Definitely interested. Will things like split backspace/numpad keys be possible?
Definitely interested. Will things like split backspace/numpad keys be possible?
you can tell by the picture of the plate that split bs is not possible
Definitely interested. Will things like split backspace/numpad keys be possible?
you can tell by the picture of the plate that split bs is not possible
Oh ****, I didn't even look for that.
Yea please add split backspace(1u+1u) and split right shift(1.75u+1u) support.
It's a blackbird
The LED holes above the arrows are not central?
What kind of colours can we expect?
Definitely interested. Will things like split backspace/numpad keys be possible?
Any reason for type-c instead of mini b? I'll have to start getting new cables...
I noticed that which is why I asked. Those features are quite important to me so I felt it’s worth it to mention. They also didn’t post the possible layouts so it may or may not have been set in stone but it looks like it has been. At least for this round.Definitely interested. Will things like split backspace/numpad keys be possible?
you can tell by the picture of the plate that split bs is not possible
I think this would look much better without the side cutout that creates a heel in the back.
can you center the 3 led cluster above the arrows?
Updated color samples:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bwzCxS2.jpg)
These are all we can do, but not all we'll provide in the GB.
can you center the 3 led cluster above the arrows?
Yes.
I just asked alsoran why he designed the LEDs not in the center. His initial idea was to engrave some legends following the diagonal at that position. I told him that's a bad idea. The LEDs will be in the center in the final versions.
Updated color samples:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bwzCxS2.jpg)
These are all we can do, but not all we'll provide in the GB.
Split BS or bust.Preach
It's a blackbirdYes, basically it's one of blackbird's layouts.
You dont see people asking the designers of OTD boards to use their designs on the rips of those, do you? you can't exactly patent a keyboard layout.It's a blackbirdYes, basically it's one of blackbird's layouts.
Hmm, did you get Duck's permission? The Blackbird design/layout is obviously something unique that he pioneered. He may have a design patent on this.
I don't know where he stands on permitting reuse, but in any case it would be huge disrespect to the designer if permission hasn't been asked for.
what is the shipping prices look like for this board?
In the production sample, the LED indicator holes are not centered with they keys above. CANNOT UNSEE.
Ofc China would never copy anything /sIt's a blackbirdYes, basically it's one of blackbird's layouts.
Hmm, did you get Duck's permission? The Blackbird design/layout is obviously something unique that he pioneered. He may have a design patent on this.
I don't know where he stands on permitting reuse, but in any case it would be huge disrespect to the designer if permission hasn't been asked for.
what is the shipping prices look like for this board?
Shipping price is TBD but won't be much different from many other boards.In the production sample, the LED indicator holes are not centered with they keys above. CANNOT UNSEE.
That will be fixed. Check my reply here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93203.msg2539585#msg2539585).
It's a blackbirdYes, basically it's one of blackbird's layouts.
Hmm, did you get Duck's permission? The Blackbird design/layout is obviously something unique that he pioneered. He may have a design patent on this.
I don't know where he stands on permitting reuse, but in any case it would be huge disrespect to the designer if permission hasn't been asked for.
No plans to change plate for split backspace or more bottom row options?
No plans to change plate for split backspace or more bottom row options?
Sorry, no.
Yea would need split bs to even consider this, nice price though.
Can you at least just do split backspace (I.e. HHKB style)? You wouldn't need to mess with the plate anywhere near as much as offering a bunch of bottom row options would require, and I'm pretty sure a lot of people really want it.
However, layout is not something should be protected in my opinion.Amen!
tbh i could care less, i have many traditional and many split backspace. It is quite easy to switch between the two layouts...
The effort on creating or designing something need to be respected. I do respect all the designers.
The effort on creating or designing something need to be respected. I do respect all the designers.
In lieu of obtaining permission, you should minimally credit the original design.
If you don't have the decency to pay such simple courtesy, you are a COPYCAT.
actually, i messaged back and forth with duck about this today, he couldn't care less
the sides look nothing like the blackbird, which is all he cares about really
unless you'd like to get pissy about 96key layouts too, since duck came up with that as well, and how many of those credit him?
this is just how the community is, something becomes hard enough to get, a copy will eventually pop up
if he was selling these on taobao as "duck blackbird" i'd be annoyed, sure, but this is a unique design, so that's not a concern
actually, i messaged back and forth with duck about this today, he couldn't care less
the sides look nothing like the blackbird, which is all he cares about really
unless you'd like to get pissy about 96key layouts too, since duck came up with that as well, and how many of those credit him?
this is just how the community is, something becomes hard enough to get, a copy will eventually pop up
if he was selling these on taobao as "duck blackbird" i'd be annoyed, sure, but this is a unique design, so that's not a concern
Thanks Puddsy. Duck is a respectful designer and also a reasonable man.
I would ask for permission if we really copied something I think we shouldn't. I didn't ask because I don't think layout is something need to be protected. And many people, including Duck apparently, agree with me. If I don't believe in this, even the 96key layout example doesn't make it legit to me.
If they do make the change, i hope the offer both plates. I don’t really need any extra gaps in my plate :P
I totally get the benefits of universal plates and ****, but to me it’s night and day how much better a plate cut to a single layout looks.
pics of PCB please?
It's funny that I've been using compact keyboards with no function row for years (Leopold FC660M, TADA68, Tina, etc) and only now have I seen this yearn for split backspaces.It’s usually not mentioned because almost all custom kits, including the Tina pcb, already have the option. No need to ask for it if it’s already there.
Ah well, I guess it's not that big of a change to make. Kinda funny though.
It's funny that I've been using compact keyboards with no function row for years (Leopold FC660M, TADA68, Tina, etc) and only now have I seen this yearn for split backspaces.
Ah well, I guess it's not that big of a change to make. Kinda funny though.
Just confirmed from Alsoran that split BS will be added.
Two types of plate is TBD. Will keep you updated.
It's funny that I've been using compact keyboards with no function row for years (Leopold FC660M, TADA68, Tina, etc) and only now have I seen this yearn for split backspaces.
Ah well, I guess it's not that big of a change to make. Kinda funny though.
Just confirmed from Alsoran that split BS will be added.
Two types of plate is TBD. Will keep you updated.
Just confirmed from Alsoran that split BS will be added.
Two types of plate is TBD. Will keep you updated.
As long as it doesn't have iso or a swiss cheese bottom row I think most people will be fine with 1 plate; being split bs/shift and stepped/nonstepped caps lock.
-no split BSthis
-split RIGHT shift
-Switch tops removable
A small thing, could the pcb not be matte? Matte finished pcbs attract finger oils super bad and are hard to clean /:
Whats the proposed timeline?
Definitely very interested in this, excited to see the new revision :)
In the OP you mentioned other GBs your friend was involved in; can you elaborate a bit please?
In the OP you mentioned other GBs your friend was involved in; can you elaborate a bit please?
Sure, there were two GBs.
The first one is called A80. It's a TKL board. Here's an album: https://imgur.com/a/bJPfF
The second one is Aubt60, which include one 60% board and a numpad. Album: https://imgur.com/a/euFNT
Thanks a lot :) there won't be a WKL option for this GB will there, just the blockers?
Also, this blue https://i.imgur.com/Ufx5zEo.jpg
Is that the darker blue in the sample set, or is it unavailable for this GB? It looks really nice
Oh no, it looks gorgeous and my wallet isn't ready!Definitely very interested in this, excited to see the new revision :)
The revisions on top case, PCB, and plate are already finished.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MjNMNup.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tDrV2s5.jpg)
I'm waiting for the approval of GB post.
Nice what's the ETA for the group buy?Definitely very interested in this, excited to see the new revision :)
The revisions on top case, PCB, and plate are already finished.
I'm waiting for the approval of GB post.
Nice what's the ETA for the group buy?Definitely very interested in this, excited to see the new revision :)
The revisions on top case, PCB, and plate are already finished.
I'm waiting for the approval of GB post.
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I'm sorry I meant to ask when do you think the group buy will begin, as soon as your post is approved?Nice what's the ETA for the group buy?Definitely very interested in this, excited to see the new revision :)
The revisions on top case, PCB, and plate are already finished.
I'm waiting for the approval of GB post.
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10 days after GB gets approved or MOQ 50 is reached.
I'm sorry I meant to ask when do you think the group buy will begin, as soon as your post is approved?
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10 days after GB gets approved or MOQ 50 is reached.
I assume this means if after ten days there is not 50 units it will extend the GB period but it's a minimum target not a maximum threshold.10 days after GB gets approved or MOQ 50 is reached.
Does this mean the board is limited to 50 units including the the chinese gb number?
I assume this means if after ten days there is not 50 units it will extend the GB period but it's a minimum target not a maximum threshold.
So how many units are even available to the international buyers, since the Chinese GB is already started?
So how many units are even available to the international buyers, since the Chinese GB is already started?
that's minimum, not maximum
So how many units are even available to the international buyers, since the Chinese GB is already started?
that's minimum, not maximum
“I will end the GB as soon as 50 units are reached even it's not 10 days at that time.”
Am I not reading this right