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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: fouras on Sat, 26 August 2017, 00:45:08
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GMK Ochray is loosely based off the Raytheon 6104-04 (https://deskthority.net/photos-f62/raytheon-6104-04-t15676.html). (Of the few vintage boards I know, It's easily my favorite.) The set features Dolch-colored alphas surrounded by dark brown modifiers, cream legends, and accents of mustard yellow.
Base
(http://i.imgur.com/PYtqAaE.png)
Spacebars
(http://i.imgur.com/rrVNsig.png)
I'd also like to include an add-on kit of Cyrillic alphas. The molds already exist from Yuri, and I think they're a good match for these colors.
(http://i.imgur.com/M02y1EI.png)
| base color | legend color |
| alphas | CC | U9 |
| modifiers | #29211C | U9 |
| accents | #946A21 | U9 |
Thanks for looking.
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Looks great
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I like the inspiration for this set, will be keeping an eye on your progress with this.
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Colemak kit please.
Then it'd be verryyyy nice :thumb:
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Looks nice
Vendor?
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Where do you plan to run? The cyrillics kit sold 175 (base 935) for yuri. Keep in mind they offered separate modifiers, so you didnt had to buy base+cyrillics. If you offer this as extra, people will get stuck with an extra alpha set.
I think MOQ on that will be hard outside of a MD vendor.
Quite like the colorway. Brown is probably one of the most underused colors and i love the yellow mustard. Probably going to join this.
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Looks great
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Thanks!
Colemak kit please.
Then it'd be verryyyy nice :thumb:
I'll offer one if this makes it to Massdrop. Unfortunately, anywhere else has no chance of meeting MoQ.
Looks nice
Vendor?
Thanks. Not sure on vendor yet.
Where do you plan to run? The cyrillics kit sold 175 (base 935) for yuri. Keep in mind they offered separate modifiers, so you didnt had to buy base+cyrillics. If you offer this as extra, people will get stuck with an extra alpha set.
I think MOQ on that will be hard outside of a MD vendor.
Quite like the colorway. Brown is probably one of the most underused colors and i love the yellow mustard. Probably going to join this.
Yeah, thinking about it now, it's gonna be tough to make the Cyrillics work. Even if the price is low enough to sell without a separate icon modifiers set, they'd look weird with English mods.
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Where do you plan to run? The cyrillics kit sold 175 (base 935) for yuri. Keep in mind they offered separate modifiers, so you didnt had to buy base+cyrillics. If you offer this as extra, people will get stuck with an extra alpha set.
I think MOQ on that will be hard outside of a MD vendor.
Quite like the colorway. Brown is probably one of the most underused colors and i love the yellow mustard. Probably going to join this.
Yeah, thinking about it now, it's gonna be tough to make the Cyrillics work. Even if the price is low enough to sell without a separate icon modifiers set, they'd look weird with English mods.
The Cyrillic-only alphas are awesome - it's so hard to find non-QWERTY GMK kits. Hopefully either that or a Dvorak/Colemak pack makes it to the GB.
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The colors are nice.
But what about changing colors to reflect the original color way of the old board?
I think using #29211C for alphas and #946A21 for modifier might make it better.
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Cyrillic
It's easy to say now with hindsight, but during and after the Yuri drop we figured out that the Cyrillic offering could've been improved. People did buy combinations of Cyrillic + icon modifiers + spacebars, both with and without the base kit. Without the base kit Cyrillic + icon modifiers + spacebars was enough to support many 60% boards. With the base kit included, buyers could almost cover two keyboards but may be left wanting some extra arrow keys, and some extra 1u keys for 65%-68% type boards.
Some ideas for Cyrillic kits with wider compatibility/flexibility:
- Offer a complete alternative base kit with Cyrillic and Icons in place of the regular alphas and modifiers.
- Create a kit with Cyrillic + icon modifiers + spacebars + extra arrow keys + extra 1u keys (Del, Ins, Fn, PgUp, PgDn etc. covering rows 1-4, to cover keyboards like the 660M and derivatives.)
- Include a second set of arrow keys somewhere, if not in the base kit as part of an additional accents of novelties set (noted they are currently in the Ochray base kit.)
- Include extra 1u 'various' keys somewhere else.
Icons
Cyrillic and icons are great, but some of the 'various' keys without icons may look jarring: Ins, Del, PgUp, PgDn, PrtSc, Pause, Home, End. Possibly you could add Fn and the F row to this list.
Suggestion: broaden the icon kit to include the 'various' keys (I don't think this is impossible as it may seem, but it could depend on interest in this set and GMK's progress expanding their range of molds.)
Colemak & other layouts
Colevrak kits seem to be the go to option for keyset group buys. However I'd love to see Colemak in particular incorporated into a base kit someday, and maybe coverage for a wider range of alternative layouts.
Also would like the row 4 D and H for Colemak Mod-DH included as part of a Colemak/Colevrak set.
IIRC Carpalx and Workman would need 8-10 keys more than a typical Colevrak kit, so for a popular colorway there might be a possibility to cover more of these alternative layouts.
Homing keys
My preference is for no homing keys (just regular profile, no scoops, dishes or bars) so I'd like those included in base alphas and Cyrillic.
Probably of wider interest: Nautilus GB had plenty of people asking for barred homing keys in addition to the scoops. I don't see why it's a deal breaker, but some people say it is... If cost is an issue I would choose the scoops only as I don't think Nautilus was significantly hurt by this choice.