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Title: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (MassDrop Poll Added!!)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Sun, 19 March 2017, 22:30:38
4/23/17 -
Whats going on guys, so I think I have mostly finalized the kits, and have gotten them down to a price that I would consider reasonable and have now opened a MassDrop poll to gain interest. I have changed up the Non-Standard Modifier kit a bit, to hopefully lower the price a bit, while trying to not lose too many keys. I have added two kits to try and accommodate more layouts (Blanks and Spacebar), so check those out and let me know what you guys think.

MASSDROP POLL
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/DSA-Freshly-Minted (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/DSA-Freshly-Minted)

4/6/17 -
So I come to you guys with some good news. Thank all of you guys for taking my survey, I took a lot of feedback from it. I added more keys to the non standard modifier pack (HHKB, MiniVan, FCC660C) but also had to make some compromises.

Summary of changes to kit

Pricing
I have contacted Melissa from Signature Plastic for a quote and have gotten a response and the pricing is looking pretty solid so far. The only thing that might worry me is the non-standard kit seems a bit high, so that kit might have to be re-done.
(http://i.imgur.com/gNLEcLU.png)

SURVEY
https://goo.gl/forms/50rsu4VzW2AB12Su1 (https://goo.gl/forms/50rsu4VzW2AB12Su1)


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Hi all, here is an interest check for a Midnight & Mint type keyset (dark grey/blue & mint).
I was looking at my phone one day (Nextbit Robin) and really liked the design and colors of it. That color combo has been one of my favorites, and was wondering if there were others out there too.

This is just an interest check to see if enough people like the colors, and also if people are okay with the colors, ex. it doesn't look too much like HyperFuse or LightCycle.

I personally think the mods definitely look a bit like HyperFuse but I am not a big fan of the purple for that set, but I'd love to get a discussion going on this.

So without further adieu...

DSA Freshly Minted

Regular TKL (Regular Alphas + TKL Modifier kit + Mint Accent Kit)
(http://i.imgur.com/GNkKP1b.png)

Midnight TKL (Midnight Alphas + TKL Modifier Kit + Mint Accent Kit)
(http://i.imgur.com/MVzy5PV.png)

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Regular Alphas
(http://i.imgur.com/IBDDraK.png)

Midnight Alphas
(http://i.imgur.com/gA3pc2C.png)

TKL Modifier Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/ITWKOMO.png)

Fruity Accent Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/1080dZv.png)

Numpad Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/pgasku4.png)

Planck Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/zYjjeC4.png)

Non-Standard Modifier Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/mAmwvI2.png)

ISO Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/pzO9oSC.png)

Blank Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/0gixtEQ.png)

Space Bar Kit
(http://i.imgur.com/K1vyYg4.png)


TODO
- Pick a profile
- Experiment with the colors
- Make specialty kits like ISO, Tsangan/Whitefox, 1800, Dvorak/Colemak.
- Make International and UK kits
- Make alternative color kits
- Make Novelties?
- Collect community suggestions
- Get info on pricing
- Start Massdrop Poll
- Pick a date to start
- Pick a Group Buy Place
- Run it
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Sun, 19 March 2017, 22:35:02
Log

3/19/17 - Created initial interest check for the color way
3/21/17 - Created child kits
3/22/17 - Changed Midnight alphas kit, to have ability to fully midnight a TKL
4/6/17 - Scraped Ergodox Kit & Mint Accent Kit. Added Fruity Accent Kit. Added some keys in non-standard pack to have more layouts filled(HHKB, Minivan) Name will be DSA Freshly Minted, hoping to go with MassDrop or PMK set of the month.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 19 March 2017, 22:40:09
i really like it but there are so many dark blue sets right now

also DCS??
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:02:49
Quote from: Puddsy on Sun, 19 March 2017, 22:40:09

also DCS??

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:04:38
Quote from: Niomosy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:02:49
Quote from: Puddsy on Sun, 19 March 2017, 22:40:09

also DCS??

Show Image
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif)


im gonna do this in every thread until someone runs a DCS buy again

frankly i might just do it myself at this point
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:08:42
Quote from: Puddsy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:04:38
Quote from: Niomosy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:02:49
Quote from: Puddsy on Sun, 19 March 2017, 22:40:09

also DCS??

Show Image
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif)


im gonna do this in every thread until someone runs a DCS buy again

frankly i might just do it myself at this point
What happened with DCS?

Im not opposed to changing profiles however I don't think it would look good in SA, I'm down for other suggestions though.

Sent from my Robin using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:08:49
Quote from: Puddsy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:04:38
Quote from: Niomosy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:02:49
Quote from: Puddsy on Sun, 19 March 2017, 22:40:09

also DCS??

Show Image
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif)


im gonna do this in every thread until someone runs a DCS buy again

frankly i might just do it myself at this point

You'll most likely get interest if it's an appealing colorway (with some requests to turn it into GMK instead).  It's just entertaining listening to some on hear rant about DCS like it's the keycap profile that kicked their puppy or such.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:12:08
Quote from: CampAsAChamp on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:08:42
What happened with DCS?

Im not opposed to changing profiles however I don't think it would look good in SA, I'm down for other suggestions though.

GMK got cheaper and lowered their MOQ

Quote from: Niomosy on Mon, 20 March 2017, 00:08:49
You'll most likely get interest if it's an appealing colorway (with some requests to turn it into GMK instead).  It's just entertaining listening to some on hear rant about DCS like it's the keycap profile that kicked their puppy or such.

i ****ing love dcs and everyone gets their panties in a twist about it

can be had for similar prices to JTK with proper legends and a much faster turnaround
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:05:48
This looks like royal navy with a different return keycap.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Ouhei on Mon, 20 March 2017, 08:35:38
This is a good looking set and I'm all for more DSA sets coming around. I assume these would be ABS since SP can't do double-shot PBT?
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Omnipotent on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:13:24
I'm really digging the colors on this. I've already got a lot of DSA sets but I am still pretty interested.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:20:23
Quote from: Ouhei on Mon, 20 March 2017, 08:35:38
This is a good looking set and I'm all for more DSA sets coming around. I assume these would be ABS since SP can't do double-shot PBT?
If I had it my way I'd definitely go PBT, but yea if it were to go DSA it would be double shot ABS.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: SuperVan on Mon, 20 March 2017, 15:22:39
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/d66fb1fb873d5a708ddec2c2e80bf3c3.jpg)u can change ur design. cyan looks much better on base legend.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/243b7b7ae086ad3e69758ae1e8e64d75.jpg)

通过我的 ONEPLUS A3010 上的 Tapatalk发言

Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 20 March 2017, 15:29:52
At the risk of backlash, I too would be down for DCS...

Mind you I'm a fan of most profiles
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: Maybee on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:15:59
I can really dig this set.

I'm hooked on it as is.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 20 March 2017, 19:31:18
I really really like this set, but the profile is up for question.

If this set has a nice ErgoDox child set, I think it should be DSA.
Otherwise, I could really see this in DCS or GMK. I agree this shouldn't be a SA set.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Feedback needed | Child Kits Added)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Tue, 21 March 2017, 12:01:42
Hi all, just wanted to update you guys that I have added some child kits, so if you guys could let me know how they are so far, and what keys should stay/add and which ones should go.

Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Feedback needed | Child Kits Added)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 00:15:20
ooh, oldschool with the kits

i like

accent kit should also come in tsangan but aside from that, i dig
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Feedback needed | Child Kits Added)
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 19:02:47
Honestly, I dig those midnight alphas. 
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Feedback needed | Child Kits Added)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Wed, 22 March 2017, 22:24:47
Quote from: Puddsy on Wed, 22 March 2017, 00:15:20
ooh, oldschool with the kits

i like

accent kit should also come in tsangan but aside from that, i dig

My first set was Jukebox back in the day, and I really liked how he set up the kits, because it made it super affordable to those like me who use a 60% (Out the door $70). So hopefully I can do a similar thing, but SP's prices have gotten disgusting in the past few months, and getting a keyset from them under $100 seems like a pipe dream now.

and I'll definitely try and add in the mint Tsangan kit
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Please take survey)
Post by: waqar on Thu, 23 March 2017, 11:52:44
Icon modifiers will go well with arrow keys. Also Mac ⌘ and ⌥ keys would be nice.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Please take survey)
Post by: _rubik on Fri, 24 March 2017, 15:48:52
Are we set on stem type? Part of me is itching for this to run with Alps stems. I feel like the market is in need of a good alps set.

.... just an idea
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Please take survey)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Fri, 24 March 2017, 16:16:27
Quote from: _rubik on Fri, 24 March 2017, 15:48:52
Are we set on stem type? Part of me is itching for this to run with Alps stems. I feel like the market is in need of a good alps set.

.... just an idea
Eh I don't know.
Seeing as how the Light Cycle Alps didn't do amazing I'm very hesitant to do anything other than MX.

I know the kits are different but still I just don't think there is a big market for Alps.

If you can find me ~75 buyers then I'll definitely give it a shot.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Please take survey)
Post by: _rubik on Fri, 24 March 2017, 21:33:13
I won't touch light cycle because I simply hate sets that are all or nothing. Optional sets are great because you can buy what you need. So you got that going for you  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Please take survey)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Thu, 06 April 2017, 14:49:06
Hey guys have a big update for you all, as I have changed some kits due to feedback from the survey, and have also settled on the name, profile, and purchasing place.

I have also contacted Melissa from SP to get a quote for pricing and it seems pretty solid, just might be worried about the non-standard kit.
(http://i.imgur.com/gNLEcLU.png)

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Overall very happy with how this set is turning out and can't wait to see what the future holds.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Kits Updated and Added Pricing)
Post by: Bob on Mon, 10 April 2017, 22:21:29
Sorry if I'm a bit late to the party, but if you're worried about looking too much like other sets, mignight alphas have this looking a lot like DSA Earfbound: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75881.0;topicseen

The comment made about the white alphas making this seem similar to DSA Royal Navy seems valid too. Maybe do alphas with dark blue legends on mint coloured caps, and have a spearmint kit that adds some green somewhere? Peppermint=blue, spearmint=green :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Kits Updated and Added Pricing)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Tue, 11 April 2017, 20:28:46
Quote from: Bob on Mon, 10 April 2017, 22:21:29
Sorry if I'm a bit late to the party, but if you're worried about looking too much like other sets, mignight alphas have this looking a lot like DSA Earfbound: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75881.0;topicseen

The comment made about the white alphas making this seem similar to DSA Royal Navy seems valid too. Maybe do alphas with dark blue legends on mint coloured caps, and have a spearmint kit that adds some green somewhere? Peppermint=blue, spearmint=green :thumb:

Man picking the colors is a lot harder than I thought. My original idea was to have mint base with dark alphas, but a lot of people said it would look too much like Jukebox, and they were right because I think it might have been the same color chip. So now people want that back so I can't seem to please everybody.

Thanks for the feedback though
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Kits Updated and Added Pricing)
Post by: Bob on Wed, 12 April 2017, 00:57:23
I guess at a certain point it starts getting hard to make a set that doesn't include a similar keycap or legend colour somewhere - There's only so many combinations you can go with, so just go with what feels right :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Kits Updated and Added Pricing)
Post by: r4wromg on Wed, 12 April 2017, 01:25:00
Really like the colors on this set, plus I've been waiting for another DSA set. Definitely in on this!
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Kits Updated and Added Pricing)
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 13 April 2017, 19:56:27
Damn, DSA AND no ergodox. This set lost most of its interest to me.   :(
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (Kits Updated and Added Pricing)
Post by: shadowness on Sat, 15 April 2017, 07:05:50
please make this happen! looking great!
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (MassDrop Poll Added!!)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Sun, 23 April 2017, 22:05:19
Hey guys, another update, I changed the Non-Standard kit and added a Blank kit and a Space Bar kit.

Also created a MassDrop poll, so please go vote on it

MASSDROP POLL
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/DSA-Freshly-Minted (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/DSA-Freshly-Minted)

Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (MassDrop Poll Added!!)
Post by: joelfong on Sun, 23 April 2017, 22:33:23
Looks great! Just voted on massdrop. Excited for it!
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (MassDrop Poll Added!!)
Post by: heliar_mk on Sat, 22 July 2017, 20:47:24
Any Update？ Hope the ergo kit could be added. :p
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (MassDrop Poll Added!!)
Post by: CampAsAChamp on Sun, 23 July 2017, 17:29:28
Quote from: heliar_mk on Sat, 22 July 2017, 20:47:24
Any Update？ Hope the ergo kit could be added. :p

Don't know if I am going to run it, as the MassDrop poll wasn't as successful as I thought it would be. There have also been a lot of sets that have came out recently that look similar to this one. So unless the demand for this set is very high I think I am going to sit on it for a bit and see how everything shakes out.

I also don't know how I am going to run it, as I am not equipped to run this myself I don't think.
Title: Re: [IC] DSA Freshly Minted (MassDrop Poll Added!!)
Post by: MigZm on Sat, 12 August 2017, 16:24:09
Quote from: CampAsAChamp on Sun, 23 July 2017, 17:29:28
Quote from: heliar_mk on Sat, 22 July 2017, 20:47:24
Any Update？ Hope the ergo kit could be added. :p

Don't know if I am going to run it, as the MassDrop poll wasn't as successful as I thought it would be. There have also been a lot of sets that have came out recently that look similar to this one. So unless the demand for this set is very high I think I am going to sit on it for a bit and see how everything shakes out.

I also don't know how I am going to run it, as I am not equipped to run this myself I don't think.

No luck? Just came across and loved it.