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Title: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: JP on Thu, 05 October 2017, 12:18:07
Pingmasters with Japanese legends appear to be back at Mendelsons.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-6112884-Japanese-Keyboard-Japanese-Letter-Typing-/382243958765?hash=item58ff83efed:g:kdcAAOSwvtFZ1jOx

Also take note that there are only 4 in stock of the Chinese ones.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Chinese-Lettering-Keyboard-Typing-102-Keyboard-Letter-Type-Model-6113442-NIB/381019318430?rt=nc&_soffid=100&_soffType=SaleAndClearence&_trksid=p5731.m3795
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ekeppel on Thu, 05 October 2017, 12:20:19
Nice. Too bad they aren't free shipping like the Chinese ones were / are, but still nice to see they are still some available. :-)
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: chyros on Thu, 05 October 2017, 15:33:38
Nice. Too bad they aren't free shipping like the Chinese ones were / are, but still nice to see they are still some available. :-)
Hah, the shipping is actually CHEAPER than the original listing to here xD .
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: xueyao on Thu, 05 October 2017, 18:44:05
What's the difference between the Chinese and Japanese model other than the characters on the caps?
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ander on Thu, 05 October 2017, 18:45:48
Yes, posted 14 Sept (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91568.msg2491779#msg2491779)
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: shicky256 on Sun, 08 October 2017, 17:51:23
Thanks for the heads up. I was hoping my weeb ass wouldn't have to settle for the Chinese one.

What's the difference between the Chinese and Japanese model other than the characters on the caps?

They're exactly the same (both also have double zero and triple zero variations, but that also shouldn't matter).
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Tue, 17 October 2017, 08:39:50
I already have these.  :D
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 17 October 2017, 22:11:50
Very tempted to buy one, but I think I'm way too lazy to get one working on a modern pc.

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 18 October 2017, 21:29:20
Very tempted to buy one, but I think I'm way too lazy to get one working on a modern pc.

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It's quite simple: soarer made it work before he left. Just remove the controller IC, drop in a teensy, put in a few jumpers and done. It works with the rows directly and in tandem with the mux chip for the columns. If you cut it in half you can solder a teensy in whree the mux chip is located, which makes the mod a lot easier.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50437.msg1193047#msg1193047
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85806.msg2302188#msg2302188
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Wed, 18 October 2017, 21:35:00
soarer made it work before he left.
Wait, wha?!?  I've really been out of the loop.  :confused: What happened?

Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ander on Mon, 06 November 2017, 02:17:17
Thanks for the heads up. I was hoping my weeb ass wouldn't have to settle for the Chinese one.
They're exactly the same (both also have double zero and triple zero variations, but that also shouldn't matter).

Weeb? Is that related to keeb?


I already have these.  :D

That's because you're One Classy Dude.


Very tempted to buy one, but I think I'm way too lazy to get one working on a modern pc.

So don't bother. Just put it somewhere where you, and anyone else who drops by who appreciates quality, rarity 'n' coolness, can admire it. It's a work of art. It doesn't have to be performance art.

Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:14:20
I already have these.  :D

That's because you're One Classy Dude.


Very tempted to buy one, but I think I'm way too lazy to get one working on a modern pc.

So don't bother. Just put it somewhere where you, and anyone else who drops by who appreciates quality, rarity 'n' coolness, can admire it. It's a work of art. It doesn't have to be performance art.
:D  Why thank you, Fine Sir.  :cool:

And this is a very good point about keyboards being art--because they are, especially for us.  Why else would there be so much interest in a book just showcasing these wonderful (and many times functional) works of art?

Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:23:40
soarer made it work before he left.
Wait, wha?!?  I've really been out of the loop.  ??? What happened?

He disappeared some time ago, I don't think anyone ever got any confirmation as to what exactly happened.


Very tempted to buy one, but I think I'm way too lazy to get one working on a modern pc.

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hasu makes a converter if you don't want to DIY

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72052.0
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Tue, 07 November 2017, 20:04:48
soarer made it work before he left.
Wait, wha?!?  I've really been out of the loop.  ??? What happened?

He disappeared some time ago, I don't think anyone ever got any confirmation as to what exactly happened.
I hope he's okay.  :(  It's simply amazing how much his contributions have impacted the keyboard enthusiast genre.  I hope he's able to benefit from it too--he earned it.  :cool:
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ander on Sun, 03 December 2017, 02:15:36
Hey, has anyone noticed? There are actually two variants of these Japanese boards:

IBM 5954339 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5954339-Japanese-Keyboard-Japanese-Letter-Typing/162751818108)

[attach=1]


IBM 6112884 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-6112884-Japanese-Keyboard-Japanese-Letter-Typing/382243958765)

[attach=2]


The number pads are different! Of course this means we must all have one of each.
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Sun, 03 December 2017, 09:46:45
Oh dear!  I think I have the 5954339 vs the 6112884.  I guess they just his the period on the 5954339 for numbers that had a decimal?
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: JP on Sun, 03 December 2017, 10:32:56
What if there are also two variants of the Chinese board? Would we need to have four?
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Sun, 03 December 2017, 17:45:10
What if there are also two variants of the Chinese board? Would we need to have four?
Agh! They're multiplying!  :eek:

Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ander on Mon, 04 December 2017, 01:36:51
I don't know about you guys (does anybody?), but I just spent 10 obsessive minutes flipping back and forth between those two photos.
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:42:45
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE THE JAPANESE PINGMASTERS?
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: JP on Mon, 04 December 2017, 18:27:40
I have a Japanese and a Chinese one.
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ander on Mon, 04 December 2017, 19:31:48
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Wed, 06 December 2017, 11:45:52
I have a Japanese and a Chinese one.
Me too. :)

Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ander on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:34:26
Wait a minute—are we talking about girlfriends here or keyboards?
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: matt-taco on Wed, 06 December 2017, 21:13:57
I have a Japanese and a Chinese one.
Me too. :)

I only have a chinky one...
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: JP on Wed, 06 December 2017, 22:31:57
Wait a minute—are we talking about girlfriends here or keyboards?

Yes.
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: ander on Thu, 07 December 2017, 01:56:33
Wait a minute—are we talking about girlfriends here or keyboards?

Yes.

I just don't want to start typing on the wrong one.
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: JP on Thu, 07 December 2017, 05:19:54
That's not an issue for me at least since my fingers are appreciated either way, however should they ever meet face to face that is another story  :))
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 07 December 2017, 21:50:16
Have I mentioned I love Asians?
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 19 December 2017, 17:01:15
This seems like an interesting and affordable project. I wonder if I should get one and put it together with the Teensy controller. How many people have done it so far?

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46529.0;attach=184575;image)
Title: Re: Japanese Pingmaster's are back!
Post by: OldIsNew on Tue, 19 December 2017, 17:43:45
This seems like an interesting and affordable project. I wonder if I should get one and put it together with the Teensy controller. How many people have done it so far?

Quite a few I believe. In case some folks haven't seen it on other threads:

It's fairly simple with a DB9 connector and  Hasu's  TMK converter.

[attach=1]


This is some wiring info from TMK documentation:

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Keyboard Plug from front:

DSUB-9
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\ N 2 3 4 5 /
\ N N N N /
---------
2 GND
3 VCC 5V
4 DATA
5 CLOCK
N No connection/No pin.

Connection

In case of using ATMega32U4/U2 (EDIT: The Teensy 2.0 uses the ATMega32U4)

1. Supply power with VCC and GND.
2. Connect CLOCK to PD1 and DATA to PD0. You can change pin with config.h.
3. Optionally you may need pull-up resistor. 1KOhm probably work.

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TMK converter and keyboard editor links: 

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/converter/ibm4704_usb/binary

http://www.tmk-kbd.com/tmk_keyboard/editor/unimap/?ibm4704_usb_alps

The DB9 connector I used:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WW6P636/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1