This board.. has anyone seen it? It looks so lickable...
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/filco-majestouch-2-hakua-tenkeyless-nkr-silent-soft-linear-action-usa-keyboard.asp (http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/filco-majestouch-2-hakua-tenkeyless-nkr-silent-soft-linear-action-usa-keyboard.asp)
Guess what?
- still keyboard fixed attached to back
- still NOWHERE mention whether caps / control can be switched (an absolute necessity for me)
- still ABS caps
WTF FILCO. Step up yo game b*tch. This dissapoints... because that white looks so sleek. Only alternative with silent reds I see now is the hideous bad-soldered corsair K65 vengeance or the Leopold 750. SIGH.
EDIT: pics or it didn't happen:
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This board.. has anyone seen it? It looks so lickable...
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/filco-majestouch-2-hakua-tenkeyless-nkr-silent-soft-linear-action-usa-keyboard.asp (http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/filco-majestouch-2-hakua-tenkeyless-nkr-silent-soft-linear-action-usa-keyboard.asp)
Guess what?
- still keyboard fixed attached to back
- still NOWHERE mention whether caps / control can be switched (an absolute necessity for me)
- still ABS caps
WTF FILCO. Step up yo game b*tch. This dissapoints... because that white looks so sleek. Only alternative with silent reds I see now is the hideous bad-soldered corsair K65 vengeance or the Leopold 750. SIGH.
EDIT: pics or it didn't happen:
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On the switching caps and control, you can always pick up a Pegasus hoof. Worked for me :D
But I hear ya, they need to step up their game with some programming and pbt
What is this Pegasus hoof you are talking about?
What is this Pegasus hoof you are talking about?
I received my Hakua tenkeyless with silent reds this week.
Nice keyboard and switches, but left shift is making clicky noise. It is very distinct from other keys. Probably stabilizers not doing their work properly. Very annoying, but I haven't had time to look into how to fix this issue yet. Also will add new keycaps soon there ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8XAgPxH.jpg)
If people are interested I can share some more pics.
I received my Hakua tenkeyless with silent reds this week.
Nice keyboard and switches, but left shift is making clicky noise. It is very distinct from other keys. Probably stabilizers not doing their work properly. Very annoying, but I haven't had time to look into how to fix this issue yet. Also will add new keycaps soon there ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8XAgPxH.jpg)
If people are interested I can share some more pics.
Mmmm that looks so sexy.Thanks :D
How do you place the controller? And how then could I, for instance, swap control + caps lock?Replacing controller is very easy. You just have to open the case, pull out old controller and then install new one. No soldering required.
Would you add o-rings to the board?
Replacing controller is very easy. You just have to open the case, pull out old controller and then install new one. No soldering required.?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.
?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.
This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.Thank you, I didn't notice that bit.
You could find more info about those controllers from here: http://bathroomepiphanies.com/controllers/
I ordered mine from 1upkeyboards.
Mmmm that looks so sexy.Thanks :DHow do you place the controller? And how then could I, for instance, swap control + caps lock?Replacing controller is very easy. You just have to open the case, pull out old controller and then install new one. No soldering required.
Would you add o-rings to the board?
Regarding o-rings, I don't see any reason to install them. Maybe possible lubing them later, but too early to tell. Keys are not worn in yet :)
I wouldn't buy a white Filco because I'd always be worried about smudges and dirt but I have to admit that the Hakua looks very nice.
Also, mx silents in a Filco sounds absurd to me. The plate would still make the keys sing the A note every single press, which would make the quietness of the silents useless.
I can't wait to try them for a PCB mount board though.Replacing controller is very easy. You just have to open the case, pull out old controller and then install new one. No soldering required.?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gms3tQ7.jpg)
?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.
You could find more info about those controllers from here: http://bathroomepiphanies.com/controllers/
I ordered mine from 1upkeyboards.
This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.Thank you, I didn't notice that bit.
You could find more info about those controllers from here: http://bathroomepiphanies.com/controllers/
I ordered mine from 1upkeyboards.
I was very tempted to replace mine once I looked into this programmable keyboard stuff but I'm looking into building an Ergodox or a Let's Split so I'll sell my Filco. I know that I can sell it more easily and for a higher price with one of bpiph's controllers but... Is it worth the hassle? I don't know.
Anyway, goddammit tkl have all the nice things.
You pull out the original controller and put in the new one, in the tkl it's socket mounted.?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.
You could find more info about those controllers from here: http://bathroomepiphanies.com/controllers/
I ordered mine from 1upkeyboards.
Sooo... I order Pegasus hoof, pop the bad boy in above the arrow cluster and I'm set?
Or do I also have remove the old controller up top???
I am noob... I don't know how this works (yet).
You pull out the original controller and put in the new one, in the tkl it's socket mounted.?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.
You could find more info about those controllers from here: http://bathroomepiphanies.com/controllers/
I ordered mine from 1upkeyboards.
Sooo... I order Pegasus hoof, pop the bad boy in above the arrow cluster and I'm set?
Or do I also have remove the old controller up top???
I am noob... I don't know how this works (yet).
Many custom cable makers make filco replacement cables that allows for using a removable cable. Check out pexon cables.
https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/filco-keyboard-modsYou pull out the original controller and put in the new one, in the tkl it's socket mounted.?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.
You could find more info about those controllers from here: http://bathroomepiphanies.com/controllers/
I ordered mine from 1upkeyboards.
Sooo... I order Pegasus hoof, pop the bad boy in above the arrow cluster and I'm set?
Or do I also have remove the old controller up top???
I am noob... I don't know how this works (yet).
Many custom cable makers make filco replacement cables that allows for using a removable cable. Check out pexon cables.
pexon cables eh? hmmm... white braided cable..
https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/filco-keyboard-modsYou pull out the original controller and put in the new one, in the tkl it's socket mounted.?? Is this a thing for the tkl version only? Mine looks soldered in.This one is only for Filco Majestouch TKL version.
You could find more info about those controllers from here: http://bathroomepiphanies.com/controllers/
I ordered mine from 1upkeyboards.
Sooo... I order Pegasus hoof, pop the bad boy in above the arrow cluster and I'm set?
Or do I also have remove the old controller up top???
I am noob... I don't know how this works (yet).
Many custom cable makers make filco replacement cables that allows for using a removable cable. Check out pexon cables.
pexon cables eh? hmmm... white braided cable..
He can probably make whatever you want. :thumb:
Sooo... I order Pegasus hoof, pop the bad boy in above the arrow cluster and I'm set?1. Open the case
Or do I also have remove the old controller up top???
I am noob... I don't know how this works (yet).
I did it... iLLucionist has ordered MJT 2 TKL HAKAU White with Silent Reds and 40 hardness 1.5mm red o-rings. Couldn't resist... dat white. Will check out controller later.Nice! I hope you like your board and that it doesn't come with clicky stabilizer like mine (in the progress of sorting it out).
Ouch though... included some other accessoires (kb + o-rings x 2 + 3x ps/2-usb + wire puller)... 164 GBP.... = 209 euro. WTF UK. Dat currency so expensive. TOTALLY WORTH IT 10/10
Sooo... I order Pegasus hoof, pop the bad boy in above the arrow cluster and I'm set?1. Open the case
Or do I also have remove the old controller up top???
I am noob... I don't know how this works (yet).
2. Pull out old controller:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zUlrCl4.jpg)
3. Push in new controller
4. Run magnet over the controller to go into bootloader mode
5. Flash new firmware
6. Ensure that it works and that you have shortcut to go into bootloader mode
7. Close the caseI did it... iLLucionist has ordered MJT 2 TKL HAKAU White with Silent Reds and 40 hardness 1.5mm red o-rings. Couldn't resist... dat white. Will check out controller later.Nice! I hope you like your board and that it doesn't come with clicky stabilizer like mine (in the progress of sorting it out).
Ouch though... included some other accessoires (kb + o-rings x 2 + 3x ps/2-usb + wire puller)... 164 GBP.... = 209 euro. WTF UK. Dat currency so expensive. TOTALLY WORTH IT 10/10
I will share Google drive folder with video, audio examples of my shift problem:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3kYrD73XM3bcWZtemRPNnBIckE
Also, mx silents in a Filco sounds absurd to me. The plate would still make the keys sing the A note every single press, which would make the quietness of the silents useless.
I have the full-size ANSI 104 version of the Filco HAKUA with MX silent reds and they don't sing any notes. The only noise you hear, really, is the slider friction.Do you have any thoughts about how to decrease it?
I have the full-size ANSI 104 version of the Filco HAKUA with MX silent reds and they don't sing any notes. The only noise you hear, really, is the slider friction.Do you have any thoughts about how to decrease it?
I've tried o-rings, dampening material under the case, dampening material between the pcb and the case, dampening mat between pcb-case and case-desk and dampening mat between the table and the bare pcb.
What kind of dampening material do you put in the case?Kitchen sponge! Kidding... but not really. I went to my local domestic tools store (I don't know if these are the right words, it's a supermarket for everything for the house but food ok) with one of this (https://www.amazon.com/Vileda-Sponge-Cloth-Super-Absorbent/dp/B002TJEC7C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1493664641&sr=8-5&keywords=wettex). I went up to the owner like "I want this but way bigger" and he gave me this.
What kind of dampening material do you put in the case?Kitchen sponge! Kidding... but not really. I went to my local domestic tools store (I don't know if these are the right words, it's a supermarket for everything for the house but food ok) with one of this (https://www.amazon.com/Vileda-Sponge-Cloth-Super-Absorbent/dp/B002TJEC7C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1493664641&sr=8-5&keywords=wettex). I went up to the owner like "I want this but way bigger" and he gave me this.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yxp7Xzr.jpg)
For killing the bottom-out noise that echoes around under the PCB and radiates out the bottom of the case, I've used 0.10" (thick) sheets of sorbothane acoustic dampening rubber. Very effective. Of course it won't do anything to prevent upstroke noise (or any noise for that matter) that radiates up from the plate and out the top of the keyboard.
Filco needs to majorly up their game if they ever want a purchase from me. Quality alone won't do it since plenty of boards out there offer that now at better pricing with more features.
I'm not really huge on white boards but if I was I would buy into one of the Leopolds.
For TKL's I really like KUL,Deck,Leopold and gaining an appreciation for Ducky.
For killing the bottom-out noise that echoes around under the PCB and radiates out the bottom of the case, I've used 0.10" (thick) sheets of sorbothane acoustic dampening rubber. Very effective. Of course it won't do anything to prevent upstroke noise (or any noise for that matter) that radiates up from the plate and out the top of the keyboard.
Where do you buy that stuff? Regular hardware shop as well?
For killing the bottom-out noise that echoes around under the PCB and radiates out the bottom of the case, I've used 0.10" (thick) sheets of sorbothane acoustic dampening rubber. Very effective. Of course it won't do anything to prevent upstroke noise (or any noise for that matter) that radiates up from the plate and out the top of the keyboard.
Where do you buy that stuff? Regular hardware shop as well?
I get mine from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084EXBFA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
For killing the bottom-out noise that echoes around under the PCB and radiates out the bottom of the case, I've used 0.10" (thick) sheets of sorbothane acoustic dampening rubber. Very effective. Of course it won't do anything to prevent upstroke noise (or any noise for that matter) that radiates up from the plate and out the top of the keyboard.
Where do you buy that stuff? Regular hardware shop as well?
I get mine from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084EXBFA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is it easy to cut? I'm afraid those brittle rubbers will tear easily.
"I'm afraid those brittle rubbers will tear easily."
Sounds like something I found myself saying when I was younger buying the cheaper condoms.
For killing the bottom-out noise that echoes around under the PCB and radiates out the bottom of the case, I've used 0.10" (thick) sheets of sorbothane acoustic dampening rubber. Very effective. Of course it won't do anything to prevent upstroke noise (or any noise for that matter) that radiates up from the plate and out the top of the keyboard.
For killing the bottom-out noise that echoes around under the PCB and radiates out the bottom of the case, I've used 0.10" (thick) sheets of sorbothane acoustic dampening rubber. Very effective. Of course it won't do anything to prevent upstroke noise (or any noise for that matter) that radiates up from the plate and out the top of the keyboard.
That's the word, it radiates. My sound is not a tiny sound 'ring', that's only the first part, when I (very rarely) bottom out, then I let go of the key, and then 'riiiiing' it resonates for a couple of seconds in a note that's very very close to the A.
I wish I hadn't trusted the people who said "it's only a few isolated keys" or I would have burned 150€ elsewhere. I love the Filco in so far it's very sturdy (the Varmilo doesn't compare), has nice smooth caps (although they are very thin), regular non-detachable cable and is a powerhouse so there's enough aftermarket for things like programmable controllers, cases and stuff. But...Majesping.
I'm very curious to check if it pings even with the Silents.
With a linear switch like MX red, there are only three sources of noise: bottom-out, upstroke, and slider friction (I'm not counting stabilizer rattle). If you aren't bottoming out, then you won't get bottom out noise. Slider friction doesn't make a ping noise, it makes a shuff sound. The only thing left is upstroke noise, when the slider hits the underside of the switch housing. I've never heard that described as a "ping", but whatever. An MX silent red switch has very little upstroke noise. Like I mentioned earlier, most of the noise comes from slider friction, and it isn't a sharp "ping" at all.
BTW, I've never encountered a switch that is 100% silent. Pursuit of such is a fool's errand, IMO.
MX silent reds are dampened for both bottom out and upstroke noise.you can find an extremely HQ rendering of what he's talking about here:
I'm very curious to check if it pings even with the Silents.Unfortunately there is some ping, but I believe all plate mounted boards have this. You don't really notice it unless you are closes with your ear to keyboard and try to listen it.
Unfortunately there is some ping, but I believe all plate mounted boards have this. You don't really notice it unless you are closes with your ear to keyboard and try to listen it.That's it I'm going PCB mount. Bye bye metal plates.
Unfortunately there is some ping, but I believe all plate mounted boards have this. You don't really notice it unless you are closes with your ear to keyboard and try to listen it.That's it I'm going PCB mount. Bye bye metal plates.
Unfortunately there is some ping, but I believe all plate mounted boards have this. You don't really notice it unless you are closes with your ear to keyboard and try to listen it.That's it I'm going PCB mount. Bye bye metal plates.
Unfortunately there is some ping, but I believe all plate mounted boards have this. You don't really notice it unless you are closes with your ear to keyboard and try to listen it.That's it I'm going PCB mount. Bye bye metal plates.
Thing about PCB mounted switches is even though I prefer the sound they feel like dog**** to type on IMO.
Thing about PCB mounted switches is even though I prefer the sound they feel like dog**** to type on IMO.Can you elaborate? Do they feel more 'mushy', less stable or something like that?
That's it I'm going PCB mount. Bye bye metal plates.But sir, it is barely noticable. I have had different Filcos for many years and just recently noticed it after changing keycaps to aliexpress pbt stuff.
Nah, it's not ALWAYS the plate. I believe it has to do with the springs with heaver switches (= heavier springs) that pop back more strongly and thus resonate more.Ping comes from switch spring resonating with metal plate.
Though now that I say that... that may mean that it is the metal plate that resonates then, not so much the spring in the switch.
Nah, it's not ALWAYS the plate. I believe it has to do with the springs with heaver switches (= heavier springs) that pop back more strongly and thus resonate more.Ping comes from switch spring resonating with metal plate.
Though now that I say that... that may mean that it is the metal plate that resonates then, not so much the spring in the switch.
But sir, it is barely noticable. I have had different Filcos for many years and just recently noticed it after changing keycaps to aliexpress pbt stuff.What I learned about keyboard pinging in GH is that not all plate mounted boards ping and not all boards that ping are so loud to be annoying.
What I learned about keyboard pinging in GH is that not all plate mounted boards ping and not all boards that ping are so loud to be annoying. I'm simply very unlucky because my Filco is unusually loud and constant in its resounding. (Actually the volume decreased a bit from the beginning, but it's still very much noticeable.)I see, it is very unfortunate. But you are right about some boards having it less or not at all.
I'm glad that your pinging is barely noticeable. Unfortunately it's a big problem for me.
Which parts of your filco are more louder btw?That's the "very unlucky" part, it's most of the keys!
Which parts of your filco are more louder btw?That's the "very unlucky" part, it's most of the keys!
Many alphas, the T, O, S, F, and R leading the chorus, but also the modifiers such as Shift, Ctrl, Alt Gr, the Del and left arrow in the cluster.
I have silent reds in a Majestouch and the "pinging" is very quite. Maybe you need to turn on a fan or something so you don't hear a pin drop :)
Nice that you are happy with your Filco Hakua. I still haven't fixed my left shift, but seems like one of the stabilizers is bad, moves around in case :(