If you only want one topre, I highly suggest spacebar topre. Very nice. :thumb:I think I'm looking for an entire board :p
What's the difference between Realforce and Type Heaven?
If you already tried a Topre board and liked it, go buy. Otherwise, don't :thumb:The whole problem is that I haven't tried a Topre before. Nobody does tours in Canada. :pWhat's the difference between Realforce and Type Heaven?
Type Heaven uses ABS keycaps AFAIK and probably lower build quality on the externals maybe? compared to Realforce.
What's the difference between Realforce and Type Heaven?
If you already tried a Topre board and liked it, go buy. Otherwise, don't :thumb:The whole problem is that I haven't tried a Topre before. Nobody does tours in Canada. :pWhat's the difference between Realforce and Type Heaven?
Type Heaven uses ABS keycaps AFAIK and probably lower build quality on the externals maybe? compared to Realforce.
full size is generally more expensive then TKL simply because it has more keys/pcb parts/springs/domes/etc..I guess it's only on Model M that SSK is more expensive by severalfold.
I prefer the way the fullsize looks, probably just because I'm accustomed to full-size vintages and the bulky case styling is reminiscent of that to me. The TKL design is a little more clumsy, imo. Space-wise, I definitely understand it though.How do they compare with other rubber domes?
Topre's interesting. If I had jumped into Topre before Cherry MX (what I started with) and Alps (one true love), I probably would've absolutely adored it as the feel is similar to a rubber dome (and reminds me of the scissor switches I was used to typing on). There is something about the feel that is charming, but the clack of traditional mechanical switches is something I enjoy a bit too much.
full size is generally more expensive then TKL simply because it has more keys/pcb parts/springs/domes/etc..I guess it's only on Model M that SSK is more expensive by severalfold.
full size is generally more expensive then TKL simply because it has more keys/pcb parts/springs/domes/etc..I guess it's only on Model M that SSK is more expensive by severalfold.
No. I thought Topre SSK would be the same situation between 1401/1472.full size is generally more expensive then TKL simply because it has more keys/pcb parts/springs/domes/etc..I guess it's only on Model M that SSK is more expensive by severalfold.
oh you are talking about model M SSK, i thought realforce TKL. SSK is i think harder to get, this is why it is so expensive!
How do they compare with other rubber domes?
What's the difference between Realforce and Type Heaven?
Type Heaven is Topre's budget keyboard; cheaper caps (pad printed ABS vs. dyesub PBT on a Realforce), less weight/heft to the board, and just an overall less premium experience. In my opinion, and I think others will agree, it's worth the extra $60 or so to get the Realforce. Also, I personally prefer 55g which is only available on the Realforce.
I prefer the way the fullsize looks, probably just because I'm accustomed to full-size vintages and the bulky case styling is reminiscent of that to me. The TKL design is a little more clumsy, imo. Space-wise, I definitely understand it though.How do they compare with other rubber domes?
Topre's interesting. If I had jumped into Topre before Cherry MX (what I started with) and Alps (one true love), I probably would've absolutely adored it as the feel is similar to a rubber dome (and reminds me of the scissor switches I was used to typing on). There is something about the feel that is charming, but the clack of traditional mechanical switches is something I enjoy a bit too much.
Is it really different from Honeywell rubber domes?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a3FhRfl.jpg)
Slider over spring over membrane.Is it really different from Honeywell rubber domes?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a3FhRfl.jpg)
Does your Quiet Touch have rubber domes with springs? Sliders over dome right? Sliders over dome over membrane?
Topre is always a sound investment!But where should I get one to avoid being ripped off by eBay?
Topre is always a sound investment!But where should I get one to avoid being ripped off by eBay?
Slider over spring over membrane.Is it really different from Honeywell rubber domes?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a3FhRfl.jpg)
Does your Quiet Touch have rubber domes with springs? Sliders over dome right? Sliders over dome over membrane?
Get out of this thread and buy a Topre board already. ;) Preferably a 55g Realforce or an HHKB, depending on your layout preference.I also hear that the 55g version is highly praised, but I can't find a 55g Realforce in pearl/pebble, so I don't know where to begin. Elitekeyboards.com is apparently out of them, and eBay sellers are charging a ridiculous premium above that.
Get out of this thread and buy a Topre board already. ;) Preferably a 55g Realforce or an HHKB, depending on your layout preference.I also hear that the 55g version is highly praised, but I can't find a 55g Realforce in pearl/pebble, so I don't know where to begin. Elitekeyboards.com is apparently out of them, and eBay sellers are charging a ridiculous premium above that.
Get out of this thread and buy a Topre board already. ;) Preferably a 55g Realforce or an HHKB, depending on your layout preference.I also hear that the 55g version is highly praised, but I can't find a 55g Realforce in pearl/pebble, so I don't know where to begin. Elitekeyboards.com is apparently out of them, and eBay sellers are charging a ridiculous premium above that.
As stated in topic, should I invest in a Topre? I heard it's highly recommended, but not quite sure about it :p
Yes and buy a Leopold FC980C https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/wink.gif
When is the Leopold fc980 available?
Topre 45g ~ Topre 55g ~ IBM Model F > SKCM blue Alps ~ SKCM white Alps > IBM Model M > Matias Click > Matias Quiet> SKCM brown Alps > >> Gateron yellow >> Cherry mx red
Good luck!
@E3E: I probably shouldn't attempt to rank-order my switch preferences! The difference in preference among some of them is very slight, and the order frequently changes, depending upon the phase of the moon and the relative humidity. ;)
Sometimes I really relish typing on my brown Alps board. There's a lot to like about it, including my favorite form factor (60%) and layout (HHKB). The brown Alps switches are a lot of fun -- the tactility is amazing. However, with a small unyielding stainless steel plate, the board gets fatiguing after a while.
@y11971alex: My apologies for telling you what you already knew. I sometimes go overboard with providing a full context for my explanations. If you try Topre, let us know how you like it compared to other switches.
It is really difficult to compare switches per se. So much depends upon the particular keyboard in which they are installed and, particularly with Alps, the history of the switches including how much dirt and wear they might have accumulated. Indeed, today I have been comparing two Leading Edge DC-3014 keyboards. Both boards have SKCM blue Alps switches. The only differences are that one case has been painted and the keycaps are different, yet I find that the boards have noticeable differences in feel and sound. Doing a side by side comparison, I can choose a favorite. Yes, I like the blue Alps better than the blue Alps!
Elitekeyboards.com remains out of stock at February. It looks like I'll be going for a Type Heaven
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/172486403870
I wouldn't exactly call a Type Heaven an investment. But it is certainly a decent way to dip one's toes into the Topre waters.In case I don't like the Realforce, I can sell it for around 80% of its purchase value, right?
I wouldn't exactly call a Type Heaven an investment. But it is certainly a decent way to dip one's toes into the Topre waters.In case I don't like the Realforce, I can sell it for around 80% of its purchase value, right?
By the way, all of the 104U's on EK are listed as in stock.But I don't want to buy the variable weight ones :eek:
I wouldn't exactly call a Type Heaven an investment. But it is certainly a decent way to dip one's toes into the Topre waters.
Well, the keyboard hobby for me is auto-financing. Which means I do, as a matter of fact, by some keyboards as investments.I wouldn't exactly call a Type Heaven an investment. But it is certainly a decent way to dip one's toes into the Topre waters.
Even for some of us keyboard fans 120 is a decent chunk of change
Well, the keyboard hobby for me is auto-financing. Which means I do, as a matter of fact, by some keyboards as investments.I wouldn't exactly call a Type Heaven an investment. But it is certainly a decent way to dip one's toes into the Topre waters.
Even for some of us keyboard fans 120 is a decent chunk of change
Well, the keyboard hobby for me is auto-financing. Which means I do, as a matter of fact, by some keyboards as investments.I wouldn't exactly call a Type Heaven an investment. But it is certainly a decent way to dip one's toes into the Topre waters.
Even for some of us keyboard fans 120 is a decent chunk of change
By the way, all of the 104U's on EK are listed as in stock.But I don't want to buy the variable weight ones :eek:
By the way, all of the 104U's on EK are listed as in stock.But I don't want to buy the variable weight ones :eek:
You can always buy one from Taobao with the help of a purchasing agent such as taobaofocus.com (http://taobaofocus.com).
By the way, all of the 104U's on EK are listed as in stock.But I don't want to buy the variable weight ones :eek:
You can always buy one from Taobao with the help of a purchasing agent such as taobaofocus.com (http://taobaofocus.com).
By the way, all of the 104U's on EK are listed as in stock.But I don't want to buy the variable weight ones :eek:
You can always buy one from Taobao with the help of a purchasing agent such as taobaofocus.com (http://taobaofocus.com).
I just looked into this... So you pay the first price and then do you pay something again when it is delivered to the Proxy?
I think that a lot of people who buy them feel complied to love them after shelling out 200-300 dollar for them.
as someone who just bought a leopold fc890c from a shop in korea, I would say that you should do everything in your power to try it out first. Topre really is a unique keyboard feeling. My daily driver is a stiff alps keyboard, so usually I lean towards heavy, stiff and clicky switches that make a lot of noise when you press them. However I went into the store without any intention of buying anything and the 45 g topre switches completely won me over. They feel absolutely amazing to type on, fantastic sound, amazing feel. I would describe them like this: Imagine a rubber dome keyboard if it felt good to type on.This doesn't seem strange to me at all. In my own case, my favorite switches before I started using Topre on a regular basis were IBM membrane buckling spring (Model M) and IBM capacitive buckling spring (Model F). After trying Topre, I added Topre 45g and 55g to my favorites list. More recently, I have added clicky Alps (blue, white, and clicky hybrids) to the list. The common thread among these seemingly disparate switch types appears to be a similar sort of tactility.
However I can absolutely imagine that someone might hate topres, and I think that a lot of people who buy them feel complied to love them after shelling out 200-300 dollar for them. I would never blindly buy a topre board, and I would never have bought them if I didn't have a chance to try them out first. I did not expect to like them at all, since they are pretty much the opposite of the usual switches I prefer, but I made a 180 on them.