Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:16:56
Some of you might remember i made an IC for mouse pad and a mouse speicial editions which matches your keyset. Say mice and mouse pad which suit the style of the keyset - be it Nautilus, Hyperfuse or what ever the popular keyset is. Though the keysets were taken just as examples but i hope if this here succeeds to see mouse pads also for these awesome keysets. As the title says we are talking here about the Carbon version of the Artisan Hayate Large size (420 x 330 x 4 mm) mouse pad. Link: https://www.artisan-jp.com/item_hayate_mid_eng.html
Anyway we did some progress and we got in contact with Artisan. Someone might know him but most probably the majority does not know Artisan. Well Artisan is manufacturer of high quality Mouse pads and his mouse pads are regarded to be one of the best. Artisan mouse pads do cost quite high (around 45$ for large Hayate version) but they are worth every cent.
The MOQ for the mouse pads is 300 for one color. Thus i will represent you some versions and gather your feedback. In the end i will do a poll to choose the best suitable for the community version.
Just in case Artisan does prints only in the corners and full surface print is not possible but also full print does not make sense, since its wise to keep the surface clean and in one color to keep sensor work as intended.
Versions.
Gray 2
(http://i.imgur.com/CzTnJHy.png)
Gray 3
(http://i.imgur.com/3H78QxO.png)
Gray 4
(http://i.imgur.com/sUp8Gz9.png)
I will take any constructive feedback and suggestion into consideration. After that i will post an poll to choose the version.
Just in case the logos are also sugestions. I can do also for example warning signs etc. Just leave your feedack and i will figure out how to please the majority.
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Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 20:06:27
Beige. I'd want it to be desk-wide, though (not super tall as some are, just extended to either side so my keyboard can be on top of it too).!
Agreed on size, I love carbon and would love to be a part of this but im a desk mat user. Current mat i use is 36" x 11" = 914mm x 279.4mm
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 02 August 2017, 00:13:26
Beige. I'd want it to be desk-wide, though (not super tall as some are, just extended to either side so my keyboard can be on top of it too).
I dont think Artisan could make deskmats. Though we'll ask him. But lets asume even if Artisan cant make deskmats people should keep in mind that its the material and the coating of artisans mouse pads which stands out compared to the other mouse pads and definitely all the usuall available desk mats.
Given the MOQ I think Grey 2 would be the best choice since I think more people would actually buy a grey mousepad vs beige. By the way why the regular Hayate rather than the Otsu? From what I can gather the Otsu seems to be an updated/better version. Also I think you might give some consideration to the Soft version since it's in the middle of the three options despite the name.
I will check the Otsu version.
In case of soft being the middle version. I would appreciate if you could share a source of this info. I got the middle version of hayate. Just to explain for people: we are talking here about softness of the mouse pad. Right now there is middle and soft versions available.
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Post by: rioc on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:58:25
Also, the logo a bit bigger and some small warning signs on the bottom right ;)
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Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 02 August 2017, 21:53:32
I will check the Otsu version.
In case of soft being the middle version. I would appreciate if you could share a source of this info. I got the middle version of hayate. Just to explain for people: we are talking here about softness of the mouse pad. Right now there is middle and soft versions available.
On the link you gave, above and to the right of the mousepad pic you can select from three different hardnesses, X-Soft, Soft and Mid. I guess they thought if they put a "hard" option people would think it's a typical hard pad, so they opted to use those indicators for their mousepads. Though really I think any of the options would be fine, I used to have a Hien X-Soft and didn't have any issue with its compression.
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 03 August 2017, 13:32:30
Anyway Gray 2 is the clear winner from that i have suggested before.
Thought also about these versions here. Front page has been updated...
Gray 2 (as the winner of previous suggestions)
(http://i.imgur.com/CzTnJHy.png)
Gray 3
(http://i.imgur.com/3H78QxO.png)
Gray 4
(http://i.imgur.com/sUp8Gz9.png)
Ah i see thank you for the clarification. I ordered my year ago and forgot about this small detail of hardness. Though i've the soft version then.I will check the Otsu version.
In case of soft being the middle version. I would appreciate if you could share a source of this info. I got the middle version of hayate. Just to explain for people: we are talking here about softness of the mouse pad. Right now there is middle and soft versions available.
On the link you gave, above and to the right of the mousepad pic you can select from three different hardnesses, X-Soft, Soft and Mid. I guess they thought if they put a "hard" option people would think it's a typical hard pad, so they opted to use those indicators for their mousepads. Though really I think any of the options would be fine, I used to have a Hien X-Soft and didn't have any issue with its compression.
Post by: Robotical on Thu, 03 August 2017, 13:35:41
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 03 August 2017, 14:30:17
Still fully on board with Gray 2, but if I had to pick a second, it would be gray 4.
Appreciate it. The gray 2 is my second favorite. My first fav was beige but if people want gray 2 so be it :)
Post by: rioc on Thu, 03 August 2017, 15:19:59
Ok still checking if it can be the size of a desk mat.Ok, gray 2 with the updated bigger logo and the gray 3 signs in bottom right corner :)
Anyway Gray 2 is the clear winner from that i have suggested before.
Thought also about these versions here. Front page has been updated...
Gray 2 (as the winner of previous suggestions)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CzTnJHy.png)
Gray 3Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3H78QxO.png)
Gray 4Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sUp8Gz9.png)Ah i see thank you for the clarification. I ordered my year ago and forgot about this small detail of hardness. Though i've the soft version then.I will check the Otsu version.
In case of soft being the middle version. I would appreciate if you could share a source of this info. I got the middle version of hayate. Just to explain for people: we are talking here about softness of the mouse pad. Right now there is middle and soft versions available.
On the link you gave, above and to the right of the mousepad pic you can select from three different hardnesses, X-Soft, Soft and Mid. I guess they thought if they put a "hard" option people would think it's a typical hard pad, so they opted to use those indicators for their mousepads. Though really I think any of the options would be fine, I used to have a Hien X-Soft and didn't have any issue with its compression.
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 03 August 2017, 15:52:20
Ok still checking if it can be the size of a desk mat.Ok, gray 2 with the updated bigger logo and the gray 3 signs in bottom right corner :)
Anyway Gray 2 is the clear winner from that i have suggested before.
Thought also about these versions here. Front page has been updated...
Gray 2 (as the winner of previous suggestions)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CzTnJHy.png)
Gray 3Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3H78QxO.png)
Gray 4Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sUp8Gz9.png)Ah i see thank you for the clarification. I ordered my year ago and forgot about this small detail of hardness. Though i've the soft version then.I will check the Otsu version.
In case of soft being the middle version. I would appreciate if you could share a source of this info. I got the middle version of hayate. Just to explain for people: we are talking here about softness of the mouse pad. Right now there is middle and soft versions available.
On the link you gave, above and to the right of the mousepad pic you can select from three different hardnesses, X-Soft, Soft and Mid. I guess they thought if they put a "hard" option people would think it's a typical hard pad, so they opted to use those indicators for their mousepads. Though really I think any of the options would be fine, I used to have a Hien X-Soft and didn't have any issue with its compression.
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Well that is good possible :) Though i think i will do a poll in the end. Need just to figure out some details.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 03 August 2017, 15:56:42
If deskmat size is possible I'm definitely down. <3
Post by: RedSuns on Thu, 03 August 2017, 18:12:52
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 03 August 2017, 18:33:50
Maybe you could shrink the main logo and spread it throughout the mousepad like watermarks.
Prints are possible only in the corners and are limited in size. Also the mouse sensor may sturggle with tracking on multi color surface. For best functionality its always better to use monocolor surface. On the side note the prints do change the surface slightly. They have purely cosmetical purpose and it should be avoided to use mouse other those prints. Thats why i did not made the logo that big. Again i am aiming here at highest quality mouse pad/deskmat with highest offer of functionallity over the flashines. It should provide best possible environment for your mouse to function. Since Artisans are made only in black color this one here is actually a custom edition. Plus the carbon flair sweetens the whole. Hope someday we could offer a proper mouse with Carbon flair to complete a desk set.
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 03 August 2017, 19:15:04
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 03 August 2017, 19:31:24
A deskpad would be neat, but I feel like that given the price of their normal pads it'd be priced so high that only a few people would actually put down the money. Most people already think their current prices are too much for a mouse pad.You are right. I think we should try first making just the mouse pad. If it goes well, we could think about a deskmat.
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Post by: RedSuns on Fri, 04 August 2017, 00:31:36
Maybe you could shrink the main logo and spread it throughout the mousepad like watermarks.
Prints are possible only in the corners and are limited in size. Also the mouse sensor may sturggle with tracking on multi color surface. For best functionality its always better to use monocolor surface. On the side note the prints do change the surface slightly. They have purely cosmetical purpose and it should be avoided to use mouse other those prints. Thats why i did not made the logo that big. Again i am aiming here at highest quality mouse pad/deskmat with highest offer of functionallity over the flashines. It should provide best possible environment for your mouse to function. Since Artisans are made only in black color this one here is actually a custom edition. Plus the carbon flair sweetens the whole. Hope someday we could offer a proper mouse with Carbon flair to complete a desk set.
Then I would stick with Gray 2 with the logo on the bottom corner, if possible. If you move your mouse over to the top left, it looks like the sensor would touch some of the icons for Gray 3 and 4. Also, the spacing between the icons for Gray 3 and 4 isn't aligned properly and as a whole it looks a bit bare. As for the mouse, hopefully it's comparable to the gaming mice out there with an optical sensor, two programmable buttons on the side, and rubber side grips. Then it would be a hard choice whether you want it to have a ergonomic shape or not.
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Post by: t4n6 on Mon, 21 August 2017, 18:02:20
Any idea what the schedule for this would be/where it would be run? Massdrop?
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 22 August 2017, 00:05:54
Definitely Grey 2, although I'd be down to get a deskmat later on if you end up selling them too.
Any idea what the schedule for this would be/where it would be run? Massdrop?
Yeah its going to drop on Massdrop, if everything is fine. For now i dont have any date for a possible drop...