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Title: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: letsjigsrocks on Sat, 10 September 2016, 08:29:17
Is Varmilo using Step Sculpture 2 (SS2) or Cherry Profile?

As far as I know, its SS2. My question, is SS2 profile same with cherry profile?

I'm torn getting a cherry profile for two-tone but I don't know if it will be compatible to my Varmilo stock keycap.
Title: Re: Step Sculpture 2
Post by: Birdsht on Sat, 10 September 2016, 09:08:54
(https://s17.postimg.org/5lrqn1467/common_keys.png)
Title: Re: Step Sculpture 2
Post by: letsjigsrocks on Sat, 10 September 2016, 10:32:21
Quote from: Birdsht on Sat, 10 September 2016, 09:08:54
Show Image
(https://s17.postimg.org/5lrqn1467/common_keys.png)


I'm shocked of this. never thought of it that it is OEM. Is this updated?
Title: Re: Step Sculpture 2
Post by: letsjigsrocks on Sat, 10 September 2016, 11:16:47
Quote from: Birdsht on Sat, 10 September 2016, 09:08:54
Show Image
(https://s17.postimg.org/5lrqn1467/common_keys.png)


Took shot of my board. It seemed to be more cherry profile than OEM. The ESC row and NUMBER ROW are the same.

Never mind the plate(It's just bond paper :)) :)))

(http://i.imgur.com/TKSUR07.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/IiZRUBp.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/f0QkEEs.jpg)
Title: Re: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: letsjigsrocks on Thu, 15 September 2016, 02:21:46
Anyone here could mix cherry profile and varmilo caps? How is it?
Title: Re: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: silaz on Sun, 18 September 2016, 20:31:11
This is really shocking, I was fairly convinced Varmilo was SS2! The more you know...
Title: Re: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: potatobot on Mon, 19 September 2016, 00:23:50
There is no way in hell varmilo keycaps are OEM. I have ducky pbt OEMs and they are too high compared to my varmilo stock keycaps.

Varmilo are SS2, almost cherry profile.

Edit*

Proof
(http://i.imgur.com/VC4aASs.jpg)
varmilo with SS2 profile

(http://i.imgur.com/lCddIfv.jpg)
Tai-hao with OEM

(http://i.imgur.com/KXJMnGd.jpg)
R1 side by side comparison

more photos here: http://imgur.com/a/KueuL
Title: Re: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: nyunyu on Wed, 21 September 2016, 06:33:42
What is the height of the Esc key on Varmilo caps?

For comparison OEM caps are 14mm high, Cherry profiled caps are only 10mm:
(http://i.imgur.com/LFt2unA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ssx5Ax8.jpg)

Left to right: Cherry MX-Board 2/3 (ultralow profile), Gateron blanks (Cherry profile), Max/WASDKeyboard (OEM), vintage BTC (almost Cherry profile)
Title: Re: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: nyunyu on Wed, 21 September 2016, 07:03:21
Quote from: letsjigsrocks on Sat, 10 September 2016, 08:29:17
I'm torn getting a cherry profile for two-tone but I don't know if it will be compatible to my Varmilo stock keycap.

If you have white Varmilo caps, then you can try dyeing them yourself.
PBT can be colored very easily with nylon dyes. (Dylon MultiPurpose, Rit, iDye)

I was playing a bit with Dylon:
(http://i.imgur.com/m3dUBvv.jpg])
Full process: http://imgur.com/a/Eovom (http://imgur.com/a/Eovom)

I wanted light blue mod keys, but I messed up the cooking time, PBT needs around 10 minutes.
(Earlier I tried to dye an ABS set, which was barely colored after 30 minutes, even after I added 200ml acetone as thinner)
Title: Re: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: potatobot on Wed, 21 September 2016, 08:37:35
Quote from: nyunyu on Wed, 21 September 2016, 07:03:21
Quote from: letsjigsrocks on Sat, 10 September 2016, 08:29:17
I'm torn getting a cherry profile for two-tone but I don't know if it will be compatible to my Varmilo stock keycap.

If you have white Varmilo caps, then you can try dyeing them yourself.
PBT can be colored very easily with nylon dyes. (Dylon MultiPurpose, Rit, iDye)

I was playing a bit with Dylon:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/m3dUBvv.jpg])

Full process: http://imgur.com/a/Eovom (http://imgur.com/a/Eovom)

I wanted light blue mod keys, but I messed up the cooking time, PBT needs around 10 minutes.
(Earlier I tried to dye an ABS set, which was barely colored after 30 minutes, even after I added 200ml acetone as thinner)

im interested to try this. if my caps have dye sub, would the prints be covered?

i wanted to have cyan + dark grey caps
Title: Re: Varmilo profile vs cherry profile
Post by: nyunyu on Wed, 21 September 2016, 09:39:15
Quote from: potatobot on Wed, 21 September 2016, 08:37:35
im interested to try this. if my caps have dye sub, would the prints be covered?

i wanted to have cyan + dark grey caps

There are a lot of good dyeing guides on Deskthority, like this one:
https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/dylon-dyeing-of-pbt-caps-more-experiments-t5433.html (https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/dylon-dyeing-of-pbt-caps-more-experiments-t5433.html)