Approval bump :thumb:Thanks to approve! I will update the price in this thread!
As always, caveat emptor. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0)
Even though your GB has prices on the website, please add all the relevant info to the OP for ease of access for GB participants.
Best site for Australian customers?
In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with it
United States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"You probably know more about this than I do so I’ll defer to your judgment. Just wanted to point out what I understood from the post.
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
sorry for late reply.In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
yup, postage is $48-$75 AUD for the set
edit: thanks Puddsy, have emailed the OP see how I go.
Yo! Brother.Thx bro. Go go!! You are first guy was participated in this GB :thumb:
Come on :thumb:
sorry for late reply.In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
yup, postage is $48-$75 AUD for the set
edit: thanks Puddsy, have emailed the OP see how I go.
Korea is using bank transfer system. So if I consider the paypal fee and exchange rate, price will be below,
- base : 155usd
- led space : 30usd
- shipping : 26usd
I think that it does not have merit to you.
But if you have friend in Korea, would be helpful.
Moresorry for late reply.In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
yup, postage is $48-$75 AUD for the set
edit: thanks Puddsy, have emailed the OP see how I go.
Korea is using bank transfer system. So if I consider the paypal fee and exchange rate, price will be below,
- base : 155usd
- led space : 30usd
- shipping : 26usd
I think that it does not have merit to you.
But if you have friend in Korea, would be helpful.
AUD or USD?
USD. As I mentioned before, Korea is bank transfer system. And exchange rate, Paypal fee are big influence on result cost. So I joined the proxys to provide this set with resonable price.sorry for late reply.In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
yup, postage is $48-$75 AUD for the set
edit: thanks Puddsy, have emailed the OP see how I go.
Korea is using bank transfer system. So if I consider the paypal fee and exchange rate, price will be below,
- base : 155usd
- led space : 30usd
- shipping : 26usd
I think that it does not have merit to you.
But if you have friend in Korea, would be helpful.
AUD or USD?
Every 2 days I will update the count status in first reply. Please check.
And one more news.
Now I am discussing with Z-Frontier for China. If decided, I will update.
We don't make a block. If Zfrontoer will be joined and they allow to ship this set, it is your choice. ^^Every 2 days I will update the count status in first reply. Please check.
And one more news.
Now I am discussing with Z-Frontier for China. If decided, I will update.
Can SEA Users buy the set from ZFrontier instead from donutcable? thx.
Ordered via Z-Frontier. Hope we can make it through.Thanks. Just receive the z-frontier information and I update information of z-frontier. ^^
Moresorry for late reply.In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
yup, postage is $48-$75 AUD for the set
edit: thanks Puddsy, have emailed the OP see how I go.
Korea is using bank transfer system. So if I consider the paypal fee and exchange rate, price will be below,
- base : 155usd
- led space : 30usd
- shipping : 26usd
I think that it does not have merit to you.
But if you have friend in Korea, would be helpful.
AUD or USD?
he clearly says USD?
USD. As I mentioned before, Korea is bank transfer system. And exchange rate, Paypal fee are big influence on result cost. So I joined the proxys to provide this set with resonable price.Moresorry for late reply.In the OP Coco saysBest site for Australian customers?
try the kbdlab one
PM cocobrais if you're having trouble with itQuoteUnited States(also handling whole countries excepting EU and Korea)I think he means to say that Donut will handle all other countries besides the EU and Korea. Would probably be easier than trying to translate the Korean on kbdlab.
kbdlab is just old-school "fill out a form and wait"
shipping from US -> AUS is ridiculously expensive
yup, postage is $48-$75 AUD for the set
edit: thanks Puddsy, have emailed the OP see how I go.
Korea is using bank transfer system. So if I consider the paypal fee and exchange rate, price will be below,
- base : 155usd
- led space : 30usd
- shipping : 26usd
I think that it does not have merit to you.
But if you have friend in Korea, would be helpful.
AUD or USD?
Jumped in for a set of this. Probably my last set for a while so i'm definitely looking forward to it :thumb:Great!!! I hope so^^
Are you guys posting on reddit?No. I am not a reddit user. Just have a ID. But not active.
Are you guys posting on reddit?No. I am not a reddit user. Just have a ID. But not active.
Joined. I was wondering whether the payment happens way before the 20th of January, as that is my payday. In any case, can't wait!You can findbthe timeline as below.
Aha. I will try to make it in reddit.Are you guys posting on reddit?No. I am not a reddit user. Just have a ID. But not active.
On mechmarket, only the GB runners can post, they will delete the post otherwise.
I find this on reddit. Already Donutcat made it as below,Are you guys posting on reddit?No. I am not a reddit user. Just have a ID. But not active.
On mechmarket, only the GB runners can post, they will delete the post otherwise.
20/12/2017 current status
Base set : 53set
Led+space bar kit : 31set
US will be added.
sorry for confusion. US number was added but just number of 2day before.20/12/2017 current status
Base set : 53set
Led+space bar kit : 31set
US will be added.
Wait, so those numbers don't include US orders?
Gotcha, and all good.I hope that MOQ will be reached and closed asap. Also order to GMK. But not easy. But maybe we will be able to reach the MOQ....hope that...
That makes me sad, doesn't seem like it's gonna get close enough the rate it's going >_<. I wish I could afford to order more than 1 right now just to increase chances lol.
I thought this set would fare way better and placed my order early in order not to miss out.Yes, burgundy was reached just 10days. This set number have been elevating slowly.
We seem to be stuck at 50 whereas Burgundy's MOQ was reached in about 10 days :'(
I thought this set would fare way better and placed my order early in order not to miss out.Yes, burgundy was reached just 10days. This set number have been elevating slowly.
We seem to be stuck at 50 whereas Burgundy's MOQ was reached in about 10 days :'(
I really wanted to get this set and so I tried to get more competive price.
As a result, GMK give very good quotation and maybe this set is low price than other similar set.
I hope that we will reach the MOQ...really want. :D
Christmas bonus!!!! very happy!I thought this set would fare way better and placed my order early in order not to miss out.Yes, burgundy was reached just 10days. This set number have been elevating slowly.
We seem to be stuck at 50 whereas Burgundy's MOQ was reached in about 10 days :'(
I really wanted to get this set and so I tried to get more competive price.
As a result, GMK give very good quotation and maybe this set is low price than other similar set.
I hope that we will reach the MOQ...really want. :D
I'm planning to join this buy via the EU proxy next week, Christmas period shopping for friends and family means that I have to wait a bit before joining (Christmas bonus soon :TM: )
I try to post the GB thread in Reddit. But so sadly,Are you guys posting on reddit?No. I am not a reddit user. Just have a ID. But not active.
On mechmarket, only the GB runners can post, they will delete the post otherwise.
I try to post the GB thread in Reddit. But so sadly,Are you guys posting on reddit?No. I am not a reddit user. Just have a ID. But not active.
On mechmarket, only the GB runners can post, they will delete the post otherwise.
"Hello cocobrais, your post has automatically been removed due to your account not meeting the minimum posting requirements. "
Really sad! :-[
Do we have any updated purchase counts? :)counts is updated.
I have no idea why this set can't get more buyers. It's so simple and elegant.
I have no idea why this set can't get more buyers. It's so simple and elegant.I also think so. Maybe just not good timing.
I really hope our moq will be reached. Extend again if it needs to. HahaHaha really?? Very long shot....
Really hope this makes it. If you're on the fence - do it! ;D ;DMaybe if you will join with 10set, reach!! Just joke. ;D
I have no idea why this set can't get more buyers. It's so simple and elegant.
EU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
EU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
German VAT is 19%, funny how that works out :))
EU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
German VAT is 19%, funny how that works out :))
Yes, that explains everything, except that the price states it includes VAT
EU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
German VAT is 19%, funny how that works out :))
Yes, that explains everything, except that the price states it includes VAT
EU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
German VAT is 19%, funny how that works out :))
Yes, that explains everything, except that the price states it includes VAT
Perhaps it is a typo as if you would convert 129 us dollars to euros you'll get exactly 107 which doesn't include VAT. Then you have to add it on the top.
EU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
German VAT is 19%, funny how that works out :))
Yes, that explains everything, except that the price states it includes VAT
US Retail prices NEVER includes VAT, as the US tax structures varies state by state and most online retailer circumvents sales tax and only collects it when the individual state requires them to.
129USD from donut's website translate to about 107.2EUR at current exchange rates, adding 19% VAT comes to 127.6EUR
EU Proxy pricing is 129 EUR for the base kit (this already includes VAT). This matches well to the US pricing, taking into account some variation in exchange rates. I do not see why you are complaining. It is simply not possible for the EU proxy to not collect VAT on sales, so Candykeys are charging exactly how much I would expect them to.
Can you explain in further details on why you think Candykeys is ripping us off? Is there something that I forgot to take into account?
EU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
German VAT is 19%, funny how that works out :))
Yes, that explains everything, except that the price states it includes VAT
Perhaps it is a typo as if you would convert 129 us dollars to euros you'll get exactly 107 which doesn't include VAT. Then you have to add it on the top.
Ok, that fits together really well, I guess that's what happenedEU proxy has a 19% increase on the original price, not gonna pay that much extra for a mono-colored set.
German VAT is 19%, funny how that works out :))
Yes, that explains everything, except that the price states it includes VAT
US Retail prices NEVER includes VAT, as the US tax structures varies state by state and most online retailer circumvents sales tax and only collects it when the individual state requires them to.
129USD from donut's website translate to about 107.2EUR at current exchange rates, adding 19% VAT comes to 127.6EUR
EU Proxy pricing is 129 EUR for the base kit (this already includes VAT). This matches well to the US pricing, taking into account some variation in exchange rates. I do not see why you are complaining. It is simply not possible for the EU proxy to not collect VAT on sales, so Candykeys are charging exactly how much I would expect them to.
Can you explain in further details on why you think Candykeys is ripping us off? Is there something that I forgot to take into account?
I was going by the EU price stated in this thread, I think it's just incorrect.
Todays counts is below
Base : 68 set
Led+spacebar : 45 set.
This week is last week..So hard to reach the MOQ.
I will join this before closing. I don't know why this set is lower count. Maybe this set is perfect for my Bok.CP, specially black and geay color. ;DPlease join this GB with 10set. Haha
My wallet is empty because of BOK.CP.......1 set will be joined...Sorry.I will join this before closing. I don't know why this set is lower count. Maybe this set is perfect for my Bok.CP, specially black and geay color. ;DPlease join this GB with 10set. Haha
Anyone know whats going on with Donut Cat's website?? I get Error508.I sent the message to Donutcat to fix the website. Please wait. Sorry for uncomfortable.
I hopefully, Donutcat can fix his website before teh 7th otherwise seems like I'm going overseas.
Sorry about the website malfunction, I've been having issues with WP lately and may end up doing a "site refresh" later on in the month when I'm no longer working fulltime. I am hoping to have the site back functional later tonite or tomorrow morning.Thanks Donutcat! You saved me like $25 in shipping
8.1. already here. Any news on whether we reached MOQ or not? Hopefully we did!Now I have been gathering the counts from proxies. I will update.
Would definitely pick it op if there was a Norde kit even with a EU proxy.. :confused:
Would definitely pick it op if there was a Norde kit even with a EU proxy.. :confused:
Would definitely pick it op if there was a Norde kit even with a EU proxy.. :confused:
EU/Norde/International kits don't sell. I don't have the numbers on hand since I'm on mobile, but the numbers for the past 5 or so GMK sets with these kits that ran have shown a pretty steady trend of <5% order for these kits vs the base kits. Besides meaning that these kits have a statistically insignificant purchase rate, this means you need the base kit to hit the upper bounds of what even Massdrop can sell in order to be produced. This means that for small set designers not going through MD, it's not worth the time and effort to design a kit and get it mocked up/quoted by GMK. There's always so many people that will yell and complain about these kits not being included, but they seem to disappear when it comes time to commit.
Edit: I'm back with numbers now that I'm home from work.
GMK Plum: ~1600 base kits, 36 int kits, .0225 crossover
GMK Nautilus: 1899 base kits, 82 int kits, .04318 crossover
GMK Yuri: 935 base kits, 40 int kits, .04278 crossover
GMK Laser: 2103 base kits, 100 int kits, .04755 crossover
GMK Royal Alpha R2: 220 base kits, 14 int kits, .06363 crossover
Total Base: 6757
Total "Int" kits: 272
Average crossover: .04025
Any news on numbers?I request the counts to CN and EU proxies.
GB closed.Great news! We need more CR sets. N9 is nice but not black enough :)
Just about 60% of MOQ was joined but all proxies share the extra sets. So we can progress this GB.
I will request the invoice to GMK this week and if all proxies will pay the payment to GMK, I will inform this in this thread.
Many thank to GB proxies and joined members. :D
Wow! You guys rock! Thanks!All proxies are rock! ;D
GB closed.Awesome! This was a close one, many thanks for deciding to take a small hit while proceeding with GB.
Just about 60% of MOQ was joined but all proxies share the extra sets. So we can progress this GB.
I will request the invoice to GMK this week and if all proxies will pay the payment to GMK, I will inform this in this thread.
Many thank to GB proxies and joined members. :D
Any news? Still waiting for an invoice.Regarding invoice, I and EU side received invoice form GMK but CN didn't receive it.
Any news? Still waiting for an invoice.Regarding invoice, I and EU side received invoice form GMK but CN didn't receive it.
So I check this and request it to GMK again. Also I am checking US side.
In case of KR(my side), Yesterday I paid the payment to GMK and waiting the confirmation from GMK.
If all proxies will receive the invoice and pay the payment, I will update this news.
Invoice received and paid. And saw the good-looking cable which at least CandyKeys offers for this one as well, had to buy. :)Good!! EU and US will pay the payment to GMK soon and at the moment I will update.
GB closed.
Just about 60% of MOQ was joined but all proxies share the extra sets. So we can progress this GB.
I will request the invoice to GMK this week and if all proxies will pay the payment to GMK, I will inform this in this thread.
Many thank to GB proxies and joined members. :D
GB closed.
Just about 60% of MOQ was joined but all proxies share the extra sets. So we can progress this GB.
I will request the invoice to GMK this week and if all proxies will pay the payment to GMK, I will inform this in this thread.
Many thank to GB proxies and joined members. :D
If the proxies covered extra sets, does that mean there will be extras available once this ships? I missed out on this and might want it once it arrives.
Status update.
I have been checking to pay the payment to GMK and yesterday receive the feedback.
All payment was paid to GMK.
And one good news,
GMK said that this sets are ready in production and will be ready for shipping soon.
It is very fast schedule than expected.
Maybe next update will be news about finishing production or shipping information from GMK.
Status update.
I have been checking to pay the payment to GMK and yesterday receive the feedback.
All payment was paid to GMK.
And one good news,
GMK said that this sets are ready in production and will be ready for shipping soon.
It is very fast schedule than expected.
Maybe next update will be news about finishing production or shipping information from GMK.
Sounds like they're getting quicker recently :eek:
Status update.
I have been checking to pay the payment to GMK and yesterday receive the feedback.
All payment was paid to GMK.
And one good news,
GMK said that this sets are ready in production and will be ready for shipping soon.
It is very fast schedule than expected.
Maybe next update will be news about finishing production or shipping information from GMK.
Sounds like they're getting quicker recently :eek:
i heard that they've reorganized how they handle their capacity because they want to speed up due to the increased volume of sets being ordered.
Did they shipped to proxy separately or to one place?separately. Maybe other proxies also will get the tracking number soon.
Just news!!
Now I got the email from GMK. Tracking number also!!!!
Excited!!
Received my tracking number as well. Delivery is scheduled for Thursday, so I'm planning on having all my orders out Friday.Good News!! Thank!! :D
Received my tracking number as well. Delivery is scheduled for Thursday, so I'm planning on having all my orders out Friday.GMK has really upped their game recently. Didn't this GB end right around the new year?
Payment was submitted to GMK at the end of FebruaryReceived my tracking number as well. Delivery is scheduled for Thursday, so I'm planning on having all my orders out Friday.GMK has really upped their game recently. Didn't this GB end right around the new year?
Payment was submitted to GMK at the end of FebruaryReceived my tracking number as well. Delivery is scheduled for Thursday, so I'm planning on having all my orders out Friday.GMK has really upped their game recently. Didn't this GB end right around the new year?
Yeah end of jan. So basically a month from payment to delivery. Possible the fastest GMK delivery ever?
Candykeys, are you also getting delivery this week?
Yeah end of jan. So basically a month from payment to delivery. Possible the fastest GMK delivery ever?
Candykeys, are you also getting delivery this week?
Quite impressive. I imagine GMK had some free time so because it's stock colors & a very low quantity, makes sense.
Don't you mean end of January? End of February was three days ago.
Don't you mean end of January? End of February was three days ago.
Words are hard sometimes.
Also, in regards to GMK, there is rumor that they've split up their production. Sets that are simple and require relatively little effort on their part, such as stock colors and few to no custom legends appear to have production separated form sets that are intensive, such as custom colors, multiple custom legends, etc. Due to this we got Blue on Black in record time, and Royal Alpha actually didn't start production until near the end of January due to our payment issues, so that was also exceptionally quick given GMK's normal 12-14week timelines. We might be in a new era of quick and easy sets being able to go from GB period to fulfillment in under 3 months on a regular basis.
We might be in a new era of quick and easy sets being able to go from GB period to fulfillment in under 3 months on a regular basis.Truly a golden era for keyboards. Plus, it’s still getting better.
My order at Candykeys has just been shipped.
Any hope of extras or a round 2?Most, or every proxy might have some in stock.
Any hope of extras or a round 2?Most, or every proxy might have some in stock.
Is there any pics of the set yet?I think that only Candykeys received this keyset because of GMK direct pick up. But maybe he don't update the picture yet and just ship to users. Maybe today I will receive the set and if I will receive it, I will take pictures and update.
Is there any pics of the set yet?I think that only Candykeys received this keyset because of GMK direct pick up. But maybe he don't update the picture yet and just ship to users. Maybe today I will receive the set and if I will receive it, I will take pictures and update.
Yep, I'll have a decent bit of extras. They'll probably be available 1-2weeks after GB orders go out.
Just arrived.Gorgeous. Thank you for posting these. Can't wait for the set to arrive!
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First GMK is stepping up their game, now FedEx is too. Original delivery was supposed to be Thursday, but now we're up two days randomly, though I'm not complaining :P One slight downside is that I'm out of bubblewrap currently and my 700ft rolls aren't scheduled to be delivered until somewhere between tomorrow and Friday, so I'm not even sure if I'll be able to get them out two days early :\ Additionally, I've made a bit of a mistake not keeping proper track of my box stock after royal alpha fulfillment, so I'm not sure I'll be able to get this out before the weekend. I was really hoping for a 24hr turnaround like with Royal Alpha, but unfortunately that won't be the case this time :(
My new first world GMK problem is that GMK is producing these sets so fast now I don't even have a keyboard to put these on yet.
Some quick shots on my norbatouchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/A1SIzfa.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m7KMM3f.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2fBOKw8.jpg)
Some quick shots on my norbatouchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/A1SIzfa.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m7KMM3f.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2fBOKw8.jpg)
Some quick shots on my norbatouchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/A1SIzfa.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m7KMM3f.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2fBOKw8.jpg)
Any extra sets available?all proxies have some extra set and maybe they will open it.
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Has anyone else received tracking information from CandyKeys? I received an email telling me the set will ship soon and a DHL tracking code will be emailed separately (I presume a shipping label was printed at this time?). I have not received the set nor the tracking code. The email landed in my inbox almost week ago.
Has anyone else received tracking information from CandyKeys? I received an email telling me the set will ship soon and a DHL tracking code will be emailed separately (I presume a shipping label was printed at this time?). I have not received the set nor the tracking code. The email landed in my inbox almost week ago.
I got my set in this week. Shipping was untracked.
Has anyone else received tracking information from CandyKeys? I received an email telling me the set will ship soon and a DHL tracking code will be emailed separately (I presume a shipping label was printed at this time?). I have not received the set nor the tracking code. The email landed in my inbox almost week ago.
Hmm I have received nothing from that sender address, not even my spam box shows anything. Maybe I'll contact CandyKeys and ask what's up. Thanks.Has anyone else received tracking information from CandyKeys? I received an email telling me the set will ship soon and a DHL tracking code will be emailed separately (I presume a shipping label was printed at this time?). I have not received the set nor the tracking code. The email landed in my inbox almost week ago.
Got my tracking code from DHL (no-reply@deutschepost.de) a couple of hours after the candykeys mail. Received my set yesterday.
Got my shipping materials in today(about time!) and I'll be printing off labels this afternoon and packing sets to go out tomorrow afternoon. Apologies for any inconvenience there might be from my delayed shipment.
Got everything dumped at the post office this afternoon, aside from the order that I was asked to hold. Most of you should see your set before the end of the week.thanks for update. Hope that all participants will be satisfied.