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Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 15 January 2010, 05:55:38

Link (http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m68747600)

The one and only...

(http://img173.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/5/8/2/9/vajrosnisa-img600x450-1263453856cn967u31170.jpg)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Fri, 15 January 2010, 08:40:33

Nice find.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: msiegel on Fri, 15 January 2010, 17:36:29

:nod: mmm

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 15 January 2010, 17:50:27

Supposedly they are as well built as the M. Different feel off the keypress by all accounts though - they use the removable 'Brother Switch' BS.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 15 January 2010, 18:05:23

The odds of you finding one on eBay are next to none, let alone finding one for cheap.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Fri, 15 January 2010, 23:10:51

This is the reason I've been trying to stay away from Yahoo Japan. I just knew once I quit looking something like this would come up making me waver in my resolve to save for a μTRON. Must resist because at 8,000 yen it is going to be hard to not bid this one up a little and see if I can get it. Besides it would be cool to have a Model M webwit does not have :)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 16 January 2010, 04:51:49

Quote from: rdjack21;151231

This is the reason I've been trying to stay away from Yahoo Japan. I just knew once I quit looking something like this would come up making me waver in my resolve to save for a μTRON. Must resist because at 8,000 yen it is going to be hard to not bid this one up a little and see if I can get it. Besides it would be cool to have a Model M webwit does not have :)

Oh, just to make things worse for you -

(http://img359.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/3/6/3/0/chomeiji-img600x450-1263139232fa7ebr11268.jpg)

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/132015419 (http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/132015419)

Yep, it's PS/2 compatible. Uses Alps Plate Spring switches. All for a mere 1,000¥

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Sat, 16 January 2010, 05:33:51

Quote from: webwit;151251

*******

Thank you so much for sharing your most intimate feelings with all of us!

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 16 January 2010, 14:37:24

Quote from: webwit;151251

kishy is like the ultimate loser, lol
No future and proud of it too. Like going to vintage car forums and loudly proclaiming you'll buy a Ferrari for $10 after endlessly harassing a seller, and that this all makes you a god instead of a cheap piece of boring, non-buying crap, who wants to tell you over and over again about what he is not going to buy because he is too cheap. Interesting, tell us more! Not! In the meantime this ******* is harassing small vendors because that is his attitude towards hard working people who are not ultimate losers, and who don't have an ambition to be the same loser in 10 years.

Most people don't even pay what Kishy pays for old keyboards. And I'm sorry to say but someone paying less for computer input devices is not what determines if they're a loser.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: msiegel on Sat, 16 January 2010, 15:02:03

.. go to a police auction?

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 16 January 2010, 15:07:36

If you want to pay for my flights to Japan, then sure!

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 16 January 2010, 15:14:28

I hope i'm not the only one weary of posts with no value except ad hominem attacks without humor. We all live in glass houses.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: msiegel on Sat, 16 January 2010, 15:17:16

that reminds me, i have windows to wash

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: msiegel on Sat, 16 January 2010, 15:30:36

i thought the police with the ferrari was pretty funny.

that was gonna be a good save.

i am disappoint :(

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 16 January 2010, 17:14:20

But if a smurf lives in a glass house, would anyone look?

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 16 January 2010, 17:39:08

This is the sort of **** that kept Socrates awake at night...

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: msiegel on Sun, 17 January 2010, 00:44:02

Quote from: ricercar;151374

But if a smurf lives in a glass house, would anyone look?

nope! :D

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/3437626350_7a7134596d.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/annia316/3437626350/in/set-72157594176967517/)

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Post by: didjamatic on Sun, 17 January 2010, 09:27:08

Das is unter yucken housen

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Sun, 17 January 2010, 16:40:32

Quote from: ch_123;151252

Oh, just to make things worse for you -

Show Image

(http://img359.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/3/6/3/0/chomeiji-img600x450-1263139232fa7ebr11268.jpg)

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/132015419 (http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/132015419)

Yep, it's PS/2 compatible. Uses Alps Plate Spring switches. All for a mere 1,000¥

I'll pass unless they're key/key-cap swappable.  I'll make a note of the part number, however.
Part numbers: 5576-A01 / 94X1220.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 17 January 2010, 16:48:19

Swappable with what?

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Sun, 17 January 2010, 16:54:05

Quote from: ch_123;151594

Swappable with what?

Model M/Model F equivalents, which are quite different.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 17 January 2010, 17:04:42

Nope, completely different. But hey, you wouldnt be buying that keyboard for it's keycaps... Unless you're into the whole weeaboo thing...

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 17 January 2010, 17:34:19

Wait, did you win the -001 for €16?

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Sun, 17 January 2010, 17:34:42

Quote from: kishy;151597

Even I recognize that this (either one of the 5576s actually, particularly the big one) is an opportunity that may never happen again. The problem is of course a language barrier, above all else.

That and the region restrictions they like to do.

Quote from: ch_123;151596

Nope, completely different. But hey, you wouldnt be buying that keyboard for it's keycaps... Unless you're into the whole weeaboo thing...

Not for the keycaps, but for the ability to swap my own in.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 17 January 2010, 17:40:34

Quote from: webwit;151602

Not that one, that one will not go for 16 EUR..

They got some pretty rare keyboards there (http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d98580525). Oh wait.

I'm surprised you have not grabbed that NIB Model F that has been listed for months. But then again it is a little expensive :)

I was not interested in the one you got but depending on where that Space saver goes I may bid on it.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: Hak Foo on Sun, 17 January 2010, 17:41:06

Quote from: ch_123;151596

Nope, completely different. But hey, you wouldnt be buying that keyboard for it's keycaps... Unless you're into the whole weeaboo thing...

Honestly, I would prefer Japanese or Korean keycaps... at least over the Chinese alternative.

I'd love to see more front-of-keycap lettering-- a la the old Commodores and Atari XL series.  They could put hiragana or hangul there and nobody would say 'weeaboo'

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 17 January 2010, 17:46:24

Quote from: webwit;151605

Yeah the big one.
Who wants some red cherries (http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r61959631)?

Interesting but I don't really buy full size keyboards much any more. But still at that price I will keep an eye on it and see where it goes because I need a traveling companion for another NEO Counter Strike I picked up. After that first one sold for like $600 more of them have shown up which is good because the price has really droped because those that really wanted one grabbed one of the first few that showed up. After this flurry of selling I bet they don't show up again for a long time mostly because not very many where made (only a few hundred of them).

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Sun, 17 January 2010, 17:52:07

Quote from: rdjack21;151610

Interesting but I don't really buy full size keyboards much any more. But still at that price I will keep an eye on it and see where it goes because I need a traveling companion for another NEO Counter Strike I picked up. After that first one sold for like $600 more of them have shown up which is good because the price has really dropped because those that really wanted one grabbed one of the first few that showed up. After this flurry of selling I bet they don't show up again for a long time mostly because not very many where made (only a few hundred of them).

Any decent rares in that respect that are unique to the EU/US side of the pond?

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 17 January 2010, 19:03:39

Quote from: webwit;151611

i've seen it..scruffy box ;)

lol :)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 17 January 2010, 19:28:45

Quote from: sethstorm;151612

Any decent rares in that respect that are unique to the EU/US side of the pond?

All kinds of strange boards but you really have to research them to know what it is you are getting which can be hard. This little OKI/JBS Telemation I'm typing on now is very rare and quite unique. The biggest problem is figuring out what is worth getting and what not to wast your time on so I've mostly concentrated on Topre boards.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Mon, 18 January 2010, 01:34:43

Quote from: rdjack21;151642

All kinds of strange boards but you really have to research them to know what it is you are getting which can be hard. This little OKI/JBS Telemation I'm typing on now is very rare and quite unique. The biggest problem is figuring out what is worth getting and what not to wast your time on so I've mostly concentrated on Topre boards.

I was pointing that question towards how US and EU are skewed towards older keyboard stock in that regard(mostly due to region restrictions).

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 18 January 2010, 02:00:24

Quote from: sethstorm;151679

I was pointing that question towards how US and EU are skewed towards older keyboard stock in that regard(mostly due to region restrictions).

Ah so you mean new boards verses old crusty cool boards?  As far as new goes there are quite a few Cherry boards and some Alps but I have not really dug into them so really could give no pointers. Also as many here would tell you most of the new stuff is Costar produced like the Filco boards but not all.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Mon, 18 January 2010, 06:52:52

Quote from: rdjack21;151685

Ah so you mean new boards verses old crusty cool boards?  As far as new goes there are quite a few Cherry boards and some Alps but I have not really dug into them so really could give no pointers. Also as many here would tell you most of the new stuff is Costar produced like the Filco boards but not all.

In short, yes.

Longer explanation, it's that there seem to be less "good" boards coming to the US/EU directly unless you count Unicomp (read: w/o importer).

Unless this has been discussed before, I'll continue such discussion in another thread (Discussion here (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?p=151744#post151744)).

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 18 January 2010, 07:15:06

Japan and Korea seem to be the main market for fancy new keyboards. In the US/EU, it's comprised mainly of crusty old programmers (and wannabe crusty old programmers like myself) who miss their old IBMs.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Mon, 18 January 2010, 07:34:15

Quote from: ch_123;151742

Japan and Korea seem to be the main market for fancy new keyboards. In the US/EU, it's comprised mainly of crusty old programmers (and wannabe crusty old programmers like myself) who miss their old IBMs.

Well, count me as one of them, except you could add "...and NCRs"**

See my previous post's link so that this doesn't go too much further off topic.

** - NCR before they were acquired by AT&T GIS.  Not that there weren't good models (e.g. my West Germany-built G81-3000 rebrand), but the only notable stuff IMHO are their Dynakey terminals.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 18 January 2010, 07:55:02

Good grief, there are as many Realforce boards on yahoo japan as there are Logitechs in North America/Euro eBay sites.  Too bad I'm not a L-user...  I like straight, Model M style enter keys.
All 45G Realforce 91U (http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m68285456)
(http://img205.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/3/0/6/0/yaki29_teishoku-img600x450-1262424210gz4vha28382.jpg)

Realforce ND01N0 Counter-Strike NEO (http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r61934337#enlargeimg)
(http://img221.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/4/2/0/5/cyberdaioo-img600x450-1263676988cx1eza60392.jpg)

Realforce 108UH SA0100 (http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g87515269)
(http://img227.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/9/1/1/3/blue_on_blue_2011-img600x398-1263612096unlzd566321.jpg)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: sethstorm on Mon, 18 January 2010, 08:37:37

Quote from: didjamatic;151754

Good grief, there are as many Realforce boards on yahoo japan as there are Logitechs in North America/Euro eBay sites.  Too bad I'm not an L-user...  I like straight, Model M style enter keys.

I'm "Enter-Key agnostic" - I'll take the "abomination" double-row Enter keys as well as the "orthodox" flat ones.  

That, and some of the more exotic "double-row enter" keyboards** have more keys to remap as desired.

** - the ultra-rare 124 key Japanese terminal board recently seen on Yahoo Japan, for example.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 18 January 2010, 08:38:27

Rdjack21 in 3...2...

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 18 January 2010, 10:34:16

Quote from: didjamatic;151754

Good grief, there are as many Realforce boards on yahoo japan as there are Logitechs in North America/Euro eBay sites.  Too bad I'm not a L-user...  I like straight, Model M style enter keys.

Not really if you did not notice the vast majority of those boards are being offered by Japanese shops at new prices not end users selling used products. There are currently only a hand full of actual used ones from individuals and most of the time you don't see that many of them. I will admit that in the last few weeks though the NEO Counter strike which I have never seen on Yahoo Japan and if you search old auctions never before on Yahoo Japan has all of a sudden shown up. Why because the first one that showed up sold for almost $700 USD so those that had them pulled them out of the closet and decided to sell them and at that price I would be tempted as well. You really don't see older Topre boards up for auction very often. The ones you used for examples are some of the few that are actually used boards except for the Just one.

Quote from: didjamatic;151754

All 45G Realforce 91U (http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m68285456)

Nope this is a standard variable force 91U not a uniform 45g board if I remember correctly that is. Just is a Japanese shop that had there logo stuck on the board not really a OEM board because the Realforce name is still on it. This is just old stock that a shop is trying to get rid of and not really at much of a discount either.

Quote from: didjamatic;151754

Show Image

(http://img205.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/3/0/6/0/yaki29_teishoku-img600x450-1262424210gz4vha28382.jpg)

Realforce ND01N0 Counter-Strike NEO (http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r61934337#enlargeimg)

Show Image

(http://img221.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/4/2/0/5/cyberdaioo-img600x450-1263676988cx1eza60392.jpg)

Realforce 108UH SA0100 (http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g87515269)

Show Image

(http://img227.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/9/1/1/3/blue_on_blue_2011-img600x398-1263612096unlzd566321.jpg)

The NEO is from an individual the 108 is from a resaler (used computer shop).

Just like the US the vast majority of the boards on Yahoo Japan are junk rubber domes do a search using "キーボード" to find most of the keyboards. It will take you all day to go through the result from that one and most of them will be junk rubber domes.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 18 January 2010, 10:52:47

I don't speak Japanese (unfortunately) but the Google translation of that page says it is
"All key 45g, a uniform load" in the description.

Link (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m68285456)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 18 January 2010, 10:56:42

I'm searching Japanese I think I'm searching Japanese I really think so!

Filco 86 (http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k125164173#enlargeimg)
(http://img329.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/0/8/0/0/galaxy5150-img600x450-1263725697so9vrh59551.jpg)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 18 January 2010, 21:34:42

Quote from: didjamatic;151793

I don't speak Japanese (unfortunately) but the Google translation of that page says it is
"All key 45g, a uniform load" in the description.

Link (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m68285456)

Well they are correct like I said I think because Just had 4 of them made 2 uniform 45g and 2 variable force ones. This particular board is the NG22J0 which has lasered keys and uniform 45g force. Take a look here near the bottom (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Topre+Realforce+Reference+-+all+things+topre#Ten+Keyless+Keybaords) and you will find the part number. You will also note that only 300 of them where made.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 18 January 2010, 21:39:37

Quote from: ripster;151789

Somebody buy the keyboard in the OP and sell it to me.

PM me how much you are willing to pay for it and I might. But be warned it will cost considerably more than the winning bid price because you have to go through a broker to get it and shiping will be in the $50 range. But either way I'm keeping an eye on but I bet the real collectors will wait until the last hour to make there move. That First NEO that showed up went from about 7,500 yen to 60,000 yen in the last hour of bidding. That Japanese space saver is really rare so I bet it jumps as well.

EDIT: Looks like the collectors are showing up it is now sitting at 20,500 yen with 8 hours to go which means it will go higher. Sorry ripster this one will go higher than I can cover right now but PM if you are serious.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 18 January 2010, 21:44:52

RDJACK.. I crown you Topre King, destined to bring oneness with cup rubber to every foreign land.


I would love to try a uniform 45g Realforce (HHKB layout won't work well for my job).  I've been going back and forth between a variable 87u and an all 55g 87u since last Monday and I can't choose a clear winner.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 18 January 2010, 22:33:51

Quote from: didjamatic;151918

RDJACK.. I crown you Topre King, destined to bring oneness with cup rubber to every foreign land.


I would love to try a uniform 45g Realforce (HHKB layout won't work well for my job).  I've been going back and forth between a variable 87u and an all 55g 87u since last Monday and I can't choose a clear winner.

Try ripsters mod your key weighting (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6402&&highlight=87U+key+mod) but I have to admit it is for the brave only :) If that Just board was not priced so high I may have tried to get it but as it is I will not.

the "Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber" is very addictive once you achieve it. But the vast majority of those with a Topre may never get that feeling because they switch boards to much to really allow their fingers to truly learn the switch. But if you are one of the lucky you will never go back. For instance ripster doesn't believe there is such a thing because he has never achieved it but those here that have know what I mean. Well enough of that I could go on but I better stop I don't need ripster mad at me :)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 18 January 2010, 22:36:44

Quote from: ripster;151919

RD - Nah, that's OK.  Thanks for the offer though.  I think these guys are supposed to be a bit stiffer than the Model M - too stiff for me - more of a collectors item.

I thought they where supposed to be lighter? But like you my only interest in it would have been as a collectors item and it has gotten two expensive already for me just to get it so it could sit in the corner gathering dust. I like to use my collection :)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: lal on Tue, 19 January 2010, 07:19:27

Quote from: rdjack21;151924

the "Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber" is very addictive once you achieve it. But the vast majority of those with a Topre may never get that feeling because they switch boards to much to really allow their fingers to truly learn the switch. But if you are one of the lucky you will never go back.

man autosuggestion

People like that also buy oxygen free audio cables and swear to hear a difference.  Gladly we have Narrenfreiheit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrenfreiheit) around here :)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 07:36:09

It's funny how the loudest detractors of Topres are also the ones who have never tried them, and therefore don't really have much to stand on.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: lal on Tue, 19 January 2010, 07:56:31

Quote from: ch_123;151977

It's funny how the loudest detractors of Topres are also the ones who have never tried them, and therefore don't really have much to stand on.

I didn't say anything bad about Topre in that post (this time).  But it's funny how the biggest Topre fanboys sound like scientologists when telling people not immediately impressed by the Topre feel that they just need to take a longer way in order to achieve the higher states of "oneness with cup rubber".  I can't help but be reminded of cultists and audiophiles.

Scientologists will tell you too that you have to try it in order to really understand it.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 08:58:30

I really feel sorry for you lal. To think that you compare me to the evils that have been done by cultists the world over is really disturbing. I'm just a guy that really enjoys keyboards and that is it. I'm sorry that I happen to enjoy a keyboard you don't approve of but that is the way it is. I'm no audiophile but I do like to own high quality equipment when I can afford it.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: lal on Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:38:38

Crap.  I was expecting a little more flaming...

Quote from: rdjack21;152005

I really feel sorry for you lal. To think that you compare me to the evils that have been done by cultists the world over is really disturbing.

Well, I'm sorry to disturb you and I don't wanted to say you're as evil as scientology.  Not yet.  But sometimes Topre fans just sound a lot like "believers".

Quote

...I happen to enjoy a keyboard you don't approve of...

BTW, you're free to make fun of mechanical switch lovers and especially me, too :)

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:39:15

Quote from: webwit;152016

ええオハイオ州赤ん坊は僕のだもん！

:-)

Congrats!

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: lal on Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:40:50

Congrats, webwit.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:46:09

I figured webwit would snag it.  Either him or ripster.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 19 January 2010, 10:55:41

Quote from: ripster;152045

If I start hanging around Yahoo Japan and Ebay.de I'll be admitting I'm an addict.
 
$230 US - not bad given that numpad's rarity.

I figured as much.  I was leaning more towards witweb winning this one.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 11:54:40

Huzzah!

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 19 January 2010, 12:25:30

Here is some more info (http://park16.wakwak.com/~ex4/kb/tech_bucklingspring_e.htm) on these 'boards translated by Sandy.
 
 
 
I don't think this was posted before.  My apologies if it was.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 12:27:03

Lam made an excellent review of the A01. Just search 'IBM A01' in Geekhack's wonderful and unused search engine.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: lowpoly on Tue, 19 January 2010, 12:28:59

Just click on the link in my sig.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 19 January 2010, 13:18:13

The self-contained mechanisms are almost worth it alone.  It should make the 'board easy to clean and maintain.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 14:34:21

Congrats webwit I'm glad someone from here got it. BTW there is also a full size one listed as well right now.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 14:58:54

Quote from: lal;152024

BTW, you're free to make fun of mechanical switch lovers and especially me, too :)

Why would I do that? I have actually tried all the mechanical switch boards and even though I don't like all of them I would not give someone a hard time about choosing one because we all like different things. As long as the board is a quality board I have no real problems with it even if I don't like it. I will say why I don't like it but I will not go out of my way to aggravate those that do. And lets be honest even with mechanical boards you need to spend some time with the board before forming a reasoned opinion of the board. And on some especially the lighter boards (Cherry browns) you really need to spend some time on it to fully appreciate the switch. The same goes for Topre switches to really appreciate it you have spend some time using it and like the Cherry browns if you are switching between boards your fingers will not develop the required lighter touch to fully appreciate the switch.

But hey I know you enjoy going out of your way to aggravate and ridicule those of use that have decided that we prefer the Topre. So go right ahead because every time you do all you do is remind us of how ignorant and closed minded you really are. And until you actually use a Topre for enough time to come to a reasoned opinion we will just laugh about how stupid you sound in your rants. Why because even those that don't like Topre boards but have tried them will admit that the Topre boards are a nice high quality board and are rather nice if that is what you like. Most all of us that like the Topre will admit that it is not for everyone and I have advised some to not get one because they have sounded like the type that would not like it (Generally but not the rule those that like heavy switches don't really like the Topre but then again some do).

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:09:31

None of my business really... but I have a feeling you're taking this much more seriously than lal.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:13:38

It was more serious some time ago...

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Post by: lal on Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:42:12

Ah, that's better.  Fanboy logorrhea :)  Let's see...

Quote from: rdjack21;152108

[bla bla] And lets be honest even with mechanical boards you need to spend some time with the board before forming a reasoned opinion of the board.

That's why most prefer clicky and strongly tactile switches.  It's an immediate WOW effect.

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[it needs time to really appreciate Topre and brown MX]

I'm of the same opinion.  Radical changes need time to get used to.  Nevertheless it sounds funny when you talk about "achieving [the higher states of] oneness with cup rubber".

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But hey I know you enjoy going out of your way to aggravate and ridicule those of use that have decided that we prefer the Topre.

Yep.

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... how ignorant and closed minded you really are ... we will just laugh about how stupid you sound ...

Careful, or I'll come and wear out all your rubber domes!

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And until you actually use a Topre for enough time to come to a reasoned opinion...

I don't need to fall into the Topre trap and spend several hundreds of dollars to realize that the "tactility" is basically that of a hq rubber dome.  And I don't need to have used one to realize that charging five times as much as for a mechanical board for a mere rubber dome is just a shameless ripoff.

Your turn.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:43:51

Quote from: webwit;152107

So why didn't Unicomp steal the 5576 mini molds?

Because Lexmark made the C01 for IBM Japan. I think it was probably to do with Lexmark owning the right to make Trackpoint keyboards or something like that.

Have you seen the fold out stand on the C01?

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Post by: didjamatic on Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:51:20

Quote from: webwit;152016

ええオハイオ州赤ん坊は僕のだもん！

お祝いの言葉。時間は、キーボードの棚に新しいボックスです

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Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:57:08

Quote from: lal;152133

That's why most prefer clicky and strongly tactile switches.  It's an immediate WOW effect.

Actually, it seems to me like a lot of people start off on things like Buckling Springs/Alps etc and then move on to stuff like Cherry Browns and Topres because of the lower force requirements and decreased noise.

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Careful, or I'll come and wear out all your rubber domes!

No wai! Do they wear out like those old Dell ATs and Model Ms I've used on various occasions?

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: didjamatic on Tue, 19 January 2010, 16:41:45

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f167/atlantisrising73/popcorn.gif)

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Post by: rdjack21 on Tue, 19 January 2010, 17:00:52

Quote from: webwit;152153

I know what to do rdjack21, I won this challenge a while back, but it will make lal sad ;)

This is not a challenge it is a waste of time and why would I care if lal is a closed minded jerk at least where Topre are concerned if he hadn't contributed some decent information on BS boards I would ignore him well actually I do that any ways. Really the only time I wast my time responding to him is when he is bashing new users.

On another note I thought you were using a different broker for getting boards off Yahoo Japan? I noticed that you used Crescent to get the Space saver and num pad.

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Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 07 February 2010, 12:41:33

Any sign of it yet Webwit?

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 07 February 2010, 13:01:13

If he is anything like me he is still buying boards to ship with it :)

I've got another CS NEO, Filco 89J, Filco FKB91UJ and a couple of Sun to USB converters sitting in Japan waiting for a couple more boards before I actually ship them. I really want to get a 106U for the parts for a mod I have in mind and maybe a 91U and of course anything else that may show up. But I figure I will ship mine in a few weeks or so.

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Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 07 February 2010, 13:12:49

I had the opposite situation to you - I tossed out a Sparcstation 5 partially because I had no decent keyboard for it. I do have an original Mouse Systems Sun mouse, the kind that needed a special mousemat.

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 07 February 2010, 14:34:10

The only reason I have the Sun -> USB converters is for the Sun Short Type Topre keyboard I have. The darn things are hard to come by and when you do find them they are expensive. A few of them showed up on Yahoo Japan for a really good price so I grabed them that way I have a spare for the one I do have.

Man I would have hated to toss out a Sparcstation 5 those were decent machines.

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Post by: ricercar on Sun, 07 February 2010, 14:45:09

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tossed out a Sparcstation 5 partially because I had no decent keyboard

Shame. Used Sun keyboards are $3 here in silicon valley.

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Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 07 February 2010, 14:51:45

The other reason is that I don't particularly want it. There's then the counter argument in my head that it's a cool workstation, then the argument that I already have one (SGI Indy), then the argument that Solaris is a more usable system. Then there was the argument that I should clutter up my house with more oversized computer parts, and that won out.

Someday I'm going to regret it =P

Title: Yahoo Japan - 5576-003 + Numpad
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 07 February 2010, 20:53:58

Quote from: webwit;156956

Yeah I got a 001 and A01 with it. It's in customs, will be here in a couple of days.

LOL :) It's not nice to let boards travel alone :)