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Title: [HELP] KBD75 Stabilizer vs Plate ISSUE
Post by: potatobot on Thu, 23 February 2017, 23:33:34
So I recently acquired a KBD75 keyboard from KBDfans (direct from taobao)

Last week I started building it with these specs in mind:
-Garistotle (gateron blue housing and spring | Aristotle stems)
-Zeal Screw In stabilizers
-Alu plate and Case
-75% pcb

After modding all the switches and installing all the stabs

(https://i.imgur.com/CG1ni63.jpg)

I mounted some switches and tested the stabilizers, everything seemed fine until i tested the spacebar, garistotles are supposed to be clicky, but the spacebar wasnt clicking. so i tested various stuff until i noticed this

http://gph.is/2lBHnTF

The stab wire actually hits the plate on this spot:

(https://i.imgur.com/thKezF9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MzvKGfR.jpg)

What i tried to do already:
1. Change spring(mx clear spring) coz i thought the switch couldnt handle the weight of the spacebar
2. Change the wire coz i noticed that zeal wires are thicker than the chinese wire and gmk wire
3. FLIP the stab but yeah it doesnt work as shown below:

(https://i.imgur.com/iEZSJwo.jpg)

So aside from Modding the plate itself(i checked whether it was an issue on this specific plate alone but i have 2 of these and they are shaped the same),

Any other ideas guys?
Title: Re: [HELP] KBD75 Stabilizer vs Plate ISSUE
Post by: OfTheWild on Fri, 24 February 2017, 00:07:05
It looks to me like you would need to file out a slit in the plate large enough for the wire to come up at that angle through the hole. If you have a cheap steel wire you can test with you might try making a bend or filing the wire flat in that area to try and get some more articulation? from it. I wouldn't risk ruining those gold wires though.

(great documentation by the way)
Title: Re: [HELP] KBD75 Stabilizer vs Plate ISSUE
Post by: potatobot on Fri, 24 February 2017, 00:23:07
It looks to me like you would need to file out a slit in the plate large enough for the wire to come up at that angle through the hole. If you have a cheap steel wire you can test with you might try making a bend or filing the wire flat in that area to try and get some more articulation? from it. I wouldn't risk ruining those gold wires though.

(great documentation by the way)

yeah that was the only thing i can think off, but it might ruin the finish on the plate, especially the other one coz its black. :(

contacted the seller/maker from china, i hope they understand what i mean.
Title: Re: [HELP] KBD75 Stabilizer vs Plate ISSUE
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 24 February 2017, 08:13:37
It looks to me like you would need to file out a slit in the plate large enough for the wire to come up at that angle through the hole. If you have a cheap steel wire you can test with you might try making a bend or filing the wire flat in that area to try and get some more articulation? from it. I wouldn't risk ruining those gold wires though.

(great documentation by the way)

yeah that was the only thing i can think off, but it might ruin the finish on the plate, especially the other one coz its black. :(

contacted the seller/maker from china, i hope they understand what i mean.
Have you tried flashing the pcb yet? Mine came with the arrow keys backwards along with a few other people I talked to and it won't take a flash
So I recently acquired a KBD75 keyboard from KBDfans (direct from taobao)

Last week I started building it with these specs in mind:
-Garistotle (gateron blue housing and spring | Aristotle stems)
-Zeal Screw In stabilizers
-Alu plate and Case
-75% pcb

After modding all the switches and installing all the stabs

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CG1ni63.jpg)


I mounted some switches and tested the stabilizers, everything seemed fine until i tested the spacebar, garistotles are supposed to be clicky, but the spacebar wasnt clicking. so i tested various stuff until i noticed this

http://gph.is/2lBHnTF

The stab wire actually hits the plate on this spot:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/thKezF9.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MzvKGfR.jpg)


What i tried to do already:
1. Change spring(mx clear spring) coz i thought the switch couldnt handle the weight of the spacebar
2. Change the wire coz i noticed that zeal wires are thicker than the chinese wire and gmk wire
3. FLIP the stab but yeah it doesnt work as shown below:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iEZSJwo.jpg)


So aside from Modding the plate itself(i checked whether it was an issue on this specific plate alone but i have 2 of these and they are shaped the same),

Any other ideas guys?


Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [HELP] KBD75 Stabilizer vs Plate ISSUE
Post by: potatobot on Fri, 24 February 2017, 08:24:04
It looks to me like you would need to file out a slit in the plate large enough for the wire to come up at that angle through the hole. If you have a cheap steel wire you can test with you might try making a bend or filing the wire flat in that area to try and get some more articulation? from it. I wouldn't risk ruining those gold wires though.

(great documentation by the way)

yeah that was the only thing i can think off, but it might ruin the finish on the plate, especially the other one coz its black. :(

contacted the seller/maker from china, i hope they understand what i mean.
Have you tried flashing the pcb yet? Mine came with the arrow keys backwards along with a few other people I talked to and it won't take a flash
So I recently acquired a KBD75 keyboard from KBDfans (direct from taobao)

Last week I started building it with these specs in mind:
-Garistotle (gateron blue housing and spring | Aristotle stems)
-Zeal Screw In stabilizers
-Alu plate and Case
-75% pcb

After modding all the switches and installing all the stabs

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CG1ni63.jpg)


I mounted some switches and tested the stabilizers, everything seemed fine until i tested the spacebar, garistotles are supposed to be clicky, but the spacebar wasnt clicking. so i tested various stuff until i noticed this

http://gph.is/2lBHnTF

The stab wire actually hits the plate on this spot:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/thKezF9.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MzvKGfR.jpg)


What i tried to do already:
1. Change spring(mx clear spring) coz i thought the switch couldnt handle the weight of the spacebar
2. Change the wire coz i noticed that zeal wires are thicker than the chinese wire and gmk wire
3. FLIP the stab but yeah it doesnt work as shown below:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iEZSJwo.jpg)


So aside from Modding the plate itself(i checked whether it was an issue on this specific plate alone but i have 2 of these and they are shaped the same),

Any other ideas guys?


Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

oh, is there a fix? i havent tried flashing it yet T_T
Title: Re: [HELP] KBD75 Stabilizer vs Plate ISSUE
Post by: Tally810 on Fri, 24 February 2017, 08:30:59
It looks to me like you would need to file out a slit in the plate large enough for the wire to come up at that angle through the hole. If you have a cheap steel wire you can test with you might try making a bend or filing the wire flat in that area to try and get some more articulation? from it. I wouldn't risk ruining those gold wires though.

(great documentation by the way)

yeah that was the only thing i can think off, but it might ruin the finish on the plate, especially the other one coz its black. :(

contacted the seller/maker from china, i hope they understand what i mean.
Have you tried flashing the pcb yet? Mine came with the arrow keys backwards along with a few other people I talked to and it won't take a flash
So I recently acquired a KBD75 keyboard from KBDfans (direct from taobao)

Last week I started building it with these specs in mind:
-Garistotle (gateron blue housing and spring | Aristotle stems)
-Zeal Screw In stabilizers
-Alu plate and Case
-75% pcb

After modding all the switches and installing all the stabs

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CG1ni63.jpg)


I mounted some switches and tested the stabilizers, everything seemed fine until i tested the spacebar, garistotles are supposed to be clicky, but the spacebar wasnt clicking. so i tested various stuff until i noticed this

http://gph.is/2lBHnTF

The stab wire actually hits the plate on this spot:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/thKezF9.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MzvKGfR.jpg)


What i tried to do already:
1. Change spring(mx clear spring) coz i thought the switch couldnt handle the weight of the spacebar
2. Change the wire coz i noticed that zeal wires are thicker than the chinese wire and gmk wire
3. FLIP the stab but yeah it doesnt work as shown below:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iEZSJwo.jpg)


So aside from Modding the plate itself(i checked whether it was an issue on this specific plate alone but i have 2 of these and they are shaped the same),

Any other ideas guys?


Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

oh, is there a fix? i havent tried flashing it yet T_T
Not sure was just wondering if yours was the same way as mine and several other people I've talked to :/

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