You are confusing action and reaction. For example, consider this thread (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/13/032205/Apple-Loses-Aussie-Trademark-Complaint-Over-i-Name) at slashdot. The person saying "If Apple were a person he would be a total douche, but of course we again see some Apple fanboys coming to defend this douchebag.", is he or she a pro-active hater, or reacting to douchebag behavior of a company and calling it what it is?
Similarly, you can't just ask people to stop bashing Apple and making them look bad at the same time as the cause of all this. You have to ask people to stop preaching the false God first.
Don't think I've done this yet, but there's a first time for everything.
Quoted. For. Truth.
Just because they wanted to use a different processor architecture doesn't mean that they did it to be awkward... Intel processors are not the best out there, many companies ditch them to use more efficient solutions.
Unfortunately the POWER architecture is very energy intensive. They're very fast, but eat up electricity and generate too much heat. That's why they never made a G5 macbook. I think that problem, moreso than any other, prompted them to switch to Intel.
iLounge has posted their iPad buying guide
"i'm a mac...... i'm a PC...." bla bla bla
PowerPC processors were just a racket. They were pieces of out-of-date junk even when they were new. It was a good idea on Apple's part to switch to Intel architecture.
I had bad experience with Apple computers in a school system with a limited budget
The thing about these PC vs. Mac arguments is they're just silly.
They just wheel out users saying how great Windows is then tagging on the punchline "I'm a PC." It's retarded, dumbed down manipulative nonsense. Just the kind of non-literal crap you'd expect from Apple. Obviously MS is after a bigger slice of the gullible idiot market.
PowerPC processors were just a racket. They were pieces of out-of-date junk even when they were new. It was a good idea on Apple's part to switch to Intel architecture.
Now, of course, I bet you all know by my name that I prefer to use IBM-compatible machines. But that doesn't mean that you have to. Just because I had bad experience with Apple computers in a school system with a limited budget (Yes, bad idea there. There're still 10-year-old Imac's in use!), that doesn't mean that an Apple is better-suited for something else. It's not my money you're all spending, after all. Buy what you like. Isn't that the point of money?
POWER7 is ridiculously awesome. In the age of multi-core and multi-thread, x86 is lagging behind, really. Intel does a maximum of two threads per core and have announced a 6 core CPU (iirc), AMD does 1 thread per core (because they don't believe in SMT) and have announced a 12 core chip; POWER7 does 4 threads per core, and atm up to 8 cores (32 threads); Suns UltraSparc T3 will feature 16 cores with 8 threads per core (512 threads).
The real danger for MS from Apple's ads is the fact that Apple regularly highlight failings with the Windows platform. Of course, MS can get up and talk about new features and whatever, but people tend to listen more to criticism of something rather than the product's manufacturer telling you that it's great. Really, the best thing for MS to do would be to just ignore it - what they are doing now makes them look somewhat desperate.
Show me some facts, because I have seen plenty to suggest otherwise.
Which pretty much automatically renders your opinion invalid.
If computers are not well supported and looked after, they will be ****. Take for example Windows 7. It runs great on my machine. My neighbor gets a new computer which is almost of the same spec, and it runs ****. Why does the same OS behave so differently on almost exactly the same machine? Because Dell installed their copy and I installed mine. And we all know how Dell piles on the ****e in their consumer software bundle.
Same story with Linux. In my college there's a pile of Debian machines which almost never work because the servers on which all the user files are set up on is set up in some retarded way (possibly in order to cater to the ancient XP machines), so there are days when it can't find the home directory and refuses to log on.
The point is, there's no such thing as an idiot proof OS. If it is not set up and maintained in a sufficient way, it will not work properly. The only way to reliably gauge how good an OS is is by running it yourself on your own machine with your own configuration.
This of course explains why you make silly arguments in them. Good boy.
Now, about the PowerPC's. Anyone remember the Power Macintosh G3's? They cost an arm and a leg back in 1998 when they came out. And my Gateway2000 from early 1996 outpowers them.
How about those colorful iMac's from around 2000? The fastest of those ran at 600Mhz. Most ran at 300-400Mhz, less than half the speed of the PC's from that era (933Mhz Pentium III versus 400Mhz G3). Oh, and the G4 laptops? The run-of-the-mill models of those ran at about 800Mhz. That was 2003.
I disagree. The G4 series, for example, outperformed x86 processors of their time, just as MIPS used to outperform x86 (and then SGI went over to Itanium, pretty much). Then for a while x86 actually got decent for a while, so Apple switched. Nowadays, I'd still probably choose a PPC over an x86. The first Xbox had an x86 chip in it, for the 360 they switched to a Power from IBM. The Wii and the PS3 also run PowerPC from IBM (so we can correctly deduce that IBM is the only winner in the console wars).
POWER7 is ridiculously awesome. In the age of multi-core and multi-thread, x86 is lagging behind, really. Intel does a maximum of two threads per core and have announced a 6 core CPU (iirc), AMD does 1 thread per core (because they don't believe in SMT) and have announced a 12 core chip; POWER7 does 4 threads per core, and atm up to 8 cores (32 threads); Suns UltraSparc T3 will feature 16 cores with 8 threads per core (512 threads).
But yes, at the moment of Apples switch, G5 had bad temperature problems. X86, silly as it sounds, ran cooler..
The XBOX 360 runs on a tri-core Power PC.
The Wii runs on its own cutomized "broadway" CPU to be compatible with gekko (not sure if it's power pc).
The Playstation 3 runs on a cell processor, which ISN'T a POWER chip, and was a joint project by IBM and sony (and it could have been some other companies too).
I think the XBOX 360 running on a TRI core power PC is just IBM trying to get back at microsoft. Seriously, TRI core? Reminds me when they removed the windows keys from thinkpads (I'm mad lenovo put them back).
Ah come on, you're giving away the ending!
The problem with IPC is that it's effectively unquantifiable except through benchmarks with a wide variety of applications. The Itanium can theoretically do 6 instructions per clock cycle, but no one actually figured out how to make software that makes use of that ability, so it's around the same as an x86 chip.
Again, proof plx.
Oh dear.
Let me put it this way, ever notice the way that there were Pentium 4s running at 3.8GHz? Notice that they were replaced by processors running between 2-2.8GHz? Do you think that the former are quicker than the latter?
Guys, MW is right here....
G3s and G4s (yeah, I've used em both) in general just run like molasses...G3s being quite similar, in fact, to late 68k Macs.
Their replacement processors had multiple cores and superior architecture.
I used Macs for years. I serviced them for years! And I hate the old Mac's for a good reason. Trust me: The G3's and G4's are slow. Even by my standards.
Pentium III processors had some of the best architecture available to the general market at the time period (1999-2002-ish). Apple's iMac's 10 years ago were basically the equivalent of someone selling a single core computer new today and asking $800 for it. Their computers were just lousy. However, today, that isn't the case (Apple's caught up and some of their current models surpass today's standards. But they're all still a little pricey).
In 2001, the school district purchased a whole new fleet of 450Mhz blueberry iMac's for the elementary school. At the high school, where the computer systems ran Windows, they updated the fleet the year before to 933Mhz Micron Clientpro computers. Both the Macs and the Microns had 128MB of PC133 RAM and 10gb hard disks.
You all think Windows 2000 was bad taking 5 minutes to start up? Well, on those iMac's Mac OS 10 took even longer. And their original OS, 9.2, didn't have a screen saver at the log-in screen so it burned right into the screens since not all the staffers turned off their computers routinely.
Guys, MW is right here.
Real world actual performance is what he's speaking about, and he's freakin correct, no way to counter it
Nonsense, real world performance regularly lies. See my post a page or so back about Windows 7 on two almost identical machines... there's too many variables in the performance equation to dumb it down to an intrinsic problem with either the hardware or the OS.
Oh yeah, and everyone knows that Mac OS 9 sucks. Get over it. As if Microsoft never released multiple disastrous versions of Windows.
Again, I've never owned an Apple computer. I'm not as much pro-Mac as I am anti-idiot.
Numbers are great for bragging rights.
"My new G900 chip can do three hundred thousand instructions per cycle...and get this, there are three hundred thousand cycles per second!"
unlike a "Wintel" system, where the entire system's performance in everything can be on a sliding scale based on RAM...
There were dual core G5s released around the same time that Intel and AMD released their offerings. Scratch up another point for Team Clueless!
And I wonder why Apple never used them in laptops...
Ok, well here is my opinion on Macs:
Mac OS X runs better on PC hardware than on Mac hardware. That I don't quite understand. And also, if Apple is so much better than PCs and Microsoft Windows, how come Bill Gates is so much richer? I think that speaks for the success of PCs right there.
Because they were never intended for them? Have you ever seen a G5 module? Let alone the heatsink they put on it to cool it?
When compared to the Intel processors available at the same time periods, many of the PowerPC cores were simply pieces of garbage. 450Mhz G3 versus 1Ghz Pentium III. 866Mhz G4 versus 2.2Ghz Pentium 4. 1Ghz G4 versus 2.8Ghz Pentium 4. Get the message?
The Intel processors had superior architecture and were much more efficient, consuming far less power and outputting much less heat. That's a reason why Apple switched. The people at Apple aren't that stupid.
Anything...ANYTHING...to keep us away from the "he's richer so it must be better" discussion. ANYTHING.
What Steve Jobs did in that "megahertz myth" was he compared a G4 to one of the slow Willamette Pentium 4's. If you compared that G4 to a pentium III the same speed made a few years earlier, you'd get different results.
Also, keep in mind that since at the time, Mac OS did not run on x86 CPU's, and Windows does not run on PowerPC's. The task the two machines had to complete was probably just a marketing ploy. Apple probably took the junkiest Pentium 4 system they could find and compare it to one of their systems.
And, the G5's were worse than the Pentium 4's, creating even more heat and drawing even more power. At least people could put Pentium 4's in laptops...
With stupid one-button mice
I'm trying to get a loan of the Mighty Mouse to play around with it. I also intend on reinstalling OS X onto a Power Mac G4 I found so that I can actually play around with this "Mac" thing that people have been talking about so much.
Mac users would say "I never got the reason behind Microsoft's two button mice. There probably wasn't one." Unix users who traditionally had three button mice would say the same thing.
All these things are matters of opinion. Just because it's different to what you use, doesn't make it stupid.
I never got the reason behind Apple's one button mice. There probably wasn't one.
And then there's this:Show Image(http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/openoffice-mouse.jpg)
But we've already made fun of it here.
I guess 3 buttons were a Sun Unix thing but according to Wikipedia on mice this Xerox Parc Alto computer mouse is the real granddaddy of 3 buttons. $400 Mouse! (http://www.oldmouse.com/articles/xerox/Alto.shtml)Show Image(http://www.oldmouse.com/pics/xerox/RG-AltoTop.jpg)
Wikipedia DOES say Apple did 4 button testing but settled on the one button design. And back to the OP. This proves Apple users are stupider.
Here's the granddaddy of that granddaddy.
Douglas Engelbart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Engelbart) made the first wooden shell prototype while at SRI (Stanford Research Institute) in 1964.
Probably simplicity, aesthetics and "uniqueness" over functionality and uniform.
I happened to end up at a Christmas party at Douglas Engelbart's house a few years ago through a friend who knew him. Not surprisingly, he lives in a very upscale neighborhood. The guy's an engineer to the core and still has one of the most obvious habits of an engineer. There's old electronics lying around in various states of disassembly. Right at the front door, underneath a framed letter from President Richard Nixon was an old yellowed monitor that was old enough that I couldn't identify the make or model. I laughed when I saw that after walking in the door. It made me realize "ok, this guy's a giant, but he's the real deal, but still real person."
Remember the historical context though. Apple computers at that time sported a retro rainbow logo at a time when owning a computer of any kind was not a badge of coolness. The one button thing was probably not a fashion decision.
Two button mice did not become a default option on Windows until Windows 3.0 (~1991) and a lot of people were still needing to use a hybrid of DOS/Windows on their computers. A 1-button mouse around that era isn't as ridiculous of an idea as it seems now. As to why they stuck with the 1 button mouse long after the fact... go figure. You can't say it was a Steve edict though. He wasn't there at the time when 2 button mice became commonplace.
And before you say that that's marketing talk, why did the speed of Intel's CPUs take a sudden drop during 2006?!
According to a friend high at NVIDIA, Intel killed the P4 because P4 architecture hit a performance ceiling circa 2003, and found no improvement could be accomplished without infringing on NVIDIA patents. Suddenly Intel was interested in negotiating with NVIDIA for a cross-licensing agreement, which became visible here (http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_17070.html). NVIDIA was granted the Intel FSB license for nForce, and the Intel Centrino was born, featuring low power rather than MHz.
According to a friend high at NVIDIA, Intel killed the P4 because P4 architecture hit a performance ceiling circa 2003, and found no improvement could be accomplished without infringing on NVIDIA patents. Suddenly Intel was interested in negotiating with NVIDIA for a cross-licensing agreement, which became visible here (http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_17070.html). NVIDIA was granted the Intel FSB license for nForce, and the Intel Centrino was born, featuring low power rather than MHz.
Well, the main problem was that no one really knew how much of a problem heat and electricity would become, it was thought that it would scale hapily to 10GHz by 2005. What they got instead was an expensive, hot chip that no one really wanted.
"Their pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking."
I gotta say that one scene you referenced is a bit of a plot hole. The super-intelligent super-human who mastered starship operations by cramming down the manual couldn't figure out how to put his car in reverse or something like that.
Ehm, Apple HHKB, Apple 3 button mouse?
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AlphaServer 8400 5/350 21164 (EV5) 350 10.1 14.2
Intel Alder System (200MHz, 256KB L2) Pentium Pro 200 8.9 6.75
HP 9000 C160 PA 8000 160 10.4 16.3
SGI Origin 200 MIPS R10k 180 8.59 15.6
AlphaServer ES40 6/833 21264 (EV6) 833 50.0 100.0
Intel VC820 motherboard Pentium III 1000 46.8 31.9
HP 9000 C3600 PA-8600 552 42.1 64.0
This of course teaches us what we already know - x86 blows.
I'd argue it's the most useful architecture though, based on how the industry adopted it in such a widespread manner.
And also, if Apple is so much better than PCs and Microsoft Windows, how come Bill Gates is so much richer?
Discuss.
The reason I quoted that is because your statement on x86, whilst not offensively retarded like the Bill Gates thing, suffers the same problem - you have to ask yourself - why is x86 popular? The answer is that x86 is popular because it's the 'tel in Wintel. What if IBM decided to use the 68k, or if they used the IBM 801 and sold it to anyone who wanted? x86 would be a quaint afterthought that only the nerdiest would know about. Maybe you'd find it in network controllers, or some USAF radar designed in the 80s, but it wouldn't be adopted like it has been today on it's own merits.
The problem with non-x86 architectures? Marketing. They were all designed by old behemoths who thought the PC industry was a passing fad, and they they could survive on selling to high end and niche markets. Not even Intel's attempts at doing that worked... most of the other companies that did it don't even exist any more. It's simple economics - people like mass produced things because they're cheap, and everyone uses them. Especially now that the tech world is moving towards parallelism. Sure the PA-RISC or Alpha is twice as fast as the equivalent x86, but I can buy 3-4 x86 for the same price.
Shame it works like that really. Computers will just become another generic mass produced appliance, all the fun has gone out of them.
I'll second the notion that, ignoring commercial factors, 680x0 series chips were awesome, and ahead of their time.
The Cray-2 looks better.
At the risk of ignoring the thread title, I think Apple is partly responsible for the demise of the 68000 line. If they had charged more reasonable prices for their systems (as Atari did) who knows what we'd all be using today?
The 68000s were remarkably sophisticated and powerful in comparison. Not sure why Kishy describes them as an interesting bit of weirdness.
An awesome thing about those big Cray systems is you walk up to them and they are dead silent. No loud datacenter sound of screaming fans. But they would definitely make great decor.
Unless you count the $20,000 in electricity it took to operate it as noise.
Had it been fan cooled, I'm sure it would have sounded like a jet turbine. ;)
There seriously are 060 modded versions of the Falcon floating around out there? I'd love to see that!
I can never keep track of which is which...is the Mighty Mouse the wired one with little scroll ball, or Bluetooth wireless one with touch scrolling?
In the case of the latter don't bother, the latency is REALLY bad...I notice this and all I'm doing is basic use stuff for the most part. You may have seen the old PS/2 wireless ball mouse I use on my 286 from time to time...it tracks better with less latency.
The one with the little ball should be similar to the slightly earlier semitransparent optical ones.
Hmm...maybe something to do with the software setup on my friend's hackintosh (that's where I've used it).
Some day I'll fit the one true computer into my bedroom -I recently learned one interesting thing about the VAX. At least two models (the 6500 and the 8800) included the option of vector operations which were of a similar type to those of the Cray-1. And the architecture also provided for packed decimal operations.
Ever since the iPad announcement, the knives have been out on every forum online that doesn't have a pro-Apple slant to it. Look, I get it. A lot of people are annoyed at the spin factory that is part of the Apple operation and a lot of people even dislike their products for substantial technical reasons. This is all fine. You have every right to your opinion and I completely agree that a lot of Apple stuff is more hype than substance and some of it is even all hype and no substance.
I own a number of Apple products and while I'm no fanboy, it's just tiresome to see every other thread digress into Apple bashing when it's not even relevant. The more it happens, the more it'll attract people who want to flame anything Apple and probably some people who worship the Steve and see it as their religous duty to defend the Apple crest to this site. GeekHack will become just like every other tech discussion site that lost its desire to actually have real discussions. It'll be a bunch of people screaming at each other with the ones who are the most extreme in their positions gaining the most attention. It's poisonous for bashing of any sort to become the way people bond on a site so please give it a rest.
There are plenty of sites that are all about hating Apple, hating Microsoft, hating Linux, hating PCs, hating the Steve, hating the Bill... If this kind of thing makes your **** bigger, go there and you'll have an 80 foot Johnson in a week. Please don't turn this site into another one of those sites.
An in very un-GeekHack like fasion, I'll end by saying "Thank you."
Sad thing is, it took us nearly 10 years of arguing this to get to the point where we can diplomatically recognize the other's point of view on this topic.
Still, thats progress I guess.
I agree this discussion is irrelevant. The Amiga was way better. The Atari was like her ugly sister, who no one wants to date. I'll get into more details once I settled the ZX Spectrum/Commodore 64 war.
This ripster?
Yeah, Apple does make some worthwhile products...Show Image(http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129154217274711505.jpg)
Now, hopefully you and your friend don't just start arguing about something else. Maybe you guys just like to debate. ;) As long as it works for both of you, I guess that's ok. I have a friend who's a lawyer and man does that guy just like to argue about anything! It's fun to him.
yea we tend to 'debate' a bit too much probably :) If we're not arguing about computers then its politics.
Funny thing is we're both leftists, but we still find like a 5% difference to fight over :) Most of the time its just good fun though.
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Spec_57
For wiping the Crapple off your ass.
actual product (http://www.amazon.com/iCarta-iPod-Stereo-Tissue-Holder/dp/B000HWX1J8)
Yo Dawg, I put an iPod in your iPoo so you can Mac while you crap!
I'd like to see an apple ad with a rap in it. The music they play in their ads is SO white trash. Flowers and butterflies and "indy" young women with acoustic guitars in a starbucks singing about love or something. Blech.
Of course, about 300% of modern music is garbage anyway,
Find an ad from any Fortune 500 company that uses rap for marketing. I can't think of any, but then again the only TV I watch is hockey.
MY EARS. MY EARS.
Where's a stranger when you need one?
Where's a stranger when you need one?
lol
i dont know whats more irritating, that song or a minivan full of self-satisfied bourgeoise women in their 30s.
Just sit on your hand for a few minutes and...
Oh, not that "stranger?"
I like Zero7, but their latest album was a little weak.
Welly is a master of juvenile sigs. ItlnStln and I were on it for the longest time.
That's an actual quote of mine (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=176681&postcount=16), however.
Kishy, read it again.
Sol is not Canadian for Kishy.Show Image(https://libwebspace.library.cmu.edu:4430/posner/sp09/subcontents/images/copernicus%20center.gif)
BTW I had a similar no-sound issue with my old desktop. Never did figure out what caused it, but I suspected it to be hardware level. It was a SiS AC'97 something-or-other, 7012 maybe?
Welly is a master of juvenile sigs. ItlnStln and I were on it for the longest time.
Kishy, I don't think you understood. What ripster was saying was that Welly likes to put juveniles in his sig.
This.
Reading used to be taught a basic skill.
And if I don't win the "Troll Poll" it was rigged. Multistage ones are harder to pull off.
How about banh mi?
I didn't rave about it. I can't get it at any of the Vietnamese places here.
I can get Phochiladas, though.
well if you didnt rave about it then i'll take it off the list! Apparently I didnt know the difference between korean and vietnamese food anyway!
I think prognos raved about the banh mi.
Regular, lighty toasted with regular Philly pour moi, si vous plait.
A friend of mine was in Korea with some of his friends. They went into a restaurant in which neither the menus nor the staff had any English, and pretty much ordered a random thing out of the list. A while later, out came an empty pot of boiling water. Shortly after, a waiter brought out a live Octopus, and threw it into the boiling water right in front of them...
How about banh mi?
I'll wait for someone else to do the pun...
Awesome. Korean food terrifies me, and I am pretty bold about what I eat. I went to a Korean wedding and the bride's family did all the cooking. I had no clue what the hell I was eating half of it was cold (intentionally) some of the "meat" was spongy, and the rest... well... I don't even want to go there. To my credit (I guess) I did try a little of everything.
Banh mi? Yes please! Nomnomnomnom. :banplease:
I like those boba drinks with the little tapioca balls in them. I always get one from the vietnamese restaurant nearby when I go there. ."
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There is nothing else as enjoyable as a hot Indian curry buffet....
mmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
Perhaps the reason that people didn't identify with the "I'm a Mac" guy is just because that guy is just a guy. The PC guy is serious and businesslike, with important serious things to do. One has to be smart to to all that. No one wants to realize that they are enticed by a product that was designed to be a little more "idiot proof" because that might mean that they might be that idiot it was proofed against.I'm not sure if you've got this right. John Hodgeman's PC character actually gets better approval than the Justin Long Mac guy. Some think this was a major blunder on Apple's part, but I don't find the results surprising at all. Justin Long is clearly in a supporting role in that series. All he does is come in and say something to setup the PC character to do something funny. I know I never watched one of those commercials to see what Justin Long would do. He's just kinda there he does come across a little snooty at times.
I'm not sure if you've got this right. John Hodgeman's PC character actually gets better approval than the Justin Long Mac guy. Some think this was a major blunder on Apple's part, but I don't find the results surprising at all. Justin Long is clearly in a supporting role in that series. All he does is come in and say something to setup the PC character to do something funny. I know I never watched one of those commercials to see what Justin Long would do. He's just kinda there he does come across a little snooty at times.
BTW, I'm first generation full blooded Chinese and chickens feet makes me yack.
I was raised by my grandparents
so I have lots of exposure to old world throwbacks
i'm first gen indian and i cant stand spicy food.
You're a disgrace.
Yeah, IBM is pretty much pure services now. The hardware they're handling is more or less part of the deal. Same for SunOracle, really. HP wishes they were there (so expect them to acquire companies to facilitate this, for example SAP, this year).
Companies are starting to copy their walled-garden model, because they've seen it work, and people are getting used to it.
I think Nintendo, Sega, Sony, and XBOX were actually there with the walled garden approach first. They don't run the app store, but they license all the titles.
I'm not worried regardless. I'm a strong believer that any strong movement necessarly vacates such a wide area of demand that it spawns its own counter movement. The more dominant the software industry becomes in creating total control, the more demand there will be for its own anti-industry.
Apple is itself an anti-industry of Microsoft and the dominance of PCs and now that they too are becoming dominant others will become the anti-industry of Apple.
The thing is, game consoles are a market where you expect a walled garden. (That said, there's XNA on the Xbox 360, and there was Other OS on the PS3, and Linux for the PS2.) Smartphones, OTOH, weren't a walled garden before the iPhone came out.
Terrifying stuff.
or naming the colors of the rainbow.
Did you guys have that Dell ad too?
Did you guys have that Dell ad too?
That describes every Dell ad made in the past two years. I am referring to a certain gut-wrenching, PTSD-inducing ad that begins with "I am Green today", and fails to stop at this point...
Bad music is only acceptable if it's funny.
(I held back from posting this in a couple of other threads, but bad taste has got the better of me.)
My ears! The plugs, they do NOTHING!
My ears! The plugs, they do NOTHING!
Actually, they will. That sickens me much more than cute pop songs.
ripster, not even funny as a joke. She's garbage.
I always thought this was one of the more ironic advertizing posters ever made, given Apple's censorship of the dalai lama (http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/apple-bends-to-chinese-censors-kicks-dalai-lama-apps-from-the-app-store-20091230/)!But this was only the Chinese App Store. As a company doing business in China, they have no choice but to obey Chinese laws there.
But this was only the Chinese App Store. As a company doing business in China, they have no choice but to obey Chinese laws there.
Of course, doing business in China is morally questionable in itself, but the competition does so, so they really have little choice.
As a AAPL shareholder just let me say....I remember the movie which that scene came from. Unfortunately, there aren't any clips of Kirsten Dunst from Cat's Meow on YouTube...