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Title: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: jhoang on Mon, 10 July 2017, 15:32:22
Group Buy topic here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90787.0

Interest Checks for E6-V2 60% custom keyboard.
E6-V2

(http://i.imgur.com/kRSnJxr.jpg)

Hello everyone,
This keyboard is designed and made by E-Team Mech Key (This team is the co-operation between Vietnamese and Chinese).

Make sure to fill this form if you are interested in purchasing one: https://goo.gl/forms/141G5ZU5L1XBUBQ02


Specifications:


See more detail pictures here:
- Rendering: http://imgur.com/a/kR2x4
- Manufacturing: http://imgur.com/a/aAU7t
- Prototype in real life: http://imgur.com/a/kK6En
- RGB LEDs testing: http://imgur.com/a/vOqpr


Estimated price starts from: $330 (Full kit, PCB included) (the price is flexible depending on different materials and colors)

Additional Information:
More
  • High quality assemble package is available. Cost depends on switches and LED options



GB will be launched soon!
Expected timeline:


FAQs:

Q: Why isn’t this version’s name E6-V1?
A: At first, I intended to name this version E6-V1. But then, I come up with an idea of making another version 60% keyboard having the same design as of E8-V1.

(Updating…)[/list]
Title: Re: [IC] Interest Check for E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 10 July 2017, 15:50:20

  • Fully Programmable using Bootmapper Client



Aaaand I'm out. I'd instabuy if it was compatible with normal 60% PCBs or a 32u2/32u4 based PCB was offered :(
Title: Re: [IC] Interest Check for E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: zl_ramiel on Mon, 10 July 2017, 16:03:25
Damn, it looks awesome. So the price is the same with E8 V1?
Title: Re: [IC] Interest Check for E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 10 July 2017, 16:20:28
I love the design...but Please, please, please stay away from custom PCB's that use a middle USB port....

There is a reason why there is much frustration with Duck PCB's, once it dies, or you randomly burn a few  pads, it's ruined and you're out of luck since replacements are difficult to find.

Is it possible to change the USB design so it can utilize standard 60% PCB's, like Bface, Bfake, GH60, FaceW, Etc.,

I can guarantee it'll make many people happy.

Also, any chance for HHKB tops? Pretty please?

Edit: Any samples of the White anodization? That sounds interesting!
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Riu on Mon, 10 July 2017, 16:38:22
Interest form filled out.
E6-V2 might be the 60% of the year for me.
White micro-arc oxidation & HHKB layout <3
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Doluded on Mon, 10 July 2017, 18:23:08
If I can make it all black I'm in. Form filled out!


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 10 July 2017, 18:33:00
Really nice, but wish it was cheaper. Probably won't get in because it's more expensive than I feel like paying. Looks really nice though, very close to 356.

Would appreciate it if you guys did it with a standard PCB and not a center USB one.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: senter on Mon, 10 July 2017, 19:11:19
Nice board but it too expensive what i cant pay it :'(
     wish it could be cheaper
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: odd on Mon, 10 July 2017, 21:51:51
You know I want, signed up
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kuang2 on Mon, 10 July 2017, 21:53:17
Aaaand I'm out. I'd instabuy if it was compatible with normal 60% PCBs or a 32u2/32u4 based PCB was offered :(

As I know that PCB will using Atmega32AU, which you can use PS2avRGB or TMK/QMK ....

Would appreciate it if you guys did it with a standard PCB and not a center USB one.

I love the design...but Please, please, please stay away from custom PCB's that use a middle USB port....

There is a reason why there is much frustration with Duck PCB's, once it dies, or you randomly burn a few  pads, it's ruined and you're out of luck since replacements are difficult to find.

Is it possible to change the USB design so it can utilize standard 60% PCB's, like Bface, Bfake, GH60, FaceW, Etc.,

I can guarantee it'll make many people happy.

Standard 60% is too old. I can bet you that you will never find any custom case that look impress to you which using b.face. All designer hate it. Or maybe we will try to change new pcb to satisfy keyboard designer. And how about other layout? 40, 65, 75, 7, 96 ..... At least, we can share gerber file to everyone to make himself a PCB if he want. You can burn some as you want ^_^


Also, any chance for HHKB tops? Pretty please?

HHKB layout was listed, but we still thinking about which spacebar will look better. "True HHKB" using 6x spacebar only, and all the other custom using 7x.

If I can make it all black I'm in. Form filled out!

Any samples of the White anodization? That sounds interesting!

Both black and white anode was in prototype, you can see the image

Really nice, but wish it was cheaper. Probably won't get in because it's more expensive than I feel like paying. Looks really nice though, very close to 356.

Nice board but it too expensive what i cant pay it :'(
     wish it could be cheaper
I do not have any idea on price .... it depend on you <3

Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 11 July 2017, 00:10:08
Super interested.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 11 July 2017, 00:21:43
Do the PCB and plate support Alps?
Title: Re: [IC] Interest Check for E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 11 July 2017, 00:28:56
I love the design...but Please, please, please stay away from custom PCB's that use a middle USB port....

There is a reason why there is much frustration with Duck PCB's, once it dies, or you randomly burn a few  pads, it's ruined and you're out of luck since replacements are difficult to find.

Is it possible to change the USB design so it can utilize standard 60% PCB's, like Bface, Bfake, GH60, FaceW, Etc.,

I can guarantee it'll make many people happy.

Also, any chance for HHKB tops? Pretty please?

Edit: Any samples of the White anodization? That sounds interesting!

Please for the love of god don't do a custom PCB. Like Unforgivable mentioned its a PITA to find replacement PCB's. Making this universal will put this board on a whole other level. It is an incredible design.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kuang2 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 01:46:26

Please for the love of god don't do a custom PCB. Like Unforgivable mentioned its a PITA to find replacement PCB's. Making this universal will put this board on a whole other level. It is an incredible design.
you can see my answer, and please give me more reason on this:
- you want to use your existing pcb? You have to desold switches then solder it to new plate.
- you want a popular PCB in case the PCB come with kit go wrong? Right, but maybe we have to find the way to solve this problem
- you just do not want to change your mind?

Do the PCB and plate support Alps?

nice question, and I think it YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS (I'm fan of ALPS, AEKII :))) - but you have to buy seperate pcb/plate. Doing it universal too difficult
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 05:35:05
Aaaand I'm out. I'd instabuy if it was compatible with normal 60% PCBs or a 32u2/32u4 based PCB was offered :(

As I know that PCB will using Atmega32AU, which you can use PS2avRGB or TMK/QMK ....

So you would prefer to use a chip (32a) that does not even have native USB support and relies on V-USB for it'as main job rather than one that has native USB support like the 32u4 does?
I don't understand why, we have two very good open source firmwares (TMK and QMK) that run natively on a 32u4, but their port to the 32a is again relying on V-USB.

You might ask yourself: "So, why exactly is that a problem?"
Well, that is because all the PCBs with 32a implementations I tested so far had higher input latency than my PCBs with a 32u2 and 32u4. Not by much at all, normal users won't even notice, but I fall into the minority of users that play rhythm games, where even 5ms more or less can make a very significant difference.
I'm fed up with not being able to buy keyboards just because the PCB is designed around a (rather bad) GUI which sadly works for almost everyone, so very few people care to make something actually good.

you can see my answer, and please give me more reason on this:
- you want to use your existing pcb? You have to desold switches then solder it to new plate.
- you want a popular PCB in case the PCB come with kit go wrong? Right, but maybe we have to find the way to solve this problem
- you just do not want to change your mind?

-I just want a PCB that uses a 32u2 or 32u4, as 32a implementations do not work for my use case. See above for why. I don't mind the middle USB port, in fact I can really understand why you did this (mounting the plate to the top needs compromises with the standard USB location). But this sadly means that no other 60% PCBs fit and that I'd have to get a fully custom PCB made in order to use the board which is prohibitively expensive. I want to buy this, I even wanted to buy the E8, but the PCB choice in both cases would not work for me :( .


It is not hard to change the existing PCB-design to use a different controller and set it up with TMK/QMK. We might even be able to get ruiqi to add support for it to his configurator at http://kbfirmware.com/ so we have some sort of a GUI for programming.
I know changing something that late in the process is annoying, and I also know that the case is the last thing you want to change, but I don't think it's too late to update the PCB to something modern and futureproof. You could pioneer a new standard for a PCB for top-mounted 60% keyboards, make it right, make it accessible and always have some in stock in case someone needs one, if you do that I think this might work just as well as supporting existing PCBs made for the tray-mount standard. If these fit into the Viper v2 they could be very important in the future.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kuang2 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 09:09:52
Aaaand I'm out. I'd instabuy if it was compatible with normal 60% PCBs or a 32u2/32u4 based PCB was offered :(

As I know that PCB will using Atmega32AU, which you can use PS2avRGB or TMK/QMK ....

So you would prefer to use a chip (32a) that does not even have native USB support and relies on V-USB for it'as main job rather than one that has native USB support like the 32u4 does?
I don't understand why, we have two very good open source firmwares (TMK and QMK) that run natively on a 32u4, but their port to the 32a is again relying on V-USB.

You might ask yourself: "So, why exactly is that a problem?"
Well, that is because all the PCBs with 32a implementations I tested so far had higher input latency than my PCBs with a 32u2 and 32u4. Not by much at all, normal users won't even notice, but I fall into the minority of users that play rhythm games, where even 5ms more or less can make a very significant difference.
I'm fed up with not being able to buy keyboards just because the PCB is designed around a (rather bad) GUI which sadly works for almost everyone, so very few people care to make something actually good.

you can see my answer, and please give me more reason on this:
- you want to use your existing pcb? You have to desold switches then solder it to new plate.
- you want a popular PCB in case the PCB come with kit go wrong? Right, but maybe we have to find the way to solve this problem
- you just do not want to change your mind?

-I just want a PCB that uses a 32u2 or 32u4, as 32a implementations do not work for my use case. See above for why. I don't mind the middle USB port, in fact I can really understand why you did this (mounting the plate to the top needs compromises with the standard USB location). But this sadly means that no other 60% PCBs fit and that I'd have to get a fully custom PCB made in order to use the board which is prohibitively expensive. I want to buy this, I even wanted to buy the E8, but the PCB choice in both cases would not work for me :( .


It is not hard to change the existing PCB-design to use a different controller and set it up with TMK/QMK. We might even be able to get ruiqi to add support for it to his configurator at http://kbfirmware.com/ so we have some sort of a GUI for programming.
I know changing something that late in the process is annoying, and I also know that the case is the last thing you want to change, but I don't think it's too late to update the PCB to something modern and futureproof. You could pioneer a new standard for a PCB for top-mounted 60% keyboards, make it right, make it accessible and always have some in stock in case someone needs one, if you do that I think this might work just as well as supporting existing PCBs made for the tray-mount standard. If these fit into the Viper v2 they could be very important in the future.

thank you so much for your information.

building a PCB with TMK/QMK quite easy as we already have layout and footprint here. The main reason that we (and some other teams) choose PS2avrGB because of the GUI. I'm sure that 90% users do not want to go to an website, config their layout, copy to an other website to make some .hex file then using command line to remap their keyboard. Or have to download, install driver, fixxing libusb blah blah blah .... (fix me if i'm wrong)

Do you think that, we, the best keyboard community, can define a new standard for PCB (both 60, 87 and other), which we can find best layout, controller, GUI then make it open source. People can add other functions like bluetooth, RGB, or mouse simulate, joytisk,USB Hub, card reader  .... for that. It's a long time since Komar does GH60, and it's never too late to make anything that good for all  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 11 July 2017, 09:46:35

Please for the love of god don't do a custom PCB. Like Unforgivable mentioned its a PITA to find replacement PCB's. Making this universal will put this board on a whole other level. It is an incredible design.
you can see my answer, and please give me more reason on this:
- you want to use your existing pcb? You have to desold switches then solder it to new plate.
- you want a popular PCB in case the PCB come with kit go wrong? Right, but maybe we have to find the way to solve this problem
- you just do not want to change your mind?

The main reason is just compatibility and availability. If the mid usb pcb's were available to purchase anytime it wouldn't be an issue but nobody carries them, and for good reason. Pok3r cases are really common and its an easy way to go from stock>custom case>custom pcb. Naturally stores that carry these pcb's will want to go with whats most common. Additionally, If this happened to be my favorite board and layout I might possibly want to change switches as better options become available. Desoldering doesn't always go as expected. I lifted a pad on my Duck Viper and it was nearly impossible to find a replacement, and now that I found the replacement I dont even want to use it. I would rather just sell the board and get a board with universal compatibility. I should add that I'm a very experienced solderer, I've been soldering for 15years and I have never lifted a pad on any other keyboard PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 10:02:28
building a PCB with TMK/QMK quite easy as we already have layout and footprint here. The main reason that we (and some other teams) choose PS2avrGB because of the GUI. I'm sure that 90% users do not want to go to an website, config their layout, copy to an other website to make some .hex file then using command line to remap their keyboard. Or have to download, install driver, fixxing libusb blah blah blah .... (fix me if i'm wrong)

If your PCB gets integrated as a preset for the site, everything can be done on there and it just spits out a working .hex (or even just the files in case you want to compile it yourself).
Thanks to skullydazed there also is a very easy way to flash a .hex without much hassle and completely command line free (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_flasher).
The site is very easy to use if there is a preset for your PCB, it's even more intuitive than Bootmapperclient imo, the only part that is missing is a GUI for RGB, which still has to be done in code (also possible on the site though).

Do you think that, we, the best keyboard community, can define a new standard for PCB (both 60, 87 and other), which we can find best layout, controller, GUI then make it open source. People can add other functions like bluetooth, RGB, or mouse simulate, joytisk,USB Hub, card reader  .... for that. It's a long time since Komar does GH60, and it's never too late to make anything that good for all  :-*

The least we can do is try.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: dblack on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:56:54
Price is a bit on the high side and definitely will be when I add options. But I think I'll be joining regardless, filling out the form now. Also, what exactly is the founders edition?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: afrokobe on Tue, 11 July 2017, 20:45:59
Price is a bit on the high side and definitely will be when I add options. But I think I'll be joining regardless, filling out the form now. Also, what exactly is the founders edition?
$330 for everything is pretty reasonable
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 July 2017, 21:42:26
Price is a bit on the high side and definitely will be when I add options. But I think I'll be joining regardless, filling out the form now. Also, what exactly is the founders edition?
$330 for everything is pretty reasonable

X60 was $350 and people were complaining it's too high. I guess this one is one more piece so who knows, though.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Wed, 12 July 2017, 01:55:58
 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 12 July 2017, 05:35:53
Hi, any chance of anodizing orange? I'd love to see the middle piece a different color aluminum to make the keyboard more colorful.

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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Wed, 12 July 2017, 07:45:28
Hi, any chance of anodizing orange? I'd love to see the middle piece a different color aluminum to make the keyboard more colorful.

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Perhaps,it depens on how many ppl want it
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: clappingcactus on Wed, 12 July 2017, 08:32:18
At least, we can share gerber file to everyone to make himself a PCB if he want. You can burn some as you want ^_^

HHKB layout was listed, but we still thinking about which spacebar will look better. "True HHKB" using 6x spacebar only, and all the other custom using 7x.

I'd buy this keyboard if the PCB files were included to buyers so I could make my own. Like Kawasaki said, I'd also prefer a 32u4 and urge you to reconsider. While bootmapper client is really nice, it's also not as useful as TMK/QMK. We're on a website for custom keyboards. The average person here wants the best possible performance, not the simplest usability.

Also my vote is for a 6x spacebar.

Any chance for brass plate?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Wed, 12 July 2017, 17:29:05
At least, we can share gerber file to everyone to make himself a PCB if he want. You can burn some as you want ^_^

HHKB layout was listed, but we still thinking about which spacebar will look better. "True HHKB" using 6x spacebar only, and all the other custom using 7x.

I'd buy this keyboard if the PCB files were included to buyers so I could make my own. Like Kawasaki said, I'd also prefer a 32u4 and urge you to reconsider. While bootmapper client is really nice, it's also not as useful as TMK/QMK. We're on a website for custom keyboards. The average person here wants the best possible performance, not the simplest usability.

Also my vote is for a 6x spacebar.

Any chance for brass plate?
Brass plate is support .
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 12 July 2017, 17:49:42
Is the custom Middle USB set in stone? Like the others said, I agree more with the universal (Standard) PCB's that are widely available. You'd be able to use Bootmap, it's just the USB being moved so it's also compatable with any 60% case.

For the HHKB top, I'd go with the 7u version. 7u spacebars are easier to find since they come with almost all GMK sets.

6u layout doesn't look as symmetrical, and GMK buys don't always include them. They're in Enjoypbt sets, but again it'll be hard to find matching spacebars if they don't come in 6u.

Think of sets like Hyperfuse, for example, they don't have a matching 6u Spacebar.

As for price, it seems a bit high considering the TKL version was the same price for more material. Hopefully there are some cheaper options.

Beautiful board and great colors however.
Title: Re: [IC] Interest Check for E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Thu, 13 July 2017, 08:15:14
Damn, it looks awesome. So the price is the same with E8 V1?
It will have more options
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Thu, 13 July 2017, 21:08:52
Is the custom Middle USB set in stone? Like the others said, I agree more with the universal (Standard) PCB's that are widely available. You'd be able to use Bootmap, it's just the USB being moved so it's also compatable with any 60% case.

For the HHKB top, I'd go with the 7u version. 7u spacebars are easier to find since they come with almost all GMK sets.

6u layout doesn't look as symmetrical, and GMK buys don't always include them. They're in Enjoypbt sets, but again it'll be hard to find matching spacebars if they don't come in 6u.

Think of sets like Hyperfuse, for example, they don't have a matching 6u Spacebar.

As for price, it seems a bit high considering the TKL version was the same price for more material. Hopefully there are some cheaper options.

Beautiful board and great colors however.
7 u spacebar we will consider it ~ no worries
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: ns90 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 22:21:27
I really like the design, and I'm really interested, but I share the same concerns as others about the PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 13 July 2017, 22:22:48
My question is Does it support split backspace?

and why the option to go with non standard PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Thu, 13 July 2017, 22:32:37
My question is Does it support split backspace?

and why the option to go with non standard PCB?
It support split backspace
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Thu, 13 July 2017, 22:35:14
I really like the design, and I'm really interested, but I share the same concerns as others about the PCB.
Actually ,we dont need debate it again . :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Doluded on Fri, 14 July 2017, 02:33:30
What time will the form be posted on the 15th?

Also, what is the Founder's Edition?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 14 July 2017, 04:40:27
So, will the PCB stay like it is or would you consider a 32u2 or 32u4 powered one at least as an option?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Fri, 14 July 2017, 08:12:16
What time will the form be posted on the 15th?

Also, what is the Founder's Edition?
15th .founder edition we will post in gb link
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: clappingcactus on Fri, 14 July 2017, 09:41:07
Actually one last question: Split spacebar? Looks like the plate doesn't have support for 2.25/1u/2.75u keys.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 14 July 2017, 09:46:32
So, will the PCB stay like it is or would you consider a 32u2 or 32u4 powered one at least as an option?

Please answer.
You already know the PCB factory, and changing files for the other controller shouldn't be that much work, QMK as a firmware is very easy to get running on a 32u4.
If you add the option for the different controller PCB and let people decide what they prefer it might be the best for everyone.
Being able to choose is great. For me who wants it for the lower latency, for people that want to use the advanced functions it offers like tapdancing and also for people that had a bad experience with BMC in general and would rather not use it instead.
People that want to use BMC, can choose just that version.
I wouldn't mind buying multiple PCBs to help with MOQ, maybe we are lucky and the PCBs fit into the Viper/Eagle v2 they can get some as replacements or backups too.

I just want to be able to actually daily this keyboard :(
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Doluded on Fri, 14 July 2017, 13:55:32
What time will the form be posted on the 15th?

Also, what is the Founder's Edition?
15th .founder edition we will post in gb link

This does not answer my question. What specific time will the form be posted
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Fri, 14 July 2017, 20:37:09
Actually one last question: Split spacebar? Looks like the plate doesn't have support for 2.25/1u/2.75u keys.
It will have a option for plate also case and so on
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 14 July 2017, 23:33:12
Here's a thought: put the USB back in the standard Poker location, and then people who don't want a board running ATM32A MCU can use a GH60 PCB in place.

There's no reason to reinvent the wheel here.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sat, 15 July 2017, 01:08:13
Here's a thought: put the USB back in the standard Poker location, and then people who don't want a board running ATM32A MCU can use a GH60 PCB in place.

There's no reason to reinvent the wheel here.
Yea ,there is a way but certainly we dont need bargain it again turely plz :-*
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Cocopah on Sat, 15 July 2017, 01:10:21
Here's a thought: put the USB back in the standard Poker location, and then people who don't want a board running ATM32A MCU can use a GH60 PCB in place.

There's no reason to reinvent the wheel here.

I think hes pretty set on the custom pcb, which is a shame. When he first showed the ev8-v1 it had a non detachable cable and he was willing to offer a detachable cable to accommodate the interest of the community. I wish he was willing to change his mind about the pcb in this case, but it looks like hes unwilling to budge. He wants the center usb to be more common, and I hope he can do that. If he can I'd jump on the next version in a heartbeat. I don't have fate in this decision though. The current standard is so common, I don't see it ever changing.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sat, 15 July 2017, 01:27:40
Here's a thought: put the USB back in the standard Poker location, and then people who don't want a board running ATM32A MCU can use a GH60 PCB in place.

There's no reason to reinvent the wheel here.

I think hes pretty set on the custom pcb, which is a shame. When he first showed the ev8-v1 it had a non detachable cable and he was willing to offer a detachable cable to accommodate the interest of the community. I wish he was willing to change his mind about the pcb in this case, but it looks like hes unwilling to budge. He wants the center usb to be more common, and I hope he can do that. If he can I'd jump on the next version in a heartbeat. I don't have fate in this decision though. The current standard is so common, I don't see it ever changing.

This is IC. truth is we will consider what ppl asking ,the real things make the board we loving
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: techfresh on Sat, 15 July 2017, 02:35:04
+1 for standard USB placement and TMK/QMK. This case design is very attractive. 


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sat, 15 July 2017, 02:48:57
+1 for standard USB placement and TMK/QMK. This case design is very attractive. 


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any way it should be a option i promise
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Lockkkk on Sun, 16 July 2017, 02:45:10
Love this one i`m in
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sun, 16 July 2017, 19:21:45
Love this one i`m in
:thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Lockkkk on Mon, 17 July 2017, 22:00:50
.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 July 2017, 22:52:23
The gb still not open?

GH mods will approve it soon

they can be kinda slow on this sometimes,  as they like to doublecheck lots of stuff
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Lockkkk on Mon, 17 July 2017, 23:58:46
Woo~so is means is gonna happen right ?tanks for you reply
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Lockkkk on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:04:00
The gb still not open?

GH mods will approve it soon

they can be kinda slow on this sometimes,  as they like to doublecheck lots of stuff

 :)) :))
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: afrokobe on Tue, 18 July 2017, 08:53:03
any chance we'll get the tkl shipped before this, I wanted to see quality before jumping on this
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Tue, 18 July 2017, 23:11:48
any chance we'll get the tkl shipped before this, I wanted to see quality before jumping on this
jhoang said is soon  :D
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: jacky on Tue, 18 July 2017, 23:35:50
Fill the form waiting for the GB open
 the uncommon pcb really attract me :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 19 July 2017, 01:39:00
Any chance we are getting a microcontroller/firmware that is TMK/QMK friendly?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Wed, 19 July 2017, 21:43:25
Any chance we are getting a microcontroller/firmware that is TMK/QMK friendly?
It will have two version
promised it~
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: gnmar2723 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 21:53:23
Any chance we are getting a microcontroller/firmware that is TMK/QMK friendly?
It will have two version
promised it~
:D :D
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 20 July 2017, 22:45:00
Hi, What Color PCB will this have?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Thu, 20 July 2017, 23:21:13
Hi, What Color PCB will this have?
It maybe red
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Ball-o-tron on Fri, 21 July 2017, 06:35:12
Do you have any more prototype samples the other colors?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Fri, 21 July 2017, 08:40:54
Do you have any more prototype samples the other colors?

It not have for the prototype i think is enough .hope it helpful :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: lundmore on Sat, 22 July 2017, 05:09:03
Any date set for the groupbuy?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sat, 22 July 2017, 21:39:45
Any date set for the groupbuy?
Is coming soon~
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sun, 23 July 2017, 11:20:23
Hi, What Color PCB will this have?
It maybe red
Any chance for a neutral color like white or black?

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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sun, 23 July 2017, 11:31:34
What's the difference between white anodizing and Micro Arc Oxidation? Any samples? I am wanting a white color. Unclear what I should pick.

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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 23 July 2017, 12:30:36
What's the difference between white anodizing and Micro Arc Oxidation? Any samples? I am wanting a white color. Unclear what I should pick.

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He told me an example of White anode is in the pictures. It looks more Silver than white. White anode is technically not possible, so that's the closest to white it can get.

Microarc is white with a hint of grey, you can see this in their TKL board. This is probably what you want if you'd like a white board.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 23 July 2017, 20:29:24
If I can get an hhkb top like in the renders, I'm 100% in. Absolutely love the brass middle, bet it'd look even better polished.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 23 July 2017, 21:10:16
If I can get an hhkb top like in the renders, I'm 100% in. Absolutely love the brass middle, bet it'd look even better polished.

I didn't even notice that last render with the HHKB top!! It's beautiful.

I really hope there is an option for the brass to have a PVD coating at least, to prevent tarnishing. That way you get your shiny brass and it'll never change color!

A few questions for you guys:

- Will there be an option for a protective coating on the brass?

- Will we be able to get a Brass AND aluminum middle? You guys provided amazing options with your TKL, so I hope this will be similar.

- Also, I know this has been asked countless times, but will there be an option for a standard PCB with the USB on the left side so we can use any normal 60% PCB of our choosing?  I was just confused about the replies provided.

- Is there a date when this GB will go live? I would love to join the founders edition, I don't wanna miss it!

Thanks for bringing your amazing projects to us! Really been loving your work!
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sun, 23 July 2017, 22:09:04
If I can get an hhkb top like in the renders, I'm 100% in. Absolutely love the brass middle, bet it'd look even better polished.
It have hhkb layout and the middle also could be polished
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sun, 23 July 2017, 22:12:43
What's the difference between white anodizing and Micro Arc Oxidation? Any samples? I am wanting a white color. Unclear what I should pick.

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No worries.i will take the pictures between white anode .Micro Arc Oxidation and sliver
hope it helpful
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sun, 23 July 2017, 23:04:40
If I can get an hhkb top like in the renders, I'm 100% in. Absolutely love the brass middle, bet it'd look even better polished.

I didn't even notice that last render with the HHKB top!! It's beautiful.

I really hope there is an option for the brass to have a PVD coating at least, to prevent tarnishing. That way you get your shiny brass and it'll never change color!

A few questions for you guys:

- Will there be an option for a protective coating on the brass?

- Will we be able to get a Brass AND aluminum middle? You guys provided amazing options with your TKL, so I hope this will be similar.

- Also, I know this has been asked countless times, but will there be an option for a standard PCB with the USB on the left side so we can use any normal 60% PCB of our choosing?  I was just confused about the replies provided.

- Is there a date when this GB will go live? I would love to join the founders edition, I don't wanna miss it!

Thanks for bringing your amazing projects to us! Really been loving your work!
Thanks a lot.for the question there is the answers

1.it will have option for  protective coating and polished

2.also have options

3.pcb perhaps wont have the left port but it have 32u4

4.the date depends on how long i can get e8 plate from jhoang .then re-anode it

 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Mon, 24 July 2017, 02:52:18
Hey guys, i wonder those color may be confused so i have make this comparison。

Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 24 July 2017, 03:58:52
Yes, I'm very interested in buying ono with microarc oxidation surface.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 24 July 2017, 04:01:07
Hey guys, i wonder the those color may be confused so i have make this comparison。



Is the microarc oxidation fragile and more prone to scratches and dirt?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Mon, 24 July 2017, 04:49:41
Hey guys, i wonder the those color may be confused so i have make this comparison。



Is the microarc oxidation fragile and more prone to scratches and dirt?
Yea is true but we get a new technology what u said can be avoid and it will use in this gb  no worry :p
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 24 July 2017, 04:52:39
Hey guys, i wonder the those color may be confused so i have make this comparison。



Is the microarc oxidation fragile and more prone to scratches and dirt?
Yea is true but we get a new technology what u said can be avoid and it will use in this gb  no worry :p

Great, I really like this design. I'm definitely in this GB.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: lvince95 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 05:01:03
Hey guys, i wonder those color may be confused so i have make this comparison。

I was wondering, how is the white anode done? I thought white anodizing is impossible, so is it powder coated?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Mon, 24 July 2017, 08:10:26
Hey guys, i wonder those color may be confused so i have make this comparison。

I was wondering, how is the white anode done? I thought white anodizing is impossible, so is it powder coated?
Is really anoding dude 。 is impossible but is happened not powder coated really
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: MiradoBlackWarrior on Mon, 24 July 2017, 10:52:20
Definitely interested in this buy. Does anybody know which switch he has in the real life samples with the orange stems? I was unaware there is a switch that color aside from razor oranges.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: ns90 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 10:55:45
Definitely interested in this buy. Does anybody know which switch he has in the real life samples with the orange stems? I was unaware there is a switch that color aside from razor oranges.

I want to say that the stems are Cherry Hirose orange stems, but it looks like they're in the Nixdorf housing.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Kafka on Mon, 24 July 2017, 12:34:53
Definitely interested in this buy. Does anybody know which switch he has in the real life samples with the orange stems? I was unaware there is a switch that color aside from razor oranges.
I believe the board with the orange stems (hirose orange) is an otd. Not the board this gb is for.


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 24 July 2017, 18:05:14
Definitely interested in this buy. Does anybody know which switch he has in the real life samples with the orange stems? I was unaware there is a switch that color aside from razor oranges.

MOD-H switches have the same stem color.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:29:22
Definitely interested in this buy. Does anybody know which switch he has in the real life samples with the orange stems? I was unaware there is a switch that color aside from razor oranges.

I want to say that the stems are Cherry Hirose orange stems, but it looks like they're in the Nixdorf housing.

That's exactly what it is.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Mon, 24 July 2017, 23:02:11
Definitely interested in this buy. Does anybody know which switch he has in the real life samples with the orange stems? I was unaware there is a switch that color aside from razor oranges.
I believe the board with the orange stems (hirose orange) is an otd. Not the board this gb is for.


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Tue, 25 July 2017, 03:02:03
Definitely interested in this buy. Does anybody know which switch he has in the real life samples with the orange stems? I was unaware there is a switch that color aside from razor oranges.

MOD-H switches have the same stem color.
I think so
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: dqu22 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 09:22:45
Has this buy officially started, or are we still waiting? The form in the original post is just an interest check thing, right?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Tue, 25 July 2017, 09:49:20
Has this buy officially started, or are we still waiting? The form in the original post is just an interest check thing, right?
Pretty sure we're all waiting for Moderators to approve the group buy thread that was submitted on the 15th.

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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 10:13:17
Has this buy officially started, or are we still waiting? The form in the original post is just an interest check thing, right?
Pretty sure we're all waiting for Moderators to approve the group buy thread that was submitted on the 15th.

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I think they will reanodize the E8 plates first before submitting this buy.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Tue, 25 July 2017, 21:12:56
Has this buy officially started, or are we still waiting? The form in the original post is just an interest check thing, right?
Is coming soon  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Kafka on Thu, 27 July 2017, 19:24:29
Impatiently waiting :/


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Lockkkk on Thu, 27 July 2017, 21:25:59
 >:D >:D >:D
Still not open i cant waitttttt @exclusive
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Thu, 27 July 2017, 23:54:19
I didn't know this existed so I am glad the group buy was delayed for a bit. With this and the fjell case coming out I am not sure if I can afford all this but god damn I'm going to try.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Fri, 28 July 2017, 03:46:22
Impatiently waiting :/


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: jhoang on Fri, 28 July 2017, 06:40:25
Hey guys,

Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestions!

So sorry for the delay. We need to handle E8-V1 plates fixing and make changes on the current E6-V2.

1. We have designed another version of E6-V2. It will be compatible with standard 60% PCB.
2. We will also make 2 different versions of PCB. One will use Bootmapper Client, while the other will use TMK/QMK.

We are gonna open the GroupBuy today!  :thumb:

Thanks again!
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 28 July 2017, 07:26:55
Hey guys,

Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestions!

So sorry for the delay. We need to handle E8-V1 plates fixing and make changes on the current E6-V2.

1. We have designed another version of E6-V2. It will be compatible with standard 60% PCB.
2. We will also make 2 different versions of PCB. One will use Bootmapper Client, while the other will use TMK/QMK.

We are gonna open the GroupBuy today!  :thumb:

Thanks again!

hi,

I have a question.  Do you mean you will have both center usb and standard usb for sale, or are you switching?

Also what time will you be putting the group buy for sale? I am going to bed soon but I don't want to miss the opportunity for a Founder's Edition!
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: jhoang on Fri, 28 July 2017, 08:26:39
Hey guys,

Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestions!

So sorry for the delay. We need to handle E8-V1 plates fixing and make changes on the current E6-V2.

1. We have designed another version of E6-V2. It will be compatible with standard 60% PCB.
2. We will also make 2 different versions of PCB. One will use Bootmapper Client, while the other will use TMK/QMK.

We are gonna open the GroupBuy today!  :thumb:

Thanks again!

hi,

I have a question.  Do you mean you will have both center usb and standard usb for sale, or are you switching?

Also what time will you be putting the group buy for sale? I am going to bed soon but I don't want to miss the opportunity for a Founder's Edition!

There are two different version. The dimensions are different between two versions. So we just can re-use Counterweight and name plate!

I have posted the topic. Waiting for approval!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 28 July 2017, 08:39:59
Hey guys,

Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestions!

So sorry for the delay. We need to handle E8-V1 plates fixing and make changes on the current E6-V2.

1. We have designed another version of E6-V2. It will be compatible with standard 60% PCB.
2. We will also make 2 different versions of PCB. One will use Bootmapper Client, while the other will use TMK/QMK.

We are gonna open the GroupBuy today!  :thumb:

Thanks again!

hi,

I have a question.  Do you mean you will have both center usb and standard usb for sale, or are you switching?

Also what time will you be putting the group buy for sale? I am going to bed soon but I don't want to miss the opportunity for a Founder's Edition!

There are two different version. The dimensions are different between two versions. So we just can re-use Counterweight and name plate!

I have posted the topic. Waiting for approval!  :p

Different plate too?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: jhoang on Fri, 28 July 2017, 09:30:27
Hey guys,

Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestions!

So sorry for the delay. We need to handle E8-V1 plates fixing and make changes on the current E6-V2.

1. We have designed another version of E6-V2. It will be compatible with standard 60% PCB.
2. We will also make 2 different versions of PCB. One will use Bootmapper Client, while the other will use TMK/QMK.

We are gonna open the GroupBuy today!  :thumb:

Thanks again!

hi,

I have a question.  Do you mean you will have both center usb and standard usb for sale, or are you switching?

Also what time will you be putting the group buy for sale? I am going to bed soon but I don't want to miss the opportunity for a Founder's Edition!

There are two different version. The dimensions are different between two versions. So we just can re-use Counterweight and name plate!

I have posted the topic. Waiting for approval!  :p

Different plate too?
Yes.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sat, 29 July 2017, 05:52:02
>:D >:D >:D
Still not open i cant waitttttt @exclusive
Is coming
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Kafka on Sat, 29 July 2017, 19:46:59
I need to stop refreshing..


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: gnmar2723 on Sat, 29 July 2017, 20:04:09
I need to stop refreshing..


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Just turn on email notifications for group buy and interest check boards and you will never miss a new thread!
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Kafka on Sat, 29 July 2017, 20:16:31
I need to stop refreshing..


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Just turn on email notifications for group buy and interest check boards and you will never miss a new thread!
I have all the notifications, I just keep pressing the gb link to see when it gets approved haha


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sat, 29 July 2017, 21:41:51
The founders edition is limited wish u guys get it  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Kafka on Sat, 29 July 2017, 21:43:07
The founders edition is limited wish u guys get it  :thumb:
Imma be so sad if it goes up while I'm asleep


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sat, 29 July 2017, 22:20:04
The founders edition is limited wish u guys get it  :thumb:
Imma be so sad if it goes up while I'm asleep


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 29 July 2017, 23:40:57
I forgot to ask, will coated brass switch plates also be available? :)
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Ser[A]ph on Sun, 30 July 2017, 01:27:20
Can anyone access to the GB topic?  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 30 July 2017, 01:28:52
Can anyone access to the GB topic?  :'( :'( :'(
Not yet


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Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sun, 30 July 2017, 02:55:12
I forgot to ask, will coated brass switch plates also be available? :)
Brass plate ?it seems not available .
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Riu on Sun, 30 July 2017, 04:03:13
Are moderators aware of the group buy topic awaiting approval?
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sun, 30 July 2017, 04:44:43
Are moderators aware of the group buy topic awaiting approval?
Yea,still wait for someone to approval it
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Riu on Sun, 30 July 2017, 06:18:44
Are moderators aware of the group buy topic awaiting approval?

Yea,still wait for someone to approval it

I recommend you to communicate with the Moderation Team (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=34190) to ascertain everything is OK.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Sun, 30 July 2017, 07:30:54
Are moderators aware of the group buy topic awaiting approval?

Yea,still wait for someone to approval it

I recommend you to communicate with the Moderation Team (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=34190) to ascertain everything is OK.


Pretty thx for the help
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: skidude9678 on Sun, 30 July 2017, 19:25:06
GB up and running! Now decision time for me haha
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 01 August 2017, 08:24:39
because of the GUI. I'm sure that 90% users do not want to go to an website, config their layout, copy to an other website to make some .hex file then using command line to remap their keyboard.

What users want is this:  Clone a GIT repo, install few dependencies via Brew, change keymap in C file, compile and download hex file to board !
No fiddling with silly GUIs that need specific operating system,  probably, windows only.
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: excluisve on Thu, 03 August 2017, 18:37:28
GB is open  :)
Title: Re: [IC] E6-V2 60% custom keyboard
Post by: techfresh on Tue, 08 August 2017, 02:42:38
I'm in.


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