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Title: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: Tangtawan on Sat, 29 October 2016, 07:10:42
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

(http://clickykeyboard.com/2015/jan03/018.jpg)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 29 October 2016, 07:46:04
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: Tangtawan on Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:22:42
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).

Thanks for the answer, how about the price? Is it reasonable or too expensive, considering how rare this thing is?
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: axtran on Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:25:51
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.


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Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: Tangtawan on Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:34:11
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

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Thanks for the answer, correct me if im wrong.. but doesnt it come with removable PS/2 cable like any other model M(s)?

 Also i have 3 other model M(s) and havent bolt modded any of them.. still works just fine.



Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:41:23
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).

Thanks for the answer, how about the price? Is it reasonable or too expensive, considering how rare this thing is?

As I said, yes on all points.  The price is very good, you would have no problem selling it for more later.  $150 without blinking and could go much higher.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 29 October 2016, 08:45:27
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: Crapbag on Sat, 29 October 2016, 10:13:18
Hi, all.

I have found a deal on the following IBM Model M (pics borrowed from clickykeyboard.com)

The price is around 115 usd. However, its missing few keycaps (see the attachment below). Is this a reasonable price considering how rare this keyboard is?

And if i get it, will spare keycaps from clickykeyboards.com ($1-$2 each) match the one on this industrial model m?

Thanks for the help.

Yes on all points.

And you may be able to find replacement caps cheaper on ebay (or via someone here who may be selling).

Thanks for the answer, how about the price? Is it reasonable or too expensive, considering how rare this thing is?

Try here:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 29 October 2016, 10:33:05
Price is fine, but make sure the model number matches.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: axtran on Mon, 31 October 2016, 06:31:58
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.


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Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: 1391406 on Mon, 31 October 2016, 09:41:33
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.

A bolt mod is all well and good but unless there's actually an issue, Model M's don't have to or need to be bolt modded in order to function normally. I mean, you can perform one as a preventative measure, but I currently own several Model M's, never bolt modded any of them and they all work just fine.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: chyros on Mon, 31 October 2016, 10:51:40
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.


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I disagree. In fact I'd prefer to keep my keyboards original if I could. I did bolt-mod one from 1987 because a rather alarming amount of rivets had snapped on that one, and it was very dirty, but it was most definitely worth saving.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 31 October 2016, 11:12:51
Reasonable if you like Model M's. Still need a SDL converter as well as bolt-modding.

Not correct.  I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.

We're in a forum for mostly bespoke keyboards. The Model M is best when bolt-modded. Even new, the plastic rivets aren't as nice.


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I disagree. In fact I'd prefer to keep my keyboards original if I could. I did bolt-mod one from 1987 because a rather alarming amount of rivets had snapped on that one, and it was very dirty, but it was most definitely worth saving.

Totally agree.  If you can keep it original, and it's in good condition, I don't see a reason to mod it.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 31 October 2016, 12:56:36

I have plenty of M's that have never been bolt modded and work just fine.


The Model M is best when bolt-modded.


I'd prefer to keep my keyboards original if I could.


If you can keep it original, and it's in good condition, I don't see a reason to mod it.


Since I have now done about 2 dozen bolt-mods, the process does not cause me to have a panic attack. In fact, I look at a bolt-mod as more likely than not, since I usually buy cheap and tinker. It also allows me to have the peace of mind knowing that every single part is immaculately clean, the membranes have been inspected and tested, and that there are no "gotchas" lurking in there.

A bolt-modded board  *IS*  better because it is much more secure, it can be "tuned" to suit your taste, and if you spill a sticky corrosive liquid into it then it is much easier to get apart and put back together because all the hard work has been done.

All that said, the process is a tedious and fussy  *PAIN-in-the-ASS*  that is too frustrating and time-consuming to do without valid cause.
Title: Re: How rare and whats the market value of this IBM Industrial Model M ?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 05 June 2017, 05:29:33
Did OP buy this keyboard?  Probably, if the profile pic is anything to go by.

I'd also argue against bolt modding a keyboard unless it is required.

I have a Model M that might have lost one rivet - it is an absolute joy to type on and I have no intention of touching it apart from the occasional gentle clean.

OTOH I have an M122 that I wanted to ANSI mod, and a bolt mod is part and parcel of that.  Still underway, by the way, other priorities have intervened, but I'm in the middle of the putting-back-together stage.