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Title: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: emusic on Sun, 26 February 2017, 05:19:31: I recently ordered an Infinity 60% kit from massdrop and I finished building it today. I seem to have an issue where if I press down on the edges of a stabilised key (other than the space bar) the key clicks in onto that side.

Here is a picture of what happens when I do it with the backspace key.

(http://i.imgur.com/OE9QqhH.jpg)

This issue doesn't seem to occur on one a numpad I have with costar stabilisers.

Is there any way to fix this or is this a common issue?
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 10:19:48: There's something wrong with the stabilizer setup or something is broken. Are the stabilizer inserts pulling out of the keycaps?
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 26 February 2017, 10:24:44: Quote from: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 10:19:48
There's something wrong with the stabilizer setup or something is broken. Are the stabilizer inserts pulling out of the keycaps?
Ya gotta take that cap off and get us a picture under there to see what's wrong with the stab

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Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 10:28:03: And make sure the stabilizer inserts are installed correctly. They are not symmetric, there's a front and back.
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Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Viking_Robot on Sun, 26 February 2017, 13:41:53: prob just not seated correctly or reversed like another mentioned. Thats my guess based on the image.
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: emusic on Sun, 26 February 2017, 15:07:40: (http://i.imgur.com/huR0rir.jpg)

Here is how the stabiliser is mounted.
This is the guide I followed;
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 15:30:11: No. You install the inserts into the keycaps and then install the caps. That video is wrong.
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 February 2017, 16:06:34: Quote from: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 15:30:11
That video is wrong.

i've always done it that way, much less hassle

in fact i just took the shifts off my filco to make sure, and it definitely works fine
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Blazestorm on Sun, 26 February 2017, 16:11:39: Yep I've always done it the lazy way, rarely had issues. Although I see the logic behind that inserts first method...
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 16:22:34: http://support.wasdkeyboards.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1415061-removing-cherry-mx-keycaps
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 26 February 2017, 17:44:13: Quote from: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 15:30:11
No. You install the inserts into the keycaps and then install the caps. That video is wrong.

I've done it both ways

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Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Hyde on Sun, 26 February 2017, 17:48:43: Quote from: Tactile on Sun, 26 February 2017, 16:22:34
http://support.wasdkeyboards.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1415061-removing-cherry-mx-keycaps

^ I second this, I've always done it this way.

Another thing to make sure is that sometimes the inserts might be too loose and come off, in that case you can wrap some plumber's type onto the stem to tighten it up.
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: emusic on Sun, 26 February 2017, 23:58:20: I have tried it both ways and it occurs on both methods. The stabilised keys work fine, it only happens when I press down with a little force on one end. Still not sure if this is an issue or not ha.
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tactile on Mon, 27 February 2017, 01:30:05: Quote from: emusic on Sun, 26 February 2017, 23:58:20
I have tried it both ways and it occurs on both methods. The stabilised keys work fine, it only happens when I press down with a little force on one end. Still not sure if this is an issue or not ha.

It sounds like the stabilizer inserts are too loose. Try this (http://themoderncoder.com/how-to-fix-loose-sa-keycap-stabilizer-inserts).
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: pomk on Mon, 27 February 2017, 05:06:59: The stabilizer bar should be on the side of the LED hole, usually at least. Have you tried to have everything stab related rotated 180 degrees?
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 27 February 2017, 10:37:46: Are you sure you pressed the cap in all the way ?
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Delirious on Mon, 27 February 2017, 18:26:00: Shave the living **** out of your stab inserts until they no longer rub against the stabilizer guards.

(http://i.imgur.com/bHMDrC7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5eZWwFc.jpg)
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 19:44:34: Quote from: Delirious on Mon, 27 February 2017, 18:26:00
Shave the living **** out of your stab inserts until they no longer rub against the stabilizer guards.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bHMDrC7.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5eZWwFc.jpg)

That's neat

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Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: emusic on Tue, 28 February 2017, 03:49:29: The issue was indeed that the costar insert was too loose into the GMK keycaps. I fixed this by cutting tiny squares off a bit of thin plastic and pushing the inserts into the keycap with the plastic ontop to make a tighter fit. Seems to be no issues anymore!
Title: Re: Costar stabiliser issue
Post by: wodan on Tue, 28 February 2017, 03:54:05: That's a known issue with those piece of **** Costar stabilizers.

Funny thing, there are TWO kinds of wires that come with these stabilizers. If the wire is completely FLAT on the table, you will not have issues with ORIGINAL CHERRY KEYCAPS ... but if you stab wire has his little "bent part" standing up from the table, you will get this god forsaken rubbing.

Newer revisions of I:C keyboards come with the "flat" Costar wire, Switchtop is also selling those with flat wires.

The only other solution is to carve out a thin layer on the inside of the keycap - as you did.