Ok. I just checked the internals. I think the springs are also very little different in length and look on the edges. Or?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/952615b80e82cbddb220af88f1aba6cc.jpg)
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Not sure what you mean with leaf springs. I only know of this one big springOk. I just checked the internals. I think the springs are also very little different in length and look on the edges. Or?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/952615b80e82cbddb220af88f1aba6cc.jpg)
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hahaha
the springs are known to be different between batches/ even within batches..
Instead, Check the leaf springs with a caliper, they should be 100% consistent.
careful not to pinch the round part.
Not sure what you mean with leaf springs. I only know of this one big springOk. I just checked the internals. I think the springs are also very little different in length and look on the edges. Or?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/952615b80e82cbddb220af88f1aba6cc.jpg)
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hahaha
the springs are known to be different between batches/ even within batches..
Instead, Check the leaf springs with a caliper, they should be 100% consistent.
careful not to pinch the round part.
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I've seen several variations on the logo, but something I never noticed was that the "A" on the left switch in your picture is upside down.
Going to have to check that on some others now, too.
I've seen several variations on the logo, but something I never noticed was that the "A" on the left switch in your picture is upside down.
Going to have to check that on some others now, too.
oh whoa, that's weird
good eye
I've seen several variations on the logo, but something I never noticed was that the "A" on the left switch in your picture is upside down.
Going to have to check that on some others now, too.
oh whoa, that's weird
good eye
It is odd. I just checked my small collection of vintage and modern Cherry switches and none of them have the upside down "A". But I don't have any of the new-new ones, with the new stems, at the moment either.
OP, were both stems the same on those? I'm wondering if it has something to do with the info in this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88031.0
Ok i took them apart and here are some pics of the sliders. They seem to be the same on the side but sifferent on the back(or front, whichever you define front or back. The opening is bigger on the 7bit switch whereas on the winkeyless it has this "window" shaped back(see second picture for comparison)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/dce7e70c0ce4813f285e34157d31997e.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/d4461fd1d00d5229a6b18b689839d962.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/4d8fb5e02ec4532b7544f6501800d7f5.jpg)
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Done. It's not like the back of the switch makes a difference. They might have widened the opening at some point... ?Ok i took them apart and here are some pics of the sliders. They seem to be the same on the side but sifferent on the back(or front, whichever you define front or back. The opening is bigger on the 7bit switch whereas on the winkeyless it has this "window" shaped back(see second picture for comparison)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/dce7e70c0ce4813f285e34157d31997e.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/d4461fd1d00d5229a6b18b689839d962.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/4d8fb5e02ec4532b7544f6501800d7f5.jpg)
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Send an email to Cherry .. ask them if these are counterfeits.
Oh wow some kids and and a macro camera and suddenly everything is possible.
I have never heard about MX Brown counterfeit switches. Cherry did issue a warning for counterfeit switches but they had yellow stems afaik.
http://blog.cherry.de/news/cherry-mx-yellow-sind-fake/ (http://blog.cherry.de/news/cherry-mx-yellow-sind-fake/)
There's not one single machine that makes the switches at Cherry, MX Browns have been made for over two decades now and i guess the production capacity has been upgraded and replaced over time leading to minor differences in the production tools.
Recently I got a brand new batch of MX Clear switches in the original Cherry box and did an in depth comparison with older MX clears of various vintage. Turns you find sliders with tiny differences in brand new as well as in the highly regarded old batches. There is also some vintage black science going on judging their sliders by the orientation of the cutout in the cross-stem. 7bit and wkl.kr both are legit sources for switches and there's no reason to believe these are counterfeit. Especially considering the Cherry patent has expired a while ago and anyone is free to make clones under their own brand name.
Hi Peter,
would it be possible to send me the switches for an analysis? Don't worry, you will get them back.
Thanks,
Michael (PR Manager Cherry)
When you say "winkeyless", do you mean an actual Cherry keyboard? I'd be surprised if Cherry used fake switches, and I'd be surprised if 7bit had obtained stocks of fake switches. I would of course like more clarity about 7bit's purchases, as I want to know precisely when he bought these:
I don't know how this applies to RGB MX Blues, but the RGB Blues on the Ducky Shine 6 (and YOTM) are the NICEST RGB blues I've ever seen. I don't know how many of you have new batches of blues/RGB Blues, but you really have to try them. They feel like a completely different manufacturer made the switch, even in comparison to the inconsistent, scratchy, fluttery click RGB Blues on the iKBC F keyboards made last year...and they also feel more tactile and bouncy than both the regular blues and greens on my Ducky Fire 69.
It's probably as close as you'll get to the feel of a buckling spring from a Cherry switch.
1) the tactile bump is more defined than before.
2) there seems to be more resistance in spring weight.
3) the feel of the switch feels more robust (pressing, recoil)
4) the click is deeper pitched and tighter, with far less flutter than older switches (Not every switch is perfect though).
It's literally night and day comparing my Shine 6 vs my iKBC F108.
The iKBC (both of them) were assembled 08/2016 according to the serial# and a stamp on the PCB, but God knows when the switches were produced on it. They're much worse than the Shine 6's blue switches, and Ducky told me that Cherry "improved their manufacturing of blues recently."
Yeah, that's the logo I had on one of my MX blue switches. I had more or less assumed that the new molds were made with this logo on them.
(Attachment Link)I don't think the switches with thinner font are counterfeits because my Filco is almost full of them.
Different logo.
Ctrl and Alt are printed incorrectly — FAKE!
How old is that Filco keyboard, anyway?
The far side of the top of each slider is interesting, too — some sort of little recess.
Ctrl and Alt are printed incorrectly — FAKE!Not sure if this irony/sarcasm whatevs but I reversed the caps that's why they are printed 'that way.' Btw I reversed the whole bottom row because this OEM profile is absurdly high. Wth.
How old is that Filco keyboard, anyway?
The far side of the top of each slider is interesting, too — some sort of little recess.
Approximate age is fine, no need to go to the grief of getting a Filco keyboard apart. I'm just curious how it fits in with the new Cherry logo in 2012.Well you'll have to direct me here 'cause I can't find a date on the box and I have no idea how much time did this board spend in whatever storehouse my Japanese proxy kept it before he sold it to me.
When did you get it?January 2017.
Oh, that recently … See, I'd expect to see these switches going all the way back to 2012 and beyond.Damn, I suspected that it was underpriced but I thought it was because of the ping. Alright now I'm definitely going to open this board. Tomorrow though /night
How old is that Filco keyboard, anyway?I'm new to mkb so I'll just post the pics and let you guys draw your conclusions.
The controller IC should also be dated — that little PCB will come out and the ICs are on the other side, surface mounted.(http://i.imgur.com/To75FeQ.jpg)