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Title: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 03:14:02: Group-buy URL： https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89357.0

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[/url][url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88928.0][img width=231 height=120]https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DRpLTts/0/S/i-DRpLTts-S.jpg[/img][/url](https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Ocean-Dolch/n-RTpSx7/i-DRpLTts/0/L/i-DRpLTts-L.jpg)

Until now there are few SA version Dolch color keysets, in my memory, only Round 5 have grey and black keys which can be combined like a Dolch keyset. So, Based on GMK Ocean Dolch color scheme, I made a SA version Ocean Dolch.
In fact, I had already had this idea several monthes ago when Mama and I designed some novelties for blue keycaps, I love that ocean theme novelties so much, so I hope I can make a whole keyset to match them.
About the children kits, I only designed BASE (104+WKL) and OCEAN CYAN novelties. I don't want to make a universal layout for all keyboards, and don't want to wait that long for SA production queue. A universal layout keycaps IC always lasts too long to makes creaters and users exhausted, espicially in this special period.

Profile: SP SA
Design: Mama+hoq
GB time: May, 2017

(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Ocean-Dolch/n-RTpSx7/i-M73VDLt/1/bbf1f8a1/X3/i-M73VDLt-X3.png)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Ocean-Dolch/n-RTpSx7/i-GknzkVn/0/a0bd0ea7/2763x960/i-GknzkVn-2763x960.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-GbHg75m/0/X3/i-GbHg75m-X3.png)

Renders:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4cRJL43/0/X3/i-4cRJL43-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fwtG569/0/O/i-fwtG569.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-WjkJt3w/0/O/i-WjkJt3w.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-swfssmR/0/O/i-swfssmR.jpg)

inspiration:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XSW5jrs/0/O/i-XSW5jrs.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5xNsgvf/0/O/i-5xNsgvf.jpg)

About GMK Ocean Dolch, another amazing keyset, you may refer to the original IC thread for more information:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87564.0
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: SakeJams on Sun, 16 April 2017, 04:20:20: Count me in! :D
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sun, 16 April 2017, 04:28:20: Looks great!

I really like the novelties as it matches the theme very nicely. One thing: are you going to support HHKB layouts? And what about minimal ISO support?

I'm interested in it nonetheless.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: BlackyLuke on Sun, 16 April 2017, 06:26:58: Definitly interested

ISO Modifiers planned?
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: joelfong on Sun, 16 April 2017, 06:33:46: Looks good! Though I'm personally not a huge fan of those arrow keys. Seems to throw the whole keyset off balance for me. And as a few have already commented on, it might be good to have a basic ISO kit as well. Other than that, I look forward to seeing it go live. (:
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 16 April 2017, 07:08:04: No non-standard layout support aside from a WKL 7u bottom row (especially 65/75% and no 1800 support which is a cardinal sin considering original Dolch Pac keyboards are 1800 layout). There are also no ISO support available (even the most cursory minimum 4-key addition). I would much rather you get rid of the totally superfluous novelties and concentrate on actually giving people good layout support first.

Once the basic layout supports are taken care of THEN you can spend your efforts on things like accents and novelties. I don't understand how you didn't even do the most basic sweep of common layouts and ad support for them in this day and age, in order to make the set appeal to the broadest audience available. Most GMK and SA sets that has ran in the last 6 months has had excellent layout supports, there's no reason why you shouldn't at least spend a little time on making your set appealing to potential buyers.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: Shadowalker on Sun, 16 April 2017, 07:11:42: Had to make a GH account just to say how interested I am!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 07:47:45: ISO needs at least another 4keys I think.
and, HHKB layout needs another 3 keys: 1U "\|", 1u"backspace", 1.5u"delete".
Are they right?

I can add them in another little kit.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 16 April 2017, 09:06:55: Interested in this as well, but please get SA Mechanist up and going before this!!!!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: yulei on Sun, 16 April 2017, 09:46:36: Quote from: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 07:47:45
ISO needs at least another 4keys I think.
and, HHKB layout needs another 3 keys: 1U "\|", 1u"backspace", 1.5u"delete".
Are they right?

I can add them in another little kit.

HHKB need 1.75 r3 control instead of 1u backspace and please add a pair of Pgup/PgDw on r2/r3 or r3/r4 for minimal 65% support
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sun, 16 April 2017, 09:47:09: Why 112344? It seems like 112343 is more popular.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: zoomwalt on Sun, 16 April 2017, 10:28:57: I mentioned this on Reddit but I think it's worth repeating. How is this different from calm depths? There's an IC for that to run again too.

Calm Depths IC:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88090.0
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: johnextremesourcreme on Sun, 16 April 2017, 11:25:15: Looks amazing, any idea on the price?
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 11:36:55: Quote from: johnextremesourcreme on Sun, 16 April 2017, 11:25:15
Looks amazing, any idea on the price?

I haven't asked the price to SP yet, after the layout confirmed , I'll do that.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 11:39:05: Quote from: zoomwalt on Sun, 16 April 2017, 10:28:57
I mentioned this on Reddit but I think it's worth repeating. How is this different from calm depths? There's an IC for that to run again too.

Calm Depths IC:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88090.0

I like Calm Depth too, I'll buy that if they run a GB one day.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 11:42:59: Quote from: breusch91 on Sun, 16 April 2017, 09:06:55
Interested in this as well, but please get SA Mechanist up and going before this!!!!!!

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I'll never give up to push the progress until the GB of Mechanist launches, please be patient. :p
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: Loffeno on Sun, 16 April 2017, 11:51:41: Definitely interested
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: ghostdeini on Sun, 16 April 2017, 12:12:50: Count me as interested!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: xyverz on Sun, 16 April 2017, 14:50:42: If this comes with a Dvorak/Colemak kit, I'm definitely in!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: maximm on Sun, 16 April 2017, 15:14:52: We need an ISO/NORDE kit for this one!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 19:09:20: Quote from: maximm on Sun, 16 April 2017, 15:14:52
We need an ISO/NORDE kit for this one!

I'll add minimum 4 keys to meet ISO keyboards.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 19:21:58: Quote from: xyverz on Sun, 16 April 2017, 14:50:42
If this comes with a Dvorak/Colemak kit, I'm definitely in!

DC kit is not in the plan this time，I'm a Colemak user though.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: TeHao on Sun, 16 April 2017, 22:52:41: I like this.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Mon, 17 April 2017, 00:12:47: Quote from: joelfong on Sun, 16 April 2017, 06:33:46
Looks good! Though I'm personally not a huge fan of those arrow keys. Seems to throw the whole keyset off balance for me. And as a few have already commented on, it might be good to have a basic ISO kit as well. Other than that, I look forward to seeing it go live. (:

Yes，I found that those big arrow keys not very sutable for the whole keyset, I'll modify them later. :-*
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: ejewell89 on Mon, 17 April 2017, 00:28:39: id be in
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Mon, 17 April 2017, 08:42:00: Added some keys for ISO and HHKB.
Are the OK?

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DrtPsFK/0/X3/i-DrtPsFK-X3.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 18 April 2017, 02:17:14: Looks like Pulse and Dolch had a kid. Pulch? Dolse? I dunno. Alphas look pretty slick, though.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: maximm on Tue, 18 April 2017, 14:59:44: ISO looks good!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: ChitownM2 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 21:46:08: Liking this
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Wed, 19 April 2017, 00:38:59: Quote from: maximm on Tue, 18 April 2017, 14:59:44
ISO looks good!

Thank you, I need this response.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 19 April 2017, 01:48:07: Hoq's getting merciless with the siege on the wallets.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 19 April 2017, 03:16:31: Quote from: hoq on Mon, 17 April 2017, 08:42:00
Added some keys for ISO and HHKB.
Are the OK?

Show Image
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DrtPsFK/0/X3/i-DrtPsFK-X3.png)

Basic iso caps seems OK (4 keys), hhkb look fine but I don't use hhkb layout so perhaps someone else with HHKB can confirm this. Is 1800 layout too many extra keys to add to this kit?
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: yulei on Wed, 19 April 2017, 03:26:09: Quote from: duynguyenle on Wed, 19 April 2017, 03:16:31
Quote from: hoq on Mon, 17 April 2017, 08:42:00
Added some keys for ISO and HHKB.
Are the OK?

Show Image
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DrtPsFK/0/X3/i-DrtPsFK-X3.png)

Basic iso caps seems OK (4 keys), hhkb look fine but I don't use hhkb layout so perhaps someone else with HHKB can confirm this. Is 1800 layout too many extra keys to add to this kit?

basic HHKB support was also OK now.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: Geckt on Wed, 19 April 2017, 05:40:10: Quote from: hoq on Sun, 16 April 2017, 11:42:59
Quote from: breusch91 on Sun, 16 April 2017, 09:06:55
Interested in this as well, but please get SA Mechanist up and going before this!!!!!!

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I'll never give up to push the progress until the GB of Mechanist launches, please be patient. :p

Hope it doesn't happens too soon, already blown my wallets to bits. Really hoping to make this my first blue SA set.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Wed, 19 April 2017, 12:37:05: Renders updated.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: SeedyOne on Thu, 20 April 2017, 23:36:46: Interested, especially if the CD one doesn't go anywhere.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sat, 22 April 2017, 09:13:20: (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-swfssmR/0/O/i-swfssmR.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: Cloudnine25 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 09:55:32: kind of like calm depths..
anyway I prefer the alpha color in ocean dolch :)
btw,will the GB date be postponed ?
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: kmba on Sat, 22 April 2017, 10:39:29: Makes me wish you offered cyan novelties for GMK ocean dolch. That all cyan R4 looks nice.
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sat, 22 April 2017, 11:00:32: Quote from: tameone on Sat, 22 April 2017, 10:39:29
Makes me wish you offered cyan novelties for GMK ocean dolch. That all cyan R4 looks nice.

I thought about it before, but GMK is very high and hard to hit the MOQ
Title: Re: [IC] SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sat, 22 April 2017, 11:17:40: Quote from: Cloudnine25 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 09:55:32
kind of like calm depths..
anyway I prefer the alpha color in ocean dolch :)
btw,will the GB date be postponed ?

If it goes well, it should be in May. :))
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Sat, 22 April 2017, 11:34:03: I added a cyan ISO return key.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DrtPsFK/2/X3/i-DrtPsFK-X3.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: anhthao88 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 17:16:02: I am interested in this set too! I still like Nautilus more, but this set gives me a calmer vibe :-\
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB only)
Post by: hoq on Sun, 23 April 2017, 09:58:29: (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4cRJL43/0/X3/i-4cRJL43-X3.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: evervescant on Sun, 23 April 2017, 16:57:45: I made this account to try to get in on this group buy. These caps are so cool.
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: hoq on Mon, 24 April 2017, 10:48:34: Signature Banner, If you like this keyset. need your support! Thank you! :-*
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Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: hoq on Mon, 24 April 2017, 10:49:50: Quote from: evervescant on Sun, 23 April 2017, 16:57:45
I made this account to try to get in on this group buy. These caps are so cool.

So much appreciate, Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: lithopedion on Mon, 24 April 2017, 11:02:26: just want to know， when and where to buy？
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: hoq on Tue, 25 April 2017, 08:21:43: It will run by https://mehkee.com/
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: online on Tue, 25 April 2017, 17:16:18: THIS LOOKS AMAZING! Count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 20:08:50: You found a site to run this so quickly! Now let's get someone to run SA Mechanist!

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Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （for 104/WKL/ISO/HHKB/FC660C)
Post by: Niomosy on Wed, 26 April 2017, 00:36:11: Quote from: breusch91 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 20:08:50
You found a site to run this so quickly! Now let's get someone to run SA Mechanist!

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The problem isn't finding a vendor to run it Machinst. The problem is that it's an SP SA set and SP is currently backlogged on SA doubleshot sets for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: hoq on Fri, 28 April 2017, 08:44:59: Some update about forum novelties.
1. PMK logo has gotten permission from SP.
2. I have writen to reddit to ask for a permission, but they havn't reply me yet. I have no time to wait, so , I modified it, simplified the icon.
3. For geekhack logo, the previous one looks very boring with only letters, so I made a new one: a pirate hat with geekhack letters.
Hope you like them.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/SA-Ocean-Dolch/n-RTpSx7/i-JFXGdk7/2/c95b979e/X3/i-JFXGdk7-X3.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: Encabulator on Fri, 28 April 2017, 09:36:21: I'm in if my wallet can handle it
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: ibakey on Sun, 30 April 2017, 16:13:25: i love this. buttt i use a planck.=((((((
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: breusch91 on Sun, 30 April 2017, 17:55:29: any chance of seeing an "ergodox professional kit" akin to what SA Carbon round 2 will be doing? Can be seen here http://i.imgur.com/oCXn9BE.png (http://i.imgur.com/oCXn9BE.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: joshtimmermans on Mon, 01 May 2017, 08:26:36: Love this,been waiting patiently since the first day i seen it. Wonderful novelties,and epic cyan legends!! Great work Hoq
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: hoq on Tue, 02 May 2017, 06:13:51: Quote from: breusch91 on Sun, 30 April 2017, 17:55:29
any chance of seeing an "ergodox professional kit" akin to what SA Carbon round 2 will be doing? Can be seen here http://i.imgur.com/oCXn9BE.png (http://i.imgur.com/oCXn9BE.png)

A ergodox layout is out of my plan, that will add too many keys. Sorry. Maybe we can make it perfactly in Mechanist, one day........... :'(
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:02:44: As a heads up to everyone - we expect to launch this GB on Friday, May 5th.

Keep your eyes peeled for the GB thread and a Mehkee newsletter / Discord update will also be sent out.
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: mBass on Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:05:13: Shut up and take my interest!
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （forum novelties modified)
Post by: leherr on Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:06:23: Love the colors!
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （coming soon)
Post by: hoq on Wed, 03 May 2017, 23:16:50: Update！

The group-buy will be on https://mehkee.com/ from May, 6th ~ June,5th
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch （coming soon)
Post by: TeHao on Thu, 04 May 2017, 02:18:01: Quote from: hoq on Wed, 03 May 2017, 23:16:50
Update！

The group-buy will be on https://mehkee.com/ from May, 6th ~ June,5th
wish u have a good GB!
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Thu, 04 May 2017, 02:21:06: Thank you bro! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hormbre on Thu, 04 May 2017, 14:02:42: Great work , I will join in !
预祝大卖！
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: joshtimmermans on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:03:54: really wanna buy this set,i bought the gmk version from zfrontier 3 weeks ago. Do you think the novelty keys would stick out too bad on the board of gmk version, seeing as how these will be SA and Than the rest of keys GMK?? Also,will this set be limited to so many units or not??
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: lzlzh035 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 02:50:24: Really looking to join the GB. Any idea when it would be shipped?(I'm US based)
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Fri, 05 May 2017, 04:15:23: Quote from: lzlzh035 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 02:50:24
Really looking to join the GB. Any idea when it would be shipped?(I'm US based)

SP has been booked out until next March, If I place the order to SP next month I guess I will have them next May? If I'm lucky..... :'(
Title: Re: [IC] SP SA Ocean Dolch
Post by: hoq on Fri, 05 May 2017, 04:34:04: Quote from: joshtimmermans on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:03:54
really wanna buy this set,i bought the gmk version from zfrontier 3 weeks ago. Do you think the novelty keys would stick out too bad on the board of gmk version, seeing as how these will be SA and Than the rest of keys GMK?? Also,will this set be limited to so many units or not??

Thank you for purchasing GMK Ocean Dolch, I think that would be a cool keyset. :thumb:
The cyan color of SP BFQ is lighter than GMK TU2, as you saw the rendors, SA and GMK feel defferent,
SA version looks more romantic and relaxing, GMK version looks more classic and retro.