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Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 23 January 2010, 14:24:03
I was just thinking, if they went to the effort of producing green keyboards for their Industrial PCs, did they bother doing the same for their mice? Bare in mind that IBM didn't make their own mice, so that might have made it less likely.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 23 January 2010, 14:38:08
I've seen photos of PS/2 ones, and ones with CD drives. Don't remember seeing a mouse with them though.

On the flipside, my Dad's office used to be up in a factory of a large multinational company, and the machines on the floor there used to run DOS up as late as the Windows XP days. I'm sure the story was the same for other places.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 28 January 2010, 19:32:06
MS-DOS still powers many more machines than the average person would think. Next time you head on down to the super market, take a look at the computers they use. I've spotted some 122-key Model M's there, as well as one in the farm equipment store in my town. I have also seen many check-out computers running MS-DOS at the super market. At the public library, there's a whole bunch of Model M's. And on most airlines, the computers  rely on Windows 3.1.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ricercar on Fri, 29 January 2010, 01:35:41
Quote from: microsoft windows;154468
on most airlines, the computers  rely on Windows 3.1.


No wonder there are so many ticketing SNAFUs.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 29 January 2010, 18:16:33
Windows 3.1 is as reliable as any other good operating system today. It's just that it's old.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Fri, 29 January 2010, 18:20:21
Windows 3.1 isn't an operating system.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 29 January 2010, 18:29:49
Quote from: microsoft windows;154677
Windows 3.1 is as reliable as any other good operating system today. It's just that it's old.

So you can use Windows 3.11 as a web server and keep the machine up and running for 10 years straight without any crashes or restarts?
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 30 January 2010, 01:55:57
Quote from: microsoft windows;154677
Windows 3.1 is as reliable as any other good operating system today. It's just that it's old.


Windows 1-3 aren't operating systems any more than Desqview, dosshell, and their ilk. They don't provide core services of an OS; they add services to MS-DOS.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 30 January 2010, 08:07:09
Windows 3.1 is a GUI for DOS and when I referenced it, I figured you all knew that already.

If you put Windows 3.1 in an environment which it was designed for, it will perform perfectly well. But it wasn't designed with high-speed Internet and modern computers in mind. But, at the library, it'll do just fine at counting which books are there and which are not; it'll have no trouble on a computer at a supermarket check-out; nor will it have any difficulty playing Railroad Tycoon. But that's about it.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Sat, 30 January 2010, 10:24:43
Quote from: microsoft windows;154801
Windows 3.1 is a GUI for DOS and when I referenced it, I figured you all knew that already.

If you put Windows 3.1 in an environment which it was designed for, it will perform perfectly well. But it wasn't designed with high-speed Internet and modern computers in mind. But, at the library, it'll do just fine at counting which books are there and which are not; it'll have no trouble on a computer at a supermarket check-out; nor will it have any difficulty playing Railroad Tycoon. But that's about it.


Valid point for sure - it'll do the job if the needs are basic.

Back to Industrial mice. I think it's safe to say they existed, but not how has been proposed in this thread:

(http://www.clickykeyboard.com/2006/06h4173/06h4173-005.jpg)

Presumably there were older incarnations, coinciding with the original M13 being released?
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 30 January 2010, 13:43:28
The only Industrial M13's I ever seen were made in the late '90's by Unicomp.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: sandy55 on Mon, 15 February 2010, 09:16:34
Olive grey IBM mouse?

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=7877&stc=1&d=1266246478)
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ironcoder on Mon, 15 February 2010, 09:39:20
I think we have a winner.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 15 February 2010, 11:28:21
Moar info!
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Mon, 15 February 2010, 11:41:23
It is now my goal to obtain one for $5.

And watch, I will. I have local hookups for this stuff.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Mon, 15 February 2010, 11:55:20
Quote from: ripster;158442
Nice logo.


...haven't seen that style before?

I've got two mice in the same plastic shell, just with different colour plastic. Unfortunately, the only thing the logo is good for is accumulating dirt.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Mon, 15 February 2010, 12:02:23
Uh oh, looks like I need to get out more.

Failed on account of not seeing the presence of a test to begin with.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Mon, 15 February 2010, 12:48:02
Quote from: ripster;158455
Wow.  I even posted it in Size 5 font.


I realize this now.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 15 February 2010, 17:55:51
18/20 ripster...  Not familiar with Maria Callas and I've never seen Ansel Adams before... I wasted so much time trying to spell "John Huston" "Dalai Lama" and "Amelia Earhart".  I tried Ali twice and just typed "Cassius Clay" and it accepted it... pretty cool I thought.  Nice test, now I have to read up on Maria Callas... I kept trying different spellings for "Sophia Loren".
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 15 February 2010, 18:07:10
15/20.  I have heard of all of them, but I did not recognize some of their pictures (Bob Dylan and Ted Turner were good examples).  I have seen both of them, but those pics are from time periods where I don't recognize them.  Good quiz, though.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Mon, 15 February 2010, 19:44:46
Lol, I didn't and won't post a score. A lot of these are people I really should know and didn't.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 16 February 2010, 06:58:44
Quote from: kishy;158514
A lot of these are people I really should know and didn't.

That's the problem with this quiz.  It doesn't test you on if you know who these people are from a historical context and why they're important.  It tests you on if you would recognize them in the street.  Perhaps that's valuable in a certain respect, but IMO, it's more valuable to know why they're important than know what they look like.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: kishy on Tue, 16 February 2010, 07:25:41
Quote from: itlnstln;158569
That's the problem with this quiz.  It doesn't test you on if you know who these people are from a historical context and why they're important.  It tests you on if you would recognize them in the street.  Perhaps that's valuable in a certain respect, but IMO, it's more valuable to know why they're important than know what they look like.


Hmm...true.

Not feeling as bad now. At least a few of them, I coulda told you what they'd done to be historically significant if you said their names.
Title: Were there such things as IBM Industrial Mice?
Post by: ricercar on Tue, 16 February 2010, 11:52:35
Missed Callas, Mandela, and Sinatara. I'm uncultured swine.