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Title: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 29 March 2017, 01:09:33
Every thread I read these days seems to have turned into 'Does it fit holtites?' and general Brassplate fap talk...

What happend, will it be full chrome all ez snap boards soon?
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 29 March 2017, 01:40:48
Holtite cause it sounds like "hold tight", hold me senpai
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: adamcobabe on Wed, 29 March 2017, 01:46:27
"Get off my lawn you kids with your holtites and brass plates." Is asking if something is the new circle jerk this year's circle jerk? Relax.
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: anorak on Wed, 29 March 2017, 02:01:36
Copper plates are the next big thing for 2018
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 02:16:40
Holtites are great for people who're unsure if they would like the switches they're planning to use, or just to keep the resale value of certain customs high. Brass plates on the other hand....
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: fanpeople on Wed, 29 March 2017, 02:44:20
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Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 10:22:21
Not a fan of holtites for switches but I am a fan of them for leds

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Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:02:26
Not the circlejerk, I don't see them on reddit enough.
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:34:31
I like brass..  but the way that they're implemented in keyboards is just a huge waste of material and machining time..
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:39:59
Brass plates will be interesting. I hope mine feels good when I try it :eek:
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: nmur on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:47:38
i'm out of the loop with these fancy holtites

how stable are they for switches? is a plate mounted switch secure enough?

how stable are they for LEDs? how do they compare to sip sockets?

if you can already remove switch tops after soldering i can't imagine too much benefit for switch holtites apart from not having to solder. however having to line up sip sockets for soldering is a pain so i can imagine it being useful for LEDs
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: DuckNorris on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:19:34
I don't even know what Holtites and Brassplates are... I guess I am not part of the GH cool cats.  :'(
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: ChitownM2 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:27:18
Waiting on my first order to see how well I like the holtites.
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 March 2017, 13:38:53
i'm out of the loop with these fancy holtites

how stable are they for switches? is a plate mounted switch secure enough?

how stable are they for LEDs? how do they compare to sip sockets?

if you can already remove switch tops after soldering i can't imagine too much benefit for switch holtites apart from not having to solder. however having to line up sip sockets for soldering is a pain so i can imagine it being useful for LEDs

They do absolutely NOTHING..


It's the same exact thing if you took a brick, and duct-taped it to your keyboard.
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: nmur on Wed, 29 March 2017, 13:43:04
i'm out of the loop with these fancy holtites

how stable are they for switches? is a plate mounted switch secure enough?

how stable are they for LEDs? how do they compare to sip sockets?

if you can already remove switch tops after soldering i can't imagine too much benefit for switch holtites apart from not having to solder. however having to line up sip sockets for soldering is a pain so i can imagine it being useful for LEDs

They do absolutely NOTHING..


It's the same exact thing if you took a brick, and duct-taped it to your keyboard.

nothing, as in they feel and operate exactly the same way as soldering your switches feel like?
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 March 2017, 13:56:04
i'm out of the loop with these fancy holtites

how stable are they for switches? is a plate mounted switch secure enough?

how stable are they for LEDs? how do they compare to sip sockets?

if you can already remove switch tops after soldering i can't imagine too much benefit for switch holtites apart from not having to solder. however having to line up sip sockets for soldering is a pain so i can imagine it being useful for LEDs

They do absolutely NOTHING..


It's the same exact thing if you took a brick, and duct-taped it to your keyboard.

nothing, as in they feel and operate exactly the same way as soldering your switches feel like?

I didn't read your post..

thought you were talking about the brass plates.

Holtites don't feel any different.. 

It's not mechanically as stable,   but we're not actually killing zombies with our keyboards.
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 29 March 2017, 14:00:31
Holtites are just not as useful as they seem,  and given the asking price it's totally not worth it..


I remember people buying sockets for their Opamp collections on DACs..  I knew many of the ee-student buddies of mine got into that.. 

But almost all of them eventually agreed that it was pointless, because While swapping out opamps is now possible.. It's just of no practical use, and a hassle..


This was for 1 or 2 opamps..   now multiply and extract 87 switches..     You'd probably do it once or twice,  then NEVER again..

But it costs $50 to even go through this..    WHY bother. ??

Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: kiwi99 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 14:05:16
Holtites are just not as useful as they seem,  and given the asking price it's totally not worth it..


I remember people buying sockets for their Opamp collections on DACs..  I knew many of the ee-student buddies of mine got into that.. 

But almost all of them eventually agreed that it was pointless, because While swapping out opamps is now possible.. It's just of no practical use, and a hassle..


This was for 1 or 2 opamps..   now multiply and extract 87 switches..     You'd probably do it once or twice,  then NEVER again..

But it costs $50 to even go through this..    WHY bother. ??

yea completely this, I would way rather spend that extra money on an extra pcb+plate combo if you're really worried about switchin it up down the line.. or you know, just desolder..
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: nmur on Wed, 29 March 2017, 14:10:46
Holtites are just not as useful as they seem,  and given the asking price it's totally not worth it..


I remember people buying sockets for their Opamp collections on DACs..  I knew many of the ee-student buddies of mine got into that.. 

But almost all of them eventually agreed that it was pointless, because While swapping out opamps is now possible.. It's just of no practical use, and a hassle..


This was for 1 or 2 opamps..   now multiply and extract 87 switches..     You'd probably do it once or twice,  then NEVER again..

But it costs $50 to even go through this..    WHY bother. ??

yea completely this, I would way rather spend that extra money on an extra pcb+plate combo if you're really worried about switchin it up down the line.. or you know, just desolder..

woa are they really that expensive

perhaps they are for the noobies who are terrified of soldering anything

just buy 400($?) holtites for a TKL with LEDs and your build is now a lego build
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: kiwi99 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 14:12:56
Holtites are just not as useful as they seem,  and given the asking price it's totally not worth it..


I remember people buying sockets for their Opamp collections on DACs..  I knew many of the ee-student buddies of mine got into that.. 

But almost all of them eventually agreed that it was pointless, because While swapping out opamps is now possible.. It's just of no practical use, and a hassle..


This was for 1 or 2 opamps..   now multiply and extract 87 switches..     You'd probably do it once or twice,  then NEVER again..

But it costs $50 to even go through this..    WHY bother. ??

yea completely this, I would way rather spend that extra money on an extra pcb+plate combo if you're really worried about switchin it up down the line.. or you know, just desolder..

woa are they really that expensive

perhaps they are for the noobies who are terrified of soldering anything

just buy 400($?) holtites for a TKL with LEDs and your build is now a lego build


I thought you need to solder the holtites in?


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Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: nmur on Wed, 29 March 2017, 14:16:42
Holtites are just not as useful as they seem,  and given the asking price it's totally not worth it..


I remember people buying sockets for their Opamp collections on DACs..  I knew many of the ee-student buddies of mine got into that.. 

But almost all of them eventually agreed that it was pointless, because While swapping out opamps is now possible.. It's just of no practical use, and a hassle..


This was for 1 or 2 opamps..   now multiply and extract 87 switches..     You'd probably do it once or twice,  then NEVER again..

But it costs $50 to even go through this..    WHY bother. ??

yea completely this, I would way rather spend that extra money on an extra pcb+plate combo if you're really worried about switchin it up down the line.. or you know, just desolder..

woa are they really that expensive

perhaps they are for the noobies who are terrified of soldering anything

just buy 400($?) holtites for a TKL with LEDs and your build is now a lego build


I thought you need to solder the holtites in?


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You stick them in the holes of your PCB, and then can seat switches without soldering. This makes the switches removable, so you can change them without desoldering. A different model exists that is the correct size for LEDs.

from here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87127.0)

EDIT: wait a sec that doesn't exactly say you don't have to solder the holtites themselves
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: digi on Wed, 29 March 2017, 14:19:51
(https://memecreator.org/static/images/memes/4507085.jpg)

Guilty as charged, LZ CLS inbound boys.
Title: Re: Are Holtites and Brassplates the new circle jerk of 2017?
Post by: davkol on Wed, 29 March 2017, 16:27:06
I thought the brass in Korean customs was stupid before it was cool.