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Title: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: chyros on Tue, 06 March 2018, 01:50:52
Today we have a look at the BIG switches by Novelkeys. Hope you enjoy! :)

Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: roosta on Tue, 06 March 2018, 06:14:18
Dang, I knew they were big switches but I never realized how huge they were until they were in-hand. It could make for a decent nuclear launch button ;D
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 06 March 2018, 06:21:41
Great review as always, not so sure about the switch though - I don't need a nuclear launch button!

Then again, could be used as a PC power switch?  Looks tough enough to survive a rage quit :))
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:05:57
How many Amps are these rated for ?

(https://i.imgur.com/UzALKpm.gif)

Does it say on the Box??
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: Techno Trousers on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:48:38
Those things are just ridonkulous.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:02:34
I'm looking forward to mine showing up.  It will probably be the first switch I actually get to solder since the rest of my orders are backed up.  I'll be pairing it with the PCB and case from woodkeys.click.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: woodkeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:22:31
I love these things. They get the same reaction from everyone, just like my 9-year-old son, pure joy and excitement: "That's so big!".

Quote from: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:02:34
I'll be pairing it with the PCB and case from woodkeys.click.
Did you get in the most recent buy or the limited first round? The first round just shipped.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:47:48
Quote from: woodkeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:22:31
I love these things. They get the same reaction from everyone, just like my 9-year-old son, pure joy and excitement: "That's so big!".

Quote from: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:02:34
I'll be pairing it with the PCB and case from woodkeys.click.
Did you get in the most recent buy or the limited first round? The first round just shipped.
I got in on Feb. 16th, so I'm sure I'm pretty far down on the list.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: woodkeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:48:56
Quote from: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:47:48
Quote from: woodkeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:22:31
I love these things. They get the same reaction from everyone, just like my 9-year-old son, pure joy and excitement: "That's so big!".

Quote from: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:02:34
I'll be pairing it with the PCB and case from woodkeys.click.
Did you get in the most recent buy or the limited first round? The first round just shipped.
I got in on Feb. 16th, so I'm sure I'm pretty far down on the list.

Ok, that batch will be shipping toward the end of March.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: mgsickler on Tue, 06 March 2018, 14:22:45
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:05:57
How many Amps are these rated for ?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UzALKpm.gif)


Does it say on the Box??

I actually just finished uploading most of my spec sheets of switches, including the Big Switch Series. You can find the spec sheets at the bottom of the page - https://novelkeys.xyz/products/the-big-switch-series (https://novelkeys.xyz/products/the-big-switch-series)
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:55:44
Quote from: mgsickler on Tue, 06 March 2018, 14:22:45
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:05:57
How many Amps are these rated for ?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UzALKpm.gif)


Does it say on the Box??

I actually just finished uploading most of my spec sheets of switches, including the Big Switch Series. You can find the spec sheets at the bottom of the page - https://novelkeys.xyz/products/the-big-switch-series (https://novelkeys.xyz/products/the-big-switch-series)

Hrrrm..

It says 10mA..

With copper that big, it can definitely handle more..

I guess they didn't bother to test it since it's a novelty toy..
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:41:06
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:55:44
Quote from: mgsickler on Tue, 06 March 2018, 14:22:45
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:05:57
How many Amps are these rated for ?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UzALKpm.gif)


Does it say on the Box??

I actually just finished uploading most of my spec sheets of switches, including the Big Switch Series. You can find the spec sheets at the bottom of the page - https://novelkeys.xyz/products/the-big-switch-series (https://novelkeys.xyz/products/the-big-switch-series)

Hrrrm..

It says 10mA..

With copper that big, it can definitely handle more..

I guess they didn't bother to test it since it's a novelty toy..

Go forth and destroy a switch with electricity for science! We shall all wait patiently for your results.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:53:36
Quote from: BobCarltheThird on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:41:06

Go forth and destroy a switch with electricity for science! We shall all wait patiently for your results.

Gonna have to wait on Chyros, because Tp4 = Ep1( p00r..
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: buckyballs on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:08:03
Quote from: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:02:34
I'm looking forward to mine showing up.  It will probably be the first switch I actually get to solder since the rest of my orders are backed up.  I'll be pairing it with the PCB and case from woodkeys.click.

And then... what keycap are you going to pair that with?

 ;D

Surely no member of this site will ever use the stock OEM keycaps that a switch comes with?
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: captsis on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:16:14
If I had one I'd make it a macro for the navy seal copy pasta
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: phorx on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:50:30
Quote from: buckyballs on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:08:03
Quote from: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:02:34
I'm looking forward to mine showing up.  It will probably be the first switch I actually get to solder since the rest of my orders are backed up.  I'll be pairing it with the PCB and case from woodkeys.click.

And then... what keycap are you going to pair that with?

 ;D

Surely no member of this site will ever use the stock OEM keycaps that a switch comes with?

I was considering a 3D printed one actually, that or sticker-bombing the OEM cap.  I'm also not sure yet what I'll program it to do... my first thought was to have it open r/aww for a quick fix when reading the news gets too depressing  ;D
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2018, 08:27:50
Quote from: phorx on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:50:30
Quote from: buckyballs on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:08:03
Quote from: phorx on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:02:34
I'm looking forward to mine showing up.  It will probably be the first switch I actually get to solder since the rest of my orders are backed up.  I'll be pairing it with the PCB and case from woodkeys.click.

And then... what keycap are you going to pair that with?

 ;D

Surely no member of this site will ever use the stock OEM keycaps that a switch comes with?

I was considering a 3D printed one actually, that or sticker-bombing the OEM cap.  I'm also not sure yet what I'll program it to do... my first thought was to have it open r/aww for a quick fix when reading the news gets too depressing  ;D

The stems are never smooth when 3d printed..
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: buckyballs on Thu, 08 March 2018, 02:54:43
Quote from: phorx on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:50:30

I was considering a 3D printed one actually, that or sticker-bombing the OEM cap.  I'm also not sure yet what I'll program it to do... my first thought was to have it open r/aww for a quick fix when reading the news gets too depressing  ;D

I'm hearing a lot of people say the news is very depressing now. Dunno why people hate Trump so much.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: captsis on Thu, 08 March 2018, 03:48:51
Quote from: buckyballs on Thu, 08 March 2018, 02:54:43
Quote from: phorx on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:50:30

I was considering a 3D printed one actually, that or sticker-bombing the OEM cap.  I'm also not sure yet what I'll program it to do... my first thought was to have it open r/aww for a quick fix when reading the news gets too depressing  ;D

I'm hearing a lot of people say the news is very depressing now. Dunno why people hate Trump so much.
I see you are not American. Loljk
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: buckyballs on Fri, 09 March 2018, 07:32:50
Quote from: captsis on Thu, 08 March 2018, 03:48:51
Quote from: buckyballs on Thu, 08 March 2018, 02:54:43
Quote from: phorx on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:50:30

I was considering a 3D printed one actually, that or sticker-bombing the OEM cap.  I'm also not sure yet what I'll program it to do... my first thought was to have it open r/aww for a quick fix when reading the news gets too depressing  ;D

I'm hearing a lot of people say the news is very depressing now. Dunno why people hate Trump so much.
I see you are not American. Loljk

OK, I see, you live in Hawaii. That explains it.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:11:46
Quote from: buckyballs on Fri, 09 March 2018, 07:32:50
Quote from: captsis on Thu, 08 March 2018, 03:48:51
Quote from: buckyballs on Thu, 08 March 2018, 02:54:43
Quote from: phorx on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:50:30

I was considering a 3D printed one actually, that or sticker-bombing the OEM cap.  I'm also not sure yet what I'll program it to do... my first thought was to have it open r/aww for a quick fix when reading the news gets too depressing  ;D

I'm hearing a lot of people say the news is very depressing now. Dunno why people hate Trump so much.
I see you are not American. Loljk

OK, I see, you live in Hawaii. That explains it.

I read hawaii has a huge obesity crysis..

Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: phorx on Fri, 09 March 2018, 12:07:51
Has anyone seen aftermarket keycaps for these other than the ones on massdrop?
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: captsis on Fri, 09 March 2018, 12:10:49
Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 10:11:46
Quote from: buckyballs on Fri, 09 March 2018, 07:32:50
Quote from: captsis on Thu, 08 March 2018, 03:48:51
Quote from: buckyballs on Thu, 08 March 2018, 02:54:43
Quote from: phorx on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:50:30

I was considering a 3D printed one actually, that or sticker-bombing the OEM cap.  I'm also not sure yet what I'll program it to do... my first thought was to have it open r/aww for a quick fix when reading the news gets too depressing  ;D

I'm hearing a lot of people say the news is very depressing now. Dunno why people hate Trump so much.
I see you are not American. Loljk

OK, I see, you live in Hawaii. That explains it.

I read hawaii has a huge obesity crysis..
Compared to the rest of the mainland? hardly. The state has a HUGE active duty military presence. However the Army does have the largest numbers compared to other branches. So not the best example of peak physical performance. XD
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: mrhead on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:02:03
(https://media.giphy.com/media/A0FGCbbooHe1y/giphy.gif)

I just put in an order for 104 of these for my new build.  Now where am I going to find a PCB??
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:51:22
Quote from: mrhead on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:02:03
I just put in an order for 104 of these for my new build.  Now where am I going to find a PCB??
Get it shipped in from Brobdingnag.
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 09 March 2018, 21:32:07
Quote from: mrhead on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:02:03
Show Image
(https://media.giphy.com/media/A0FGCbbooHe1y/giphy.gif)


I just put in an order for 104 of these for my new build.  Now where am I going to find a PCB??

I just imagined you punching those keys with your palm, Hungry Hippos-style.

Hope you have a good rolling chair to reach everything on that "keyboard".
Title: Re: Teardown - Kailh x Novelkeys BIG switches
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Fri, 09 March 2018, 21:35:23
Quote from: mrhead on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:02:03
Show Image
(https://media.giphy.com/media/A0FGCbbooHe1y/giphy.gif)


I just put in an order for 104 of these for my new build.  Now where am I going to find a PCB??
Worlds easiest handwire job. Gotta find someone to laser cut a plate for you though.