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Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 05 March 2010, 12:37:12

Check it (http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/03/hands-on-a-close-look-at-ubuntus-new-non-brown-theme.ars?comments=1#comments-bar).  I like it; it looks classy.  I like the font they use, too.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: bigpook on Fri, 05 March 2010, 14:31:01

I don't care for the purple color. Hopefully, it will be easy to change. FWIW, I actually liked the brown/orange defaults that come with.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 05 March 2010, 14:41:51

Quote from: bigpook;162014

I don't care for the purple color. Hopefully, it will be easy to change. FWIW, I actually liked the brown/orange defaults that come with.

That's just the background, so it should be no problem.  I do like the charcoal/orange thing going on.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: TexasFlood on Fri, 05 March 2010, 15:02:23

Quote from: itlnstln;162018

That's just the background, so it should be no problem.  I do like the charcoal/orange thing going on.

I got bored with the default theme and started varying it, think I'm on clearlooks theme right now.  More themes will of course be welcome.  My backgrounds cycle regularly, mostly NASA shots of Nebula.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: bigpook on Fri, 05 March 2010, 15:03:02

true, the charcoal/orange does look interesting. A few more weeks and it will be here.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 05 March 2010, 15:06:09

Quote from: webwit;162020

Interface designers - they are all incompetent. I want my money back. A good reward for them would be tar and feathers and being paraded on the streets.
 
Here is why they are completely incompetent:
 
 
Yeah, the two decade old "cartoon" style from 16 bit still wins easily in usability because it has depth. Today, so much more tools available to them, more power, less result. All for the gradients. Too bad you can't distinguish graphic from button, and so on.

I didn't notice that at first.  That is horrible.  I was too focused on the poor execution of the "channel" where the minimize and close buttons are.  They didn't finish off the left edge.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 05 March 2010, 15:54:12

At least they got rid of the baby **** brown...

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: InSanCen on Fri, 05 March 2010, 15:55:18

I will stick to my Compiz and Emerald.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 05 March 2010, 16:01:10

I'll stick to KDE. I find it a better DE overall than GNOME (despite the disastrous initial releases of KDE4)

A very nice theme for GNOME is the Nimbus theme used by OpenSolaris. It manages to be a nice balance of minimalism and shinyness -

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Opensolaris-screenshot-2008-05.png)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ricercar on Fri, 05 March 2010, 16:59:56

^- what he said.

EDIT. Would have worked better without the page break.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: TexasFlood on Fri, 05 March 2010, 17:10:45

Quote from: webwit;162020

Interface designers - they are all incompetent. I want my money back. A good reward for them would be tar and feathers and being paraded on the streets.

Here is why they are completely incompetent:

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8197&d=1267822632)

Yeah, the two decade old "cartoon" style from 16 bit still wins easily in usability because it has depth. Today, so much more tools available to them, more power, less result. All for the gradients. Too bad you can't distinguish graphic from button, and so on.

Below is what my Ubuntu calculator looks like with clearlooks theme and boxx controls.  I think it looks fine.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8205&stc=1&d=1267830537)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 05 March 2010, 17:26:39

Because Aloomanum is the new black. And black was the new beige.

Someday Awesome and the like will have their day -

(http://images.possumism.net/d/1867-2/haruko-awesome-irssi.png)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: TexasFlood on Fri, 05 March 2010, 17:28:42

Quote from: webwit;162049

It looks better, has some depth, allows for cognitive pattern recognition. The version above that, you cannot even determine you can type in the input/output area, it's a flat white rectangle. Not sure why the clearlook theme wants to make your monitor look like a light colored metal - it is not.

I think my setup looks OK.  And when I no longer do I can change it.  Guess it depends on your preferences.  Isn't that what themes generally do? Make your monitor look like something it is not? :biggrin:

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: TexasFlood on Fri, 05 March 2010, 18:11:16

Quote from: webwit;162055

I'm sure it depends on your preference ;) My problem is, I don't like themes. I like the no-theme theme. All themes remind me of photoshop plugins over 10 years ago. And if I'm looking at my desktop background, I'm doing something wrong. It's like staring blankly at your desk.

I tend to like 'em pretty plain as well, just enough different nice colors with some contrast to allow me to see what I need to see.

So I noticed one of the default control options is "redmond".  Here is the calculator with that set, looks a lot more familiar eh? :wink:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8206&stc=1&d=1267834230)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: HaaTa on Sat, 06 March 2010, 08:10:09

I use xcalc.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8207&stc=1&d=1267884395)

Plain, simple, and already installed.



I'll never make it as a GUI designer, as my first comment will always be:

Needs more command-line options


At which point the Apple nerds will call me a heretic.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 06 March 2010, 08:13:32

For me, I don't really care too much about how pretty the interface is. As long as it gets the job done well, I'm happy. All that transparency stuff really does is bog down my computers.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: bigpook on Sat, 06 March 2010, 08:47:10

I do care to some degree how the inerface looks. But yes, it really is personal pref. If you spend hours looking at a screen, it doesn't hurt to have it look 'pretty'. Feel free to define 'pretty' as you wish.
I like gnome with all of the eye candy turned on and kde isn't too shabby either. But I have the hardware to run it.
On older machines something like crunchbang would work for me, but its not something I would want to use long term.

I think that the windows calculator and xcalc, while usable, look like ass. just my opinion.


And no, I don't like unicorns and rainbows and don't have narwhals and bacon on my desktop : )

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 06 March 2010, 09:06:55

Quote from: microsoft windows;162110

All that transparency stuff really does is bog down my computers.

This is the price you pay for defining yourself by how slow your computers are.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: itlnstln on Sat, 06 March 2010, 09:38:20

For the most part, Windows 7 does a good gob of making itself "disappear" so you can focus on tasks.*  Of course it depends on how it's configured.  For most applications and navigation, this applies, but things like calculator got borked.  The usability is fine, but the glossy, blue "theme" is odd.
 
*I have Aero enabled with a color-neutral theme, so windows disappear into the background.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 06 March 2010, 09:57:47

XCalc is pretty good.  I put it on a menu for when I'm lazy, :wink:
I haven't changed distros in a long time, or really tweaked my theme in a long time.  This thread got me looking at theme tweaks but I'll forget about it soon enough.  I basically don't care much about the look of the GUI so long as it doesn't distract me.
There are other good calculators you can easily add, such as multiple RPN ones and emulators of real calculators like:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8208&stc=1&d=1267890921)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: bigpook on Sat, 06 March 2010, 10:58:25

Quote from: ripster;162125

I don't get this.  Linux guys spend all their times distro hopping.  THEN they spend all their time tweaking themes?

I only care about the wallpaper.

Show Image

(http://wallpapers.skins.be/zooey-deschanel/zooey-deschanel-1024x768-29555.jpg)

And my calculator looks best.

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2675&stc=1&d=1245171929)

but there are so many distros to try : ) and there are so many themes to try too. It is endless hours of entertainment for some of us.

don't even get me started on wallpaper.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: kishy on Sat, 06 March 2010, 11:30:55

Alright, maybe I was wrong when I recently said that Linux isn't something you use, it's the method for doing other stuff.

Apparently, Windows is a tool for doing other stuff, while Linux is a counterproductive game?

Come on Linux users, represent yourselves better. I'm just saying what you've already said. I've no opinion one way or the other, I think an OS is a means for doing stuff on your computer, not the stuff you do, but it's looking kind of backwards when the OS becomes the thing you're doing.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: bigpook on Sat, 06 March 2010, 12:03:18

Quote from: kishy;162157

Alright, maybe I was wrong when I recently said that Linux isn't something you use, it's the method for doing other stuff.

Apparently, Windows is a tool for doing other stuff, while Linux is a counterproductive game?

Come on Linux users, represent yourselves better. I'm just saying what you've already said. I've no opinion one way or the other, I think an OS is a means for doing stuff on your computer, not the stuff you do, but it's looking kind of backwards when the OS becomes the thing you're doing.

all work, no play, makes for a dull time.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: kishy on Sat, 06 March 2010, 12:05:19

Quote from: bigpook;162165

all work, no play makes for a dull time.

I didn't say there shouldn't be games and fun.

Just that the OS itself shouldn't be the games and fun...the OS is the means to get to the games and fun.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 06 March 2010, 12:46:01

Quote from: bigpook;162165

all work, no play, makes for a dull time.

(http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/all_work.jpg)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: TexasFlood on Sat, 06 March 2010, 12:48:05

Quote from: kishy;162157

Come on Linux users, represent yourselves better.

Since I'm on a "Shining" theme...

(http://www.moviemobsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/shining_twins_1.jpg)
Hello kishy. Come and play with Linus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds), kishy. Forever, and ever, and ever.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: kishy on Sat, 06 March 2010, 13:00:47

Quote from: TexasFlood;162172

Show Image

(http://www.moviemobsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/shining_twins_1.jpg)

Hello kishy. Come and play with Linus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds), kishy. Forever, and ever, and ever.

But Linus is no fun at my software piracy parties!

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: bigpook on Sat, 06 March 2010, 13:04:17

Quote from: kishy;162166

Just that the OS itself shouldn't be the games and fun...

um, for some of us, mostly me I suppose, it is.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: Xuan on Sat, 06 March 2010, 15:21:59

I prefer wcalc

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8212&stc=1&d=1267910489)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: In Stereo! on Sun, 07 March 2010, 22:26:21

Quote from: webwit;162161

lame thread needs more bsd.

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Show Image

(http://art4linux.org/system/files/bsd.jpg)

how do i flash?!

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ricercar on Mon, 08 March 2010, 17:08:29

BSD is a model M away from BSDM?

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 09 March 2010, 11:02:24

Quote from: ricercar;162608

BSD is a model M away from BSDM?

Nice.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: InSanCen on Wed, 10 March 2010, 17:14:28

Will be giving BSD a run tonight. I've not had a play with it yet. I did intend to try out most Distro's at one point, but kind of got hooked on Gentoo, and the speed a properly configured setup can produce.

Should I expect anything radically different to my Gentoo/Ubuntu experience?

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 10 March 2010, 17:27:43

Gentoo would be very BSD like, as emerge is based on BSD ports. Some things may be configured slightly differently... Does Gentoo use BSD init or Sys V init? Slack and Arch use BSD init, makes things easier to configure.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 12 March 2010, 15:58:10

Some of the Firefox 3.7 screenshots around look like Chrome... Not a bad idea given how IE6-like Firefox looks these days.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 12 March 2010, 16:42:08

There's a KDE browser called Rekonq which is very similar to Chrome (or should that be Khrome?) in terms of GUI and the webkit backend. It's in alpha stage at the moment though, and it shows. Hopefully whoever is developing it will continue it to a fully workable stage.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 12 March 2010, 17:00:45

Chrome is slow as moleasses on my computers. Mozilla, Opera, and Internet Explorer run much better.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 12 March 2010, 17:03:36

I'm surprised it even works on Win2k.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: InSanCen on Fri, 12 March 2010, 18:03:46

Quote from: webwit;163478

Yes, hot, young, and scarcely and kinky dressed women will pop up from seemingly nowhere and want to mate with you.

If that includes most of the women from your montage, I will ditch all other OS's, forever, including Gentoo. I will even ditch poker on Win7, and struggle with the Molasses that is Photoshop under wine.

I suspect that I will also be getting into some serious trouble with the other half... unless there is something she hasn't told me yet.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: InSanCen on Fri, 12 March 2010, 18:32:06

Quote from: ripster;163528

My wife wasn't interested in wearing the devil outfit.

I'm wondering if the pain would be worth the reaction just before heavy things fly in my direction...

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: Taliesin on Fri, 12 March 2010, 21:40:11

Quote from: webwit;163478

Yes, hot, young, and scarcely and kinky dressed women will pop up from seemingly nowhere and want to mate with you.

Is this what guys think as you download porn from the internet?

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: D-EJ915 on Fri, 12 March 2010, 23:26:29

Quote from: HaaTa;162109

I use xcalc.

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8207&stc=1&d=1267884395)

Plain, simple, and already installed.



I'll never make it as a GUI designer, as my first comment will always be:

Needs more command-line options


At which point the Apple nerds will call me a heretic.

haha old looking xcalc

(http://dej915.darktech.org:8080/mine/screencaps/xcalc.jpg)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 03:22:43

But Mommy, I want a Digital calculator!

(http://toastytech.com/guis/DWcalcsbig.gif)

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 13 March 2010, 11:11:38

Nice. My first Laughing out loud today.

Title: Ubuntu's New Themes
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 16 March 2010, 15:19:00

Quote from: webwit;163477

I don't see tens of millions of dollars in development each year... I think some people got very comfortable, working for the Mozilla Foundation.

I'll be a step more cynical - software companies tend towards efficiency on a mass scale. It's not corruption - just waste on a mass scale. Who knows how many billions have been sunk into IE... and that thing hasn't been a market leader since it was still a ripoff of Mosiac or whatever it was licensed from.