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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
The easiest way to get that is to get a keyboard kit (pcb (that supports ISO), case, etc.) and then get Holtite sockets.
Holtites are installed very EASILY and also available for the led holes, so you can have it fully hot-swappable.
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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
The easiest way to get that is to get a keyboard kit (pcb (that supports ISO), case, etc.) and then get Holtite sockets.
Holtites are installed very EASILY and also available for the led holes, so you can have it fully hot-swappable.
Sent from my MHA-L09 using Tapatalk
Ok that would be good. I've also alerady looked up DIY kits but I'm not sure which ones are the best for hot swapping, because I've read about PCBs that don't support the holtites. Do you know any kits which could be compatible?
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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
The easiest way to get that is to get a keyboard kit (pcb (that supports ISO), case, etc.) and then get Holtite sockets.
Holtites are installed very EASILY and also available for the led holes, so you can have it fully hot-swappable.
Sent from my MHA-L09 using Tapatalk
Ok that would be good. I've also alerady looked up DIY kits but I'm not sure which ones are the best for hot swapping, because I've read about PCBs that don't support the holtites. Do you know any kits which could be compatible?
sure, gimme a minute and I'll look for the compatibility table for you
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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
The easiest way to get that is to get a keyboard kit (pcb (that supports ISO), case, etc.) and then get Holtite sockets.
Holtites are installed very EASILY and also available for the led holes, so you can have it fully hot-swappable.
Sent from my MHA-L09 using Tapatalk
Ok that would be good. I've also alerady looked up DIY kits but I'm not sure which ones are the best for hot swapping, because I've read about PCBs that don't support the holtites. Do you know any kits which could be compatible?
Compatibility Table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true)
where you can get them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true)
I myself have them in my RedScarf II+ ver.C (RS68), RedScarf III ver.A (RS96) and Sentraq S60-X at the moment. They are a perfect fit with those PCBs. (And got both gold and tin and for that small difference I suggest getting the gold plated ones)
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Thanks a lot!
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Thanks a lot!
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Seems like you're from a German speaking area? (There are cheaper sources (shipping) within Europe such as MOUSER electronics (I'm from Switzerland, got them there).)
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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
The easiest way to get that is to get a keyboard kit (pcb (that supports ISO), case, etc.) and then get Holtite sockets.
Holtites are installed very EASILY and also available for the led holes, so you can have it fully hot-swappable.
Sent from my MHA-L09 using Tapatalk
Ok that would be good. I've also alerady looked up DIY kits but I'm not sure which ones are the best for hot swapping, because I've read about PCBs that don't support the holtites. Do you know any kits which could be compatible?
Compatibility Table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true)
where you can get them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true)
I myself have them in my RedScarf II+ ver.C (RS68), RedScarf III ver.A (RS96) and Sentraq S60-X at the moment. They are a perfect fit with those PCBs. (And got both gold and tin and for that small difference I suggest getting the gold plated ones)
But I don't want to spend more than 200-250$ on the keyboard. Won't it cost more?
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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
The easiest way to get that is to get a keyboard kit (pcb (that supports ISO), case, etc.) and then get Holtite sockets.
Holtites are installed very EASILY and also available for the led holes, so you can have it fully hot-swappable.
Sent from my MHA-L09 using Tapatalk
Ok that would be good. I've also alerady looked up DIY kits but I'm not sure which ones are the best for hot swapping, because I've read about PCBs that don't support the holtites. Do you know any kits which could be compatible?
Compatibility Table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true)
where you can get them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true)
I myself have them in my RedScarf II+ ver.C (RS68), RedScarf III ver.A (RS96) and Sentraq S60-X at the moment. They are a perfect fit with those PCBs. (And got both gold and tin and for that small difference I suggest getting the gold plated ones)
But I don't want to spend more than 200-250$ on the keyboard. Won't it cost more?
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Could be depending on the kit and case you get...
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Thanks a lot!
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Seems like you're from a German speaking area? (There are cheaper sources (shipping) within Europe such as MOUSER electronics (I'm from Switzerland, got them there).)
Yeah, I'm from Luxembourg.
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Hi,
so I was looking for a hot swap keyboard. It should have an ISO (German) layout with possible RGB lighting. The size doesn't really matter but TKL and full-size are preferred. I know that there are keyboards like the Glorious PC Gaming Race and the Input Club K-Type but these all have ANSI layout, so could there be a way of "changing" the layout to ISO? Well I just hope that somebody knows if there any keyboards like that!
The easiest way to get that is to get a keyboard kit (pcb (that supports ISO), case, etc.) and then get Holtite sockets.
Holtites are installed very EASILY and also available for the led holes, so you can have it fully hot-swappable.
Sent from my MHA-L09 using Tapatalk
Ok that would be good. I've also alerady looked up DIY kits but I'm not sure which ones are the best for hot swapping, because I've read about PCBs that don't support the holtites. Do you know any kits which could be compatible?
Compatibility Table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true)
where you can get them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=1901814151&single=true)
I myself have them in my RedScarf II+ ver.C (RS68), RedScarf III ver.A (RS96) and Sentraq S60-X at the moment. They are a perfect fit with those PCBs. (And got both gold and tin and for that small difference I suggest getting the gold plated ones)
But I don't want to spend more than 200-250$ on the keyboard. Won't it cost more?
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Could be depending on the kit and case you get...
Can I get the Red Scarf kits on non-group buying sites?
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Can I get the Red Scarf kits on non-group buying sites?
There might be some on TaoBao or Aliexpress...
Didn't find if it's compatible, but the Phantom is a cheap TKL PCB, but you'll wanna go sure they fit on that.
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Can I get the Red Scarf kits on non-group buying sites?
There might be some on TaoBao or Aliexpress...
Didn't find if it's compatible, but the Phantom is a cheap TKL PCB, but you'll wanna go sure they fit on that.
But did you get yours on massdrop and how much did the sets cost then?
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Can I get the Red Scarf kits on non-group buying sites?
There might be some on TaoBao or Aliexpress...
Didn't find if it's compatible, but the Phantom is a cheap TKL PCB, but you'll wanna go sure they fit on that.
But did you get yours on massdrop and how much did the sets cost then?
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yeah, the RSII was 145$ (with shipping) and the RSIII was 435$ (but I took all kits. Base price was 240$ or so iirc)
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Can I get the Red Scarf kits on non-group buying sites?
There might be some on TaoBao or Aliexpress...
Didn't find if it's compatible, but the Phantom is a cheap TKL PCB, but you'll wanna go sure they fit on that.
But did you get yours on massdrop and how much did the sets cost then?
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yeah, the RSII was 145$ (with shipping) and the RSIII was 435$ (but I took all kits. Base price was 240$ or so iirc)
Do the keycaps come with the kit and are they ISO, ANSI or both included?
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Can I get the Red Scarf kits on non-group buying sites?
There might be some on TaoBao or Aliexpress...
Didn't find if it's compatible, but the Phantom is a cheap TKL PCB, but you'll wanna go sure they fit on that.
But did you get yours on massdrop and how much did the sets cost then?
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yeah, the RSII was 145$ (with shipping) and the RSIII was 435$ (but I took all kits. Base price was 240$ or so iirc)
Do the keycaps come with the kit and are they ISO, ANSI or both included?
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keycaps were extra (did come with a full GMK set though (which includes ISO))
But you can get good quality sets for a cheap price via aliexpress or over the classifieds thread
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Can I get the Red Scarf kits on non-group buying sites?
There might be some on TaoBao or Aliexpress...
Didn't find if it's compatible, but the Phantom is a cheap TKL PCB, but you'll wanna go sure they fit on that.
But did you get yours on massdrop and how much did the sets cost then?
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yeah, the RSII was 145$ (with shipping) and the RSIII was 435$ (but I took all kits. Base price was 240$ or so iirc)
Do the keycaps come with the kit and are they ISO, ANSI or both included?
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keycaps were extra (did come with a full GMK set though (which includes ISO))
But you can get good quality sets for a cheap price via aliexpress or over the classifieds thread
Have you installed hot swap LEDs?
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yes... works well too :)
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Is there a lot soldering requiered?
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Is there a lot soldering requiered?
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with holtites none! They're what is called "press-fit"... (only need to solder if they're too lose or won't fit)
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Thanks a lot!
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Seems like you're from a German speaking area? (There are cheaper sources (shipping) within Europe such as MOUSER electronics (I'm from Switzerland, got them there).)
Yeah, I'm from Luxembourg.
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Luxembourg? I lived there from 1y to 5.5years old... but forgot most of the language again :(
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Oh, ok that's great!
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Well thanks for the help until now, I'll just wait for the next Massdrop Groopbuy and try to get the Red Scarf Ver. C as cheap as possible.
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Is there a lot soldering requiered?
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with holtites none! They're what is called "press-fit"... (only need to solder if they're too lose or won't fit)
Sorry for the lots of questions, but could I technically buy, for example, a Corsair Keyboard and modify it to make it a hot swap keyboard?
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Is there a lot soldering requiered?
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with holtites none! They're what is called "press-fit"... (only need to solder if they're too lose or won't fit)
Sorry for the lots of questions, but could I technically buy, for example, a Corsair Keyboard and modify it to make it a hot swap keyboard?
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technically possible, but you'll have to desolder all the switches for that
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would that be worth it? Not the keyboard price, but the effort.
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would that be worth it, not the keyboard price, but the effort
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well, if the sockets won't fit it wouldn't be worth it... depends how much time you've got ;P
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ok and what about ANSI layout? Do you have any experiences with it? Is it difficult to switch from ISO to ANSI?
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ok and what about ANSI layout? Do you have any experiences with it? Is it difficult to switch from ISO to ANSI?
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I switch between the two layouts frequently. You get used to it pretty fast though... and if you need special symbols and just wanna stick with ansi, use the ANSI international keyboard layout (software layout given by your OS)
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ok and what about ANSI layout? Do you have any experiences with it? Is it difficult to switch from ISO to ANSI?
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I switch between the two layouts frequently. You get used to it pretty fast though... and if you need special symbols and just wanna stick with ansi, use the ANSI international keyboard layout (software layout given by your OS)
Well, then I'll probably just get the Glorious PC Gaming Race keyboard, since every criteria, except for the layout, is fulfilled.
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ok and what about ANSI layout? Do you have any experiences with it? Is it difficult to switch from ISO to ANSI?
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I switch between the two layouts frequently. You get used to it pretty fast though... and if you need special symbols and just wanna stick with ansi, use the ANSI international keyboard layout (software layout given by your OS)
Well, then I'll probably just get the Glorious PC Gaming Race keyboard, since every criteria, except for the layout, is fulfilled.
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Honestly I have a Glorious with Gateron reds and I can't speak highly enough about it. Fantastic build, incredible lighting and a wonderful price. Truly exceptional.
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Okay, then my decision is taken and I'll get a Glorious keyboard with Gateron blues and reds and I'll also get the Kailh switches from Massdrop. Thanks for answering my questions, really appreciated!
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