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Title: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 30 July 2017, 07:45:04
GMK Wizardry
GMK Wizardry is my idea of what a tri-colored keyset could look like.
It uses warm white (CP) and black (N9) as base colors and three vibrant accent colors: blue (N9), purple (DY) and red (RO2).

The color scheme is taken from the DotA hero Invoker and WoW's Mage class.
They feature three elements with the accent colors.

TODO List:

Edit 9/9/17:
Duck Viper-esque style keyboard render:
(https://i.imgur.com/LzMfONT.jpg)

What do you think about the new win logo? I think it would be a nice change. Also the alphas seem really bland to me here, will try out more in the coming weeks.

Edit 8/26/17:
New render. Corrected modifier legends. Overall colors are now closer to GMK's color sample photographs.
Also used V1 as red for this, it seems to better fit the fire element to me, what do you think?
(https://image.ibb.co/cXeJNQ/render.png)

Edit 8/24/17:
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I tried my hands on Blender to create a 3D render of a TKL waering GMK Wizardry.
As this is very new for me I need some time to get the colors right and Icons as well.
Probably going with just Icon mods.
(http://i.imgur.com/AjA9mUp.jpg)

Edit 8/8/17:
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I looked into more details like compatibility over the weekend.
The following keys should support HHKB, 1800, 75%, US-ISO, UK-US-ISO Hybrid, WKL:
(http://i.imgur.com/4OWFHNo.png)
There are obvious errors left in the layout (\ and # ISO keys should be R3, one set of arrow keys should be non-accented)

Question: Should this set support numpad? It doesn't seem to fit to me, maybe you guys have a different opinion?
All the different colors for enters, esc and HJKL seems a bit too much to me now, so I will probably reduce them to a handful of sensable choices, if you agree.

Edit 8/1/17:
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Do you like the name GMK Wizardry? It's basically the first thing that came to mind, but now I'm thinking GMK Elements would be more neutral and classic sounding, what do you think?

Initial Renders:
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(http://i.imgur.com/sflG4J8.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/PV51GDu.png)

Please post any opinions on this, open for any suggestions.
Title: Re: GMK Wizardry
Post by: IonutZ on Sun, 30 July 2017, 07:49:30
I like it!

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Title: Re: GMK Wizardry
Post by: skidude9678 on Sun, 30 July 2017, 08:39:25
Nice set, I'm a fan. Count me interested.
Title: Re: GMK Wizardry
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 30 July 2017, 08:57:48
I dig it


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Title: Re: GMK Wizardry
Post by: RevoTeam on Sun, 30 July 2017, 10:45:21
looks nice. I like this color way. would buy it if the price is all right...
Title: Re: GMK Wizardry
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 30 July 2017, 12:50:40
Row profiles please?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 30 July 2017, 14:34:33
Very Creative! Would be interested too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Sun, 30 July 2017, 17:35:26
Yeah i like this set a lot nice mix of colors that pop but still subtle somehow
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: romevi on Sun, 30 July 2017, 19:07:10
I actually whipped up something like this late last year.

But bee hated it. :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Mon, 31 July 2017, 01:42:46
Cool that People are actually interested.
I will flesh out more of the details like profiles and compatibility until next weekend.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: omegafivethreefive on Tue, 01 August 2017, 06:51:51
Pretty dope
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: merintil on Tue, 01 August 2017, 07:52:49
Very interesting, I'm on board with this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: skidude9678 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:12:32
Also, in terms of the name, I think Wizardry suits the set better than elements, especially considering the inspiration behind the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 04 August 2017, 20:05:45
What about " GMK Alchemy"?


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: stevenpa on Sat, 05 August 2017, 17:44:15
Pretty cool, I'm a fan.

It also kind of reminds me of BMW M colors as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 05 August 2017, 20:41:27
I'm surprised, but I actually really dig it. Wizard novelties would be rad, but not a make-or-break
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: punksinatra on Mon, 07 August 2017, 13:37:16
Nice idea about tri-color.. Never expected it would look this nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:23:25
I looked into more details like compatibility over the weekend.
The following keys should support HHKB, 1800, 75%, US-ISO, UK-US-ISO Hybrid, WKL:
(http://i.imgur.com/4OWFHNo.png)

Question: Should this set support numpad? It doesn't seem to fit to me, maybe you guys have a different opinion?
All the different colors for enters, esc and HJKL seems a bit too much to me now, so I will probably reduce them to a handful of sensable choices, if you agree.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: romevi on Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:36:43
I want it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: romevi on Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:43:43
WHOA. WAIT. No icons at all on the modifiers?

Eww...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 08 August 2017, 01:33:26
So many alphas so little R5 mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Tue, 08 August 2017, 02:02:09
So many alphas so little R5 mods.
Noted


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: merintil on Tue, 08 August 2017, 10:01:49
Is that a split backspace I see?

I'm definitely in now!

Is it possible to make the icon on the split backspace a little larger?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: condekind on Tue, 08 August 2017, 11:31:48
I think orange instead of red would look better. It would reflect fire better and also give a portal feeling in case you don't run the colored alphas. I like the idea though, I love invoker, even though I suck with him haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 08 August 2017, 17:07:12
This is among the best keycap set along with GMK Dolce & Gabana! :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Tue, 08 August 2017, 17:19:03
Is that a split backspace I see?

I'm definitely in now!

Is it possible to make the icon on the split backspace a little larger?

Legends are definitely not final, this is just created with kle-render out of simplicity before contacting GMK to have more agile creation process
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: lovelovelovely on Wed, 09 August 2017, 00:14:26
Very Creative! Would be interested too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 18:26:54
I tried my hands on Blender to create a 3D render of a TKL waering GMK Wizardry.
As this is very new for me I need some time to get the colors right and Icons as well.
Probably going with just Icon mods.

(http://i.imgur.com/AjA9mUp.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: GSV-CargoCult on Fri, 25 August 2017, 06:42:05
I love this colorway, but I'd love it more with UK ISO support - Any chance of adding that in?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 08:14:41
I love this colorway, but I'd love it more with UK ISO support - Any chance of adding that in?

So far I think it doesn't make sense to include anything non-essential into the base kit. You can already fill a UK ISO keycap with the preliminary base set.
If enough people want international legends a secondary kit should do the trick that will support many different languages, but I'm not sure which at this point. I have many other things to figure out and think about before internationalization.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: sundin on Fri, 25 August 2017, 09:54:29
Nice! I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: lovelovelovely on Fri, 25 August 2017, 23:42:58
I am in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: romevi on Sat, 26 August 2017, 12:44:29
Icon mods are best mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 16:45:38
New render. Corrected modifier legends. Overall colors are now closer to GMK's color sample photographs.
Also used V1 as red for this, it seems to better fit the fire element to me, what do you think?
(https://image.ibb.co/cXeJNQ/render.png)

Icon mods are best mods.

Will also try it, I agree it might look very good. If I have renders of each that I am happy with we can better compare them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 26 August 2017, 17:03:50
digging this special if we could get wasd keys in Red, Blue, Purple!! I like the wizard name also! The colors match it!

Red = Health Potion or Fire
Blue = Mana Potion Ice/Water
Purple = rejuvenation potion. / Arcane

what kinda special where you thinking of including? ... now wondering if any ones done a DND inspired set. :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 15:03:05
digging this special if we could get wasd keys in Red, Blue, Purple!! I like the wizard name also! The colors match it!

Red = Health Potion or Fire
Blue = Mana Potion Ice/Water
Purple = rejuvenation potion. / Arcane

what kinda special where you thinking of including? ... now wondering if any ones done a DND inspired set. :P

I'm not sure what will be the best way to split the keys, but probably all the crazy accents (MOBA-style keys, Invoker spells, WASD) will be in a separate subset.

Novelties; I think it will be best to have say 4+ for each color, such that you could fill F1-4, F5-8 and F9-12 each with a different color. Not sure what imagery I will use, maybe icons of each element that resemble classic spells from either DotA or WoW like meteor, ice block, arcane power.

DnD could also be a nice inspiration to get ideas from, thanks!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: GSV-CargoCult on Mon, 28 August 2017, 09:57:05
You can already fill a UK ISO keycap with the preliminary base set.

I know it seems inessential for the ANSI master race, but it makes a massive difference for us in the UK to not have to buy an international kit with 30+ extra keys. Adding UK ISO to the base is only 5 extra keys (R1 back tick, 2 and 3, R2 @ And #.

Go on. I'll be your best mate :D either that or ditch the ISO enters from base and make a UK kit 😜
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:03:05
You can already fill a UK ISO keycap with the preliminary base set.

I know it seems inessential for the ANSI master race, but it makes a massive difference for us in the UK to not have to buy an international kit with 30+ extra keys. Adding UK ISO to the base is only 5 extra keys (R1 back tick, 2 and 3, R2 @ And #.

Go on. I'll be your best mate :D either that or ditch the ISO enters from base and make a UK kit 😜

Haha, tbh I am from Germany and would prefer ISO in everything as well, but considering a large portion of the target audience doesn't want/need those keys it would not be a good choice.
My thought was to have US-ISO support to cover ISO with the smallest amount of extra keys, so everybody could at least fill their ISO board with keys, even when legends are not 100% correct, which would be corrected by the extra international set.
Maybe UK ISO is a better default to include in the base set, but I guess I will need to estimate that by a vote at some point.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: lecorsair on Wed, 30 August 2017, 18:36:55
Really funky in a lovely way, definitely interested. I noticed a/s/r do not have alternate legends, is that firm or are you still working on it? Also, please please consider adding 1u Ctrl and Alt modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Thu, 31 August 2017, 06:43:09
Really funky in a lovely way, definitely interested. I noticed a/s/r do not have alternate legends, is that firm or are you still working on it? Also, please please consider adding 1u Ctrl and Alt modifiers.

Nothing is final yet! Thanks for the feedback!


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 31 August 2017, 12:50:32
I don't understand this at all.  :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: odd on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:03:00
Sign me up, looks awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: Xaniphon on Mon, 04 September 2017, 00:40:32
Damn this set looks nice :0  Seems to be really big for a base kit, Id consider moving some of the accents to another kit?  Like the HJKL with arrows and the coloured QWE keys, and coloured arrows with black legends would seem more fitting to me in another "Accent Kit". 

Also at least 1x 2u shift would be essential for me and many others, and its only 1 extra key, either in the main kit or an extension kit.  Extension kit could also offer key support for other popular but exotic layouts such as pg up&pg down for tada68 / split spacebar layouts etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Fri, 08 September 2017, 19:22:02
Duck Viper-esque style keyboard render:
(https://i.imgur.com/LzMfONT.jpg)
What do you think about the new win logo? I think it would be a nice change. Also the alphas seem really bland to me here, will try out more in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 08 September 2017, 22:35:08
Duck Viper-esque style keyboard render:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LzMfONT.jpg)

What do you think about the new win logo? I think it would be a nice change. Also the alphas seem really bland to me here, will try out more in the coming weeks.

I'm liking this better. You should also consider adding a blue a, purple s, red d. I'd never use the colored Q or W. But an accent wasd could be interesting.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 11:46:02
Duck Viper-esque style keyboard render:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LzMfONT.jpg)

What do you think about the new win logo? I think it would be a nice change. Also the alphas seem really bland to me here, will try out more in the coming weeks.

I'm liking this better. You should also consider adding a blue a, purple s, red d. I'd never use the colored Q or W. But an accent wasd could be interesting.

You can't really divide 3 colors on 4 keys without it looking really weird, I might offer blue WASD, as it is on the very left side of the keyboard, but the MOBA keys will also be included. Even if you don't use them, I think many other people play this type of game.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 12:53:05
Duck Viper-esque style keyboard render:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LzMfONT.jpg)

What do you think about the new win logo? I think it would be a nice change. Also the alphas seem really bland to me here, will try out more in the coming weeks.

I'm liking this better. You should also consider adding a blue a, purple s, red d. I'd never use the colored Q or W. But an accent wasd could be interesting.

You can't really divide 3 colors on 4 keys without it looking really weird, I might offer blue WASD, as it is on the very left side of the keyboard, but the MOBA keys will also be included. Even if you don't use them, I think many other people play this type of game.

I never said to remove them. I have no issue with buying them. But they will just collect dust in the tray for many.

My point was the w would be reusable if you did what I suggest.

You would have blue a, purple w and s and red d.

a Blue WASD is fine too, but that means adding 4 keys instead of 3.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: sundin on Sat, 11 November 2017, 17:14:08
Nothing new?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 04:56:27
Nothing new?

Sorry, I just moved and ever since was not really motivated to work on this more.

GMK market seems to be filled up anyways right now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: baxxt14 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 07:51:50
That's pretty neat. The windows keys in some of the renders are kind of unappealing though (bright blue on red and vice versa)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 19 January 2018, 13:30:16
Is this set going to happen? I dig..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: s3vv4 on Sat, 20 January 2018, 11:14:56
Is this set going to happen? I dig..

It will happen eventually.
I want to have better renders first however, as well as some novelty caps.

I'm not good at any good CAD program except for blender, which seems to be really limited with what details I can put on cases...
Also, I finished studying and got a full-time job which keeps me very busy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wizardry
Post by: Marutks on Sat, 20 January 2018, 11:48:48
looks nice,  but I wouldn't buy keycaps with "win" only meta key labels  :p