Here's my personal experience.
I started the MX journey with a WKL B.face. It was fantastic; I loved everything about it (used Vintage Blacks), but not having the arrows really took a toll after a while. I use the arrows extensively, and having them embedded in an Fn layer still didn't cut it. So I sold it and joined a kustom sale for a 65% board.
In my current setup I have a 55g Realforce at work and 72g Clears at home. The thing about having tactile MX switches is that you really have to modify them to make them decent (at least for me). I have them lubed with gold 72g springs, and that's actually about as close to 55g Topre as I can get (maybe with a bit lighter weight for springs). I love the feel, but, of course, Topre is my preference.
Have yo considered the Leopold FC660m or FC660c? I know a lot of people like those layouts, and they have the arrows as well. You can get them in either MX or Topre.
Well, clears get stiffer all the way down, which gives them that cushiony feel, and Topre is just the opposite, with the stiffness at the top of the stroke and very little resistance as you go past that.
I don't know what you'd like best but those two switches are quite different, especially if you're a bottom out typist.
If you want to bottom out at all costs (which boggles my mind), then make ergo clears or go with Zealio/MOD switches... or Alps.
Where do you see the Novatouch? They've been discontinued, but I know there's a GB for an alu case.
mx clear is exhausting.
clear in general is over rated..
It was SPECIAL simply because it was less common (at the time)
Just like when REDS were uncommon, and now that everyone has reds, everyone's saying how UNCOOL they are now..
It's all a fad..
In the end.. the ERGODOX reigns supreme.. /Best keyboard
Clears can get fatiguing after extended use unless you have sausage fingers or heavy hands. :D
mx clear is exhausting.
clear in general is over rated..
I'd personally put Clears over Topre.
What if ergodox had topre
mx clear is exhausting.
Clears can get fatiguing after extended use unless you have sausage fingers or heavy hands. :D
I'd personally put Clears over Topre.
I'm going to have to disregard everything you say from here on out...sorry bud.
Clears can get fatiguing after extended use unless you have sausage fingers or heavy hands. :D
Clears can get fatiguing after extended use unless you have sausage fingers or heavy hands. :D
This worry is pretty much the only thing that has kept me from ordering clears and cracking open the Advantage. I have been wondering about green or black too.
I usually don't like tactile but they are perfect on the Advantage layout. Do think I could handle a slightly heavier switch.
I'd personally put Clears over Topre.
I'm going to have to disregard everything you say from here on out...sorry bud.
You didn't already?
I also have a 40g Topre board, so YMMV. I haven't used any other weight for an extended period of time.
I'd personally put Clears over Topre.
I'm going to have to disregard everything you say from here on out...sorry bud.
You didn't already?
I also have a 40g Topre board, so YMMV. I haven't used any other weight for an extended period of time.
I do listen to you, I'm here for you! Lean on me!
How do you have a 40g board?? Step your game up to 55g if you like Clears breh.
Was there a 40g dome? or do you think they're 45g with some wear and sag?
mx brown. not joking either.
mx brown. not joking either.
In the mean time I got a cheap board with blue Kailh switches and while they are fairly good and I don't see a big problem with QAQC in regards to the force tolerances they are LOUD AS HELL...
In the mean time I got a cheap board with blue Kailh switches and while they are fairly good and I don't see a big problem with QAQC in regards to the force tolerances they are LOUD AS HELL...
This may be obvious, but have you tried adding O-rings to your stems?:Show Image(http://thewirecutter.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/mechanicalkeyboards-lowres-6915.jpg)
They're quite cheap (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xkeyboard+o-rings.TRS0&_nkw=keyboard+o-rings&_sacat=58058) and can make a big sound difference. They shorten the switches's travel slightly, but most people don't find that a showstopper.
Yeah I tried. It was the click that was bothering me, not the bottoming out. Also this board had a terrible ping that could be heard after every key press, not only the big ones with stabilizers. I ended up getting rid of the board and I'm trying to get Vortex Pok3r with MX Clears and PBT keycaps but I guess they aren't being sold anywhere at the moment. Just my luck.
Clears can get fatiguing after extended use unless you have sausage fingers or heavy hands. :D
Can vouch, I got a QFR in mid 2016 with Browns just as a curiosity and I'm still surprised as to how smooth they are. Maybe I got an extraordinarily good batch, who knows. I highly doubt it though, as one of the switches on the board had a bad spring that would sorta buckle when you got close to bottoming out. Had to replace that manually.mx brown. not joking either.
But they are audibly scratchy...
that seems to be BS, since the ones I have aren't scratchy especially not audibly.... (1up to your dots)
It's just that I hate the very distinct bump that MX Clears make. It's almost to a level of which it's distracting, and I can't say that about MX Browns.
I think that might be the reason people dont like browns... the tactile bump is so understated that it feels crunchy rather than tactile.
MX Browns start to make a lot more sense for long-term touch typing. I soon learned that MX Clears weren't for me when I tried touch typing with them. They felt great at a first glance with a switch tester, but once I started typing on a board full of them with all of my fingers.. yeah, no. MX Browns initially felt awful on the switch tester, but when I got a board full of them, they just felt a whole lot better for typing.It's just that I hate the very distinct bump that MX Clears make. It's almost to a level of which it's distracting, and I can't say that about MX Browns.
I think that might be the reason people dont like browns... the tactile bump is so understated that it feels crunchy rather than tactile.
I personally dont mind browns. I have a fullsize ducky with browns thats actually great to type on for long periods of time.
MX Browns start to make a lot more sense for long-term touch typing. I soon learned that MX Clears weren't for me when I tried touch typing with them. They felt great at a first glance with a switch tester, but once I started typing on a board full of them with all of my fingers.. yeah, no. MX Browns initially felt awful on the switch tester, but when I got a board full of them, they just felt a whole lot better for typing.It's just that I hate the very distinct bump that MX Clears make. It's almost to a level of which it's distracting, and I can't say that about MX Browns.
I think that might be the reason people dont like browns... the tactile bump is so understated that it feels crunchy rather than tactile.
I personally dont mind browns. I have a fullsize ducky with browns thats actually great to type on for long periods of time.