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Title: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 05 March 2018, 08:12:19
This set has grown so much, thanks to all of your feedback. I have updated the OP a bit. here we go.

This is basically a dream of mine, when we can use GMK's cheapo as hell G80-1800 set with most of modern layout. with the community feedback, the philosophy of the creation of this set has changed. the philosophy is to;

and new feature is;


the chance of this will happen is small (i am aware of this) but it's better to die trying would be better than to die without purpose. so be it.

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I want to see the set!
(https://i.imgur.com/A3lZ43M.png)

Supported kit:

-Standard R4 104 set (normal caps lock, 1.25u mods, 6.25u spacebar, numpad adapter for standard numpad kit)
- Tsangan R5 ( R5 1.5u and R5 1u) With Arrow
- HHKB (R2 Backspace, R1 backslash) ( i still need 1u Fn but whatever)
- stepped control and normal control
- ISO XT
- 65% and 75% Compatibility

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When and How much?
i'm gonna get serious on this after Sanctuary rebirth run ends. the pricing are yet to be submitted to GMK. but maybe US$40-50ish. WE REALLY NEED TO DELETE SOME KEY  :)) done.


meanwhile, feel free to comment what key would you like to add to the set, and what should be deleted.  :))



I need as much publicity as possible. DT guys might like this, I suppose.

here's the IC form;
here (https://goo.gl/forms/7A4gSAL9k1AiCAWB3)
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 05:58:43
Definitely a good idea if you can get enough interest  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: autobot on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:57:10
I'd totally be down for this.

I would change Strg to Control though. Or include 1.25u Control keycaps.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: nzhoward on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:50:59
Just rerun gmk HADitional and HADaptor

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 06 March 2018, 09:59:15
Oh wow, it seems that there's an bit of interest om this one.  :eek:

Yeah, i guess i'll change the strg to control instead.

Umm and running another hadapter is boring. That's why i added a bit of novelty in this set hahahaha.

And i was also thinking that if hammer'd bsp set really runs, maybe i can simplify this set to support 1800 and original 104 key instead of adding a 1.5u modifier and running it in pbt....
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: autobot on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:44:43
GMK please  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: nzhoward on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:04:40
I thought about how this should have compatibility for OG WKL Dyesubs and Doubleshot with R5 bottom rows. Thus we would need to add R4 bottom row arrow keys. Also the 65% and 75% kits should have legends. I mocked it up in keyboard-layout-editor below. Here is the permalink if anyone else wants to contribute. Permalink (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_a:6%3B&=R1&_x:21.75%3B&=-%3B&@=R2&_x:13.75&w:1.5%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.25%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn&_x:3.25&h:2%3B&=+%3B&@=R3&_x:0.25&w:1.5%3B&=Capslock&_x:11.25&w:2.25%3B&=Trap!%3B&@=R4&_x:12.5&w:2.75%3B&=Shift%3B&@=R4&_x:0.25&w:1.25%3B&=Control&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_a:6&w:1.25%3B&=Alt%20Gr&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Control&_x:0.25&a:4%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns%3B&@_a:6%3B&=R1&_x:13.25&a:4%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_a:6%3B&=Novelty&_x:0.25%3B&=Home%3B&@=R2&_x:0.25&w2:1.5%3B&=Control&_x:0.5&w2:1.5&l:true%3B&=Control&_x:12.75%3B&=PgUp%3B&@=R3&_x:15.5%3B&=PgDn%3B&@=R4&_x:12.5&w:1.75%3B&=Shift&=Fn&_x:0.25%3B&=End%3B&@=R4&_x:0.25&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Code&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_a:7&w:7%3B&=&_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Alt&=Code&_w:1.5%3B&=Control)

Edit: if there are too many keys and we need to take out some I'd say the numpad kit should go first not many people use fullsize these days

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:33:54
whatever the implementation is, i'll probably pick up a kit just in case
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: ideus on Tue, 06 March 2018, 16:21:29
Excellent idea and I am in. Just keep it simple and cheap. If it grows and get expensive it will fail, surely.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 07 March 2018, 00:53:28
I told you my thoughts on Discord, but here they are again in an organized fashion:

- Consider widening the applications to these beyond those who have an 1800, or buy an 1800. For example, 3000's and other various model numbers have doubleshots, and I'm sure those who buy them would wanna have cross-compatibility.

- Consider that a lot of 1800's can be used with a 3x1u - 6u - 4x1u bottom row. Not super common as far as use goes, but it's something worth considering.

- (A specific scenario) if someone buys doubleshots from say, a G80-3000, and they want to use them on an 1800, they'd need the R1 Delete, End, and PgDn keys.

- Some boards (those with a trackpad, maybe others?) have a 2u right shift.

- Any thoughts about R5 support? I know GMK only has molds for 1.5u and the spacebars, but it'd be interesting to see.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 07 March 2018, 04:13:29
- Any thoughts about R5 support? I know GMK only has molds for 1.5u and the spacebars, but it'd be interesting to see.
GMK also has R5 1u and spacebars have a profile of their own, they don't change between R4 and R5.
That said, if there's R5 support I'm totally in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 March 2018, 05:03:53
oh Hiney and Howard, that's a lot of input. thank you so much!

but yeah, it seems that R5 support is kind of cute. i'm curious because i haven't tried R5 all my life. shall we try it with 7u R5 space bar and R5 1.5u modifier then?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: yasintahir on Wed, 07 March 2018, 05:42:26
Split spacebar?

But honestly i want GMK make small spacebar with convex version.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 07 March 2018, 05:43:10
shall we try it with 7u R5 space bar?
As stated, there's no such thing as a R5 spacebar. Spacebars are one profile alone.
1.5u R5 mods with 1u R5 winkeys would be great though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 March 2018, 05:45:07
Would love to see R5 support.

Please run an Enter key if you really keep the Trap key :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: punkpc on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:15:29
I was messing around with your layout idea. I left your original alone and just started my own in keyboard layout. Kept what you had so far, but updated colors & cleaned it up a bit. I did add the regular Enter key, a 1.25 "Fn" key, the "GMK" key, and the ". Del" key to complete the bottom R4 row.

This is what I have so far.

keyboard-layout-editor
[attach=1]

kle-render
[attach=2]

What do you think?


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: nzhoward on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:21:05
We wouldn't need an enter key because all og 1800 and 3000 keysets have the same enter as modern keysets. If we want to keep keycount low, we should take out the trap altogether

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:58:39
Split spacebar?

But honestly i want GMK make small spacebar with convex version.
split space bar is actually feasible.. but i don't want to make this set more expensive than it is.

9009 split spacebar accent anyone?

shall we try it with 7u R5 space bar?
As stated, there's no such thing as a R5 spacebar. Spacebars are one profile alone.
1.5u R5 mods with 1u R5 winkeys would be great though.

ah sorry, didn't read it too much as i was typing that message at work  :p
yes, with R5 arrow. very interesting.

Would love to see R5 support.

Please run an Enter key if you really keep the Trap key :rolleyes:
R5 is interesting. i'll try to run it.
LOL. you already got the usual enter for the OG set, the trap key is just for fun  :))

I was messing around with your layout idea. I left your original alone and just started my own in keyboard layout. Kept what you had so far, but updated colors & cleaned it up a bit. I did add the regular Enter key, a 1.25 "Fn" key, the "GMK" key, and the ". Del" key to complete the bottom R4 row.

This is what I have so far.

keyboard-layout-editor
(Attachment Link)

kle-render
(Attachment Link)

What do you think?



this is very interesting. thank you for your effort! it's already good, but i'll modify it a bit later for R5 support, if you don't mind.

We wouldn't need an enter key because all og 1800 and 3000 keysets have the same enter as modern keysets. If we want to keep keycount low, we should take out the trap altogether

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another enter key wouldn't be needed. for now, i don't think that i should take out the trap key as there's few people that message me personally that they will buy the set just for the sake of the trap key  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: nzhoward on Wed, 07 March 2018, 08:24:11
I modified my design to support R5. Also deleted an unnecessary key in the 75%/65% adapter kit. Newest KLE Link (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_a:6%3B&=R1&_x:21.75%3B&=-%3B&@=R2&_x:13.75&w:1.5%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.25%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn&_x:3.25&h:2%3B&=+%3B&@=R3&_x:0.25&w:1.5%3B&=Capslock&_x:11.25&w:2.25%3B&=Trap!%3B&@=R4&_x:12.5&w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:6.5&h:2%3B&=Enter%3B&@=R4&_x:0.25&w:1.25%3B&=Control&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_a:6&w:1.25%3B&=Alt%20Gr&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Control&_x:0.25&a:4%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_x:0.25&w:2%3B&=0%0AIns&=.%0ADel%3B&@_a:6%3B&=R1&_x:13.25&a:4%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_a:6%3B&=Novelty%3B&@=R2&_x:15.5%3B&=PgUp%3B&@=R3&_x:0.25&w2:1.5%3B&=Control&_x:0.5&w2:1.5&l:true%3B&=Control&_x:12.75%3B&=PgDn%3B&@=R4&_x:12.5&w:1.75%3B&=Shift&=Fn&_x:0.25%3B&=End%3B&@=R4&_x:0.25&w:1.5%3B&=Control&=Code&_w:1.5%3B&=Alt&_a:7&w:7%3B&=&_a:6&w:1.5%3B&=Alt%20Gr&=Code&_w:1.5%3B&=Control%3B&@=R5&_x:1.75%3B&=Code&_x:10%3B&=Code)

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:22:32
thanks for all of your feedback, this set has grown so much.
let's start from here (my pic) and decides which key has to go.  :))

(https://i.imgur.com/5VIxEpp.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: nzhoward on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:36:30
thanks for all of your feedback, this set has grown so much.
let's start from here (my pic) and decides which key has to go.  :))

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5VIxEpp.png)


good idea!
1. You got the 75%/65% wrong. Should have R4 end instead of R1 home
2. We don't need R1 Delete, End, PgDn since these keys are R1 on OG 1800 boards already
3. What is the point of the R4 to 1800 row?
4. We should add R4 code/win keys for OG 1800 with R4 WKL bottom row.
5. We can take out 1.5u alt/ctrl since OG 1800 and OG 3000 boards will all come with these keys. We just need the R4 and R5 code/win keys. If your OG board has R4 bottom row, use the R4 win keys. If your OG board has R5 bottom row, use the R5 win keys.
6. We only need R4 arrow keys for those who have OG R5 bottom row but want to use 1.25u mods. R5 arrow keys are not necessary.


Personally I think we should support this layout for 1800 since that's the layout that has doubleshot keys:
[attachimg=1]
I don't think this layout is too popular so we could take out these keys:
[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:50:55
thanks for all of your feedback, this set has grown so much.
let's start from here (my pic) and decides which key has to go.  :))

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5VIxEpp.png)


good idea!
1. You got the 75%/65% wrong. Should have R4 end instead of R1 home
2. We don't need R1 Delete, End, PgDn since these keys are R1 on OG 1800 boards already
3. What is the point of the R4 to 1800 row?
4. We should add R4 code/win keys for OG 1800 with R4 WKL bottom row.
5. We can take out 1.5u alt/ctrl since OG 1800 and OG 3000 boards will all come with these keys. We just need the R4 and R5 code/win keys. If your OG board has R4 bottom row, use the R4 win keys. If your OG board has R5 bottom row, use the R5 win keys.
6. We only need R4 arrow keys for those who have OG R5 bottom row but want to use 1.25u mods. R5 arrow keys are not necessary.

Thanks for the detailed comments! i'll try to answer that one by one.
1. oops, my bad. i've corrected my sketch but yet to upload at here. it's too late now, maybe tomorrow lol.
2. My basis for including those keys are for OG 3000 users that want to place their keys on 1800, hence they will need those keys.
3. same as no 2, for OG 3000 users that want to place their keys on 1800, hence they will need those keys.
4. could you elaborate more on this? i didn't catch your phrase lol, sorry.
5. I Include those keys because maybe there are some people who haven't tried R5 yet (but have OG1800/OG3000 R4 already) so they can swap their R4 keys for R5.
6. same as no. 5.

though that i'm thinking a bit far, but i feel that the market for reason number 2 and 3 are.. small. i'll see if there's actually any interest in this or not, if not, then i'll follow your suggestion on no. 2 and 3.

thanks again for the critics and comments!



oh damn you're actually uploading the picture lololol. you know what i mean then.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: nzhoward on Wed, 07 March 2018, 10:01:20
thanks for all of your feedback, this set has grown so much.
let's start from here (my pic) and decides which key has to go.  :))

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5VIxEpp.png)


good idea!
1. You got the 75%/65% wrong. Should have R4 end instead of R1 home
2. We don't need R1 Delete, End, PgDn since these keys are R1 on OG 1800 boards already
3. What is the point of the R4 to 1800 row?
4. We should add R4 code/win keys for OG 1800 with R4 WKL bottom row.
5. We can take out 1.5u alt/ctrl since OG 1800 and OG 3000 boards will all come with these keys. We just need the R4 and R5 code/win keys. If your OG board has R4 bottom row, use the R4 win keys. If your OG board has R5 bottom row, use the R5 win keys.
6. We only need R4 arrow keys for those who have OG R5 bottom row but want to use 1.25u mods. R5 arrow keys are not necessary.

Thanks for the detailed comments! i'll try to answer that one by one.
1. oops, my bad. i've corrected my sketch but yet to upload at here. it's too late now, maybe tomorrow lol.
2. My basis for including those keys are for OG 3000 users that want to place their keys on 1800, hence they will need those keys.
3. same as no 2, for OG 3000 users that want to place their keys on 1800, hence they will need those keys.
4. could you elaborate more on this? i didn't catch your phrase lol, sorry.
5. I Include those keys because maybe there are some people who haven't tried R5 yet (but have OG1800/OG3000 R4 already) so they can swap their R4 keys for R5.
6. same as no. 5.

though that i'm thinking a bit far, but i feel that the market for reason number 2 and 3 are.. small. i'll see if there's actually any interest in this or not, if not, then i'll follow your suggestion on no. 2 and 3.

thanks again for the critics and comments!



oh damn you're actually uploading the picture lololol. you know what i mean then.

For 4. I just mean for those who have R4 1.5u OG 1800 mods, they would need an R4 1u win/code key
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 March 2018, 10:43:15
thanks for all of your feedback, this set has grown so much.
let's start from here (my pic) and decides which key has to go.  :))

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5VIxEpp.png)


good idea!
1. You got the 75%/65% wrong. Should have R4 end instead of R1 home
2. We don't need R1 Delete, End, PgDn since these keys are R1 on OG 1800 boards already
3. What is the point of the R4 to 1800 row?
4. We should add R4 code/win keys for OG 1800 with R4 WKL bottom row.
5. We can take out 1.5u alt/ctrl since OG 1800 and OG 3000 boards will all come with these keys. We just need the R4 and R5 code/win keys. If your OG board has R4 bottom row, use the R4 win keys. If your OG board has R5 bottom row, use the R5 win keys.
6. We only need R4 arrow keys for those who have OG R5 bottom row but want to use 1.25u mods. R5 arrow keys are not necessary.

Thanks for the detailed comments! i'll try to answer that one by one.
1. oops, my bad. i've corrected my sketch but yet to upload at here. it's too late now, maybe tomorrow lol.
2. My basis for including those keys are for OG 3000 users that want to place their keys on 1800, hence they will need those keys.
3. same as no 2, for OG 3000 users that want to place their keys on 1800, hence they will need those keys.
4. could you elaborate more on this? i didn't catch your phrase lol, sorry.
5. I Include those keys because maybe there are some people who haven't tried R5 yet (but have OG1800/OG3000 R4 already) so they can swap their R4 keys for R5.
6. same as no. 5.

though that i'm thinking a bit far, but i feel that the market for reason number 2 and 3 are.. small. i'll see if there's actually any interest in this or not, if not, then i'll follow your suggestion on no. 2 and 3.

thanks again for the critics and comments!



oh damn you're actually uploading the picture lololol. you know what i mean then.

For 4. I just mean for those who have R4 1.5u OG 1800 mods, they would need an R4 1u win/code key
Ahhh i see. Yes i'll make one more set of that black diamon on r4.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Retro Beige Fix Kit for OG Cherry G80-1800 Kit
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 07 March 2018, 12:38:19
We wouldn't need an enter key because all og 1800 and 3000 keysets have the same enter as modern keysets. If we want to keep keycount low, we should take out the trap altogether

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Disagree, I've bought both iso and ansi boards and I'd like to switch some of the iso ones over.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: nzhoward on Wed, 07 March 2018, 12:49:28
We wouldn't need an enter key because all og 1800 and 3000 keysets have the same enter as modern keysets. If we want to keep keycount low, we should take out the trap altogether

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Disagree, I've bought both iso and ansi boards and I'd like to switch some of the iso ones over.
You would need more than just the ANSI enter if your og set is ISO tho

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:29:11
In for the R5.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:12:04
In for R5 (AKA A-Profile); but, what legend is going to be used for Profile A 1u. Windows? Code? Dot? Diamond?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: nzhoward on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:13:35
In for R5 (AKA A-Profile); but, what legend is going to be used for Profile A 1u. Windows? Code? Dot? Diamond?
I would prefer Code

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:59:36
In for R5 (AKA A-Profile); but, what legend is going to be used for Profile A 1u. Windows? Code? Dot? Diamond?

diamond pls
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 07 March 2018, 16:34:52
Code or diamond
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 March 2018, 19:40:41
we'll gonna need a vote to decide that.

alright.,Also, I'm going to see if deleting that G80-11900 bottom row and converting it to ISO-to-ANSI kit makes some value added or not.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: nzhoward on Wed, 07 March 2018, 19:42:47
we'll gonna need a vote to decide that.

alright.,Also, I'm going to see if deleting that G80-11900 bottom row and converting it to ISO-to-ANSI kit makes some value added or not.
Yea. Taking out 11900 is a good idea. We can also have a vote or IC form to see the demand for iso

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: autobot on Wed, 07 March 2018, 20:02:29
Code or diamond

Code!  :D
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 March 2018, 22:17:19
IC forms are up.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Rayndalf on Wed, 07 March 2018, 23:19:29
The stepped control key should use the abbreviated 'Ctrl' so it can fit all sexy like

Edit: Just took a better look at the newest render and it appears this is already the case. Given the sudden bounty of 1800 pcbs, this should be pretty popular with people using winkeyed 1800 keysets winkeyless
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 March 2018, 13:29:53
The stepped control key should use the abbreviated 'Ctrl' so it can fit all sexy like

Edit: Just took a better look at the newest render and it appears this is already the case. Given the sudden bounty of 1800 pcbs, this should be pretty popular with people using winkeyed 1800 keysets winkeyless


This stepped control key would be a first, if I am not missing something, it has not been offered previously in the classic beige color. If someone has any recollection on it, please correct me, otherwise it would be a great detail to make this set a very special one, that no serious keyboard aficinado could afford to let it passing.


I have not mentioned the ISO compatibility keys in the IC form, because I have enough of them already, however, it would be great if a C-Profile acute accent and tilde key is included along an ISO key. Those keys make any ANSI set to be XT compatible, which is a great way to use an ANSI set along with an ISO enter key.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 08 March 2018, 13:57:49
This stepped control key [...] no serious keyboard aficinado could afford to let it passing.
This gentleman couldn't have nailed it any better. I agree with my whole heart.

Regarding ISO compatibility, one thing that would be give a big plus to this set is a profile-B angled brackets key in U9 for symmetry with the left shift.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: hansichen on Thu, 08 March 2018, 15:37:48
The stepped control key should use the abbreviated 'Ctrl' so it can fit all sexy like

Edit: Just took a better look at the newest render and it appears this is already the case. Given the sudden bounty of 1800 pcbs, this should be pretty popular with people using winkeyed 1800 keysets winkeyless


This stepped control key would be a first, if I am not missing something, it has not been offered previously in the classic beige color. If someone has any recollection on it, please correct me, otherwise it would be a great detail to make this set a very special one, that no serious keyboard aficinado could afford to let it passing.


I have not mentioned the ISO compatibility keys in the IC form, because I have enough of them already, however, it would be great if a C-Profile acute accent and tilde key is included along an ISO key. Those keys make any ANSI set to be XT compatible, which is a great way to use an ANSI set along with an ISO enter key.

GMK 9009 had a stepped ctrl key
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:12:50
The stepped control key should use the abbreviated 'Ctrl' so it can fit all sexy like

Edit: Just took a better look at the newest render and it appears this is already the case. Given the sudden bounty of 1800 pcbs, this should be pretty popular with people using winkeyed 1800 keysets winkeyless


This stepped control key would be a first, if I am not missing something, it has not been offered previously in the classic beige color. If someone has any recollection on it, please correct me, otherwise it would be a great detail to make this set a very special one, that no serious keyboard aficinado could afford to let it passing.


I have not mentioned the ISO compatibility keys in the IC form, because I have enough of them already, however, it would be great if a C-Profile acute accent and tilde key is included along an ISO key. Those keys make any ANSI set to be XT compatible, which is a great way to use an ANSI set along with an ISO enter key.

GMK 9009 had a stepped ctrl key


Alright, it would not be a first, but the opportunity to get one for those that did not join the 9009.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:23:11
I'm on a little side-business-trip right now. i'll make some adjustment tonight, thank you for the great support!

and unfortunately, i don't know things about ISO. so some guidance would be appreciated.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Rayndalf on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:19:35
I feel like a little extra punctuation would make the 'Trap!' key a thing to behold. I'm not an expert by any means, but 'Trap!?' with both an exclamation point and a question mark would really convey the confusion and awe one might feel in the moment they realize its weapon systems are fully operational.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 10 March 2018, 04:21:18
!
I feel like a little extra punctuation would make the 'Trap!' key a thing to behold. I'm not an expert by any means, but 'Trap!?' with both an exclamation point and a question mark would really convey the confusion and awe one might feel in the moment they realize its weapon systems are fully operational.

this is cute! i'll try to make a illustration of it later lol
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:42:00
might consider adding 2.25u shift so that this also functions as a HADapter or an ISO->ANSI adapter for OG sets

might also consider a 7u but that's not as important
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:11:33
alright bois, here we go:

I removed 11900 set and changed it to:
a. Adding one pair of code key for R5 tsangan kit
b. Adding one set of ISO that support XT (Ideus' idea)
c. Adding one 2.25u Shift key for complete HADApter Support
d. adding a cuter trap enter (lol)

which i think has more value added than before. i guess this set is complete. i'll try to contact GMK for a quote this week if my schedule allows me to.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: nzhoward on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:23:57
alright bois, here we go:

I removed 11900 set and changed it to:
a. Adding one pair of code key for R5 tsangan kit
b. Adding one set of ISO that support XT (Ideus' idea)
c. Adding one 2.25u Shift key for complete HADApter Support
d. adding a cuter trap enter (lol)

which i think has more value added than before. i guess this set is complete. i'll try to contact GMK for a quote this week if my schedule allows me to.

Nice changes! One set of those code/diamond keys should be R4 though. There are OG WKL sets that have R4 ctrl/alt and would be missing winkeys in the right profile.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:59:08
alright bois, here we go:

I removed 11900 set and changed it to:
a. Adding one pair of code key for R5 tsangan kit
b. Adding one set of ISO that support XT (Ideus' idea)
c. Adding one 2.25u Shift key for complete HADApter Support
d. adding a cuter trap enter (lol)

which i think has more value added than before. i guess this set is complete. i'll try to contact GMK for a quote this week if my schedule allows me to.


Shut up and take my monies!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Fri, 16 March 2018, 21:14:53
hiya. so i got a quote from GMK yesterday, but i think the price is a bit too high for us to afford (about 80usd something).
we really need to reduce some keys :))
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 17 March 2018, 00:58:25
hiya. so i got a quote from GMK yesterday, but i think the price is a bit too high for us to afford (about 80usd something).
we really need to reduce some keys :))

80 USD? They're condemned.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 17 March 2018, 01:04:14
hiya. so i got a quote from GMK yesterday, but i think the price is a bit too high for us to afford (about 80usd something).
we really need to reduce some keys :))

80 USD? They're condemned.

USD <-> EUR has been tanking for the last few months

red riot was 120 and over the course of a week it went up to 135

EUR price exactly the same

cut r5, ISO, and the r3 control keys and that should lower the price a fair bit

if you're still doing that novelty enter cut that too
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 17 March 2018, 06:37:18
uhhh yeah. i'll try to cut some key :(

i guess control can go. R5 also actually can go, but there's some ppl that solely interested in this set only for R5.
that arrow also can go.. and that R1 delete, end, and page down.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 17 March 2018, 06:53:16
I personally believe the price of the set could be easily reduces if we focus on the original idea: 3000 - 1800 conversion rather than ISO - ANSI conversion plus bonus keys.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 05 May 2018, 22:23:23
:thinking:

(https://i.imgur.com/A3lZ43M.png)

i have reduced for some key. as for now sanc. rebirth is kind of delayed cos of vendor problem, so i think i'll post a little update on this.

might scrap this version and make white on black version of it.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Sat, 05 May 2018, 23:00:33
The beige version is great, if you go the white on black, I may take it as well, but I am more interested in the beige one.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Elth on Sat, 05 May 2018, 23:13:58
Might be interested in the WoB version depending on what keys are available.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: zumu on Sat, 05 May 2018, 23:22:36
For the 1.5u backspace, you should use the arrow legend (ala 9009 R2) instead. I'm pretty sure it's much more popular.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 06 May 2018, 02:29:33
For the 1.5u backspace, you should use the arrow legend (ala 9009 R2) instead. I'm pretty sure it's much more popular.
+1

Too bad the U9 ISO key was dropped, I've been looking for that for ages.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 06 May 2018, 22:35:26
Might be interested in the WoB version depending on what keys are available.

probably will be the same. i'll be focusing in turning the weird wob set (with 6u spacebar) to something more usable.

For the 1.5u backspace, you should use the arrow legend (ala 9009 R2) instead. I'm pretty sure it's much more popular.
+1

Too bad the U9 ISO key was dropped, I've been looking for that for ages.

hmm, can do.


The beige version is great, if you go the white on black, I may take it as well, but I am more interested in the beige one.

i might make both, if there' enough interest.

tho that deskthority is much better than gh for something like this  :))
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Elth on Sun, 06 May 2018, 22:38:56
Might be interested in the WoB version depending on what keys are available.

probably will be the same. i'll be focusing in turning the weird wob set (with 6u spacebar) to something more usable.

For the 1.5u backspace, you should use the arrow legend (ala 9009 R2) instead. I'm pretty sure it's much more popular.
+1

Too bad the U9 ISO key was dropped, I've been looking for that for ages.

hmm, can do.


The beige version is great, if you go the white on black, I may take it as well, but I am more interested in the beige one.

i might make both, if there' enough interest.

tho that deskthority is much better than gh for something like this  :))


Also watching the one on DT so we’ll see where that one goes.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 06 May 2018, 22:39:03
i'd buy both colors
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Elth on Sat, 26 May 2018, 22:38:45
Looks like the WoB set on DT is at a halt. Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 05 June 2018, 02:37:13
i want to focus on sanctuary rebirth first. this will come later but i'm thinking of running both WOB and Beige.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 05 June 2018, 05:06:51
Hello, what's the point of having two identical keycaps in ISO? I mean the |/ key. The color should be the same of the alphas too.
Not a big fan of the "diamond" or "win" legend... Maybe someone has better ideas?
I suppose that the price will be about 40 eur.

edit: Now I see that you've already fixed some points.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 05 June 2018, 16:43:39
This will be the same colors as GMK Classic Retro, right? If so I would be in for this (since Classic Retro only has WKL R5).
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 June 2018, 23:11:02
I just hope that the OP is still on this, it may revamp most OG sets as well as new retro and 9009 ones with a few keys that the sets did not include originally.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: mrkevint on Wed, 06 June 2018, 01:02:34
I completed the IC form!

I'm interested in this set for the 1800 keys. I'm missing those ones in my collection :).

EDIT: Just saw the latest layout lol.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 06 June 2018, 03:21:06
This will be the same colors as GMK Classic Retro, right? If so I would be in for this (since Classic Retro only has WKL R5).

yes.

I just hope that the OP is still on this, it may revamp most OG sets as well as new retro and 9009 ones with a few keys that the sets did not include originally.
yeah, still on my logbook but i want to focus on my other project first.

Hello, what's the point of having two identical keycaps in ISO? I mean the |/ key. The color should be the same of the alphas too.
Not a big fan of the "diamond" or "win" legend... Maybe someone has better ideas?
I suppose that the price will be about 40 eur.

edit: Now I see that you've already fixed some points.
i am aware and i already edited the layout.
there might be another revision but for now.. it's enough.

I completed the IC form!

I'm interested in this set for the 1800 keys. I'm missing those ones in my collection :).

EDIT: Just saw the latest layout lol.

i'm sorry lol

Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Mon, 13 January 2020, 15:40:39
Necro question: Is this still on the log?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: long_qt_pie on Mon, 13 January 2020, 19:53:03
Necro question: Is this still on the log?

GMK missing keys ran end of last year, slight difference but similar enough that probably saturated
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: ideus on Tue, 14 January 2020, 07:44:04
Necro question: Is this still on the log?

GMK missing keys ran end of last year, slight difference but similar enough that probably saturated

You are right. But beige is so wanted that probably there is still some room for this. Just asking to see if the OP is still around.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Retroact - Classic Beige Fix Kit made for G80-3000&G80-1800+R5 Support
Post by: heavyheaded on Tue, 14 January 2020, 09:57:03
7U spacebar and I'm definitely in. 1800s come with a 6U these days so it seems pointless to have the R5 mods w/o one.