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Title: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: ullr on Tue, 11 July 2017, 14:22:51: I have wanted a set of sculpted SA blanks for a long time, and it seems to me that a group buy is long overdue.

I think a maximalist layout is not a bad idea considering the price will hopefully be lower than that of a set of double shot or dyed caps.

I was tentatively considering two kits, one for fairly normal layouts from full sized to 60%, and one for more uncommon layouts

(http://i.imgur.com/pvtnL4J.png)

Let me know if you think coverage is lacking in any way, or what color is a good idea. Everything is up for debate including how (where?) the group buy is held.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: gnmar2723 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 16:24:58: If you're going to do this in black, do NN. I think that is the most common black from SA sets as it was featured in Pulse and Modern Selectric.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: zslane on Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:42:32: NN is the closest thing SP has to a true BLACK for SA. Unfortunately, not all row profiles are available for all key sizes. Row 1 is particularly hard to find. There may even be some sizes for which there are no rows available at all right now.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:01:08: Instabuy. Please let's do this. The only thing I need that I don't see is an extra left shift (to fill out an fc660c).

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: ullr on Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:20:31: Quote from: zslane on Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:42:32
NN is the closest thing SP has to a true BLACK for SA. Unfortunately, not all row profiles are available for all key sizes. Row 1 is particularly hard to find. There may even be some sizes for which there are no rows available at all right now.

Are the capabilities for blank keycap molding somehow different from double shot? Every key in the image has been produced with a double shot legend AFAIK.

Quote from: sodiumjoe on Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:01:08
Instabuy. Please let's do this. The only thing I need that I don't see is an extra left shift (to fill out an fc660c).

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There is an extra in the second to last row, the last key. I’ll update the image with sizes for clarity.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:26:28: Quote from: ullr on Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:20:31
Quote from: zslane on Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:42:32
NN is the closest thing SP has to a true BLACK for SA. Unfortunately, not all row profiles are available for all key sizes. Row 1 is particularly hard to find. There may even be some sizes for which there are no rows available at all right now.

Are the capabilities for blank keycap molding somehow different from double shot? Every key in the image has been produced with a double shot legend AFAIK.

Quote from: sodiumjoe on Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:01:08
Instabuy. Please let's do this. The only thing I need that I don't see is an extra left shift (to fill out an fc660c).

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There is an extra in the second to last row, the last key. I’ll update the image with sizes for clarity.

Fantastic. I'm in for two.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: zslane on Wed, 12 July 2017, 12:09:27: Quote from: ullr on Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:20:31
Are the capabilities for blank keycap molding somehow different from double shot? Every key in the image has been produced with a double shot legend AFAIK.

No, I was just stupid. I thought you were asking about SA blanks available from the PMK webstore. Apologies for the confusion.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: SteezeTrain on Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:03:52: I would buy this set! I was trying to put together an SA blank set from crapbags. This is much more attractive.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Wed, 12 July 2017, 14:40:31: Yea, count me in =D
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: kimusan on Wed, 12 July 2017, 15:54:37: Count me in. Would love to have this keycaps set
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 12 July 2017, 21:26:48: I'd probably buy as long as price wasn't too bad. Though the real question is would blanks still have 9month queue lol

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Wed, 12 July 2017, 23:05:05: I took the liberty of linking to this thread on a couple of subreddits: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6mvd6y/ic_sa_black_blanks/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6mvd6y/ic_sa_black_blanks/) and https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/6mw2t8/ic_blanblack_sa/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/6mw2t8/ic_blanblack_sa/).
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: Krakob on Thu, 13 July 2017, 02:20:50: I would definitely be interested if pricing and timing is reasonable. Not really interested if it's going to be $70+ and ship in a year.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: Hazzula on Thu, 13 July 2017, 02:26:52: Interested. Saw that blank set on ali express but it didnt have any R1 so this would be better

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: giammin on Thu, 13 July 2017, 03:31:56: Quote from: Krakob on Thu, 13 July 2017, 02:20:50
I would definitely be interested if pricing and timing is reasonable. Not really interested if it's going to be $70+ and ship in a year.

me too

also interested in a darkgray set...
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: ShishKabobJerry on Thu, 13 July 2017, 03:37:39: This would be sick.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: toneman77 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 04:06:37: i am definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:05:57: Hopefully we're talking about PBT for these?
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Sat, 15 July 2017, 13:56:09: also want to make sure we have deep dish homing keys?

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 15 July 2017, 20:36:00: Quote from: sodiumjoe on Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:05:57
Hopefully we're talking about PBT for these?

OP said "sculpted SA" and SP currently only has row 3 molds for PBT SA. So these would have to be ABS.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Sat, 15 July 2017, 21:31:09: oh interesting, I didn't realize the same molds couldn't be used for the different plastics. That's unfortunate.

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: SpectreiiI on Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:01:50: Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 15 July 2017, 20:36:00
Quote from: sodiumjoe on Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:05:57
Hopefully we're talking about PBT for these?

OP said "sculpted SA" and SP currently only has row 3 molds for PBT SA. So these would have to be ABS.
I have yet to see anything other than R3.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:05:01: Hmm, well I've only had experience with cheap, thin abs, maybe I could live with sp abs. Are you sure the molds can't be used for either plastic, though? I know kbdfans is offering a blank SA 22333 set, I believe from maxkeys, who has sp's old molds.

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: mason on Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:05:57: I'm in :)
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 16 July 2017, 00:18:01: Quote from: sodiumjoe on Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:05:01
Hmm, well I've only had experience with cheap, thin abs, maybe I could live with sp abs. Are you sure the molds can't be used for either plastic, though? I know kbdfans is offering a blank SA 22333 set, I believe from maxkeys, who has sp's old molds.

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Honestly, I really like the feel of the ABS on the SA profile. I haven't tried their new PBT SA sets yet (waiting on sculpted profile). But ABS is not a bad thing as many people make it out to be.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: sodiumjoe on Sun, 16 July 2017, 00:19:29: I'm mostly concerned about the sound, I'm planning to try it on my novatouched fc660c.

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: dr_derivative on Sun, 16 July 2017, 06:54:25: I'm interested :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 16 July 2017, 14:00:54: Really want a numpad blank kit! but will take a kit for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: piercejenkins on Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:01:48: Sign me up for this. Will this be done by maxkey or sp?
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: kamilakas on Thu, 20 July 2017, 02:56:59: I'm interested

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Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: ullr on Thu, 20 July 2017, 16:31:30: Quote from: piercejenkins on Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:01:48
Sign me up for this. Will this be done by maxkey or sp?

Maxkey does not have the molds for many of the keys in the current configuration, so it would have to be SP I think.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Thu, 20 July 2017, 17:49:18: Quote from: ullr on Thu, 20 July 2017, 16:31:30
Quote from: piercejenkins on Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:01:48
Sign me up for this. Will this be done by maxkey or sp?

Maxkey does not have the molds for many of the keys in the current configuration, so it would have to be SP I think.

Ahh, fair enough. The only reason I'd prefer maxkey is the price. I'm definitely in for a SP set of blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 20 July 2017, 19:36:57: Hi all - I spoke with ullr and we're consolidating the thread to a new IC here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90680.0

I have received some quotes and timing from SP already so we're trying to get this going and hopefully start a GB in August if there is interest.