had to bring it back on the X250. Just top it with a model with core i7 and SSD.
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 22 November 2016, 17:33:18
Look no further than a factory refurbished X series model. Depending on how recent the model is, but definitely not more than 500€ (not even £) to get something way more powerful than a 2011 MB or MBP.
Where should I look to if I want one? Do I go to Lenovo's own website? They're not too clunky and heavy to bring around right? Which X models should i be looking at?
As a keyboard person, perhaps you first decide which keyboard you want first, X220 to X230 is the time of design change:
Anything around that time, even for X240 refurbished grade-A is around 400€, on Google search or eBay.
But I warn you not to get the X240 if you want to experience the trackpoint experience first-hand because they took away the red Thinkpad Trackpoint navi buttons on X240, everyone complained that becomes not so usable (China way of cost cutting or smart-ass design modifications instead of building upon heritage by Lenovo 'R&D', teams still led by non-Chinese though), and they had to bring it back on the X250. Just top it with a model with core i7 and SSD.
I was a Lenovo authorized service tech on the X220/230 for a few years and can confirm they are my favorite thinkpad computer from around that time. I can't comment on IBM thinkpads, but an X220 is an excellent computer. There were some issue with the screen / hinge, (we had the convertible tablet version) but very easy to work on, not very fragile (I can't comment about the laptop version, that screen looks fragile to me) and pretty drop-proof.
Many of the old IBM thinkpads used NMB keyboards, I think the X60 did and maybe the X40 also. They were pretty good!
Post by: Adgar on Tue, 22 November 2016, 18:52:10
I had used a Thinkpad Laptop for 5 years. It makes me feel very good at first. But at the last year, there were something wrong with its Video card. So, I found out a electronic repaire shop to fix it. The owner told me to replace it, And I pay his money to help find out right vedio card on the internet , however, he just fix the vedio card and didn't replace it >:D >:D >:D. After that, my lenovl laptop never work well. I never fix something in electronic repaire shop and do everything by myself.Look no further than a factory refurbished X series model. Depending on how recent the model is, but definitely not more than 500€ (not even £) to get something way more powerful than a 2011 MB or MBP.
Where should I look to if I want one? Do I go to Lenovo's own website? They're not too clunky and heavy to bring around right? Which X models should i be looking at?
As a keyboard person, perhaps you first decide which keyboard you want first, X220 to X230 is the time of design change:
Anything around that time, even for X240 refurbished grade-A is around 400€, on Google search or eBay.
But I warn you not to get the X240 if you want to experience the trackpoint experience first-hand because they took away the red Thinkpad Trackpoint navi buttons on X240, everyone complained that becomes not so usable (China way of cost cutting or smart-ass design modifications instead of building upon heritage by Lenovo 'R&D', teams still led by non-Chinese though), and they had to bring it back on the X250. Just top it with a model with core i7 and SSD.
I was a Lenovo authorized service tech on the X220/230 for a few years and can confirm they are my favorite thinkpad computer from around that time. I can't comment on IBM thinkpads, but an X220 is an excellent computer. There were some issue with the screen / hinge, (we had the convertible tablet version) but very easy to work on, not very fragile (I can't comment about the laptop version, that screen looks fragile to me) and pretty drop-proof.
Many of the old IBM thinkpads used NMB keyboards, I think the X60 did and maybe the X40 also. They were pretty good!
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 23 November 2016, 04:45:44
Look no further than a factory refurbished X series model. Depending on how recent the model is, but definitely not more than 500€ (not even £) to get something way more powerful than a 2011 MB or MBP.
Where should I look to if I want one? Do I go to Lenovo's own website? They're not too clunky and heavy to bring around right? Which X models should i be looking at?
As a keyboard person, perhaps you first decide which keyboard you want first, X220 to X230 is the time of design change:
Anything around that time, even for X240 refurbished grade-A is around 400€, on Google search or eBay.
But I warn you not to get the X240 if you want to experience the trackpoint experience first-hand because they took away the red Thinkpad Trackpoint navi buttons on X240, everyone complained that becomes not so usable (China way of cost cutting or smart-ass design modifications instead of building upon heritage by Lenovo 'R&D', teams still led by non-Chinese though), and they had to bring it back on the X250. Just top it with a model with core i7 and SSD.
I was a Lenovo authorized service tech on the X220/230 for a few years and can confirm they are my favorite thinkpad computer from around that time. I can't comment on IBM thinkpads, but an X220 is an excellent computer. There were some issue with the screen / hinge, (we had the convertible tablet version) but very easy to work on, not very fragile (I can't comment about the laptop version, that screen looks fragile to me) and pretty drop-proof.[/spoiler]
Many of the old IBM thinkpads used NMB keyboards, I think the X60 did and maybe the X40 also. They were pretty good!
Does the X220 has NMB keyboards? And who are the new OEM for the new ThinkPad keyboards?
I have been using ThinkPads since 2003 or 2002, I forgot the exact year, but I started with T series. I have both X61t and X220t (tablets) and I like X220's (same in the tablet or T420) keyboard slightly better because of its community driven design changes (bigger Del & Esc keys, and a dedicated microphone mute button). The most complain people have about ThinkPad's keyboard is the Fn key position at the very corner, it later has BIOS supported swapping of that key. For me, what it doesn't make sense most is the Fn+Space combo to change screen resolution - it would make sense instead if they use a system like OSX where they can activate an under-the-cursor magnifying lens window.
My ideal laptop is a X220 non-tablet laptop with customized CPU and screen (to FHD or higher) upgrade. I'm not ready yet to jump into the new keyboard design despite many good reviews, plus I really like the extra large Esc and Del keys. My X220 tablet survived 2 drops but the little studs on both sides of the keyboards fell off and I spent like $60 to replace the bezel and palm rest just for cosmetic repairs. A tablet is still something real good to have especially when you use Windows and MS OneNote or any inking software the pressure-sensitivity enhancements.
I really like the TrackPoint, and I wonder what pointing device can really replace it while keeping a similar home-row philosophy.