Looks great chris! Only suggestions I would have is to add a 2.75u spacebar, and a grey \| key option.Noted on both and thanks!
I just noticed the short shift key in the mods kit. That should be part of every keyset mod kit, instead of having to buy a whole extra kit for one key.Yeah that's a challenging one. I agree, and I'd love to add it into alternatives, but... It starts to get challenging... If I add short shift do I add 1.25 ctrl, os and alt keys so that the kit becomes standalone for a 40 for example? The short shift is intended for use with ISO within the tkl mods tbh, it's use in 40s etc is an unintended but happy coincidence.
I just noticed the short shift key in the mods kit. That should be part of every keyset mod kit, instead of having to buy a whole extra kit for one key.Yeah that's a challenging one. I agree, and I'd love to add it into alternatives, but... It starts to get challenging... If I add short shift do I add 1.25 ctrl, os and alt keys so that the kit becomes standalone for a 40 for example? The short shift is intended for use with ISO within the tkl mods tbh, it's use in 40s etc is an unintended but happy coincidence.
If that's the case but a buyer needs an additional key from the alternates (to support a wkl with 1.5u modifiers for example) then they'll end up with duplicate keys?
I don't pretend to know the answer here to be frank, and further thoughts would be appreciated!
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Love it! Personally would like to see a stand alone 40s kit but the kits are nice and simplistic :thumb:Thanks! I'm beginning to agree on a standalone 40s kit, I'll look to put some work on that over the next day or so.
Oh, maybe add an accent kit? For those of us that don't own a hundred different DSA sets ;)
I just noticed the short shift key in the mods kit. That should be part of every keyset mod kit, instead of having to buy a whole extra kit for one key.
Love it! Personally would like to see a stand alone 40s kit but the kits are nice and simplistic :thumb:Thanks! I'm beginning to agree on a standalone 40s kit, I'll look to put some work on that over the next day or so.
Oh, maybe add an accent kit? For those of us that don't own a hundred different DSA sets ;)
Accents are also a consideration, my original design had a number of optional coloured accents as a kit, perhaps I should consider reviving that, to be honest my main driver for not is to keep the palette simplistic.
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Updated the set, most kits, added additional - Had some great feedback thus far, just wanted to say thanks all!
Chris
Hey Chris, great render and great set. This reminds me of XDA Canvas that I regretfully missed, so will be interested in this! :thumb:
Just wondering, any reason why the color scheme of Alchemist kit is not symmetrical (i.e. purple shifts, red capslock & red enter, blue tab & blue "\" , yellow "~" and yellow backspace)?
Hey Chris, great render and great set. This reminds me of XDA Canvas that I regretfully missed, so will be interested in this! :thumb:
Just wondering, any reason why the color scheme of Alchemist kit is not symmetrical (i.e. purple shifts, red capslock & red enter, blue tab & blue "\" , yellow "~" and yellow backspace)?
Hey! Honestly the novelty kit was intended as mix ins to be used on any sized board - rather than as modifiers on an ANSI 60 - the latter is simply a by product, the asymmetrical nature allows for more combinations of colour on any given board, the idea being that if you don't have the compat to use on of the keys, there's a good chance you'll have the compat for the second.
As an aside - I the latter up retroactively to justify the fact that asymmetry makes me happy. I honestly think it's visually more pleasing - however, feel free to disagree, that's after all why I'm doing an IC, is it just the visual that you'd question? I do very much want the kit to be as useful as possible (though I realise on standard ANSI will be able to make use of all the keys - but I imagine that's the most common layout regardless).
Hey Chris, great render and great set. This reminds me of XDA Canvas that I regretfully missed, so will be interested in this! :thumb:
Just wondering, any reason why the color scheme of Alchemist kit is not symmetrical (i.e. purple shifts, red capslock & red enter, blue tab & blue "\" , yellow "~" and yellow backspace)?
Hey! Honestly the novelty kit was intended as mix ins to be used on any sized board - rather than as modifiers on an ANSI 60 - the latter is simply a by product, the asymmetrical nature allows for more combinations of colour on any given board, the idea being that if you don't have the compat to use on of the keys, there's a good chance you'll have the compat for the second.
As an aside - I the latter up retroactively to justify the fact that asymmetry makes me happy. I honestly think it's visually more pleasing - however, feel free to disagree, that's after all why I'm doing an IC, is it just the visual that you'd question? I do very much want the kit to be as useful as possible (though I realise on standard ANSI will be able to make use of all the keys - but I imagine that's the most common layout regardless).
Well put, fair enough. I guess I just love the symmetry of things - for some of us, buying one set is all we can afford for some time. No offense meant, but really I was just thinking of having a decent set rather than a mix of several sets as most people seem to have.
Yeah mainly visual, and I actually like the previous mod icons a tad better, although the current one is not too bad either. Excited for the future iterations/changes if any!
Also, any estimation on pricing yet?
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Hey Chris, great render and great set. This reminds me of XDA Canvas that I regretfully missed, so will be interested in this! :thumb:
Just wondering, any reason why the color scheme of Alchemist kit is not symmetrical (i.e. purple shifts, red capslock & red enter, blue tab & blue "\" , yellow "~" and yellow backspace)?
Hey! Honestly the novelty kit was intended as mix ins to be used on any sized board - rather than as modifiers on an ANSI 60 - the latter is simply a by product, the asymmetrical nature allows for more combinations of colour on any given board, the idea being that if you don't have the compat to use on of the keys, there's a good chance you'll have the compat for the second.
As an aside - I the latter up retroactively to justify the fact that asymmetry makes me happy. I honestly think it's visually more pleasing - however, feel free to disagree, that's after all why I'm doing an IC, is it just the visual that you'd question? I do very much want the kit to be as useful as possible (though I realise on standard ANSI will be able to make use of all the keys - but I imagine that's the most common layout regardless).
Well put, fair enough. I guess I just love the symmetry of things - for some of us, buying one set is all we can afford for some time. No offense meant, but really I was just thinking of having a decent set rather than a mix of several sets as most people seem to have.
Yeah mainly visual, and I actually like the previous mod icons a tad better, although the current one is not too bad either. Excited for the future iterations/changes if any!
Also, any estimation on pricing yet?
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Absolutely agree on the single set - that's the intention so sorry If I wasn't clear. The novelties were designed in such a way that a buyer can pick the base kits they need and use the novelties to add the flavour that they want to the set in terms of colour - I wasn't meaning that it was designed for mixing with other sets, but that by using different configurations within Alchemy the user can tailor to personal taste.
I'll definitely keep iterating if the feedback keeps coming!
As to pricing... None as of yet - but that's the next on the list now that the kit design is stabilising to an extent. I'm an experienced consumer but... This is the other side of the fence. I'll update here as soon as I have more information there.
Thanks!
Hey Chris, great render and great set. This reminds me of XDA Canvas that I regretfully missed, so will be interested in this! :thumb:
Just wondering, any reason why the color scheme of Alchemist kit is not symmetrical (i.e. purple shifts, red capslock & red enter, blue tab & blue "\" , yellow "~" and yellow backspace)?
Hey! Honestly the novelty kit was intended as mix ins to be used on any sized board - rather than as modifiers on an ANSI 60 - the latter is simply a by product, the asymmetrical nature allows for more combinations of colour on any given board, the idea being that if you don't have the compat to use on of the keys, there's a good chance you'll have the compat for the second.
As an aside - I the latter up retroactively to justify the fact that asymmetry makes me happy. I honestly think it's visually more pleasing - however, feel free to disagree, that's after all why I'm doing an IC, is it just the visual that you'd question? I do very much want the kit to be as useful as possible (though I realise on standard ANSI will be able to make use of all the keys - but I imagine that's the most common layout regardless).
Well put, fair enough. I guess I just love the symmetry of things - for some of us, buying one set is all we can afford for some time. No offense meant, but really I was just thinking of having a decent set rather than a mix of several sets as most people seem to have.
Yeah mainly visual, and I actually like the previous mod icons a tad better, although the current one is not too bad either. Excited for the future iterations/changes if any!
Also, any estimation on pricing yet?
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Absolutely agree on the single set - that's the intention so sorry If I wasn't clear. The novelties were designed in such a way that a buyer can pick the base kits they need and use the novelties to add the flavour that they want to the set in terms of colour - I wasn't meaning that it was designed for mixing with other sets, but that by using different configurations within Alchemy the user can tailor to personal taste.
I'll definitely keep iterating if the feedback keeps coming!
As to pricing... None as of yet - but that's the next on the list now that the kit design is stabilising to an extent. I'm an experienced consumer but... This is the other side of the fence. I'll update here as soon as I have more information there.
Thanks!
Def makes sense on a single kit. Fully agree. Happy to see ISO support as well as thats a deal breaker for me. What are your timelines like?
Looking very nice Chris! Do you have any idea whatsoever what pricing or timelines we the interested customer might be looking at?With regards to timeline, I'm putting feelers out to vendors and manufacturers early next week (after this round of IC has time to bottom out). The intention as it stands is still signature plastics dye sub pbt so I'm not expecting a huge lead time on this. That being said I'm hesitant to quote a number.
Hell yes, these look sweet!Thanks!
Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:Thanks! NORDE is actually getting some good traction in the IC form, I'd expect that I'll get to adding it over the weekend, it's the most asked for addition after the last round of changes in fact.
Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:Thanks! NORDE is actually getting some good traction in the IC form, I'd expect that I'll get to adding it over the weekend, it's the most asked for addition after the last round of changes in fact.
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Pretty sure you're a mind reader. That's my second point to address as it stands, strangely enough only 5 requests to date iirc but it's a simple addition to an existing kit so happy to cover quickly.Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:Thanks! NORDE is actually getting some good traction in the IC form, I'd expect that I'll get to adding it over the weekend, it's the most asked for addition after the last round of changes in fact.
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Really happy to hear that! I'm totally down for this when it drops! :cool:
Just an observation though. I think the most common split spacebars are variants of 2.25u+1.25u+2.75u (e.g. PCBs such as the BananaSplit60 and DZ60), but, apart from 2.25u, I see no blank spacekeys in sizes 1.25u and 2.75u. If not both then, at the very least, maybe add a 2.75u spacekey to the spacebars kit?
Pretty sure you're a mind reader. That's my second point to address as it stands, strangely enough only 5 requests to date iirc but it's a simple addition to an existing kit so happy to cover quickly.Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:Thanks! NORDE is actually getting some good traction in the IC form, I'd expect that I'll get to adding it over the weekend, it's the most asked for addition after the last round of changes in fact.
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Really happy to hear that! I'm totally down for this when it drops! :cool:
Just an observation though. I think the most common split spacebars are variants of 2.25u+1.25u+2.75u (e.g. PCBs such as the BananaSplit60 and DZ60), but, apart from 2.25u, I see no blank spacekeys in sizes 1.25u and 2.75u. If not both then, at the very least, maybe add a 2.75u spacekey to the spacebars kit?
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It's definitely been an interesting challenge, thanks for the heads up on both!Pretty sure you're a mind reader. That's my second point to address as it stands, strangely enough only 5 requests to date iirc but it's a simple addition to an existing kit so happy to cover quickly.Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:Thanks! NORDE is actually getting some good traction in the IC form, I'd expect that I'll get to adding it over the weekend, it's the most asked for addition after the last round of changes in fact.
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Really happy to hear that! I'm totally down for this when it drops! :cool:
Just an observation though. I think the most common split spacebars are variants of 2.25u+1.25u+2.75u (e.g. PCBs such as the BananaSplit60 and DZ60), but, apart from 2.25u, I see no blank spacekeys in sizes 1.25u and 2.75u. If not both then, at the very least, maybe add a 2.75u spacekey to the spacebars kit?
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Sounds great! Funny. I thought there'd be more requests for that too, but maybe the split spacebars users will discover it once they see support is offered. :)
Sorry, no mind user here. I'm just working on another keyset and happen to be thinking about similar things right now. :D
This is really sleek. Reminds me of 'chocolate sublimation' dyesubs (beige w/ the maroon/brown legends).Yeah I'm still playing, one idea is to split the alternates into a dedicated 40s kit, and an alternate kit for larger boards (wkl bottom rows, 96key, split shift and space etc) and then break the spacebars kit across the two.
My biggest concern is that to fit my WKL TKL I would need 5 kits (if I counted correctly) :/
Lovely. I've been looking for something that works really well on a champagne case. Maybe this is it?I hope so! That certainly sounds like an excellent combination, what do you have in champagne out of curiosity?
Beautiful set! Instabuy when released!It's an interesting one for sure, I went mono default for the aesthetic, in the original poll I posed the question on default preference and keeping mono came out 75 to 25 on top. Originally I didn't offer secondary at all but in the latest poll of 312 alphas kits 100 or so have opted for the secondary legends kit.
The only real criticism I have at the moment is the secondary numerics being a separate set rather then the shift numbers being in the original set.
Looking forward to it!
Beautiful set! Instabuy when released!It's an interesting one for sure, I went mono default for the aesthetic, in the original poll I posed the question on default preference and keeping mono came out 75 to 25 on top. Originally I didn't offer secondary at all but in the latest poll of 312 alphas kits 100 or so have opted for the secondary legends kit.
The only real criticism I have at the moment is the secondary numerics being a separate set rather then the shift numbers being in the original set.
Looking forward to it!
To be honest I'm surprised. I expected to get immediately shouted down on the mono choice but.... I think the majority are with me from the numbers. Appreciate the feedback though, and I understand it's an unusual choice,, I just feel it matches the aesthetic to a tee.
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I'd only be interested in the Alchemist and Metallic kits. They would go great mixed up with some other alphas. Not interested in the full set though.I hadn't really considered it, but I guess they would yeah!
Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:
Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:
First pass at NORDE (obviously Mono for simplicity) - I think that's all the coverage needed. The mono choice is partly for key reduction, and partly due to the fact that it's the default in the alphas and only 30% of respondents have chosen the secondary legends kit so far. I could provide both a mono and a dual - but honestly I think that risks neither hitting an MOQ.
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Let me know any thoughts (and forgive the legend inconsistency - I'm not sure the correct characters to use for a couple - I'll figure that out!
Happy to hear it! Doing some research to make sure I haven't missed anything...Awesome keyset you got going here! Love the alchemy theme and that it's DSA profile for added support for alternate layouts. I'd very much like to see added NORDE support though. :thumb:
First pass at NORDE (obviously Mono for simplicity) - I think that's all the coverage needed. The mono choice is partly for key reduction, and partly due to the fact that it's the default in the alphas and only 30% of respondents have chosen the secondary legends kit so far. I could provide both a mono and a dual - but honestly I think that risks neither hitting an MOQ.
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Let me know any thoughts (and forgive the legend inconsistency - I'm not sure the correct characters to use for a couple - I'll figure that out!
That's actually a quite clever idea! I can totally see how the whole mono thing will work just aces with this keyset. :thumb:
If I haven't missed anything, there's proper support for the Nordic countries. Not too familiar with the German layout without double checking online.
So, what's going on with this set? It's one of the more attractive sets to me, and would love to see it go into production.
So, what's going on with this set? It's one of the more attractive sets to me, and would love to see it go into production.
Hey! Thanks for the interest and apologies that I've gone quiet over the last few weeks, life has been a little hectic. I was going to do a big reveal at some unplanned date on this but, seeing as you asked.
I was in touch with SP throughout the course of the interest check and they have decided that they will be producing and stocking the set via PMK! As such set design is now finalised (barring any issues that arise). The set will be produced in PBT DSA dye-sub as was always the intention and tentatively you can expect it to hit the store late summer. It's in the production queue as we speak.
I'll be returning to this as time allows in the meantime but only do drum up some further interest and aid in the production process as need arises, updates on timing will certainly follow however.
Chris
Hey, great news! Congrats, man! :)
Have there been any changes to the kits during the process with PMK that aren't updated here yet?
Hey, great news! Congrats, man! :)
Have there been any changes to the kits during the process with PMK that aren't updated here yet?
Hey, thanks! I was in touch with SP pretty early doors within the IC process in an attempt to mitigate that risk (mainly with regards to legend feasibility and colouring) - as it stands successfully. To date there are no additional changes not represented above, obviously if that changes I'll keep the thread updated but, fingers crossed!
I really hate being late, but I miss this kit.
P.S: Sorry for the ****ty edition.
Hey Chris, can’t wait for this set to come out!
I’m looking at the ortho set and wondering how you’re going to deal with the raise and lower keys. As you can see, the “lower” key text overflows. Will you be doing LWR and RSE for these keys?
Any updates on ETA?
The kits are at this point agreed. However, I can try. There's no MOQ per se given its going stocked but it's possible pmk won't want to stock a kit that's likely to have limited uptake.I really hate being late, but I miss this kit.
P.S: Sorry for the ****ty edition.
At least the blue alchemy ISO Enter key. Damn. Would've wanted that. Any chance of it making its way back into the keyset? Is it feasable?
You're absolutely right, and lwr rse is the way forward, though I'd love to not have to to be frank. I'm not a fan of shortened legends bit with ortho...
I'll update the kit actually to reflect that, good shout, I'd made that call a while back.
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The kits are at this point agreed. However, I can try. There's no MOQ per se given its going stocked but it's possible pmk won't want to stock a kit that's likely to have limited uptake.I really hate being late, but I miss this kit.
P.S: Sorry for the ****ty edition.
At least the blue alchemy ISO Enter key. Damn. Would've wanted that. Any chance of it making its way back into the keyset? Is it feasable?
That being said. I'm not pmk and I can't speak for them so I can but ask.
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The kits are at this point agreed. However, I can try. There's no MOQ per se given its going stocked but it's possible pmk won't want to stock a kit that's likely to have limited uptake.I really hate being late, but I miss this kit.
P.S: Sorry for the ****ty edition.
At least the blue alchemy ISO Enter key. Damn. Would've wanted that. Any chance of it making its way back into the keyset? Is it feasable?
That being said. I'm not pmk and I can't speak for them so I can but ask.
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With the rumors of geekhack being sold to a Chinese company, where will be the updates of the set from now on?If the rumours prove true then I'll likely move my Comms to Reddit in the short term, however you can expect there to be only two updates at this point, my confirmation of the date of go live and then the confirmation of it being listed on Pmk.
With the rumors of geekhack being sold to a Chinese company, where will be the updates of the set from now on?If the rumours prove true then I'll likely move my Comms to Reddit in the short term, however you can expect there to be only two updates at this point, my confirmation of the date of go live and then the confirmation of it being listed on Pmk.
Both of those updates I'll also send out via email to anyone that's filled in the IC form with an email address (feel free to ping me to be added to that list) and the latter you would also receive if you're on pmk's mailing list!
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Now live on PMK! https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-alchemy-keyset/