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Title: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Encabulator on Mon, 03 April 2017, 21:55:37
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32782793455.html?src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&albcp=757040619&albag=43596766921&slnk=&trgt=87981925924&plac=&crea=en32782793455&netw=g&device=m&mtctp=&gclid=Cj0KEQjw5YfHBRDzjNnioYq3_swBEiQArj4pdCtQh4mDlIu3MCpWdGUrt-CGagdbOV29jQJ4AnqdW4YaAtmb8P8HAQ

I'm looking for a nice set of keycaps for my poker and I really like the simple color scheme of these (and they're not DSA!)


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Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 April 2017, 22:43:25
it shouldn't be any worse than any oem

Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:05:27
looks like lasered legends

stay away
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: opensecret on Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:20:35
looks like lasered legends

stay away

Product description says PBT double-shot, and I'd guess that's accurate.  Did you check the key size chart for alignment with your Poker? 

My experience is that the Chinese PBT keycaps are pretty good for the price.
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:27:30
looks like lasered legends

stay away

Product description says PBT double-shot, and I'd guess that's accurate.  Did you check the key size chart for alignment with your Poker? 

My experience is that the Chinese PBT keycaps are pretty good for the price.

No way those are double shot, those legends are 100% lasered.
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: klennkellon on Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:32:43
looks like lasered legends

stay away

Product description says PBT double-shot, and I'd guess that's accurate.  Did you check the key size chart for alignment with your Poker? 

My experience is that the Chinese PBT keycaps are pretty good for the price.

No way those are double shot, those legends are 100% lasered.

I have to agree. It's way too fuzzy and grey to be doubleshot. Also why would you ever make doubleshots for side-printed keycaps?
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 04 April 2017, 00:03:51
looks like lasered legends

stay away

Product description says PBT double-shot, and I'd guess that's accurate.  Did you check the key size chart for alignment with your Poker? 

My experience is that the Chinese PBT keycaps are pretty good for the price.

i see that it says doubleshot

but look at the picture and tell me those are doubleshot

and you can't doubleshot side print anyway
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: opensecret on Tue, 04 April 2017, 00:31:29

I have to agree. It's way too fuzzy and grey to be doubleshot. Also why would you ever make doubleshots for side-printed keycaps?

The caps give you a choice of side or top-printed, and  colors are different on the black, red and light gray keys.  I can't really judge from the photos online, but it's possible the printing process isn't the same on the different color keys.  The light gray keys with gray legends look to me like the best candidates for laser printing.
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 04 April 2017, 00:59:45
it's possible the printing process isn't the same on the different color keys.

Nah, they're all lasered, zoom in on the pictures.

Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 April 2017, 04:06:42
just click contact seller on the left and ask them
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Targa-TV on Tue, 04 April 2017, 04:09:22
If you follow the link to the ISO set (https://aliexpress.com/store/product/Cool-Jazz-Black-Light-Gray-mixed-Dolch-Thick-PBT-ANSI-ISO-layout-104-87-61-Keycap/1806079_32796632601.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.4d5e4D) it looks exactly the same from the pictures, and the ISO set has a very big closeup on a couple of keys so you can get a better look.

BTW you could always ask for a picture of upside down caps. Since this is a three-color set ask for a sample of every color and make sure to specify the model (CJ-010 mentions double shot and CJ-016 doesn't).

If they don't reply within tot working days you have your answer.
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Buyeisking on Fri, 07 April 2017, 04:26:08
This 's not doubt shot ,definitely it's lasered legends.. i know this keycap 's Manufacturer in China

i don't recommend this OEM profile ,because Touch feeling is tough. i don't like it ..

You can try Cherry profile keycap set

Although it's lasered legends too.it's side print ,your typying finger don't  touch the legends .no worry about the legend 's wear out in a long period of time.

This keycaps is PBT ,but this PBT is different with other tough PBT,touch like ABS.but it's turely PBT keycaps.

i am using this keycap now write this  post .. :D

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Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Soo8 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 09:10:40
I have a set of these in a different colour. The pbt plastic itself is quite good. They are fairly thin though, backlight easily shines through. My set's spacebar is a bit warped, I had trouble with binding on plate mount cherry stabilizers. The surface finish is quite rough and grainy even by pbt standards. The fit of most caps is pretty loose on Gaterons and unbearable on my Novatouch, I had a few cases where a cap came off in use. Legends are defo lasered. Overall my opinion is not great, it's better to get an enjoyPBT set. Those are thicker, lower cherry profile, the fitment is correct and they overall feel nicer.
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: dantan on Sat, 08 April 2017, 11:21:07
Hello, you are talking on geekhack where very few people buy $22 keycap sets.

To 90% of the people here, the quality will be described as poor.

If you talk to normal people outside, the kind who buy Razer and Corsair and praise the build, I'm sure they will say these keycaps are excellent.

Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: rasmusx on Sat, 08 April 2017, 13:42:36
I ordered similar ones, but dark grey version. Can review how they are when I get them.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cool-Jazz-Black-Gray-mixed-Dolch-Thick-PBT-ANSI-ISO-layout-104-87-61-Keycaps-OEM/32796875505.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cool-Jazz-Black-Gray-mixed-Dolch-Thick-PBT-ANSI-ISO-layout-104-87-61-Keycaps-OEM/32796875505.html)
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: falkentyne on Sat, 08 April 2017, 19:08:40
Not everyone here is rich.  I sure am not.  And I buy $18 keycaps...
Don't assume this is an elitist exclusive forum club for rich privileged people.
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: dantan on Sat, 08 April 2017, 20:06:02
Not everyone here is rich.  I sure am not.  And I buy $18 keycaps...
Don't assume this is an elitist exclusive forum club for rich privileged people.

He's asking questions and that deserves good answers.

You may buy $18 keycap sets, but most people here talk ranges like $120 and up, or spend $200 for just one keycap.

Anybody would be confused and start thinking that his $22 keycaps aren't good enough for 'the experts'.

If all he's looking for are keycaps that will more or less look the same in 5 years, without shining and without breakage at the stem and with the legends not wearing off, $22 keycaps will be ok.

Just don't expect favorable views from the folks who spend $800 and up on a custom board and $250+ on a keycap set.
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: atarione on Sat, 08 April 2017, 20:56:23
giving the seller the benefit of the doubt.. and all..

they seem to sell a lot of different key cap sets.. probably have templates for the sales info.. I bet they made a mistake and listed these as double shots..   I'm guessing English is quite probably a 2nd or 3rd language for the seller also??

I'd probably ask the seller if the double shot information is correct or not?? or for clarification / pictures of the back side of the caps... I wish they'd include these for any key caps for sale?.. basically everyone is going to want a shot of the back side of the caps right??

if the OP wants the side prints I don't see a problem w/ these.. quite inexpensive..  probably not the last word in quality but they look pretty good.

I'm rocking massdrop $22 Vortex double shots on my Filco.

Title: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Encabulator on Sun, 09 April 2017, 08:43:46
Woops
Title: Re: Does anyone know the quality of these keycaps?
Post by: Targa-TV on Sun, 09 April 2017, 12:37:06
they seem to sell a lot of different key cap sets.. probably have templates for the sales info.. I bet they made a mistake and listed these as double shots..   I'm guessing English is quite probably a 2nd or 3rd language for the seller also??
They do have written templates for the descriptions and stock images for the shipping process and refund explanations.

I'd probably ask the seller if the double shot information is correct or not?? or for clarification / pictures of the back side of the caps... I wish they'd include these for any key caps for sale?.. basically everyone is going to want a shot of the back side of the caps right??

I also wondered about that but I guess that if you don't really care about your board's aesthetics, or about a certain shade or texture, or about the types of legends, then you wouldn't know/care about what kind of information would an upside down cap show either, so you wouldn't ask for a picture.