Very nice! Really like the silver, but would probably lean towards navy.
1. Is this compatible with tx84/7 pcb?
2. Is there any ETA?
No more brass weight? :-[Sadly no, I have to decrease costs a little to offset the lower quantity and higher cost of the main pieces due to being made locally.
Several question in my mind:
1. Would there be other material besides brass for the plate? Maybe stainless steel, alu, thick polycarb, or even PCB material? Brass is a very good one, but just want to know if there are also some other option available.
2. Curious if there could be alps compatible support? Like if the case can fit the leeku's Alps PCB, or if there would be alps compatible plate? (even with custom order and extra money?)
3. So if I really want cerokate, can I get a raw case (no anodize) and do it myself?
Several question in my mind:
1. Would there be other material besides brass for the plate? Maybe stainless steel, alu, thick polycarb, or even PCB material? Brass is a very good one, but just want to know if there are also some other option available.
2. Curious if there could be alps compatible support? Like if the case can fit the leeku's Alps PCB, or if there would be alps compatible plate? (even with custom order and extra money?)
3. So if I really want cerokate, can I get a raw case (no anodize) and do it myself?
I can answer Question 2. This uses the standard A87 form factor PCB, so you can get an Alphas PCB from Leeku and use it in this case (as long as you get a custom Alps plate made)
To answer your questions, I'm looking into offering polycarbonate plates in addition to the brass, but in order to reach price breaks the basic kit is required.
The current plate design I am using is mx/alps compatible, so any A.87 compatible pcb with the usb on the top will fit.
I will not be offering unfinished boards, as places that do cerakote will have to strip and clean it regardless. Anodized aluminum is also a little bit harder than raw, making it just a little bit safer to transport.
No more brass weight? :-[Sadly no, I have to decrease costs a little to offset the lower quantity and higher cost of the main pieces due to being made locally.
I can answer Question 2. This uses the standard A87 form factor PCB, so you can get an Alphas PCB from Leeku and use it in this case (as long as you get a custom Alps plate made)
To answer your questions, I'm looking into offering polycarbonate plates in addition to the brass, but in order to reach price breaks the basic kit is required.
The current plate design I am using is mx/alps compatible, so any A.87 compatible pcb with the usb on the top will fit.
I will not be offering unfinished boards, as places that do cerakote will have to strip and clean it regardless. Anodized aluminum is also a little bit harder than raw, making it just a little bit safer to transport.
Gotcha, thanks for the answer! Also would it be possible for mix and match for the color? Like top case red and bottom black?
No more brass weight? :-[Sadly no, I have to decrease costs a little to offset the lower quantity and higher cost of the main pieces due to being made locally.
So what’s the weight difference of round 2 compared to round 1?
Why are all the navy blue keyboards TKL? First the Norbauer case and now this :'( :'( :'(
Someone please make a navy blue 60% and I’ll love them forever.
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, I know the case is compatible with a.87 type PCB, but I am wondering if filco PCB is one of them, since would like to use a LFK TKL PCB with this case
Are you telling me we can use this WITHOUT a diffuser now?
Can we have a pic of the side profile please? :)(https://i.imgur.com/cmcc3SQ.jpg)
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, I know the case is compatible with a.87 type PCB, but I am wondering if filco PCB is one of them, since would like to use a LFK TKL PCB with this case
For the people complaining about raffle: would you like to suggest an alternative?
For the people complaining about raffle: would you like to suggest an alternative?
For the people complaining about raffle: would you like to suggest an alternative?
FCFS?
You had piqued my interest until I saw the price and then the raffle completely killed any interest I did have.
You had piqued my interest until I saw the price and then the raffle completely killed any interest I did have.
if going to be brutally honest I agree with the above. I also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy. I mean understand the first buy you got burned.. that sucks.. but perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy. Where quality would have been higher.. cost lower and units produced could meet demand!
I mean like said want a TKL. I would have been in the market for this are time if the prices would have been more reasonable. While time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable. This comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy. I just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking. The hype this item is getting is startling to say the least and shows me perhaps I am not as hardcore a enthusiast as some who must buy everything they see regardless.
Though do wish you good luck with thegroup buyraffle can't really call it a group buy its more a artisan raffle then Group buy. hope things work out nicely for you! and that all units sale. but if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.
but I can understand that people want something to be cheaper and have wider availability.
I also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy.
but perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy
While time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable.
This comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy.
I just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking.
But if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.
You had piqued my interest until I saw the price and then the raffle completely killed any interest I did have.
if going to be brutally honest I agree with the above. I also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy. I mean understand the first buy you got burned.. that sucks.. but perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy. Where quality would have been higher.. cost lower and units produced could meet demand!
I mean like said want a TKL. I would have been in the market for this are time if the prices would have been more reasonable. While time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable. This comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy. I just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking. The hype this item is getting is startling to say the least and shows me perhaps I am not as hardcore a enthusiast as some who must buy everything they see regardless.
Though do wish you good luck with thegroup buyraffle can't really call it a group buy its more a artisan raffle then Group buy. hope things work out nicely for you! and that all units sale. but if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.
So what makes this lower quality than the first group buy? Because it doesn't have a weight? Because it doesn't offer as many colours? The entire point of local manufacturing is higher quality, better qc, less lead time, and being able to effectively communicate what I need and want to my manufacturer.
Also to explain the MOQ and hard limit of 50, I'm one person, a lot of things went wrong in v1 and a large part of that was allowing it to be overly complicated with colour combinations and a higher quantity.
Frankly I'm a little insulted that you're suggesting I just stick to designing and leave myself out of the production of it, but I can understand that people want something to be cheaper and have wider availability.
QuoteI also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy.
27 covered this in his post, but how is this "lower quality?" If anything it's better. The price break to get the lowest price is at 50 units, and 27 thinks that doing any more would make it hard for him to handle the logistics of it. This was the main issue in round 1, and if I were 27, this is how I would do it as well.Quotebut perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy
And lose control over his own buy? This is just rude.QuoteWhile time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable.
So gaudy and overpriced (No offense to Senter, he's clearly put a lot of work into TIME TKL)? Comparing keyboards to cars is pretty lame, IMO. This isn't trying to be the best of the best. Mech27 V2 is basically a Jane with no weight, for half the aftermarket price. That's objectively a good deal.QuoteThis comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy.
Duck's boards have no weight and 2-3 colors, people seem to like those. 356CL DGE only has one, and people pay more for that than almost anything else.QuoteI just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking.
Without revealing too much: I've seen the cost breakdown, and you'd be surprised by the price of machine time outside of China, especially in Canada/USA. The price is justified. 27 has been looking into how to reduce it, and there isn't much left to reduce.QuoteBut if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.
And I thought I was rude...
QuoteI also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy.
27 covered this in his post, but how is this "lower quality?" If anything it's better. The price break to get the lowest price is at 50 units, and 27 thinks that doing any more would make it hard for him to handle the logistics of it. This was the main issue in round 1, and if I were 27, this is how I would do it as well.Quotebut perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy
And lose control over his own buy? This is just rude.QuoteWhile time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable.
So gaudy and overpriced (No offense to Senter, he's clearly put a lot of work into TIME TKL)? Comparing keyboards to cars is pretty lame, IMO. This isn't trying to be the best of the best. Mech27 V2 is basically a Jane with no weight, for half the aftermarket price. That's objectively a good deal.QuoteThis comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy.
Duck's boards have no weight and 2-3 colors, people seem to like those. 356CL DGE only has one, and people pay more for that than almost anything else.QuoteI just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking.
Without revealing too much: I've seen the cost breakdown, and you'd be surprised by the price of machine time outside of China, especially in Canada/USA. The price is justified. 27 has been looking into how to reduce it, and there isn't much left to reduce.QuoteBut if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.
And I thought I was rude...
QuoteI also don't understand the hard limit of 50 Keyboards with a MOQ of 50 or the need to have them manufactured locally at a higher price with lower quality then the first group buy.
27 covered this in his post, but how is this "lower quality?" If anything it's better. The price break to get the lowest price is at 50 units, and 27 thinks that doing any more would make it hard for him to handle the logistics of it. This was the main issue in round 1, and if I were 27, this is how I would do it as well.Quotebut perhaps it would have been better to try and give the design over to another and let them run a proper group buy
And lose control over his own buy? This is just rude.QuoteWhile time looks to be extremely quality almost Rolls Royce levels and its price is understandable.
So gaudy and overpriced (No offense to Senter, he's clearly put a lot of work into TIME TKL)? Comparing keyboards to cars is pretty lame, IMO. This isn't trying to be the best of the best. Mech27 V2 is basically a Jane with no weight, for half the aftermarket price. That's objectively a good deal.QuoteThis comes with out the brass weight. The case is more simple color selection is toned way way down from previous buy.
Duck's boards have no weight and 2-3 colors, people seem to like those. 356CL DGE only has one, and people pay more for that than almost anything else.QuoteI just don't see it being worth anywhere close to the 400 dollars + shipping your asking.
Without revealing too much: I've seen the cost breakdown, and you'd be surprised by the price of machine time outside of China, especially in Canada/USA. The price is justified. 27 has been looking into how to reduce it, and there isn't much left to reduce.QuoteBut if there is a round 3 perhaps handing the original designs over to someone else to produce would be better solution.
And I thought I was rude...
tbf...... comparing this to 356 dge is a bit unfair even duck...
Whats the angle? Same as Jane/V1?
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$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.
$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.
Wut? Try comparing that cost with Korean customs.
I though GH was supposed to be more aware of prices and keyboards than reddit lol...
I though GH was supposed to be more aware of prices and keyboards than reddit lol...
lotta new people on here lately is all
the custom kit community is fairly small
a lot of things went wrong in v1 and a large part of that was allowing it to be overly complicated with colour combinations and a higher quantityno surprise there. too many customization options is asking for trouble, case in point the E8-V1 GB
If not offering a weight, maybe design an insert on the inside so someone could run a custom weight GB like it’s done for Ducks?
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a lot of things went wrong in v1 and a large part of that was allowing it to be overly complicated with colour combinations and a higher quantityno surprise there. too many customization options is asking for trouble, case in point the E8-V1 GB
Different issues.you seem to have an opinion on everything. good for you!
No chance for Winkey layout?
Don't understand why the WKL layout is so popular, is it just aesthetics? The look of the blockers + big spacebar?
I mainly use Linux/OSX and work in terminals/editors/IDEs all day, can't imagine life w/o command key (or function key on the other side).
Can't fathom why a Windows user would prefer not having a Winkey either.
$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.It is about the same for all the TKL keyboard. Take a look at those expensive keycaps, they are expensive! Even keycaps from Vietnam like JellyKey is pricey too. (People used to think Made in China stuff were cheap, but now people are thinking that at least Made in China is better than Made in Vietnam, though Made in Italy stuff is still the luxury. BTW, I am just saying what I hear and I don't think I am discriminating against Vietnam, and I do think some keycaps from Vietnam look soooo good........)
wat$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.It is about the same for all the TKL keyboard. Take a look at those expensive keycaps, they are expensive! Even keycaps from Vietnam like JellyKey is pricey too. (People used to think Made in China stuff were cheap, but now people are thinking that at least Made in China is better than Made in Vietnam, though Made in Italy stuff is still the luxury. BTW, I am just saying what I hear and I don't think I am discriminating against Vietnam, and I do think some keycaps from Vietnam look soooo good........)
Titanium Keyboard kits are much much more expensive. They are like about $1000-2000 even from Asian countries. The good thing about them is you can always get unique design with your own taste. I mean you can ask the designer to even make it shinier than a Corsair.... But titanum is a good metal and pricey than silver anyway, so many Koreans are buying them. They are mainly from China and Koreans start to buy them from China.
wat$400? its no wonder manufacturing is dead in north america. good luck.It is about the same for all the TKL keyboard. Take a look at those expensive keycaps, they are expensive! Even keycaps from Vietnam like JellyKey is pricey too. (People used to think Made in China stuff were cheap, but now people are thinking that at least Made in China is better than Made in Vietnam, though Made in Italy stuff is still the luxury. BTW, I am just saying what I hear and I don't think I am discriminating against Vietnam, and I do think some keycaps from Vietnam look soooo good........)
Titanium Keyboard kits are much much more expensive. They are like about $1000-2000 even from Asian countries. The good thing about them is you can always get unique design with your own taste. I mean you can ask the designer to even make it shinier than a Corsair.... But titanum is a good metal and pricey than silver anyway, so many Koreans are buying them. They are mainly from China and Koreans start to buy them from China.
where are these titanium keyboards lol
Is there no other option for TKL PCB's besides the Jigon based ones? I would love for some QMK
Is there no other option for TKL PCB's besides the Jigon based ones? I would love for some QMK
At current, not anything easily available.
Snowpro exists, but it virtually impossible to get outside of Korea. I'm pretty sure that it's not QMK, either.
I've heard rumors that there is a QMK A.87 PCB in the works, but it's still a ways off.
Is there no other option for TKL PCB's besides the Jigon based ones? I would love for some QMK
Will the V1 plates be compatible with the V2 ones?
Hey 27, v2 looks great!Just quoting myself as I don't think my question was seen...
I have a v1 but was not part of the original GB. Any chance of a PCB and plate being offered separately? I've been itching to get a brass plate I'm this thing.
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Hey 27, v2 looks great!Just quoting myself as I don't think my question was seen...
I have a v1 but was not part of the original GB. Any chance of a PCB and plate being offered separately? I've been itching to get a brass plate I'm this thing.
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Better pictures will come in the next couple of days!Now I want this even more. But now I'm conflicted between the blue or the silver here, which looks so great with the GMK 9009 I'm getting soon.
Better pictures will come in the next couple of days!Now I want this even more. But now I'm conflicted between the blue or the silver here, which looks so great with the GMK 9009 I'm getting soon.
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You had piqued my interest until I saw the price and then the raffle completely killed any interest I did have.
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Wow, love that color. Is that silver or grey?