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Title: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: tiger on Fri, 09 September 2016, 10:48:03
I don't have much experience with chiclets, which is why I probably hate them.

What are the best chiclet keyboards? Which switches are the topre quality equivalent in the chiclet world?

Would prefer something with very low actuation force (<30g).
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 09 September 2016, 10:50:57
My wife likes whatever is the newest product sold by Apple.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: romevi on Fri, 09 September 2016, 10:52:19
I love my MBP keyboard. I heard Windows makes some good ones lately, too.
Chiclets are scissor-switches, right? If so, I've heard great things about the TypeMatrix.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: WarCommand on Fri, 09 September 2016, 10:57:01
I love my MBP keyboard. I heard Windows makes some good ones lately, too.
Chiclets are scissor-switches, right? If so, I've heard great things about the TypeMatrix.
I'd never seen a TypeMatrix until now. My head hurts.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: Tactile on Fri, 09 September 2016, 11:07:56
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Which switches are the topre quality equivalent in the chiclet world?
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I just squirted coffee through my nose.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: romevi on Fri, 09 September 2016, 11:47:45
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Which switches are the topre quality equivalent in the chiclet world?
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I just squirted coffee through my nose.

And you weren't even drinking coffee.  :confused:
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: Hyde on Fri, 09 September 2016, 13:13:51
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Which switches are the topre quality equivalent in the chiclet world?
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I just squirted coffee through my nose.

And you weren't even drinking coffee.  :confused:

The answer you're looking for is call Topre Short Throw.  :thumb:

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_short-throw_keyboards
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 09 September 2016, 13:43:30
The answer you're looking for is call Topre Short Throw.  :thumb:

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_short-throw_keyboards

wut! i wanna try those :o
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 09 September 2016, 14:09:44
What are the best chiclet keyboards? Which switches are the topre quality equivalent in the chiclet world?
I suppose that what you are looking for is "low-profile".
"Chiclet" is a keycap style where there are borders between all keys. They are also called "island keys".
For instance, the Rapoo KX (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Rapoo_KX) has chiclet keys but is not low profile.

My favourite low-profile keyboards have Logitech "PerfectStroke" switches. They are scissor switches that are quite hard but snappy and with comparatively high key travel.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 09 September 2016, 14:33:06
Metal scissor switches. Whatever has metal scissor switches and domes made of silicone that can be reconstituted would be my product of choice. Might need little cone springs to help strengthen the domes, though. Probably far fetched and very expensive. Might be cheaper to buy one of those MSI behemoths /shrug
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 09 September 2016, 14:34:51
The answer you're looking for is call Topre Short Throw.  :thumb:

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_short-throw_keyboards

(http://replygif.net/thumbnail/1130.gif)
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: keyladding on Sat, 10 September 2016, 02:44:12
Metal scissor switches. Whatever has metal scissor switches and domes made of silicone that can be reconstituted would be my product of choice. Might need little cone springs to help strengthen the domes, though. Probably far fetched and very expensive. Might be cheaper to buy one of those MSI behemoths /shrug

Razer introduced one.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 10 September 2016, 07:25:56
G20 flat keycaps + cherry mx speed switches, if I recall they bottom out in 3.2mm vs 4mm of the normal ones.

Pok3r will soon be available with cherry speed switches
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 10 September 2016, 09:43:36
Metal scissor switches. Whatever has metal scissor switches and domes made of silicone that can be reconstituted would be my product of choice. Might need little cone springs to help strengthen the domes, though. Probably far fetched and very expensive. Might be cheaper to buy one of those MSI behemoths /shrug

Razer introduced one.

More deets please. I was being completely ridiculous but if you say razor has a keyboard with metal scissor switches I'd love to know what it is called. Topre short throw is a no brainer--it would be nice to have a Thinkpad with those :cool:
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 10 September 2016, 10:40:07
I'll just throw in this here (https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%88%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3-BFKB113PBK-%E3%83%93%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%95%E3%82%A7%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-%E8%A4%87%E6%95%B0%E5%90%8C%E6%99%82%E6%8A%BC%E3%81%97%E5%AF%BE%E5%BF%9C%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%BF%E3%82%A4%E3%83%97%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89/dp/B00NBCFDTW) I was told it is very good for a chiclet (looking at the price probably still far off of endgame though), but never got to test one for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: keyladding on Sat, 10 September 2016, 11:15:54
Metal scissor switches. Whatever has metal scissor switches and domes made of silicone that can be reconstituted would be my product of choice. Might need little cone springs to help strengthen the domes, though. Probably far fetched and very expensive. Might be cheaper to buy one of those MSI behemoths /shrug

Razer introduced one.

More deets please. I was being completely ridiculous but if you say razor has a keyboard with metal scissor switches I'd love to know what it is called. Topre short throw is a no brainer--it would be nice to have a Thinkpad with those :cool:

http://www.razerzone.com/au-en/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-ornata-chroma
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 10 September 2016, 12:11:37
Metal scissor switches. Whatever has metal scissor switches and domes made of silicone that can be reconstituted would be my product of choice. Might need little cone springs to help strengthen the domes, though. Probably far fetched and very expensive. Might be cheaper to buy one of those MSI behemoths /shrug

Razer introduced one.

More deets please. I was being completely ridiculous but if you say razor has a keyboard with metal scissor switches I'd love to know what it is called. Topre short throw is a no brainer--it would be nice to have a Thinkpad with those :cool:

http://www.razerzone.com/au-en/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-ornata-chroma

Huh.. so a generic rubber dome with a metal leaf to imitate a tactile click? That is really bizarre
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 10 September 2016, 13:54:59
That crap does not belong in this discussion. It is not low-profile, chiclet or scissor. There is a thread about it (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84507.msg2255775#msg2255775) already.
Title: Re: Endgame worthy chiclet keyboards?
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 10 September 2016, 18:41:30
wow, TypeMatrix indeed looks pretty cool