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geekhack Projects => Making Stuff Together! => Topic started by: LifeIsOnTheWire on Sun, 25 September 2016, 12:27:03
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It seems like some people on here have used Ponoko.com to have their plates cut. I've seen a few people using their Acrylic, and a few using plywood, etc
I've done some searching on GH, and I've read a bunch of discussions, but it's hard to decypher what was based on real results, and what was just brainstorming.
I don't think its worth discussing metals, as there is no question as to how well metals work. I'm mostly interested in results with 1.5mm materials (to keep the click-in benefit of the MX switches), because it's pretty obvious that you can use any thickness of most materials if you are willing to glue/friction-mount.
Acrylic - most people say 1.5mm is too fragile, some people suggest a 2nd lower plate with larger holes to support the upper 1.5mm plate, has anyone really done this? perhaps by gluing them together? or perhaps no support-plate, and just used lots of standoffs/legs to support it?
Delrin - is 1.5mm too flexible? do you need lots of standoffs/legs to keep it from sagging over time?
Silicone - same concerns as delrin?
Plywood - is 1.5mm too fragile? perhaps the same solutions as 1.5mm acrylic (support-plate, or lots of legs)?
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Probably the only material strong enough for a bare plate at 1.5mm would be stainless steel. Aluminum would be OK if going in a case.
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I've seen an Atreus made of 1.5mm plywood plates.
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I think Atreus works because the bottom of the MX center mounting pin is sitting on the bottom plate.
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I have a plate made from their 1.5mm Delrin. It's a bit thicker than 1.5, so my switches don't clip in mostly.
It's more flexible than acrylic. Wouldn't use it as a standalone case but works fine for a plate.
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I think Atreus works because the bottom of the MX center mounting pin is sitting on the bottom plate.
Most Atreus use a PCB along with the wooden plate which gives that extra rigidity. I had enough clearance to route the excess cable of my micro-b extension between the bottom plate and PCB.
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1.5mm thick metal of just about any variety will provide enough structure for a keyboard. Any non metallic material will need significant additional support.
1.5mm acrylic is pretty damn fragile. I didn't put the calipers on it, but I think the keyboard I have with a "1.5mm" acrylic plate is actually closer to 2mm. And then there's a 3mm layer below it. No need to glue because of the PCB; there's 5mm of space between the bottom of an MX switch and the lip that sits on the plate. If you are hand wiring, that's a different story. Acrylic is a pain to "glue", especially two sheets together.
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Here's my build using a 1.5mm acrylic plate from ponoko: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82528.msg2186141
Works fine. I used a technique that I found on another post here - use 2 3mm spacers and the switches will rest on the bottom plate so it's supported all around quite nicely. I didn't glue them in so they're not that solid in the plate (they can be pulled out with your fingers) but that didn't cause any problems in using them. So I think doing a 1.5mm plate + 3mm spacer + 3mm spacer + base works just fine. It's reasonably cheap, easy to have made, and looks very good (I added a more expensive wood top cover for style but that's not strictly necessary).