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Title: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 11:35:19
I had a blast at this past Saturday's Norcal Meetup. Lots of boards, lots of people. I went around asking "what is your favorite switch?". With ~400 in attendance, I was unable to get everyone, but here are the results.

Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Mon, 13 November 2017, 11:55:56
And not single right answer.  :))

I'd be curious to see the representation of switches across boards that were on display. But that would be a lot of work for someone to catalog and then data enter all the info.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 November 2017, 12:23:28
Too many dudez..


Gotta film m0ar attractive females merlin
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 13 November 2017, 12:24:15
every one looks like a kid there

now I know I'm getting old, **** :(
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 13 November 2017, 12:27:46
every one looks like a kid there

now I know I'm getting old, **** :(

Eat veggies..

Get skinny..

Shave unnecessary phat cloaking beard.. (yes everyone knows)

+ 15 younger looking.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 13 November 2017, 12:53:48
I feel like need to step up my game! I only ever used... standard switches hadn't created my own.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 13:12:17
every one looks like a kid there

now I know I'm getting old, **** :(

I did get a bunch of Asians, and Asians tend to look younger lol. We had the OG engineer who designed the M0110. To him everyone there was probably a kid.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: digi on Mon, 13 November 2017, 13:16:51
Crazy to hear so many people picking different cherry-clone switches. I have to wonder, after so many iterations of a cherry switch if some of them are saying they prefer the same mechanical switch under different names, lol.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 13:52:07
And not single right answer.  :))

I'd be curious to see the representation of switches across boards that were on display. But that would be a lot of work for someone to catalog and then data enter all the info.

Too much work for sure! I want to enjoy the meetup too! haha
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 13 November 2017, 13:55:32
Crazy to hear so many people picking different cherry-clone switches. I have to wonder, after so many iterations of a cherry switch if some of them are saying they prefer the same mechanical switch under different names, lol.

Honestly if I was given my choice of cherry are a clone. I 9-10 times pick the clones. The only thing to me cherry has going for it at this point is a name. Its like Asus Rog lineup... your paying for a name more then quality. While others have innovated and improved there offerings in most cases.

Cherry just keeps on chugging along with the same design.. the same scratchy molds. I hadn't tried new MX blacks but older production MX blacks in a rosewell board.. couldn't even compared to how smooth my Box Blacks and Gat blacks are.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 13 November 2017, 14:00:28
And not single right answer.  :))

I'd be curious to see the representation of switches across boards that were on display. But that would be a lot of work for someone to catalog and then data enter all the info.

Too much work for sure! I want to enjoy the meetup too! haha

That actually wouldn't be too much work. I might do that next time. It's also be cool to know where to boards came from, geographically.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: digi on Mon, 13 November 2017, 14:01:20
Crazy to hear so many people picking different cherry-clone switches. I have to wonder, after so many iterations of a cherry switch if some of them are saying they prefer the same mechanical switch under different names, lol.

Honestly if I was given my choice of cherry are a clone. I 9-10 times pick the clones. The only thing to me cherry has going for it at this point is a name. Its like Asus Rog lineup... your paying for a name more then quality. While others have innovated and improved there offerings in most cases.

Cherry just keeps on chugging along with the same design.. the same scratchy molds. I hadn't tried new MX blacks but older production MX blacks in a rosewell board.. couldn't even compared to how smooth my Box Blacks and Gat blacks are.

Actually that's not completely true. Cherry just redesigned their housings/stems (check out the new blacks). RBG's and Silents too. I wasn't really getting into the Clone vs. Cherry thing but more about the same switch getting multiple names. :)
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 13 November 2017, 14:39:06
Crazy to hear so many people picking different cherry-clone switches. I have to wonder, after so many iterations of a cherry switch if some of them are saying they prefer the same mechanical switch under different names, lol.

Honestly if I was given my choice of cherry are a clone. I 9-10 times pick the clones. The only thing to me cherry has going for it at this point is a name. Its like Asus Rog lineup... your paying for a name more then quality. While others have innovated and improved there offerings in most cases.

Cherry just keeps on chugging along with the same design.. the same scratchy molds. I hadn't tried new MX blacks but older production MX blacks in a rosewell board.. couldn't even compared to how smooth my Box Blacks and Gat blacks are.

Actually that's not completely true. Cherry just redesigned their housings/stems (check out the new blacks). RBG's and Silents too. I wasn't really getting into the Clone vs. Cherry thing but more about the same switch getting multiple names. :)

O got ya and I do want to try out new switches specially silent blacks! Those are as smooth as my box blacks... they maybe perfection ... like real perfection. do you happen to know if you can spring swap a silent switch? Cause I could see me getting some blacks swapping to 50-55g springs and giving them a real shot. I know box switches you really can't change much but not sure about cherry silent switches.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 13 November 2017, 14:48:37
You can change out springs the same way as any other Cherry MX Switch.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 13 November 2017, 15:02:10
You can change out springs the same way as any other Cherry MX Switch.

nice and thanks Merlin sorry didn't mean to get so far off topic in your thread.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 13 November 2017, 15:30:01
So is the consensus Cherry is dead and 3rd party copies are actually better, or is this just the cool hipster thing to like off-brand switches?
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: digi on Mon, 13 November 2017, 15:40:37
is this just the cool hipster thing to like off-brand switches?

I saw a lot of beard's in that video..
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: chyros on Mon, 13 November 2017, 15:45:27
I had a blast at this past Saturday's Norcal Meetup. Lots of boards, lots of people. I went around asking "what is your favorite switch?". With ~400 in attendance, I was unable to get everyone, but here are the results.

Heheheh, all those people and only the last guy got it right :p .
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 13 November 2017, 15:45:36
So is the consensus Cherry is dead and 3rd party copies are actually better, or is this just the cool hipster thing to like off-brand switches?

Or maybe it really is preference. After trying a lot of switches out there, none of Cherry's stock offerings do it for me. When it comes to linear switches, Reds are too light and Blacks are too heavy. The same applies for Browns and Clears for tactile switches. If they made a tactile switch that bottoms out in the 67-70g region, I'd probably be perfectly happy to use it.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: dante on Tue, 14 November 2017, 13:23:46
So is the consensus Cherry is dead and 3rd party copies are actually better, or is this just the cool hipster thing to like off-brand switches?

Both Cherry and Kailh suck.

Some recent batches of Cherry switches are not smooth.  Likewise I can't find anyone at Kailh to explain why some batches are shipping without lubricant.

None of this will matter to the DIY'er.  They will lube their Franken switches to their personal preferences.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 15 November 2017, 16:31:02
So is the consensus Cherry is dead and 3rd party copies are actually better, or is this just the cool hipster thing to like off-brand switches?

I think for a while the latter was true. People got on the Zealio hype train SUPER HARD, but I think the sheer amount of linear options Gateron offered were what made them a leading competitor. Their quality helped them push past the initial bad rep that Kailh got laid with.

I haven't tried Gaterons myself because I don't like linear switches, but the Kailh blue and browns I tried, I really liked.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 22 November 2017, 01:38:09
Props to my dude at the end with the ALPS!  :))
Cool concept for the video. I love hearing all the different ways people pronounce Topre too.
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: 1swt2gs on Wed, 22 November 2017, 01:53:21
saw a few familiar faces in the videos!
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 22 November 2017, 02:25:32
So is the consensus Cherry is dead and 3rd party copies are actually better, or is this just the cool hipster thing to like off-brand switches?

six of one, half a dozen of the other

i all but refuse to use anything other than cherry linears, but for tactiles things get a little fuzzy
Title: Re: What is your favorite switch? Excerpts from the 11/11/17 Norcal Meetup
Post by: SamirD on Fri, 24 November 2017, 23:55:47
Holy crap!  400 people at a meetup!  What a party!  :thumb: