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Title: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: moh18one on Tue, 04 April 2017, 18:16:38: Hi,

I've heard that the sliders from the Type S have the same length as the Purple. Can someone confirm that ? ;D
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: sony on Tue, 04 April 2017, 18:29:55: I don't believe they do. If I remember correctly, the type s has a travel distance of 3.8mm while silenced realforces maintain the 4mm. So I believe that the type s sliders are the same as the regular topre slider but with the added foam.

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Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: Polymer on Wed, 05 April 2017, 01:52:29: I think there have been posts showing them with longer sliders as well...
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 05 April 2017, 02:41:36: Quote from: ultraidiot on Tue, 04 April 2017, 18:29:55
I don't believe they do. If I remember correctly, the type s has a travel distance of 3.8mm while silenced realforces maintain the 4mm. So I believe that the type s sliders are the same as the regular topre slider but with the added foam.

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I have both the regular sliders and the type s sliders, and I can confirm that the type s sliders are longer. This is even more evident if you install them on the same keyboard - I had the misfortune of doing so and immediately realized that my 'a' key is shorter than its neighboring keys.

I should measure both the purple sliders and the type-s sliders one day though, will need to take them apart again to do so...
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: sony on Wed, 05 April 2017, 03:32:44: Quote from: Polymer on Wed, 05 April 2017, 01:52:29
I think there have been posts showing them with longer sliders as well...

The type-s having longer sliders? or the purple sliders being longer? This post from hypersphere says that they are not. The purple sliders are longer as stated in the post, so you are correct if that is what you meant. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86117.msg2312632#msg2312632
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: Geroximo on Wed, 05 April 2017, 07:41:50: This was already discussed and the Type S sliders are proven to be longer.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86554.0;attach=156535;image)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86554.msg2325712#msg2325712
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 05 April 2017, 08:20:34: Hi I would like to delete my account.
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: romevi on Wed, 05 April 2017, 08:43:40: Quote from: Geroximo on Wed, 05 April 2017, 07:41:50
This was already discussed and the Type S sliders are proven to be longer.
Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86554.0;attach=156535;image)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86554.msg2325712#msg2325712

Wait, what? I thought it was the purple sliders that are longer?
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: Polymer on Wed, 05 April 2017, 16:12:32: Quote from: romevi on Wed, 05 April 2017, 08:43:40

Quote from: Geroximo on Wed, 05 April 2017, 07:41:50
This was already discussed and the Type S sliders are proven to be longer.
Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86554.0;attach=156535;image)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86554.msg2325712#msg2325712

Wait, what? I thought it was the purple sliders that are longer?

They are..the purple sliders are on a RF...the HHKB Type-S, at least in many versions of it, use a similar longer slider that is black.
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: romevi on Wed, 05 April 2017, 20:33:49: Quote from: Polymer on Wed, 05 April 2017, 16:12:32
Quote from: romevi on Wed, 05 April 2017, 08:43:40

Quote from: Geroximo on Wed, 05 April 2017, 07:41:50
This was already discussed and the Type S sliders are proven to be longer.
Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86554.0;attach=156535;image)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86554.msg2325712#msg2325712

Wait, what? I thought it was the purple sliders that are longer?

They are..the purple sliders are on a RF...the HHKB Type-S, at least in many versions of it, use a similar longer slider that is black.

Right. So I thought the purple sliders on a Realforce were longer.
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: sony on Wed, 05 April 2017, 20:42:55: Oh wow guess the type s sliders are longer. Now we need to get all 3 in one picture.

I have sourced all the sliders and will have an album in a week or so. Hopefully.

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Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: btctopre on Mon, 15 May 2017, 09:49:47: Quote from: ultraidiot on Wed, 05 April 2017, 20:42:55
Oh wow guess the type s sliders are longer. Now we need to get all 3 in one picture.

I have sourced all the sliders and will have an album in a week or so. Hopefully.
Any chance we can get an update on this? And if possible, could you post a comparison of the HHKB Type-S slider vs. the Realforce purple slider with both of them having their rings on? I (and I imagine many others) would greatly appreciate it.

Also, does anyone know if they've done anything about the stabilized keys on the HHKB Type-S (LShift, Enter)? The silenced Realforces use a different housing, slider, and a thicker-than-standard foam ring to achieve uniform travel distance, but afaik PFU has never attempted to replicate that in the Type-S.
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: robbles on Mon, 15 May 2017, 10:26:10: I've read in another thread that older Type-S boards had the exact same sliders and normal HHKB's. Type-S has longer sliders now though. It also appears from Hypersphere's photo that the horizontal base of the slider is also thinner, which helps correct key travel as well.
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: losing_ctrl on Tue, 16 May 2017, 07:44:16: I've got an HHKB Type-S that was manufactured in January of this year, and it's key travel is noticeably less than my purple slider RealForce 104U. So for full key travel with a stock silenced board, purple sliders are a must. If there is a special black type-s slider, I don't know why it wasn't made to provide the full 4.0 mm stroke. Why else would they bother making a different version if not for keeping the standard 4.0 mm stroke?
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: robbles on Tue, 16 May 2017, 13:31:10: Quote from: losing_ctrl on Tue, 16 May 2017, 07:44:16
I've got an HHKB Type-S that was manufactured in January of this year, and it's key travel is noticeably less than my purple slider RealForce 104U. So for full key travel with a stock silenced board, purple sliders are a must. If there is a special black type-s slider, I don't know why it wasn't made to provide the full 4.0 mm stroke. Why else would they bother making a different version if not for keeping the standard 4.0 mm stroke?

The Realforce could be a combo of slider AND plate to accommodate for the loss in travel though. I guess there is only one way to find out.
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: libertycannon on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:05:39: i dont ise sliders - i dod for a little while and felt it changed the feel of the board
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: the_marsbar on Wed, 06 June 2018, 02:57:27: Any update on this? I'd really like to see a comparison of the different versions of the Type-S sliders, since it seems like a change was implemented at some point.
Title: Re: HHKB Type S vs Purple Sliders
Post by: Nomcr on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:53:35: I've tried both of these sliders and personally didn't find that drastic of a difference to be honest. The purple sliders do have a nice aesthetic which I enjoy though.