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Title: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:08:05
It occurred to me this morning when making breakfast.  I had to make one trip to carry milk and bowl to the table, then a second for sugar and Weet-Bix (https://www.weetbix.com.au/) (they were all full and heavy - it would have been hazardous to carry three or more at once).

If I had 4 arms I could have carried them all in one go, and saved myself two trips (before and after brekky) each day.

Pros:

Cons:

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 06 September 2016, 15:18:02
Are you picking up the slack since tp is muted?

On topic, all I can think of is Goro from mortal kombat. We could be fighting kings.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: chyros on Tue, 06 September 2016, 16:13:14
Probably less efficient, because we don't have them.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 06 September 2016, 16:14:58
Or, and stay with me here, you could pour the cereal and milk into the bowl in the kitchen on the counter and carry the sugar and cereal-filled bowl to the table.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 06 September 2016, 16:24:32
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 September 2016, 18:59:26
Are you picking up the slack since tp is muted?

On topic, all I can think of is Goro from mortal kombat. We could be fighting kings.

Maybe.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:00:20
Probably less efficient, because we don't have them.

If we had 4 arms, we would have evolved to support and use them.

Our backs would be stronger and we would be able to carry heavier loads.

We would have extra muscles around the 4 shoulders.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:00:30
You're talking about increasing brain mass by another 10-20%  for the control circuit to happen.

THAT IS MAJOR..
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:01:32
Or, and stay with me here, you could pour the cereal and milk into the bowl in the kitchen on the counter and carry the sugar and cereal-filled bowl to the table.

I have 2 Weet-Bix and milk and sugar first, eat them, then have 2 more.  Putting all 4 in the bowl at once means the ones on the bottom get too soggy, and the ones on the top are too dry.

Plus there's the spoon.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:02:30
For many of the -mathematical- savants,  what happens is a form of synthesia, where some of the normal connections in their brain is broken, and More brain space becomes available for analytical processing..  giving them immense processing power and RAM..

So,  I'd imagine if we had the tech to increase brain mass... we'd probably use it for something other than more arms.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:02:33
  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

My arm goes dead sometimes if I lie on it for too long.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:04:39
You're talking about increasing brain mass by another 10-20%  for the control circuit to happen.

THAT IS MAJOR..

Hello tp4, welcome to my off topic thread.

I don't think we use 10-20% of our brain to control the two arms that we have now.

It would probably only be another 2-5%.

Plus the upper torso would probably be a bit bigger to cater for the increased bone and muscle complexity, so a little more brain up there wouldn't be unwelcome.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:04:54
Two hands to drop things randomly and two hands to catch random objects that were dropped? I'm down. I'll take a few extra limbs
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:05:50
Two hands to drop things randomly and two hands to catch random objects that were dropped? I'm down. I'll take a few extra limbs


I'd rather have more eyes..  or more fingers,  I don't think we need more arms.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:16:16
Why think small?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:19:13
You're talking about increasing brain mass by another 10-20%  for the control circuit to happen.

THAT IS MAJOR..

Hello tp4, welcome to my off topic thread.

I don't think we use 10-20% of our brain to control the two arms that we have now.

It would probably only be another 2-5%.

Plus the upper torso would probably be a bit bigger to cater for the increased bone and muscle complexity, so a little more brain up there wouldn't be unwelcome.

the actual control maybe 2-5,  but we also need more processing,  perhaps another multiplexer, another set of pre-emption processor,

I'd still say at least 10-20
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:25:24
Two hands to drop things randomly and two hands to catch random objects that were dropped? I'm down. I'll take a few extra limbs


I'd rather have more eyes..  or more fingers,  I don't think we need more arms.

I need more arms.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:29:03
Two hands to drop things randomly and two hands to catch random objects that were dropped? I'm down. I'll take a few extra limbs


I'd rather have more eyes..  or more fingers,  I don't think we need more arms.

I need more arms.

now I'm / disappoint

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2006/05/why_cant_i_use_my_third_arm.html
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:29:36
4 arms would be amazing, multi tasking would be further improved, it's just a win win.


I've said this over and over, but if I had to choose either both my legs or arms cut off, legs would go any day. Legs are so easy to replace and replicate to at least somewhat similarly, but prosthetic arms at the moment are nowhere close to being comparable to a real one, unlike legs.



TLDR: arms > legs
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: chyros on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:32:04
Probably less efficient, because we don't have them.

If we had 4 arms, we would have evolved to support and use them.

Our backs would be stronger and we would be able to carry heavier loads.

We would have extra muscles around the 4 shoulders.
All of which costs a lot more physical and mental energy. Sure, we'd be able to do some things better, but my guess is that it wouldn't be overall more efficient.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:32:06
4 arms would be amazing, multi tasking would be further improved, it's just a win win.


I've said this over and over, but if I had to choose either both my legs or arms cut off, legs would go any day. Legs are so easy to replace and replicate to at least somewhat similarly, but prosthetic arms at the moment are nowhere close to being comparable to a real one, unlike legs.



TLDR: arms > legs


What about one leg, and one arm...
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:38:59
4 arms would be amazing, multi tasking would be further improved, it's just a win win.


I've said this over and over, but if I had to choose either both my legs or arms cut off, legs would go any day. Legs are so easy to replace and replicate to at least somewhat similarly, but prosthetic arms at the moment are nowhere close to being comparable to a real one, unlike legs.



TLDR: arms > legs


What about one leg, and one arm...
if I was forced to chose between losing one of my arms or both of my legs, I'd choose both legs.


I do a lot more things with my arms that would be hard to replicate with our current robotic arms
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:39:28
Oh.. small FYI guys,  careful googling amputee, I just did, bad stuff comes up..
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:02:47
It's bad enough waking up with two dead arms (this happens to me at least once a month) so I can't imagine having that happen with four, that'd be 2x the amount of pins-and-needles feelings.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:04:34
It's bad enough waking up with two dead arms (this happens to me at least once a month) so I can't imagine having that happen with four, that'd be 2x the amount of pins-and-needles feelings.

that's not good..  if you wake up with 2 dead arms,  unless you're morbidly obese, then your arms are seriously misaligned while you sleep , 
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:09:02
I had pins and needles in both feet yestreen, but that's another story.

A good point from chyros - if we had evolved with 4 arms we wouldn't know any different, and this thread would probably be discussing the possibility of having 6 arms.

Or just the 2 - that would be funny :))
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:12:26
It's bad enough waking up with two dead arms (this happens to me at least once a month) so I can't imagine having that happen with four, that'd be 2x the amount of pins-and-needles feelings.

that's not good..  if you wake up with 2 dead arms,  unless you're morbidly obese, then your arms are seriously misaligned while you sleep , 

Whenever it's happened, they are fine when I go to sleep, but at some point in my sleep I roll over onto them.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 September 2016, 20:13:11
I had pins and needles in both feet yestreen, but that's another story.

A good point from chyros - if we had evolved with 4 arms we wouldn't know any different, and this thread would probably be discussing the possibility of having 6 arms.

Or just the 2 - that would be funny :))

it's definitely possible.. to have 4 arms,  but we'd have to completely overhaul many things to support 2 extra arms..


Brain area aside,  arms are heavy,  so the rest of the body is not designed to anatomically support them. 

Probably wouldn't attach them at the shoulders.. .. most likely the chest or lower ribs

Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 06 September 2016, 23:58:51
If I had 4 arms I could have carried them all in one go, and saved myself two trips (before and after brekky) each day.

Pros:
  • Easier to carry more things around
  • More fun and complicated sports
Thoughts?

If that was possible, then your next upgrade would be to have 4 Genitals to play with  :-* .
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 September 2016, 00:01:24
If I had 4 arms I could have carried them all in one go, and saved myself two trips (before and after brekky) each day.

Pros:
  • Easier to carry more things around
  • More fun and complicated sports
Thoughts?

If that was possible, then your next upgrade would be to have 4 Genitals to play with  :-* .

Why would that be necessarily,   if such advanced modifications were possible,

Wouldn't you just install an orgasm key somewhere,  cherry mx preferably. 
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 07 September 2016, 02:03:47
Why would that be necessarily,   if such advanced modifications were possible,

Because WE need to perpetuate our species sunshine.  Imagine, a whole new four-armed race ready to conquer the WORLD  8) !
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 September 2016, 02:07:54
Why would that be necessarily,   if such advanced modifications were possible,

Because WE need to perpetuate our species sunshine.  Imagine, a whole new four-armed race ready to conquer the WORLD  8) !


If that were the case, you'd mod females to be much much larger, size of refrigerators, larger females who can produce more babies at once..

I don't see why you'd need more male parts,  because a small quantity of liquid is good for multiple fertile eggs
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: fanpeople on Wed, 07 September 2016, 04:16:06
Four arms would make my weekly gangbang much more efficiant
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 September 2016, 04:20:39
Four arms would make my weekly gangbang much more efficiant

wow, weekly.. endurance ++
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 07 September 2016, 05:22:08
Four arms would make my weekly gangbang much more efficiant

(http://i.imgur.com/TwboDNn.gif)
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 07 September 2016, 05:37:02
If that were the case, you'd mod females to be much much larger, size of refrigerators, larger females who can produce more babies at once..

I don't see why you'd need more male parts,  because a small quantity of liquid is good for multiple fertile eggs

Geez louise, why would you ever need to mod any females  ??? ?

Keep them as they are because having four genitals (men) means doing four chicks at the same time.  Every pubescent's ultimate dream, to do four women but instead of denying three women your prong you can do all four at the same time.

You see where I'm heading with this, far more efficient delivery of your seed by four times the rate.  Gangbang takes on a whole new perspective here because no longer will you see women sitting on the sidelines missing out on getting banged.  In fact they won't be missing out on anything but breaks and recovery time from all that long session of love making.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: chyros on Wed, 07 September 2016, 05:39:50
Four arms would make my weekly gangbang much more efficiant

wow, weekly.. endurance ++
Nah man, endurance is when you just get with someone and you screw like rabbits constantly, every day xD .
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 September 2016, 06:13:07
I had pins and needles in both feet yestreen, but that's another story.

A good point from chyros - if we had evolved with 4 arms we wouldn't know any different, and this thread would probably be discussing the possibility of having 6 arms.

Or just the 2 - that would be funny :))

it's definitely possible.. to have 4 arms,  but we'd have to completely overhaul many things to support 2 extra arms..


Brain area aside,  arms are heavy,  so the rest of the body is not designed to anatomically support them. 

Probably wouldn't attach them at the shoulders.. .. most likely the chest or lower ribs

I'm kinda implying that we evolved with 4 arms, and thus the rest of the body to support them.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 September 2016, 06:13:51
If I had 4 arms I could have carried them all in one go, and saved myself two trips (before and after brekky) each day.

Pros:
  • Easier to carry more things around
  • More fun and complicated sports
Thoughts?

If that was possible, then your next upgrade would be to have 4 Genitals to play with  :-* .

Or four MOTAS with one set of genitals each.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 07 September 2016, 07:28:45
Four arms would make my weekly gangbang much more efficiant

wow, weekly.. endurance ++
Nah man, endurance is when you just get with someone and you screw like rabbits constantly, every day xD .

 :eek:
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 September 2016, 11:42:45
If that were the case, you'd mod females to be much much larger, size of refrigerators, larger females who can produce more babies at once..

I don't see why you'd need more male parts,  because a small quantity of liquid is good for multiple fertile eggs

Geez louise, why would you ever need to mod any females  ??? ?

Keep them as they are because having four genitals (men) means doing four chicks at the same time.  Every pubescent's ultimate dream, to do four women but instead of denying three women your prong you can do all four at the same time.

You see where I'm heading with this, far more efficient delivery of your seed by four times the rate.  Gangbang takes on a whole new perspective here because no longer will you see women sitting on the sidelines missing out on getting banged.  In fact they won't be missing out on anything but breaks and recovery time from all that long session of love making.

oh come on... you know that wouldn't work... GEOMETRY.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: chyros on Wed, 07 September 2016, 14:11:10
If that were the case, you'd mod females to be much much larger, size of refrigerators, larger females who can produce more babies at once..

I don't see why you'd need more male parts,  because a small quantity of liquid is good for multiple fertile eggs

Geez louise, why would you ever need to mod any females  ??? ?

Keep them as they are because having four genitals (men) means doing four chicks at the same time.  Every pubescent's ultimate dream, to do four women but instead of denying three women your prong you can do all four at the same time.

You see where I'm heading with this, far more efficient delivery of your seed by four times the rate.  Gangbang takes on a whole new perspective here because no longer will you see women sitting on the sidelines missing out on getting banged.  In fact they won't be missing out on anything but breaks and recovery time from all that long session of love making.

oh come on... you know that wouldn't work... GEOMETRY.
Who says the genitals would all have to be in the same place?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 September 2016, 14:16:17
No headphone jack would be less efficient with 4 arms.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 08 September 2016, 05:34:55
No headphone jack would be less efficient with 4 arms.

Wireless arms?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 10 September 2016, 04:23:42
No headphone jack would be less efficient with 4 arms.

Wireless arms?

I guess you would still need to plug them in for power/charging
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: bazh on Sat, 10 September 2016, 04:26:35
what about tail, what if we have a tail that can be trained to hold things...
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: BLaZe on Sat, 10 September 2016, 05:25:54
You can be a god at any sport combat.
And you'll be able to compet against korean players on starcraft  :thumb:
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 September 2016, 05:35:25
You can be a god at any sport combat.
And you'll be able to compet against korean players on starcraft  :thumb:


But everyone else would have 4 arms too - it would be the norm.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 September 2016, 06:56:48
what about tail, what if we have a tail that can be trained to hold things...

Most animals don't have extremely dextrose tails ..

It's nothing like an elephant's trunk..

So I guess if maybe you'd have a modified tail that's similar to the elephant trunk where the tail would be..

I guess that's what you mean.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 11 September 2016, 10:14:28
So I can have four elephant trunks instead of four arms? That's pretty cool
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 11 September 2016, 10:21:50
I think it depends what job you do. Workers on a production line would ALL be 4 armed if you could get them. Working in IT, I can't think how they would be more beneficial and they would probably spend a large amount of time doing nothing unless my brain could type and use a phone at the same.

Also I sleep on my front so that wouldn't be effected.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 September 2016, 10:26:27
Are Octopuses more efficient than men?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 September 2016, 11:03:21
Are Octopuses more efficient than men?


They're more efficient underwater for sure...
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)

Michael phelps is only 4.4mph underwater..

an Octopus can go as fast as 25 mph... 
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/washing-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862524)
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 September 2016, 11:08:07
You know what'd be super interesting..  Octopus LANDSPEED  racing..   I'd watch that over turtle racing.

Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sun, 11 September 2016, 12:37:54
Are Octopuses more efficient than men?

Yes.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: bazh on Sun, 11 September 2016, 14:32:36
Are Octopuses more efficient than men?

at least they don't go 2 trips


And they run underwater quite fast too

(http://i.imgur.com/3wXMF13.gif)
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 11 September 2016, 14:47:25
How has no one brought up the main issue: With our current torso design the arms would have no 'resting state' and would therefore constantly be exerting energy while our bodies were upright causing constant fatigue.

One pair would have to come from our sholderblades, able to rest them over the shoulders and out of the way while not in use, freeing the lower pair to be used.

If you think about human physiology this makes the most sense for adaptation, since having the arms come from on high would allow for intricate work right in from of our faces. More suited to human adaptation, whereas a second pair of arms coming from the lower torso would have evolved from sheer workhorse adaptation.

I believe it would come down to having a weaker but more dexterous pair of arms from above our current set, or stronger force-centric arms below our current pair which also could cause potential fatigue.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 September 2016, 14:55:33
How has no one brought up the main issue: With our current torso design the arms would have no 'resting state' and would therefore constantly be exerting energy while our bodies were upright causing constant fatigue.

One pair would have to come from our sholderblades, able to rest them over the shoulders and out of the way while not in use, freeing the lower pair to be used.

If you think about human physiology this makes the most sense for adaptation, since having the arms come from on high would allow for intricate work right in from of our faces. More suited to human adaptation, whereas a second pair of arms coming from the lower torso would have evolved from sheer workhorse adaptation.

I believe it would come down to having a weaker but more dexterous pair of arms from above our current set, or stronger force-centric arms below our current pair which also could cause potential fatigue.

It'd probably be like a double shoulder,

We'd have a second set of clavicle and acromion which protrude from behind our current one.

Possibly a little lower or a little higher, doesn't matter, but it would still be hanging at rest.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 September 2016, 21:53:02
How has no one brought up the main issue: With our current torso design the arms would have no 'resting state' and would therefore constantly be exerting energy while our bodies were upright causing constant fatigue.

One pair would have to come from our sholderblades, able to rest them over the shoulders and out of the way while not in use, freeing the lower pair to be used.

If you think about human physiology this makes the most sense for adaptation, since having the arms come from on high would allow for intricate work right in from of our faces. More suited to human adaptation, whereas a second pair of arms coming from the lower torso would have evolved from sheer workhorse adaptation.

I believe it would come down to having a weaker but more dexterous pair of arms from above our current set, or stronger force-centric arms below our current pair which also could cause potential fatigue.

I was thinking that the existing shoulders would be wider, and then have a second set of shoulders underneath.

It could be possible to have just the two shoulders, and one pair of arms primarily front-focussed and another pair of arms primarily back-focussed, but you'd literally need a pair of eyes in the back of your head to make any real use of them.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tacnificent on Mon, 12 September 2016, 12:05:52
You could just use a tray for all those you carry for breakfast couldn't you?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 September 2016, 21:26:14
As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 13 September 2016, 21:58:51
You could just use a tray for all those you carry for breakfast couldn't you?

Nice idea, but the distance from storage to table is about 2 metres, which is about 2 steps.  To involve a tray in the procedure would add another item to be carried there and back, plus loading and unloading times.

Actually I could probably stand in the middle of the floor, lean towards the kitchen counter to grab bowl, spoon and drink bottle, then lean the other way to put them on the table.  Except that would increase the possibility of dropping one or more of the items to an unacceptable level.  Plus that early in the morning I'd probably keep falling over which would add to even more delays.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 14 September 2016, 04:59:52
As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.
you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 14 September 2016, 06:02:44
As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.
you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 September 2016, 10:02:09
As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.
you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.


4 real cores,  with hyperthreading ,  = 8 spoonfulls..  (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/admire-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862486)
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 14 September 2016, 10:34:29
As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.
you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.


4 real cores,  with hyperthreading ,  = 8 spoonfulls.. 
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/admire-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862486)


44 real cores, with hyperthreading , = tp IoT army (http://i.imgur.com/xSO1456.gif)
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 September 2016, 11:05:01
As an American..   I would like to be able to hold 4 guns.. Quad wield.. pew pew.
you're American?

Surprised you didn't realise you can eat 2x quicker.

You'd still only have one mouth.

But you could queue up 4 spoonfuls of food at a time, instead of just two.


4 real cores,  with hyperthreading ,  = 8 spoonfulls.. 
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Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 September 2016, 06:10:57
We have hyper-threaded brains.

Left and right hemisphere.

amirite?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 15 September 2016, 06:39:11
We have hyper-threaded brains.

Left and right hemisphere.

amirite?
So brains are just 1 core 2 threads?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 15 September 2016, 13:00:20
We have hyper-threaded brains.

Left and right hemisphere.

amirite?
So brains are just 1 core 2 threads?

Ummmmmmm,   we have 2 cores, 1 cpu, and the system bus is the Corpus callosum, the interconnect between brains..  or maybe the l2 cache is.. hrrrm not sure.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: bazh on Thu, 15 September 2016, 15:06:40
But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 15 September 2016, 15:32:43
But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.

Now that you mention it--a few minutes ago Chrome ate all my available memory and refused to give it back :(
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 01 October 2016, 06:20:27
But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.

Now that you mention it--a few minutes ago Chrome ate all my available memory and refused to give it back :(

I've found Chrome release memory better that most other browsers.

But I use Firefox to browse GH as the smooth scrolling is better.

With one arm too!  Well, for most of the last two weeks anyway.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 01 October 2016, 06:44:25
But can we agree that we have ****ty memories? Even our RAM crashes sometimes.

Now that you mention it--a few minutes ago Chrome ate all my available memory and refused to give it back :(

I've found Chrome release memory better that most other browsers.

But I use Firefox to browse GH as the smooth scrolling is better.

With one arm too!  Well, for most of the last two weeks anyway.

I switched to Mint and Chromium. Seems to work pretty well. I learned a few display priority tweaks that smoothed out most of it :thumb: 
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 October 2016, 09:42:49
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..
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Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 October 2016, 03:42:27
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..
Show Image
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Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 02 October 2016, 04:43:14
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bad-atmosphere-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)



Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?


I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 October 2016, 05:02:33
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bad-atmosphere-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)



Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?


I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 02 October 2016, 08:35:53
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bad-atmosphere-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)



Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?


I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?


It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 02 October 2016, 08:47:58
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bad-atmosphere-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)



Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?


I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?


It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..
Two irons in one hand?  Feet?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 October 2016, 05:11:58
Two hands for keyboard, one for mouse and one spare to move papers, sign things, answer the phone...  Can't see any argument against bonus arms in an office environment.  Would be great for soldering too - two hands to hold parts, one to hold the iron and one for the solder.

My only hesitation is could we make maximum use of them with only one set of eyes?

  • Even more awkward to sleep

This makes it sound like you already have problems sleeping and blame them on having arms?!

I just had a bout with solder demons..

Would've honestly liked 6 hands..


4 soldering irons in 4 hands,    and 2 other hands to hold the workpiece at an angle..
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/bad-atmosphere-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)



Using 4 soldering irons at once would be dangerous.  You'd need extra eyes to watch all the joints you are soldering.

Does anyone even use 2 soldering irons at once?


I've used 3 at a time, with only the 2 hands that I have..

2 in right hand like chopsticks, and one in the left.

Wasn't that awkward?

Were you more productive that way, than you would have been using one at a time?


It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 October 2016, 14:53:45

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

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Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 04 October 2016, 05:09:58

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 October 2016, 09:43:20

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: xtrafrood on Tue, 04 October 2016, 14:58:04

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

I thought I saw a dolphin in that drawing. Is there a dolphin?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 04 October 2016, 20:58:49

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 October 2016, 21:21:05

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

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Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 October 2016, 04:13:12

It was the only way to desolder multiple things simultaneously because they were glued together on one end.



My most elaborate scheme was when I also had a string tied to the pcb which I'd pull with my teeth as I was desoldering with 3 irons.

hahahahhahahaha..  that worked,  but it's quite dangerous..

I'm trying to picture that but my mind keeps shutting down.

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

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Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 October 2016, 04:39:36

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

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Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.


But did you also take into account lens distortion.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/big-eye-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862491)
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 October 2016, 05:03:10

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/ahaaah-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)


Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.


But did you also take into account lens distortion..
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What lens?
Title: Re: Would we be more or less efficient with 4 arms?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 October 2016, 12:03:15

Drew a picture

(Attachment Link)

Looks like drinking through a straw while eating dots with chopsticks.

Tp4 = best @ drawing

Also your left arm seems way longer than your right arm.

That's because given that photo's perspective my left arm is closer to the viewer,  therefore...... I drew it larger..

Tis' Rudimentary Watson, rudimentary

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/ahaaah-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)


Actually I did take that into account.

Allowing for perspective, your left arm still seems longer.


But did you also take into account lens distortion..
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What lens?

Have compensated for the lens as viewed through a human eye (which has a lens_

That is the correct length as it should be..