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geekhack Community => Other Geeky Stuff => Topic started by: Geroximo on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:40:51
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Sapphire R9 390 user here.
Not really into updating drivers.
Today I decided to format my computer. Do a nice clean install. Make the Computer great again! hue hue
Installing latest AMD driver for my graphicscard.
FPS dropping harder than *insert joke here*
WTF is going on!?
Literally unplayable. FPS dropping down to 15 fps in Overwatch.
1 hour of trying to find the problem.
This shouldn't be happening. The computer should run better after my clean install.
Think to myself: I didnīt use the latest driver before, maybe use an older one.
Installing driver from April 2016.
Well, better than before, but still not playable.
Another hour of troubleshooting and installing tons of GPU related programms to monitor wtf is wrong.
Read random comment on the forums that I should install AMDs old Catalyst Control Center.
Wut!? This doesn't make any sense ...
Installing driver from freakin 2015!
... It's working.
Getting more fps than ever before.
Now guys,
what the actual **** !?
How is it possible, that the newer the driver, the ****tier the performance?
This is a goddamn joke.
I regret buying AMD. This will be my last AMD card.
If I wouldn't have spent all my money on keyboards, I'd already have a GTX incoming.
I really don't know what to say ... this is ridicolous.
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU, AMD?
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AMD
There's your problem.
I'm not trying to play into the NVIDIA fanboiism, but as far as driver support is concerned they're significantly better.
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AMD
There's your problem.
I'm not trying to play into the NVIDIA fanboiism, but as far as driver support is concerned they're significantly better.
Oh really? How's that Microstutter.. hahahahaha
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I jumped ship to Nvidia from AMD after my 7970 within 2 years. Never looking back :cool:
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AMD
There's your problem.
I'm not trying to play into the NVIDIA fanboiism, but as far as driver support is concerned they're significantly better.
Oh really? How's that Microstutter.. hahahahaha
A couple months ago you didn't even know what frametimes were... now you're an expert? =)
AMD's newest cards have frametime issues as well, while NVIDIA's issues have mostly been solved by driver updates and settings tweaks.
But to the actual OP, NVIDIA does the same thing with drivers that you just experienced. There is a large group of people who feel it's a conspiracy by GPU makers to force upgrades over time, but the reality is likely just that certain tweaks which benefit newer cards adversely affect older cards. These problems sometimes get solved, sometimes not. It's kind of a crap shoot. Read over on guru3d and you'll see loads of complaints/rants/explanations about this in each thread for each new driver release.
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Are AMD Linux drivers still pretty much useless?
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Are AMD Linux drivers still pretty much useless?
Nope.
The open-source "radeon" driver is still the go-to option for office usage, Intel aside. If you need a stable 2D/composite desktop and perhaps some video or older/independent games, it can work pretty much flawlessly, which has never been quite possible with *any* proprietary drivers.
fglrx was garbage for the most part indeed, but AMD has moved away from that to a new architecture, which is a combination of open-source components and a proprietary part (AMDGPU). It may take a while to get full adoption in downstream, but it should be much easier to maintain in the future.
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Surprise, surprise - the old Catalyst driver is running better, but not stable anymore.
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AMD
There's your problem.
I'm not trying to play into the NVIDIA fanboiism, but as far as driver support is concerned they're significantly better.
AMD drivers stink, back when I used Windows I used to joke that every other release was a beta.
However,
I will, if at all possible, NEVER run another Nvidia product, there is a special place in hell reserved for the leadership of that company.
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AMD
There's your problem.
I'm not trying to play into the NVIDIA fanboiism, but as far as driver support is concerned they're significantly better.
Oh really? How's that Microstutter.. hahahahaha
A couple months ago you didn't even know what frametimes were... now you're an expert? =)
AMD's newest cards have frametime issues as well, while NVIDIA's issues have mostly been solved by driver updates and settings tweaks.
But to the actual OP, NVIDIA does the same thing with drivers that you just experienced. There is a large group of people who feel it's a conspiracy by GPU makers to force upgrades over time, but the reality is likely just that certain tweaks which benefit newer cards adversely affect older cards. These problems sometimes get solved, sometimes not. It's kind of a crap shoot. Read over on guru3d and you'll see loads of complaints/rants/explanations about this in each thread for each new driver release.
Hahahahah.. YES, I am now Super Xpert lvl99 . DPC latency is a major issue with Nvidia right now;
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Just for the record: Crimson 15.12 WHQL driver fixed it for me.
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Yea those fresh new Crimson drivers lock up me computer something fierce. My OS likes OpenGL. OpenCL is a dayum shame too. Cuda is king
For the record - not a R9 390 user but I am a reluctant AMD gpu user :'(
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Meh, running a Sapphire R9 390 latest drivers with no issues. Really is an outstanding card
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Meh, running a Sapphire R9 390 latest drivers with no issues. Really is an outstanding card
You're like the guy who's Ford Pinto didn't explode
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Meh, running a Sapphire R9 390 latest drivers with no issues. Really is an outstanding card
You're like the guy who's Ford Pinto didn't explode
Reports range from 27 to 180 deaths as a result of rear-impact-related fuel tank fires in the Pinto, but given the volume of more than 2.2 million vehicles sold, the death rate was not substantially different from that of vehicles by Ford's competitors. The far more damaging result for Ford was the PR disaster. --Popular Mechanics,2011
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AMD is shiddy after the 7950/70 series
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Meh, running a Sapphire R9 390 latest drivers with no issues. Really is an outstanding card
You're like the guy who's Ford Pinto didn't explode
Reports range from 27 to 180 deaths as a result of rear-impact-related fuel tank fires in the Pinto, but given the volume of more than 2.2 million vehicles sold, the death rate was not substantially different from that of vehicles by Ford's competitors. The far more damaging result for Ford was the PR disaster. --Popular Mechanics,2011
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Sure, but you can't say it was an outstanding, reliable car!
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Ive had both green and red. Unless your using a reference card with a blower in a closet the card will run fine.
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Even though I will look like a complete idiot after admitting this, I owe it to AMD and other people experiencing the same problem:
The actual problem was, that after doing a clean install of Windows 7, the Windows Update service got bugged and was running in the backround the whole time. This drew so much CPU power, that the graphicscard was bottlenecked.
Shame on me. It wasn't AMDs fault.
After fixing Windows update, everything is working fine since then. Even with the newest driver.
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Glad you fixed it!
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Even though I will look like a complete idiot after admitting this, I owe it to AMD and other people experiencing the same problem:
The actual problem was, that after doing a clean install of Windows 7, the Windows Update service got bugged and was running in the backround the whole time. This drew so much CPU power, that the graphicscard was bottlenecked.
Shame on me. It wasn't AMDs fault.
After fixing Windows update, everything is working fine since then. Even with the newest driver.
If you're on 7, let it update once, then kill it permanently.
I would also look into Win7 telemetry removal.
All new updates, which will be all but worthless, are going to be all or nothing. Problem with a patch, awww too bad, upgrade to Win10. Slow internet due to a driver update, aww, too bad, switch to Win10...
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Just for the record: Crimson 15.12 WHQL driver fixed it for me.
No point in even mentioning this now.
By posting a GPU thread, it immediately absorbs the virus of brand bickering.