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Title: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Fri, 03 February 2017, 16:54:00
Hi everyone!

I'm not sure how many UK/EU people we have on here but I thought I'd post this here just for those who don't use reddit.

I've been looking to get Gateron Switches recently and the cheapest I could find within the UK were from Caps Unlocked which were 0.27p per switch during a group buy. I've managed to find a wholesaler who can do them for £0.19 per switch for orders of 1000+ switches. I'm just checking with the seller for a MOQ and expected shipping cost but even if the shipping cost works out to 8p per switch which I don't think it will, then it still matches the price by Caps Unlocked which isn't available at the moment any way.

The switches the seller offers are:

These are all transparent clear switch covers and plate and pcb compatible.

The seller is fine with mixing switches, and I'm happy to do the work splitting the orders.

I'd be looking to put in an order for a couple of hundred switches myself, so if only 10 people join in for a 60% the group buy is likely to go ahead.
Happy to answer any questions you may have.
If the group buy goes ahead it would be the usual process of fill out an order form with how many you need and after the buy closes I'll invoice each of the participants via paypal. Or i can set up an online shop, and take orders there since the MOQ is likely to be met.
Please fill out the interest check form. https://goo.gl/forms/iu24ixv07a651rxP2 (https://goo.gl/forms/iu24ixv07a651rxP2)

I'll update this when I get a confirmed quote for the shipping.

This Group Buy would be open to UK and EU residents. If there's enough people wanting it I'll open it up to US.

All prices are in GBP.

EDIT: Added interest check form url.

Update 01:00GMT: MOQ is 1600pcs current interest checks total just over 800. Shipping price will bring switches to about £0.20.

Update 09:30GMT: The interest checks are just shy of 2500 switches. So I have no doubt that the GB will happen, which is great news. I'm going to let the interest check go on for today and I'll start ironing out the details of how the group buy will be run.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: tobsn on Fri, 03 February 2017, 17:01:34
Signed up! :)

You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: VicareyG on Fri, 03 February 2017, 17:04:14
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You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!

I'll send him a message and ask!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 03 February 2017, 19:16:45
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You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!

I'll send him a message and ask!


That would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if Zeal has some kind of exclusivity deal on that though.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 03 February 2017, 19:50:53
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You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!

I'll send him a message and ask!


That would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if Zeal has some kind of exclusivity deal on that though.

I believe Zeal owns the molds for the fully trans housings.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: VicareyG on Fri, 03 February 2017, 20:17:57
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You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!

I'll send him a message and ask!


That would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if Zeal has some kind of exclusivity deal on that though.

I believe Zeal owns the molds for the fully trans housings.

That's good to know. Just got a reply from the seller that they do have rgb gaterons with white bottoms and a larger hole to allow smd LEDs to shine through.and they are the same price. I'll ask if I'm able to combine the rgb and normal casings into a single order since we'd already be mixing switch types, I don't see what the problem would be jordering different case types.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: tobsn on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:56:06
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You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!

I'll send him a message and ask!


That would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if Zeal has some kind of exclusivity deal on that though.

I believe Zeal owns the molds for the fully trans housings.


guaranteed not - the molds are just gateron molds hence it says gateron on the switch. he might have talked them into producing transparent bottoms only for him but i highly doubt they would honor that.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 08:13:46
guaranteed not - the molds are just gateron molds hence it says gateron on the switch. he might have talked them into producing transparent bottoms only for him but i highly doubt they would honor that.
 
 
That sounds possible but my seller doesn't have transparent bottom switches. Maybe if this Group Buy goes well enough I'll go through the steps of contacting Gateron direct and seeing whether its possible to get their normal line in a full transparent housing.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 04 February 2017, 09:52:51
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You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!

I'll send him a message and ask!


That would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if Zeal has some kind of exclusivity deal on that though.

I believe Zeal owns the molds for the fully trans housings.


guaranteed not - the molds are just gateron molds hence it says gateron on the switch. he might have talked them into producing transparent bottoms only for him but i highly doubt they would honor that.

Pretty confident I am right. Who else has fully trans switches apart from Zeal? I'm fairly certain he has even mentioned this in the early zealio threads, and the reason for the higher pricing. Also if you recall, MD was going to run a full trans gateron GB last year, but it was shut down after a few days.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 10:52:28
UPDATE

The Group Buy will be starting at 10pmGMT TODAY 04/02/2017. The group buy will take place on my site. https://www.opticboards.com/shop/gateron-switch (https://www.opticboards.com/shop/gateron-switch) Payment is accepted via stripe and paypal. More info is available on the site. Any questions can be answered publicly here, or I can be contacted via PM on here or Reddit (same username), or I can be reached via email george@opticboards.com.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 04 February 2017, 11:00:41
UPDATE

The Group Buy will be starting at 10pmGMT TODAY 04/02/2017. The group buy will take place on my site. https://www.opticboards.com/shop/gateron-switch (https://www.opticboards.com/shop/gateron-switch) Payment is accepted via stripe and paypal. More info is available on the site. Any questions can be answered publicly here, or I can be contacted via PM on here or Reddit (same username), or I can be reached via email george@opticboards.com.

That was... rather quick.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 11:15:24

That was... rather quick.

Yes the MOQ was over doubled in interest checks so it seemed pointless to not start the GB as there aren't any further price break points.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: Hydra04 on Sat, 04 February 2017, 12:55:20
You should also post this on deskthority :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:01:26
You should also post this on deskthority :thumb:
inb4 20k+ switches in less than a week
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:14:42
You should also post this on deskthority :thumb:
inb4 20k+ switches in less than a week
 

I've been meaning to create an account on there for ages. I'll post it there too. Thanks for the suggestion!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 15:51:44
THE GROUP BUY IS NOW LIVE

Orders Up! https://www.opticboards.com/shop/gateron-switch (https://www.opticboards.com/shop/gateron-switch)
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: parityb1t on Sat, 04 February 2017, 16:28:22
New to GBs so going to ask the dumb questions  :p
But I'm guessing the £0.24 does not include shipping to our doors and this will be invoiced at a later stage?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 16:31:36
New to GBs so going to ask the dumb questions  :p
But I'm guessing the £0.24 does not include shipping to our doors and this will be invoiced at a later stage?

That is correct! I will invoice for shipping once I have received the groups order and split it up.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Mainly UK/EU possible CONUS
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sat, 04 February 2017, 16:58:12
Quote
You should ask him if he can get all transparent housing!

I'll send him a message and ask!


That would be awesome. I wouldn't be surprised if Zeal has some kind of exclusivity deal on that though.

I believe Zeal owns the molds for the fully trans housings.


guaranteed not - the molds are just gateron molds hence it says gateron on the switch. he might have talked them into producing transparent bottoms only for him but i highly doubt they would honor that.

Pretty confident I am right. Who else has fully trans switches apart from Zeal? I'm fairly certain he has even mentioned this in the early zealio threads, and the reason for the higher pricing. Also if you recall, MD was going to run a full trans gateron GB last year, but it was shut down after a few days.


I concur, I don't know about the mold being the same or different (looks the same to me but I haven't looked carefully at all) but I reckon he must have some sort of deal on a fully trans case. He definitely has some sort of exclusivity agreement on the slider as he said the tactile clears that were sent to winkeyless (basically zealios but a different colour) should not have been and were never sent again. There was a thread a while ago where he mentioned it. I don't know for sure about the fully trans housing but I would expect so, can always ask him/gateron in the future if this buy goes well =].

Anyway I'm down for this, nice to have someone in the UK and a really good price too. I will be ordering 200 or so shortly =]
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 17:10:02
Anyway I'm down for this, nice to have someone in the UK and a really good price too. I will be ordering 200 or so shortly =]

Thanks for the support! 250 switches ordered already, if you place yours you'll nearly double it.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sat, 04 February 2017, 17:30:57
Anyway I'm down for this, nice to have someone in the UK and a really good price too. I will be ordering 200 or so shortly =]

Thanks for the support! 250 switches ordered already, if you place yours you'll nearly double it.

Consider it doubled =]
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: VicareyG on Sat, 04 February 2017, 17:36:47
Nice! Thank you, we're now sitting at 800 Switches
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU - [GB] link inside
Post by: VicareyG on Sun, 05 February 2017, 04:47:51
THE MOQ HAS BEEN PASSED!

As of 10:45am GMT we are at 1962 switches ordered.  This Group Buy will happen!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcom - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Sun, 05 February 2017, 16:15:16
I have had a couple of orders from the US so if anyone else over there wants to order, I'll happily accept. Shipping would be around £10, dependant on quantity ordered.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcom - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 05 February 2017, 20:38:23
What's the timeline on shipping these?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcom - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Mon, 06 February 2017, 03:29:13
What's the timeline on shipping these?


I'll copy in what I've written on a reddit.

"Once the group buy ends on Friday I will place the groups order, after that it could be 1-3 weeks before I receive the items. This is due to Chinese New Year just coming to an end and Chinese shipping companies will be backlogged right now. I'd expect to receive the order by the 3rd March. I'll then split the orders up and email the participants a shipping invoice and I'll start posting orders as and when the shipping is paid. I hope to have all orders out by 10th March at the latest. I will be available throughout the whole process for enquiries and I'll be doing my best to keep everyone updated."
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcome - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 06 February 2017, 07:08:01
Will you be able show some pictures of the RGB top/white bottom?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcome - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Mon, 06 February 2017, 07:38:38
Will you be able show some pictures of the RGB top/white bottom?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

(http://i.imgur.com/qzn8eaL.jpg)
This is an image sent to me by my supplier, it shows the housing well enough I think. note the small recess underneath the LED slot to allow a SMD LED to be on the switch side of the motherboard. I'm interested to get my hands on some because I want to see how well they actually allow light through on a PCB.

I'm going to be ordering about 1000 switches myself, I'm going to try to develop a small PCB that will allow all 14 switches to be on showing the use of both SMD LEDs and the traditional 2 pin LEDs as well as the 4 PIN RGB LEDs, all on one board so not only a switch tester but an LED tester too.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcome - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 06 February 2017, 08:33:03
Will you be able show some pictures of the RGB top/white bottom?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qzn8eaL.jpg)

This is an image sent to me by my supplier, it shows the housing well enough I think. note the small recess underneath the LED slot to allow a SMD LED to be on the switch side of the motherboard. I'm interested to get my hands on some because I want to see how well they actually allow light through on a PCB.

I'm going to be ordering about 1000 switches myself, I'm going to try to develop a small PCB that will allow all 14 switches to be on showing the use of both SMD LEDs and the traditional 2 pin LEDs as well as the 4 PIN RGB LEDs, all on one board so not only a switch tester but an LED tester too.

Very interesting, so the black bottom switches are the 'regular' switches and the white bottom switches are SMD compatible switches, is this correct?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcome - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: tobsn on Mon, 06 February 2017, 09:12:20
Very interesting, so the black bottom switches are the 'regular' switches and the white bottom switches are SMD compatible switches, is this correct?

Yep. ref: have RGB ones here, different types, all white bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcome - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Mon, 06 February 2017, 09:28:25
Very interesting, so the black bottom switches are the 'regular' switches and the white bottom switches are SMD compatible switches, is this correct?

Yep. ref: have RGB ones here, different types, all white bottom.

Another thing to note is that for my group buy the white bottom are 3 pin (Plate mount only) and the black bottom ones are 5 pin (suitable for plate and PCB mounting).
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - UK/EU US Welcome - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Mon, 06 February 2017, 13:33:03
It's now been 24 hours since the last order was placed. No one else interested?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: digi on Wed, 08 February 2017, 10:54:05
So are you shipping to the U.S.? If so, what is the cost per switch in U.S. dollar and how much is shipping?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Wed, 08 February 2017, 11:16:14
So are you shipping to the U.S.? If so, what is the cost per switch in U.S. dollar and how much is shipping?

I am now shipping to the US since I had a couplel of orders and didn't want to cancel an order on someone, price per switch is about $0.30 (subject to exchange rate on day of purchase).

Shipping price to the US is about £5 untracked or £10 tracked, this postage is for 150 switches. More switches increase the shipping cost.

E: blasted typos!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: digi on Wed, 08 February 2017, 11:20:56
I am no shipping to the US since I had a coupel of orders and didn't want to cancel an order on someone

Uhm, hmmm...so is that a yes or no? haha
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Wed, 08 February 2017, 11:26:34
I am no shipping to the US since I had a coupel of orders and didn't want to cancel an order on someone

Uhm, hmmm...so is that a yes or no? haha

Oops! That was meant to read now not no! I am shipping to the US and worldwide! Sorry about that!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: h3xadat on Wed, 08 February 2017, 12:09:02
It's now been 24 hours since the last order was placed. No one else interested?

I'm interested. Is it still possible to enter?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Wed, 08 February 2017, 12:25:44
It's now been 24 hours since the last order was placed. No one else interested?

I'm interested. Is it still possible to enter?

Yes! I won't close the group buy until Friday at 12. It may even be open a few extra hours because I won't finish work until 5pm and may not have time to close it properly on my lunch break.
Title: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: h3xadat on Wed, 08 February 2017, 12:35:38
It's now been 24 hours since the last order was placed. No one else interested?

I'm interested. Is it still possible to enter?

Yes! I won't close the group buy until Friday at 12. It may even be open a few extra hours because I won't finish work until 5pm and may not have time to close it properly on my lunch break.

Great! Enough time to finally make a decision.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Wed, 08 February 2017, 13:11:35
Great! Enough time to finally make a decision.

Nice! If you have any questions, just ask!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: tobsn on Wed, 08 February 2017, 15:42:54
that's $36 per 120 switch, that's actually $1 more expensive than pcgamingrace etc. what's the benefit? or rather what's the shipping cost in EU?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Wed, 08 February 2017, 15:57:10
that's $36 per 120 switch, that's actually $1 more expensive than pcgamingrace etc. what's the benefit? or rather what's the shipping cost in EU?

That price of $0.30 per switch is just what the current exchange rate brings up for £0.24, which I have no control of. The benefits? More switch choices perhaps? For those inside the EU there's no custom fees with shipping between EU countries that I know of, however there likely would be if ordered from the US. EU shipping is about £4 untracked £8 tracked.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Thu, 09 February 2017, 08:06:50
Just under a day left for the group buy. Don't forget to order if you're planning on doing so.   :D
Title: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: Pesticide on Thu, 09 February 2017, 12:04:44
Since you're speaking of shipping, will it be tracked or not inside the EU ?
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Thu, 09 February 2017, 12:18:12
Since you're speaking of shipping, will it be tracked or not inside the EU ?

I'll offer the choice of tracked or untracked. Within the EU that would be about £4 untracked and £9 tracked for shipping up to 150 switches.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: Pesticide on Thu, 09 February 2017, 13:01:02
Since you're speaking of shipping, will it be tracked or not inside the EU ?

I'll offer the choice of tracked or untracked. Within the EU that would be about £4 untracked and £9 tracked for shipping up to 150 switches.

Okay perfect, thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:38:36
Thank you to all participants! This Group buy has now closed! :D
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 02 March 2017, 05:44:09
Already got my switches today! A lot faster than I expected.
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Thu, 02 March 2017, 07:18:44
Already got my switches today! A lot faster than I expected.

That's great news!
Title: Re: [IC] Gateron Switches - Worldwide - [GB] link inside MOQ Reached
Post by: VicareyG on Tue, 21 March 2017, 15:23:47
For those who participated in this group buy who haven't yet paid for shipping, could you please do so or get in touch with me. There are only 6 of you left to pay, you should've received at least 5 emails from me.