I'd like a 1800-like bottom row, with vim-like arrows. Moving the right shift will make our life miserable.
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Hell yeah!i still prefer balanced for blocked left and right this make look like hhkb right ? :))
Would prefer a closer to standard, unsymmetrical but more uniform,
(1.25 blocked) -1.25 -1.25 -6.25 -1.25 -1 -1 -1
bottom row option tbh.
I'm good either way tho, really...
wow this is interesting, I just knew if there is keyboard layout like this.
Awesome, awesome, awesome.
I don't need dedicated arrows on a 60% but I gotta say this is probably the best possible solution.
Hell yeah!i still prefer balanced for blocked left and right this make look like hhkb right ? :))
Would prefer a closer to standard, unsymmetrical but more uniform,
(1.25 blocked) -1.25 -1.25 -6.25 -1.25 -1 -1 -1
bottom row option tbh.
I'm good either way tho, really...
I'd like a 1800-like bottom row, with vim-like arrows. Moving the right shift will make our life miserable.
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if we do like this we got problem with bottom hole screw for universal 60% case
Hell yeah!i still prefer balanced for blocked left and right this make look like hhkb right ? :))
Would prefer a closer to standard, unsymmetrical but more uniform,
(1.25 blocked) -1.25 -1.25 -6.25 -1.25 -1 -1 -1
bottom row option tbh.
I'm good either way tho, really...
The blocked/white areas on the hhkb actually aren't symmetrical tho. :)
In Addition this layout would give you more blocker space and therefore be closer to hhkb looks imho.
Just my opinion tbh but this has been debated in multiple threads and there is always people that prefer the symmetrical approach vs people who prefer the more standard layout with a more uniform bottom row.
Edit:
Does the pcb have enough room left to support layout A with 1.25 left ctrl and alt?
That's pretty much the only change required to my ideal layout.
I'd like a 1800-like bottom row, with vim-like arrows. Moving the right shift will make our life miserable.
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if we do like this we got problem with bottom hole screw for universal 60% case
Ouch :-) that's a shame.
Maybe losing one screw on a total of six isn't so important? I'd try to remove one screw from my poker, if it wasn't at home...
Accepting to lose one screw, could open the way to a number of new and original layouts, and this could expand the interest in this pcb.
Will this be iso compatible?
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Love the concepts here. I have the following plate on the way via @swillkb's plate designer tool:
(Attachment Link)
If you wish, feel free to incorporate this into your designs.
type c interesting than others :cool:
i need type C too :p
Yes! I need type E PCB!
Love the concepts here. I have the following plate on the way via @swillkb's plate designer tool:
(Attachment Link)
If you wish, feel free to incorporate this into your designs.
Very cool! I like Type B most as a short-term thing, but I'd be interested in something like Type E with a little different bottom row. The spacebar is too far to the right in my opinion, I'd rather have it centered.Love the concepts here. I have the following plate on the way via @swillkb's plate designer tool:
(Attachment Link)
If you wish, feel free to incorporate this into your designs.
This is a good start, but what I have in mind is something more like this:
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Symmetrical gaps towards the sides and allows for 5-7 thumbkeys.
Very cool! I like Type B most as a short-term thing, but I'd be interested in something like Type E with a little different bottom row. The spacebar is too far to the right in my opinion, I'd rather have it centered.Love the concepts here. I have the following plate on the way via @swillkb's plate designer tool:
(Attachment Link)
If you wish, feel free to incorporate this into your designs.
This is a good start, but what I have in mind is something more like this:
(Attachment Link)
Symmetrical gaps towards the sides and allows for 5-7 thumbkeys.
thats a good layout but getting 3u stab and wire its really hard and of course 3u caps is a problem too xD
I do use arrows in IJKL positions since I discovered the Space-FN concept, it is so natural.
I do use arrows in IJKL positions since I discovered the Space-FN concept, it is so natural.
Space-FN is fine except when fast typing :(
I would suggest at looking at the newest revision of the GH60 SATAN as a reference. It has QMK/TMK support + it has arrows on it. People refer to it as the "XD60" right now for the arrow version. Just a reference but I hope you figure this project out :). Looks exciting! The "HHKB" versions look interesting and I'd love to see an offer for a custom case.
In any case, good luck!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/v64eqwsrk8jx.jpg)
I would definitely be interested in this! You should do something like the XD60 where many many odd layouts are supported.
I do use arrows in IJKL positions since I discovered the Space-FN concept, it is so natural.
I would suggest at looking at the newest revision of the GH60 SATAN as a reference. It has QMK/TMK support + it has arrows on it. People refer to it as the "XD60" right now for the arrow version. Just a reference but I hope you figure this project out :). Looks exciting! The "HHKB" versions look interesting and I'd love to see an offer for a custom case.
In any case, good luck!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/v64eqwsrk8jx.jpg)
I do use arrows in IJKL positions since I discovered the Space-FN concept, it is so natural.
Space-FN is fine except when fast typing :(
I am using Fn-Space but sometimes I mixed up Alt and Fn :-[ , I guess Space-Fn is betterI would suggest at looking at the newest revision of the GH60 SATAN as a reference. It has QMK/TMK support + it has arrows on it. People refer to it as the "XD60" right now for the arrow version. Just a reference but I hope you figure this project out :). Looks exciting! The "HHKB" versions look interesting and I'd love to see an offer for a custom case.
In any case, good luck!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/v64eqwsrk8jx.jpg)
eh... no "/ ?" key? :confused:
EDIT: lets wait for Banana Split :p
I would definitely be interested in this! You should do something like the XD60 where many many odd layouts are supported.I do use arrows in IJKL positions since I discovered the Space-FN concept, it is so natural.I would suggest at looking at the newest revision of the GH60 SATAN as a reference. It has QMK/TMK support + it has arrows on it. People refer to it as the "XD60" right now for the arrow version. Just a reference but I hope you figure this project out :). Looks exciting! The "HHKB" versions look interesting and I'd love to see an offer for a custom case.
In any case, good luck!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/v64eqwsrk8jx.jpg)I do use arrows in IJKL positions since I discovered the Space-FN concept, it is so natural.
Space-FN is fine except when fast typing :(
I am using Fn-Space but sometimes I mixed up Alt and Fn :-[ , I guess Space-Fn is betterI would suggest at looking at the newest revision of the GH60 SATAN as a reference. It has QMK/TMK support + it has arrows on it. People refer to it as the "XD60" right now for the arrow version. Just a reference but I hope you figure this project out :). Looks exciting! The "HHKB" versions look interesting and I'd love to see an offer for a custom case.
In any case, good luck!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/v64eqwsrk8jx.jpg)
eh... no "/ ?" key? :confused:
EDIT: lets wait for Banana Split :p
imo i dont like xd60 style because no "/ ?" key we can remap it to another position but i dont like unstandard alpha so if this project still happen i will keep hhkb style maybe just more bottom row combination.
and jchan if u want make custom case for this project it's will be great ;D
I would suggest at looking at the newest revision of the GH60 SATAN as a reference. It has QMK/TMK support + it has arrows on it. People refer to it as the "XD60" right now for the arrow version. Just a reference but I hope you figure this project out :). Looks exciting! The "HHKB" versions look interesting and I'd love to see an offer for a custom case.
In any case, good luck!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/v64eqwsrk8jx.jpg)
No ISO compatibility? It's a deal breaker for me.
No ISO compatibility? It's a deal breaker for me.
It's compatible... here's the final layout compability for this pcb but some layout lose 1 bottom screw for 60% case
and idk i will keep doing this project or not :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5sqZ4Ie.jpg)
No ISO compatibility? It's a deal breaker for me.
It's compatible... here's the final layout compability for this pcb but some layout lose 1 bottom screw for 60% case
and idk i will keep doing this project or not :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5sqZ4Ie.jpg)
I know that in your mind this suggestion probably kills the purpose of this gb, but is this compatible with a standard r_shift?
What is the pin diameter for switch pin holes and LED pin holes?
Will it be compatible to hotswappable mods?
No soldering is required for 1.5mm switch pin holes, but I forgot the size for compatible LED pin holes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5a399o/guide_how_to_make_your_pcb_hotswappable/
No ISO compatibility? It's a deal breaker for me.
It's compatible... here's the final layout compability for this pcb but some layout lose 1 bottom screw for 60% case
and idk i will keep doing this project or not :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5sqZ4Ie.jpg)
+1No ISO compatibility? It's a deal breaker for me.
It's compatible... here's the final layout compability for this pcb but some layout lose 1 bottom screw for 60% case
and idk i will keep doing this project or not :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5sqZ4Ie.jpg)
Wow! this could be the most flexible 60 layout ever.
Some more questions:
1. Will the PCB be supporting only MX switches? By any chance it can be made to support also Alps switches?
2. Will there be any (Korean?) keyboard makers interested in creating blocked-corner cases that support this awesome layout?
Thanks.
No ISO compatibility? It's a deal breaker for me.
It's compatible... here's the final layout compability for this pcb but some layout lose 1 bottom screw for 60% case
and idk i will keep doing this project or not :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5sqZ4Ie.jpg)
Wow! this could be the most flexible 60 layout ever.
Already talk to leeku here's the final layout for this pcbShow Image(http://imgur.com/v3pEXel.jpg)
Maybe some or all bottom combination lose 1 screw for universal case
price for pcb $55 (presoldered)
plate alu/steel $30 and $35 or $40 for brass
Start to make GB thread soon ;D
Already talk to leeku here's the final layout for this pcbShow Image(http://imgur.com/v3pEXel.jpg)
Maybe some or all bottom combination lose 1 screw for universal case
price for pcb $55 (presoldered)
plate alu/steel $30 and $35 or $40 for brass
Start to make GB thread soon ;D
Aww damn, my favorite layout was the 7u space bar one.
Based on the render a bottom row with
1.5-1.5-6.25-1.25-arrows is also feasible, right?
What controller chip this PCB will get?
If only this had Alps support.. may still get it though :-X
What controller chip this PCB will get?
not sure about the name but it's use l3 firmware like other leeku pcb, i'll ask leeku for specific controller nameIf only this had Alps support.. may still get it though :-X
with this many bottom combination? it's seems really hard but i will ask leeku after get final layout from him and if possible we will go with mx/alps pcb to get more interest.
They layout is unique yet doesn't require any special keys. Good job. :thumb:
I am actually more of an Alps person.
If this PCB has Alps support? Then its like a god 60% PCB for me. I really don't need another 60% PCB.
Definitely gonna stash up on an few of these pcbs.
There's already options for people who want an alps 60.
Dis bout da arrowed hhkb brokemons <3
Hmmmm... i look again to old concept with 8 combination bottom row and its seem feasible to this new layout 6 bottom combination and its just miss stabilizer hole for 7u so i talk again to leeku to make sure and he will check it again this weekend.I see you have the split spacebar option.
Hopefully we can still use this 8 bottom combinationShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5sqZ4Ie.jpg)
GB thread waiting for final update from leeku :cheers:
I see you have the split spacebar option.
Have you thought of replacing it with the options from m65 or exent?
Or even better make sure of the 2u from the numpad.
Like 2u 1.5u 2.75u
What controller chip this PCB will get?
What controller chip this PCB will get?
controller use Atmega 32 a
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News update from leeku
- split spacebar combination change to 1-1-1-2.25-1.25-2.75-1.25-arrows
- this pcb cant be both mx/alps because to many bottom row combination
What controller chip this PCB will get?
controller use Atmega 32 a
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News update from leeku
- split spacebar combination change to 1-1-1-2.25-1.25-2.75-1.25-arrows
- this pcb cant be both mx/alps because to many bottom row combination
It will be TMK and QMK compatible?
Is pricing information available yet? Please dismiss the question if it has been posted already, I did not read the thread entirely.
Is pricing information available yet? Please dismiss the question if it has been posted already, I did not read the thread entirely.
yes its around $55-$60, but i still wait confirmation from leeku about this 7 bottom combination ;)
Is pricing information available yet? Please dismiss the question if it has been posted already, I did not read the thread entirely.
yes its around $55-$60, but i still wait confirmation from leeku about this 7 bottom combination ;)
The seven units space bar will NOT be supported?
Current Poll results shows interest in the layouts featuring 6.25 and 3 units space bars; however, I wonder if 3u space bars are available some where.
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Current Poll results shows interest in the layouts featuring 6.25 and 3 units space bars; however, I wonder if 3u space bars are available some where.
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Look for "minila pbt" on aliexpress ;)
Current Poll results shows interest in the layouts featuring 6.25 and 3 units space bars; however, I wonder if 3u space bars are available some where.
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Look for "minila pbt" on aliexpress ;)
yes you can use minila keycap, but i see keycaps groupbuy support minila layout now like dsa wolf mark
should we changed 3u spacebar with 2.75u?
There is no 3u GMK space bar available, as far as I know. There is only support for 2.25 and 2.75 unit space bars at GMK. Most sets offer support for the classic 6, 6.25 and 7 u space bars, of course.
There is no 3u GMK space bar available, as far as I know. There is only support for 2.25 and 2.75 unit space bars at GMK. Most sets offer support for the classic 6, 6.25 and 7 u space bars, of course.
That's good news.
But I can't even think of a single GMK set that has 2.25u and/or 2.75u space bar even provided as an option (not talking about the R4 profile).
There is no 3u GMK space bar available, as far as I know. There is only support for 2.25 and 2.75 unit space bars at GMK. Most sets offer support for the classic 6, 6.25 and 7 u space bars, of course.
That's good news.
But I can't even think of a single GMK set that has 2.25u and/or 2.75u space bar even provided as an option (not talking about the R4 profile).
The HADapter II includes a space bars set with 6.25, 6, 2.75 and 2.25 space bars. The Yuri set also. Both are upcoming sets that will offer support in these sizes.
There is no 3u GMK space bar available, as far as I know. There is only support for 2.25 and 2.75 unit space bars at GMK. Most sets offer support for the classic 6, 6.25 and 7 u space bars, of course.
Still I have no idea why this pcb doesn't have a full length bottom row, and chooses instead a shorter hhkb bottom row :)) aesthetics I suppose.
Still I have no idea why this pcb doesn't have a full length bottom row, and chooses instead a shorter hhkb bottom row :)) aesthetics I suppose.
Still I have no idea why this pcb doesn't have a full length bottom row, and chooses instead a shorter hhkb bottom row :)) aesthetics I suppose.
1. i choose standard arrow key and not moving any alpha key
2. it can be done if we use 1u shift but it's hard to find
3. yes it's for aesthetics :p
(Attachment Link) suStill I have no idea why this pcb doesn't have a full length bottom row, and chooses instead a shorter hhkb bottom row :)) aesthetics I suppose.
1. i choose standard arrow key and not moving any alpha key
2. it can be done if we use 1u shift but it's hard to find
3. yes it's for aesthetics :p
So why not this bottom row?
Rip the 7u love life ;_;
Rip the 7u love life ;_;
hmmm i think leeku use wrong layout, this old 1 with both 2.75u spacebar and he will double check it just hope it will cover this 8 option
Rip the 7u love life ;_;
hmmm i think leeku use wrong layout, this old 1 with both 2.75u spacebar and he will double check it just hope it will cover this 8 option
Crossing fingers for the 7u layout! Are you also going to produce a case? ;o
Rip the 7u love life ;_;
hmmm i think leeku use wrong layout, this old 1 with both 2.75u spacebar and he will double check it just hope it will cover this 8 option
Crossing fingers for the 7u layout! Are you also going to produce a case? ;o
for now it's just pcb and plate, i still wondering how design and material this case would be :))
Guys this is 6 option what i got from leekuShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/4134E16.jpg)
but consider to result poll i ask leeku if he could change
1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 3u spacebar - 1.25 - 1.25 -arrow cluster
with
1.5 - 1.5 - 6.25u spacebar - 1.25 - arrow cluster
but so far this 6 option from leeku i think it's fair enough to covered in 1 PCB ;)
If we can make this fit most standard 60% cases, this would be tits!
Lookin good,
glad the 6u version made the list! =)
1.5 1.5 6.25 1.25 arrows would be an awesome adition tho, since it seems to be one of the most popular choices.
Is it possible to do a split spacebar layout with this PCB but with no key in between the two spacebars? (instead of 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75, have e.g 3.25 - 3 or 3 - 3.25)
Wow! Great job.for 6u spacebar i will make it center and off stem option
Edit: Does the 6u bottom row feature the classic Cherry off centered switch position? If not it will not take any six units GMK space bar.
Wow! Great job.for 6u spacebar i will make it center and off stem option
Edit: Does the 6u bottom row feature the classic Cherry off centered switch position? If not it will not take any six units GMK space bar.
Wow! Great job.for 6u spacebar i will make it center and off stem option
Edit: Does the 6u bottom row feature the classic Cherry off centered switch position? If not it will not take any six units GMK space bar.
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i'm already talk with leeku about change 1 layout 1.25-1-1-1.25-3-1-1-1-arrow with 1.25-1-1-1.25-3-1.5-1.5-arrow to make it better with bottom hole screw for 60% universal case
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Would this layout worth trying? Not sure if I should go the ISO route, this time. I may try it with Ergo Clears.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gxB2enD.png)
Is there an option for PCB mount(without a plate)?
Thanks.
Is there an option for PCB mount(without a plate)?
Thanks.
Already got a spare case for it. Very excited.
Sooo stoked! It's happening Ö_Ö
i was looking for a 60% with arrow keys the other day. this is a good option since i was looking for a kit.
is this mac os compatible?
---UPDATE 3---
GB THREAD :
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87511.0
---UPDATE 2---
Don't forget to vote pcb color and plate option :p
https://goo.gl/forms/VWoRxca2NuBCtyAB2
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So guys after talk to leeku here's the final layout for this pcb and it will be support universal 60% case but some layout lose 1 bottom screwShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/x7CnBwz.jpg)
PCB will be designed by leeku
-Fully programmable
-Underglow Led
-controller use Atmega 32a
-Use L3 firmware like other leeku PCB
Price for PCB $55 (presoldered)
Plate $30 for alu/ss and $35 or $40 for brass
--- UPDATE 1---
after i contacted leeku to check if he can do 8 bottom combination r5 option, he said still working on it and not be sure until he arrange it... so to make plan B if he can't put 8 option R5 in this PCB i'm taking poll to see which bottom option you interest for this PCB. It will help me to see which option with most interest for this pcb, so that option with most interest will be put in plan B. And for people who want make it mx/alps PCB sure it will help with less option to make mx/alps PCB.
So please vote which option you're interest :)
Thanks!
link poll : https://goo.gl/forms/NmB30XCIWQNjRDWY2