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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 July 2017, 09:38:06

Title: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 July 2017, 09:38:06
The ongoing topic of aging population and sub-replacement rate fertility Grossly misses the mark.






---> The Sun shines on the earth

--->  plants convert it to building blocks for animals,
--->  humans eat the plants,
--->  Make Babies.



That's how it was..    With advancements of society and intellect, we have..

---> The Sun shines on the earth

--->  plants convert it to building blocks for animals,
--->  humans eat the plants,
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Babies.



TODAY.

---> The Sun shines on the earth

--->  plants convert it to building blocks for animals,
--->  humans eat the plants,
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->  Make Gadgets.
--->   Make Babies.




It doesn't matter how you try to manipulate money in the workplace, or how many old people you force back into labor..


Once you've decided that you want gadgets more than children...  The decline is set..



The Solution CAN NOT be framed in terms of reducing consumption..     nothing is ever created or destroyed,   we really have to be accurate about the idea that the Human process is a Conversion of Sunlight into Souls..



You have a continuous TRILLION dollars industry  converting Human effort and lives INTO electronics..    Most of these items DO NOT and often WORK against the desire to Invest into  __ Babies __


Babies are boring,  they suck at math, they can't do nothing,  can't run Crysis on a baby..     

But jesus christ,  Those of you lucky enough to haz a female,    Please produce at least 3x..    2 to replace ,  and 1 more for America- Great- Again.
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 13 July 2017, 09:50:49
We need LESS humans being born. Not more.
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 13 July 2017, 10:03:58
Confirmed. I am a chat bot.
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: dante on Thu, 13 July 2017, 10:44:51
Everyone is trying to ram AI down our throats yet ...... They want to first put people on Mars?  Why not send robots androids first and let them do the grunt work.

Seems a lot less risky, no?
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: robotsokk on Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:03:18
Everyone is trying to ram AI down our throats yet ...... They want to first put people on Mars?  Why not send robots androids first and let them do the grunt work.

Seems a lot less risky, no?

We have sent robots/rovers to Mars, multiple times... But for the same reason we were drawn to walk on the moon or explore Earth itself, there's no replacement for directly experiencing some things yourself. (Obviously, for those two examples I just gave, more motivations are/were in play than an urge to explore...)

I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.


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Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: dante on Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:47:47
I realize we've sent robots in the past; I'm referring to sending much more advanced models with enhanced AI.
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 13 July 2017, 13:59:06
I realize we've sent robots in the past; I'm referring to sending much more advanced models with enhanced AI.

But than how will we have another matt daemon movie? 
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 July 2017, 14:07:32
I realize we've sent robots in the past; I'm referring to sending much more advanced models with enhanced AI.

But than how will we have another matt daemon movie? 

Freeze him now,  and thaw him out whenever we need a movie..
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: chyros on Thu, 13 July 2017, 17:50:11
All life is, is patterns that happen to be self-perpetuating. Anybody who tells you any different is GROSSLY missing the point of natural law.
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 17:55:03
What did they put in the green stuff that you've been eating lately tp?
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: ygor on Thu, 13 July 2017, 19:07:31
This is the best thread title since the butt eaters.
Title: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: robotsokk on Thu, 13 July 2017, 19:11:12
This is the best thread title since the butt eaters.

...uh, what? I'm almost afraid to search for it, for fear of what other random threads I might end up uncovering xD


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Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 13 July 2017, 19:16:48
This is the best thread title since the butt eaters.

...uh, what? I'm almost afraid to search for it, for fear of what other random threads I might end up uncovering xD


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Don't worry, it was removed like half my off-topic threads
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: ygor on Thu, 13 July 2017, 19:20:54
Don't worry, it was removed like half my off-topic threads

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Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 July 2017, 20:07:28
What did they put in the green stuff that you've been eating lately tp?

I think what's happening is,  my arteries are clearing up so much,  that I'm getting TOO MUCH blood flow to my brain.. bringing upon this state of non-nonsensical delirium.
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 13 July 2017, 20:28:54
Everyone is trying to ram AI down our throats yet ...... They want to first put people on Mars?  Why not send robots androids first and let them do the grunt work.

Seems a lot less risky, no?
Have you not seen the original Star Trek movie... They come back, smarter, trying to find their creator... And then it just gets weird.
Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: Shapey Fiend on Thu, 13 July 2017, 20:53:10
People are going on about the planet being overpopulated since the 1800's I don't really think we're headed towards irreversible collapse.

They're always talking about crisis and fear being the stimulation for consumption but it's probably lack of drama that's doing that. If you're in actual peril you're going to be baby makin' cos death is all around you. We're overdue a world war or a good plague.

Currently sitting up at 3am with a feverish 2 year old. Doesn't happen much. Kids are easier than adults most of the time and when they aren't it's easy forgive them for It. Having dependents is a nice motivator I'd spend my life procrastinating otherwise. I don't know how people can have 3+ babies close together though without 4 year gaps it'd be incredibly hard work.

Title: Re: The robots are killing us already..
Post by: futurecrime on Fri, 14 July 2017, 08:20:22
People are going on about the planet being overpopulated since the 1800's I don't really think we're headed towards irreversible collapse.

They're always talking about crisis and fear being the stimulation for consumption but it's probably lack of drama that's doing that. If you're in actual peril you're going to be baby makin' cos death is all around you. We're overdue a world war or a good plague.

Currently sitting up at 3am with a feverish 2 year old. Doesn't happen much. Kids are easier than adults most of the time and when they aren't it's easy forgive them for It. Having dependents is a nice motivator I'd spend my life procrastinating otherwise. I don't know how people can have 3+ babies close together though without 4 year gaps it'd be incredibly hard work.

Yeah by all accounts it's a ****ing nightmare but I think people do it to get the really demanding bit out of the way in one big lump.  I can't imagine finally carting my kid off to school then going right let's start again with another one.