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Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:37:14
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:43:29
 I thought this was your neighborhood. :eek:

Glad you are ok.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:50:41
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:56:32
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:57:16
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:42:06
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: romevi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:50:25
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:42:06
I'm guessing one of this guy's Cyber Monday deals sold out,  And he went maximum Bonkers.

Bad taste.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:57:39
Quote from: romevi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:50:25
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:42:06
I'm guessing one of this guy's Cyber Monday deals sold out,  And he went maximum Bonkers.

Bad taste.


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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:34:31
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:57:39
Quote from: romevi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:50:25
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:42:06
I'm guessing one of this guy's Cyber Monday deals sold out,  And he went maximum Bonkers.

Bad taste.

r u a more a black friday guy?

This isn't really the time to make jokes man.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:37:23
Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:34:31
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:57:39
Quote from: romevi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:50:25
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:42:06
I'm guessing one of this guy's Cyber Monday deals sold out,  And he went maximum Bonkers.

Bad taste.

r u a more a black friday guy?

This isn't really the time to make jokes man.

sigh............. k...  editing previous posts.

But /reiterate..

it's disingenuous to pretend like you care.. 

Like how when people post about how bad they feel,   /inconceivable    when 150,000 people die every day..
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: romevi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:59:41
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:37:23
Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:34:31
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:57:39
Quote from: romevi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:50:25
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:42:06
I'm guessing one of this guy's Cyber Monday deals sold out,  And he went maximum Bonkers.

Bad taste.

r u a more a black friday guy?

This isn't really the time to make jokes man.

sigh............. k...  editing previous posts.

But /reiterate..

it's disingenuous to pretend like you care.. 

Like how when people post about how bad they feel,   /inconceivable    when 150,000 people die every day..

Caring has nothing to do with having a bad sense of humor.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 14:02:18
Quote from: romevi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:59:41
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:37:23

sigh............. k...  editing previous posts.

But /reiterate..

it's disingenuous to pretend like you care.. 

Like how when people post about how bad they feel,   /inconceivable    when 150,000 people die every day..

Caring has nothing to do with having a bad sense of humor.


If you wish to discuss this further.. PM me...

For now, please would you respect the wishes of the populace to remain solemn in face of this tragedy..
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: ygor on Mon, 28 November 2016, 14:03:44
Wasn't even a funny joke. Step it up if you're gonna be a troll, fam.

Good to hear you're okay, Alien.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: captsis on Mon, 28 November 2016, 14:29:07
Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:37:14
Sure some of you have heard about this, but I just walked into Columbus, currently chilling at North Market...

My Dorm is so close to where this was all happened.  Looks like they got the son of a *****..

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6s7Of0m.png)


Watts hall is where the shooting was, I live in Scott house....

-.-

Got is an understatement...

Quote
A police officer arrived within a minute of the attack and shot and killed the attacker.

sauce (http://nbc4i.com/2016/11/28/active-shooter-reported-at-osu-campus/)
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:35:34
Guy didn't have a gun.

And the NRA breathes a sigh of relief that this isn't going to be about the 2nd amendment.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: captsis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:46:52
I will leave this here...

(https://i.reddituploads.com/3be422ba7b7f48f7a632b86efe73cef6?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=a391b3954eac7c5c653b1d8ebbdb727c)

Take what you may from it but I thought it was interesting coming from the attacker.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: iri on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:32:42
s/Shooter/Driver
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: Binge on Tue, 29 November 2016, 08:09:21
Happy you're alright alienmang
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 08:47:54
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: iri on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:04:03
Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 08:47:54
not to make it political, but this is why I am not on the side of bringing in refugees. 
How many refugees went on a killing spree in the USA?
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:12:51
Quick question, why do they say "active shooter" when it's a guy stabbing people with a knife?

For a "religion of peace" they sure like killing Americans a lot.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:25:23
Quote from: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:12:51
Quick question, why do they say "active shooter" when it's a guy stabbing people with a knife?

For a "religion of peace" they sure like killing Americans a lot.

Generalizing much?  Most of the violence comes from one small, but powerful, sect.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:29:05
Quote from: chuckdee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:25:23
Quote from: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:12:51
Quick question, why do they say "active shooter" when it's a guy stabbing people with a knife?

For a "religion of peace" they sure like killing Americans a lot.

Generalizing much?  Most of the violence comes from one small, but powerful, sect.

Here is what we know:

Muslim "upset about the way other muslims are treated"

He killed Americans.

He used a knife, not a gun.

Here are the facts.

GO!
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:38:29
Quote from: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:29:05
Quote from: chuckdee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:25:23
Quote from: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:12:51
Quick question, why do they say "active shooter" when it's a guy stabbing people with a knife?

For a "religion of peace" they sure like killing Americans a lot.

Generalizing much?  Most of the violence comes from one small, but powerful, sect.

Here is what we know:

Muslim "upset about the way other muslims are treated"

He killed Americans.

He used a knife, not a gun.

Here are the facts.

GO!


This is not rational behavior.

There is a small portion of people in general,  who are more prone to losing self control..

These incidents are always isolate..

They say nothing about muslims (most of who are peaceful),  or how muslims are treated (not so terribly).

Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:47:19
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:00:07
Quote from: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:29:05
Quote from: chuckdee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:25:23
Quote from: digi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:12:51
Quick question, why do they say "active shooter" when it's a guy stabbing people with a knife?

For a "religion of peace" they sure like killing Americans a lot.

Generalizing much?  Most of the violence comes from one small, but powerful, sect.

Here is what we know:

Muslim "upset about the way other muslims are treated"

He killed Americans.

He used a knife, not a gun.

Here are the facts.

GO!

I'm calling you to the carpet on your 'religion of peace' statement.

GO!  :rolleyes:

Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:47:19
He used an act apparently from a terrorist "magazine" to attack.  I'm not sure why they said shooter probably so that people took it seriously

So he was radicalized by a magazine alone?  I don't usually think that's enough to radicalize someone, but the world could be changing.  That's a scary and concerning angle.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:06:57
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Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:17:19
Quote from: chuckdee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:00:07

So he was radicalized by a magazine alone?  I don't usually think that's enough to radicalize someone, but the world could be changing.  That's a scary and concerning angle.


There has to be a mental framework where such person perceives his life as active persecution for radicalization to occur.


Then there has to be a set of beliefs where violent retaliation is portrayed as the correct (premiere) response.. Supplied by religion


Finally,  such person has to be in a state of stress consistent enough to reach breaking point..



If there was EVER one thing,  it's only a categorization of the beginning or the end of an act.. While the title highlights,  in today's news structure,  we remove all talk of the stuff in the middle, because that's not the entertaining part.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:55:31
The idea that a person is all of a sudden "radicalized" seems a bit far fetched.  Do they read an article or watch a video and suddenly decide to kill a bunch of people?  It seems to disregard their entire background, existence, and mental state before the moment of radicalization?  And everything that happens to them after the radicalization?  Is this person just a radical that deserves to be dehumanized?  What does radicalization even mean beyond a term spread by the news media?

I'm actually relieved that none of the victims lost their lives.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:17:33
Quote from: vivalarevolución on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:55:31

The idea that a person is all of a sudden "radicalized" seems a bit far fetched.


This stuff constantly becomes harder for me to understand, not easier.

I understand that there really is a fringe group that wants to precipitate Armageddon, and I understand that relentless random acts of violence could be an effective method to goad the "civilized world" into engaging with them in terms of violence.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/)

But this action by this kid does not seem to fit that pattern - he seemed irritated that he couldn't find a corner to pray in. Did he imagine that his outburst would make the environment going forward better or worse?

Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 29 November 2016, 18:01:56
Quote from: iri on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:04:03
Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 08:47:54
not to make it political, but this is why I am not on the side of bringing in refugees. 
How many refugees went on a killing spree in the USA?

Now you're introducing of statistical analysis into the dangers that lurk in everyday America.  Please, that's not a reasonable method anymore.  Demonizing immigrants and refugees is a classic political strategy, and it works quite well.

If you actually take a look at the numbers for homicide and mass shootings and such, you will find that very very few of them were terrorist related. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/12/islamic-terrorism-accounts-for-few-recent-mass-shootings-but-also-some-of-the-deadliest/)  Of course, that fact does not generate as many headlines.

Indianapolis has over 100 murders a year and nearly all of these involve citizens and have nothing to do with refugees.   Sometimes the gunshots have woken me up at night.  The city has tens of thousands of refugees, and most of them are good citizens seeking a better life.  The problems with violent crime in America are deeply systemic and need solving but they do not receive nearly as much attention as violence from refugees and immigrants.

But when a Muslim refugee from Africa or the Middle East commits a violent crime, it fits a narrative, gets lots of attention, and peaceful immigrants or even long-time US citizens with brown skin become political targets. 

Are violent incidents with refugees a problem?  Yes, it occurs.  Is it the biggest problem?  Far from it.  Yet solving the biggest problems take a lot more effort and understanding and energy than just saying immigrants and refugees are bad because they are The Other and we should put the brakes on them.
Title: Re: The Ohio State University Active Shooter
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 18:14:41
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