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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: Air tree on Fri, 02 December 2016, 18:00:28
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So my family and I moved into a new house, and me being me I decided to take the room with the only Ethernet port in the house, it's also the smallest room, but I thought so what? I can squeeze.
But for some god damn reason someone thought to put the giant return/intake vent in the room, so when ever it kicks on with my door closed, it becomes a loud ass wind tunnel.
Now I have to cut out some drywall to put in a vent above the door.
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So my family and I moved into a new house, and me being me I decided to take the room with the only Ethernet port in the house, it's also the smallest room, but I thought so what? I can squeeze.
But for some god damn reason someone thought to put the giant return/intake vent in the room, so when ever it kicks on with my door closed, it becomes a loud ass wind tunnel.
Now I have to cut out some drywall to put in a vent above the door.
Bro it sounds like you need to vent. I am here for you if you need to vent.
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Vent for me! :p
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Vent for me! :p
Just be happy you are the east coast of FL <3
That is my homeland right there and dearly miss it.
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yo sup im here
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hrrrrmmmm..
Maybe they put in that room AFTER the house was built..
I don't think the engineer would specify a room with an in without an out..
Or perhaps that is one of the rooms that was mean't to be without a door. and they put in the door afterwards.
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hrrrrmmmm..
Maybe they put in that room AFTER the house was built..
I don't think the engineer would specify a room with an in without an out..
Or perhaps that is one of the rooms that was mean't to be without a door. and they put in the door afterwards.
Sadly some contractors don't think before doing nor ask the people who hired them what they would prefer. And to rectify those problems, $$$.
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That is pretty stupid.
Supplies and returns should be approximately balanced, and the large returns should be in places like central hallways.
Is this an upstairs (formerly attic?) room located just below (or beside) the air handler?
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That is pretty stupid.
Supplies and returns should be approximately balanced, and the large returns should be in places like central hallways.
Is this an upstairs (formerly attic?) room located just below (or beside) the air handler?
Nope, it's a singe level home.
Ironically, the only large return is placed in my room.
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hrrrrmmmm..
Maybe they put in that room AFTER the house was built..
I don't think the engineer would specify a room with an in without an out..
Or perhaps that is one of the rooms that was mean't to be without a door. and they put in the door afterwards.
Sadly some contractors don't think before doing nor ask the people who hired them what they would prefer. And to rectify those problems, $$$.
haha.. yea another vent cover is like $20.. it's easy to cut the hole though..
Or you could make ur own vent cover out of some wood.. but ... depends on if you already have tools to do this.
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hrrrrmmmm..
Maybe they put in that room AFTER the house was built..
I don't think the engineer would specify a room with an in without an out..
Or perhaps that is one of the rooms that was mean't to be without a door. and they put in the door afterwards.
Sadly some contractors don't think before doing nor ask the people who hired them what they would prefer. And to rectify those problems, $$$.
haha.. yea another vent cover is like $20.. it's easy to cut the hole though..
Or you could make ur own vent cover out of some wood.. but ... depends on if you already have tools to do this.
Don't forget the cost of labor!
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"loud ass wind tunnel", loving the ambiguity here xD .
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"loud ass wind tunnel", loving the ambiguity here xD .
Of course the British only use quiet wind-tunnels.. ?
This is an American House.. '' Go Murica'
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"loud ass wind tunnel", loving the ambiguity here xD .
Ass is the bog standard American emphasis, or at least my emphasis.
Needless to say it can create some wonky sentences. :))
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the only large return is placed in my room.
A "large return" should never be placed "in a room"!
It should be in a central open space.
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the only large return is placed in my room.
A "large return" should never be placed "in a room"!
It should be in a central open space.
Tell that to who ever installed the air conditioning.
It makes literally zero sense to install it in a small room. I can't put together who thought it was a good idea...
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I was thinking, how big of a job would it be to relocate a return vent into the living room of a home? I don't really want make my room any more openings considering I'm already by a noisy room of the house and I can't stand any more sound coming into my room.
I understand if there is a lot more to it, I don't really have experience with such a thing.
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I was thinking, how big of a job would it be to relocate a return vent into the living room of a home? I don't really want make my room any more openings considering I'm already by a noisy room of the house and I can't stand any more sound coming into my room.
I understand if there is a lot more to it, I don't really have experience with such a thing.
And thus young air tree became a contractor
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I was thinking, how big of a job would it be to relocate a return vent into the living room of a home? I don't really want make my room any more openings considering I'm already by a noisy room of the house and I can't stand any more sound coming into my room.
I understand if there is a lot more to it, I don't really have experience with such a thing.
And thus young air tree became a contractor
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I was thinking, how big of a job would it be to relocate a return vent into the living room of a home? I don't really want make my room any more openings considering I'm already by a noisy room of the house and I can't stand any more sound coming into my room.
I understand if there is a lot more to it, I don't really have experience with such a thing.
It would depend on level of experience. Overall you would just be diverting a duct to another location. The difficulty would be based on how much space in the attic to relocate the ducting. I wouldnt think it would be too bad, maybe just a pain in the ass.
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It's alot of work..
Just cut the hole in the wall..
If you're worried about mom peaking in while ur on the naughty websites..
Suppose you could just make the vent holes face up.. hahahahaha
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It's alot of work..
Just cut the hole in the wall..
If you're worried about mom peaking in while ur on the naughty websites..
Suppose you could just make the vent holes face up.. hahahahaha
Ehh idk. I think it could be done in half a day easy, if you have everything you need ready.
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It's alot of work..
Just cut the hole in the wall..
If you're worried about mom peaking in while ur on the naughty websites..
Suppose you could just make the vent holes face up.. hahahahaha
Ehh idk. I think it could be done in half a day easy, if you have everything you need ready.
that's alot longer than cutting 2 holes in the drywall. and 8 screws.
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It's alot of work..
Just cut the hole in the wall..
If you're worried about mom peaking in while ur on the naughty websites..
Suppose you could just make the vent holes face up.. hahahahaha
Ehh idk. I think it could be done in half a day easy, if you have everything you need ready.
that's alot longer than cutting 2 holes in the drywall. and 8 screws.
LOL, I guess you have a point there. The drywall would need to be reinforced to prevent cracking though. So some framing should be done around the holes.
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It's alot of work..
Just cut the hole in the wall..
If you're worried about mom peaking in while ur on the naughty websites..
Suppose you could just make the vent holes face up.. hahahahaha
Ehh idk. I think it could be done in half a day easy, if you have everything you need ready.
that's alot longer than cutting 2 holes in the drywall. and 8 screws.
LOL, I guess you have a point there. The drywall would need to be reinforced to prevent cracking though. So some framing should be done around the holes.
um.... orrrrrr to be lazy... just get a big enough vent covering to reach the wall stud..
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A poor man's solution would be to cut an inch off the bottom of the door but I agree with Fohat (for once :) ), it doesn't belong in a closed room.
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A poor man's solution would be to cut an inch off the bottom of the door but I agree with Fohat (for once :) ), it doesn't belong in a closed room.
an inch might look really out of place though.. depending on how far it's off the ground already..
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Can you post a photo? I don't really get how bad it can be. I have never heard any air vents that are so loud that they become a bother. The only air vents that I can hear, are those really huge ones in big public buildings.
A normal one level house should not have such huge differences in air pressure that causes a lot of noise.
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Can you post a photo? I don't really get how bad it can be. I have never heard any air vents that are so loud that they become a bother. The only air vents that I can hear, are those really huge ones in big public buildings.
A normal one level house should not have such huge differences in air pressure that causes a lot of noise.
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This room is situated outside the main living room.
It gives it all it has to suck as much air as possible into the room from the rest of the house to be circulated.
The pressure when the fan kicks on makes it somewhat difficult to close the door.
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If the other side of that wall is the living room, just swap the vent to the other side of the wall and use the drywall you cut out as the patch panel for this side.
Also vents are typically the same width as the studding and there is usually no cross stud above or below (depends though), so you may not need to add anything. While large, there can't be a cross stud on top and bottom if it gets pulled up to the attic or down to the basement, the stud would block airflow. Pull the vent, you will see what I'm talking about. House builders are lazy (and this is one way they cut costs), they aren't going to install special mounting tabs or anything when they can just attach to existing framing studs and a couple drywall screws.
As to moving it somewhere else entirely...
Most of that job is simple (piping and vents), a couple hours at most. However, going back to what I said above, you may have to cut into/through floor joists or beams to allow airflow, and that would be structural and a no go. If you must move it elsewhere, my advice would be to move it onto a horizontal surface and use a pair of vents. This way you don't have to cut anything but plywood flooring or drywall (ceiling).
Easiest solution is to just flip it around to face the living room, which is where it should be anyhow. Who knows, maybe that was where it was originally and at some point a later owner didn't like seeing it, so they flipped it around. Wouldn't be the first time.
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This room is situated outside the main living room.
It gives it all it has to suck as much air as possible into the room from the rest of the house to be circulated.
The pressure when the fan kicks on makes it somewhat difficult to close the door.
Tiles on a bedroom floor is just... strange
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Can you post a photo? I don't really get how bad it can be. I have never heard any air vents that are so loud that they become a bother. The only air vents that I can hear, are those really huge ones in big public buildings.
A normal one level house should not have such huge differences in air pressure that causes a lot of noise.
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This room is situated outside the main living room.
It gives it all it has to suck as much air as possible into the room from the rest of the house to be circulated.
The pressure when the fan kicks on makes it somewhat difficult to close the door.
If the pressure difference is that large, you have to cut a hole.. that's the only way to do it.. Put it close to the top so mom can't peak at you..
It also has to be a really big hole.. because even if it's the same size as the vent, you're going to get whoooshing-air-noise..
So get a large vent with total OPEN surface 2-3x greater than that current vent.
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Can you post a photo? I don't really get how bad it can be. I have never heard any air vents that are so loud that they become a bother. The only air vents that I can hear, are those really huge ones in big public buildings.
A normal one level house should not have such huge differences in air pressure that causes a lot of noise.
(Attachment Link)
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This room is situated outside the main living room.
It gives it all it has to suck as much air as possible into the room from the rest of the house to be circulated.
The pressure when the fan kicks on makes it somewhat difficult to close the door.
If the pressure difference is that large, you have to cut a hole.. that's the only way to do it.. Put it close to the top so mom can't peak at you..
It also has to be a really big hole.. because even if it's the same size as the vent, you're going to get whoooshing-air-noise..
So get a large vent with total OPEN surface 2-3x greater than that current vent.
OP's house is really strange.
His bedroom is already looking weird with those two doors and that floor. I think it was originally designed to be part of the kitchen.
I suspect house was renovated by previous owner who did his own work.
The best solution really seems to cut drywall elsewhere and move the vent there. If it's drywall and air venting it can't be structural can it?
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OP's house is really strange.
His bedroom is already looking weird with those two doors and that floor. I think it was originally designed to be part of the kitchen.
I suspect house was renovated by previous owner who did his own work.
The best solution really seems to cut drywall elsewhere and move the vent there. If it's drywall and air venting it can't be structural can it?
There's no way they'd design a house to have that much pressure at the door.. So this was definitely put in later.
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A photo of the wall on the opposite side of the return would be very helpful, and back up and show more.
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Just to be clear, the other side of the wall with the return vent is in the garage. The living room is through my door.
(And there isn't two doors in my room, it's a closet. :p )
And the whole house has tile. It's Florida, so maybe it's a southern thing, I don't know. I don't like the tile, but it's there.
With where my room is, I'd have to install a intake vent somewhere else in the house.
I'm pretty inexperienced with doing such a thing. Any reading material for such a task? :p
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If there is an attic, and that is where the evaporator/air handler is, a ceiling return in a more central location with a shorter duct run would be much better and probably more efficient anyway. But if you put it in the kitchen ceiling, you will diffuse cooking smells throughout the house!
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Keep it simple.. One hole... Vent covers.. done...