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Title: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:37:38
Ya'll see it on TV,  but is that better than living in a tent ?

Why would someone choose car over a tent

Given the thin glass windows in a car, can't imagine that's better insulation vs a tent..


Is it better in the rain perhaps ??


Have only tried out a tent in my backyard,  and still found it way more comfortable than long car-ride experiences.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: dblack on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:40:41
easier to find a parking spot than a place to put a tent probably.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:43:45
i cant drive a tent
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:56:53
i cant drive a tent

well, you'd pack the tent, and put it in the trunk for when you need to drive out for supplies.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: futurecrime on Wed, 07 March 2018, 17:53:44
A car is more secure. Plus it has heating.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 07 March 2018, 17:55:58
A car has comfortable seats, versus a tent where you sleep on the cold hard ground or a claustrophobia inducing sleeping bag
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 March 2018, 18:09:06
Lying flat on an inflatable mattress beats sleeping in the seat of a car any day.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Waateva on Wed, 07 March 2018, 19:25:23
A car can be locked, moved, has heat and AC, and has a dual purpose of getting you from place to place.  A tent may be a little more comfortable (depending greatly on the vehicle and tent in question) but that seems like the only potential advantage you would have.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 07 March 2018, 19:35:44
Sucks. I wished I had had A/C back then. Twas hot.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 07 March 2018, 19:41:18
All station wagons and hatchbacks these days have back seats that fold down to get more room -- which could provide a sleeping area with a mattress. In some cars the back seats fold down flat and level with the trunk, and are big enough to stretch out on. Privacy would be a concern though.

A car is safer than a tent because it has a hard shell and is lockable -- and if it gets really weird, you can move it without having to even get out of it.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2018, 19:44:57
All station wagons and hatchbacks these days have back seats that fold down to get more room -- which could provide a sleeping area with a mattress. In some cars the back seats fold down flat and level with the trunk, and are big enough to stretch out on. Privacy would be a concern though.

A car is safer than a tent because it has a hard shell and is lockable -- and if it gets really weird, you can move it without having to even get out of it.

From animals, for sure..  But not from humans.. they'd just do the window, then knock you out before you figure out what's going on.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 07 March 2018, 20:02:19
Don't do it tp4tissue.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Wed, 07 March 2018, 20:12:02
All you need is a van, a window blind, shag carpet, keyboard and guitar.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 March 2018, 20:15:57
Don't do it tp4tissue.

Hahahahaha.. ts' just sumtin Tp4 sawz on the Tv,   

Tp4 = Never outside..  and Seldom Back-yard.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: emenelopee on Wed, 07 March 2018, 20:18:42
Has anyone said "bears" yet? Because bears.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 07 March 2018, 20:19:42
Don't do it tp4tissue.

Hahahahaha.. ts' just sumtin Tp4 sawz on the Tv,   

Tp4 = Never outside..  and Seldom Back-yard.


That is, until The Urge strikes him of course
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 March 2018, 21:25:07
Just your old buddy Matt Foley, here.

If anyone needs me, I'll be in my VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!



Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: xtrafrood on Wed, 07 March 2018, 22:01:20
Just your old buddy Matt Foley, here.

If anyone needs me, I'll be in my VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!




Moral of the story: snort copious amounts of coke.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 07 March 2018, 22:36:23
Would rather live in a tent than a car. Gas costs money, and if you're living in a car you probably cannot afford to drive it.

Honestly if I were homeless I'd build a shanty shack out of found lumbar and sheet metal. Make a nice little home by a river somewhere.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Thu, 08 March 2018, 06:30:29
Would rather live in a tent than a car. Gas costs money, and if you're living in a car you probably cannot afford to drive it.

Honestly if I were homeless I'd build a shanty shack out of found lumbar and sheet metal. Make a nice little home by a river somewhere.

Yeah, a nice little shanty home next to that van by the river  :))
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: cjhard on Thu, 08 March 2018, 08:02:35
Would rather live in a tent than a car. Gas costs money, and if you're living in a car you probably cannot afford to drive it.

Honestly if I were homeless I'd build a shanty shack out of found lumbar and sheet metal. Make a nice little home by a river somewhere.

It was easier to afford gas than rent. You can also say "At least I still have my car" when you're homeless with a car, and the reality of your situation doesn't feel so bleak all the time.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 08:04:43
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 March 2018, 08:11:07
Just buy a school bus instead of a car, and you can live quite comfortably indeed:

https://imgur.com/gallery/kaU4b

https://imgur.com/a/hjP5A

(https://i.imgur.com/7r1FmQp.jpg)




Also:

http://www.hankboughtabus.com/




Or maybe even a Sprinter van:

https://imgur.com/gallery/Xvr7k

(https://i.imgur.com/jA8VfaY.jpg)




Also:

http://www.tinyhousetinyfootprint.com/blogposts/guest-post-sprinter-van-conversion


Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: cjhard on Thu, 08 March 2018, 08:49:13
A bus would have been way nicer than living in a 2-door 1998 Chrysler Sebring!
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:26:27
I've thought a few times about what I would do if I ended up single again. Instead of trying to afford $2000 rent on my own, I think I'd probably sell my car and buy a small cargo van. Just put a mattress in the back and you have a safe, relatively secure living space. My current job has 24/7 access so I'd probably spend most of my time at work and just return to my van to sleep. It's in a gated parking garage anyways so no police or anyone to bother me. In an emergency, it would be as simple as just moving the van.

You could always go extra fancy if you want.
(https://i.imgur.com/OChWZg6.jpg)
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Signature on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:29:58
I've thought a few times about what I would do if I ended up single again. Instead of trying to afford $2000 rent on my own, I think I'd probably sell my car and buy a small cargo van. Just put a mattress in the back and you have a safe, relatively secure living space. My current job has 24/7 access so I'd probably spend most of my time at work and just return to my van to sleep. It's in a gated parking garage anyways so no police or anyone to bother me. In an emergency, it would be as simple as just moving the van.

You could always go extra fancy if you want.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OChWZg6.jpg)

Sounds pretty cozy to me  :thumb:
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:31:11
I've thought a few times about what I would do if I ended up single again. Instead of trying to afford $2000 rent on my own, I think I'd probably sell my car and buy a small cargo van. Just put a mattress in the back and you have a safe, relatively secure living space. My current job has 24/7 access so I'd probably spend most of my time at work and just return to my van to sleep. It's in a gated parking garage anyways so no police or anyone to bother me. In an emergency, it would be as simple as just moving the van.

You could always go extra fancy if you want.
Show Image
(http://www.extravaganzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Lexani-Andalucia-Mercedes-Sprinter4.jpg)


$2000 rent?

Look for places where the poor community and rich community converge (separated by small distances like a single street, hundred feet...)

These places usually retain the cheap rent of the poor community, along with the relative safety of the rich community.


Obviously you'll be living on the p00r side of the dividing line.. But as long as you're not bringing upscale friends over,  it's no big deal.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 17:43:21
I've thought a few times about what I would do if I ended up single again. Instead of trying to afford $2000 rent on my own, I think I'd probably sell my car and buy a small cargo van. Just put a mattress in the back and you have a safe, relatively secure living space. My current job has 24/7 access so I'd probably spend most of my time at work and just return to my van to sleep. It's in a gated parking garage anyways so no police or anyone to bother me. In an emergency, it would be as simple as just moving the van.

You could always go extra fancy if you want.
Show Image
(http://www.extravaganzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Lexani-Andalucia-Mercedes-Sprinter4.jpg)


$2000 rent?

Look for places where the poor community and rich community converge (separated by small distances like a single street, hundred feet...)

These places usually retain the cheap rent of the poor community, along with the relative safety of the rich community.


Obviously you'll be living on the p00r side of the dividing line.. But as long as you're not bringing upscale friends over,  it's no big deal.


This is Boston TP. If you want to be anywhere within 30 minutes of the city, you will be paying at least $1500/month, unless you live in Chelsea or Dorchester (incredibly dangerous places to live). We were actually quite lucky to find a two bedroom apartment for only $1700/month in a safe, middle class area. If I moved back to Kentucky, the two of us could get a 4BR house for less than it costs us to rent.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:24:01


This is Boston TP. If you want to be anywhere within 30 minutes of the city, you will be paying at least $1500/month, unless you live in Chelsea or Dorchester (incredibly dangerous places to live). We were actually quite lucky to find a two bedroom apartment for only $1700/month in a safe, middle class area. If I moved back to Kentucky, the two of us could get a 4BR house for less than it costs us to rent.

Washington.. marajuana farm.

// The Dream !!
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 08 March 2018, 18:47:31
Yea, bus or cargo van sound like much better options than a Honda 3D DX. So much room for stuff, and activities!
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:10:01
Yea, bus or cargo van sound like much better options than a Honda 3D DX. So much room for stuff, and activities!

You could even fit a few keyboards!  :))
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:19:23
Yea, bus or cargo van sound like much better options than a Honda 3D DX. So much room for stuff, and activities!

You could even fit a few keyboards!  :))

Noo...  N00000ooooo......

We can't escapes it.. !!



(https://i.imgur.com/rzEkOCY.jpg)
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:36:04
Man I'd have so much more money if I didn't have to give a good chunk of pay for rent.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 March 2018, 20:49:18
Man I'd have so much more money if I didn't have to give a good chunk of pay for rent.

The more I watch these Van-Life videos on the utube,   The more alluring it is..


The one thing I simply can't stand is not having solid access to hot showers..

Other than that though,  It seems like everything else works pretty much the same.


Except Gigabit ethernet.. which is, hrrrm.. i guess i wouldn't be able to stand van-life afterall..

I mean.. What would I do without gigabit..   Tp4 requires gigabit..  do you know how long a linux iso would take without gigabit.??


FOREVER !!!
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Thu, 08 March 2018, 21:13:47
A gym membership or facilities at a YMCA should address the need for showers. This provides the benefit of getting fit and meeting the females. Also you can bum internet anywhere there is free wifi, no need for gigabit since you are too busy living a new lifestyle.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 March 2018, 21:37:05
A gym membership or facilities at a YMCA should address the need for showers. This provides the benefit of getting fit and meeting the females. Also you can bum internet anywhere there is free wifi, no need for gigabit since you are too busy living a new lifestyle.


It's calling me... I can feel it guys..


hahahahahaha....


Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 08 March 2018, 21:57:29
I’ve got a buddy that lives in a van. He hasn’t converted it too much so it looks pretty ****ty, but he’s happy.

I think I could do it if I were a single guy living in a metro area. Lots of free WiFi and just ride a bike everywhere.  I’d definitely want to finish out the interior though to give some semblance of a home.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Thu, 08 March 2018, 22:26:11
I seriously watched a ton of YouTube videos and read literature on building or living in tiny houses. I think I could do the van thing as well, except I've got like 7-8 months left on my apartment lease. I would need a keeb stash since that all would fill a van. Also I'd need a kickass van, not some pedo van down by the river. This adventure is calling me. What about an address though...It's so hard getting a license, insurance, etc without a legit address, SS card, birth certificate, fingerprint, retina scan, dna analysis, etc. Indiana is the worst. They hate poor people.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Thu, 08 March 2018, 22:40:44
Whoa...there is a van dwellers subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 08 March 2018, 23:17:40
Whoa...there is a van dwellers subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/

Also https://www.instagram.com/vanlife.journal/ :shrugs:
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 08 March 2018, 23:24:32
Whoa...there is a van dwellers subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/

There have also been some good write ups on r/diy.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 00:59:17
Man I'd have so much more money if I didn't have to give a good chunk of pay for rent.

Literally! I'm not living awfully by any stretch and I'm really quite fortunate to make as much as I do. But I'd be much more comfortable if I didn't have to throw half my paycheck to rent every month.


The more I watch these Van-Life videos on the utube,   The more alluring it is..


The one thing I simply can't stand is not having solid access to hot showers..

Other than that though,  It seems like everything else works pretty much the same.


Except Gigabit ethernet.. which is, hrrrm.. i guess i wouldn't be able to stand van-life afterall..

I mean.. What would I do without gigabit..   Tp4 requires gigabit..  do you know how long a linux iso would take without gigabit.??


FOREVER !!!


I think I'd actually like to try it, but not seriously. I could deal with the showers (there is a free gym in my workplace) and internet (gigabit also at the workplace) and I could save around $10K/year!

I seriously watched a ton of YouTube videos and read literature on building or living in tiny houses. I think I could do the van thing as well, except I've got like 7-8 months left on my apartment lease. I would need a keeb stash since that all would fill a van. Also I'd need a kickass van, not some pedo van down by the river. This adventure is calling me. What about an address though...It's so hard getting a license, insurance, etc without a legit address, SS card, birth certificate, fingerprint, retina scan, dna analysis, etc. Indiana is the worst. They hate poor people.

Massachusetts is the worst state I've lived in when it comes to all that, but since I have a permanent address already it would be a lot easier. I have a PO box already so I'd transfer 99% of my stuff to that address and then for the 1% that requires a "physical address" I'd figure something out. Hell, the old tenants from like 3 years ago still get mail and every once in awhile I see someone picking up their stack of mail from the lobby.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 08:03:40
At-the-moment.

I'm not totally sure if it's the Adventure (travel) or the idea of BUILDING a mobile home-Van.


Cuz.. u know gekhakrs,  gotta put them Cherry mx in dat van.. !!

My keeb is better than your keeb, 

My keeb is a Whole Van,

And I LIVE IN IT,  Down by the RIVER..
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 14:37:50

Cuz.. u know gekhakrs,  gotta put them Cherry mx in dat van.. !!

My keeb is better than your keeb, 

My keeb is a Whole Van,

And I LIVE IN IT,  Down by the RIVER..


[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:03:23
The downside to the van option is that it really would not be out of line to spend $10k on a decent van and another $10-15k to fully equip it with all the goodies like solar panels, plumbing, electrical, composting toilet, etc, etc. Of course trade-offs can be made to engineer a cheaper solution.  This expense plus the opportunity cost of doing all the work really might not be worth the headache depending on the cost of living in the area. The prospect of saving money and sense of adventure is appealing though. Also reducing possessions and living a minimalist lifestyle could be spiritually enriching. 
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: xtrafrood on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:07:29
...composting toilet...
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:09:48
The downside to the van option is that it really would not be out of line to spend $10k on a decent van and another $10-15k to fully equip it with all the goodies like solar panels, plumbing, electrical, composting toilet, etc, etc. Of course trade-offs can be made to engineer a cheaper solution.  This expense plus the opportunity cost of doing all the work really might not be worth the headache depending on the cost of living in the area. The prospect of saving money and sense of adventure is appealing though. Also reducing possessions and living a minimalist lifestyle could be spiritually enriching.

If it were me, I'd just get a $1000 van off Craigslist and throw a mattress in the back. There are couches, Xboxes, Playstations, etc at work so no need to worry about making the van super comfortable. For all the extra stuff I have currently stored in our spare room, I'd just rent a UHAUL storage unit for $50/month and gradually whittle it down until I could either carry it all or until I get a new actual residence.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:19:40
The downside to the van option is that it really would not be out of line to spend $10k on a decent van and another $10-15k to fully equip it with all the goodies like solar panels, plumbing, electrical, composting toilet, etc, etc. Of course trade-offs can be made to engineer a cheaper solution.  This expense plus the opportunity cost of doing all the work really might not be worth the headache depending on the cost of living in the area. The prospect of saving money and sense of adventure is appealing though. Also reducing possessions and living a minimalist lifestyle could be spiritually enriching.

If it were me, I'd just get a $1000 van off Craigslist and throw a mattress in the back. There are couches, Xboxes, Playstations, etc at work so no need to worry about making the van super comfortable. For all the extra stuff I have currently stored in our spare room, I'd just rent a UHAUL storage unit for $50/month and gradually whittle it down until I could either carry it all or until I get a new actual residence.


Gonna need some butane heaters. and possibly insulation, but other than that, it should work fine.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:30:02
If only it were that simple. $1000 won't get you much in terms of a vehicle. Practically speaking you at least want something with a reliable engine and transmission and with plenty of living space for clothes (assuming you want to remain employable) and other essentials. Lets say $5-8k realistically. Lets also consider climate control. In cold climates a proper heater is necessary and I guess some sort of electrical system would be needed to support this. Any food prep or storage would be quite limited in these spartan conditions. I suppose you would have extra money to eat out though. 
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:33:40
Something like this should be sufficient even for the most challenging neighborhoods.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Ford-E-Series-Van-E-250-SUPER-DUTY-B4-KEVLAR-ARMORED-LOW-RESERVE/253477382597?hash=item3b046de9c5:g:wZkAAOSwhj9akwcf&vxp=mtr

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]

- or -

You can go with the van down by the river starter pack:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Ford-E-Series-Van-CHATEAU/183099657323?hash=item2aa1970c6b:g:6QIAAOSwL9taleph&vxp=mtr

[attachimg=3]
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:36:19
If you get a CDL, you could buy a used Class A rig with a sleeper...
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:47:04
If you get a CDL, you could buy a used Class A rig with a sleeper...

And change careers and just drive a truck all day...
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:48:08
If you get a CDL, you could buy a used Class A rig with a sleeper...

And change careers and just drive a truck all day...

All good until you have home time and your wife gets pregnant and needs you home...
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:01:44
Eh, I have no wife or home and neither of which are likely to happen anytime soon in my case.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:07:43
If you get a CDL, you could buy a used Class A rig with a sleeper...

And change careers and just drive a truck all day...

All good until you have home time and your wife gets pregnant and needs you home...

Divorce = 100% m0ar van life.. !!
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: rich1051414 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:14:20
I have a house, but I have also never been married xD I was 13 when my little brother was born, and my mother did not take that pregnancy well, and her health fell apart after giving birth, leaving me to raise him. My parents were also very poor, so that meant I had to hold two jobs while also getting an education to afford his diapers, food, and things he needed, and yes, I did have to lie about my age to get those jobs.

Needless to say, that part of my life was a struggle I am still shook up by, constantly being pulled in multiple directions, and constantly being ashamed of letting people down for there not being enough of me to go around. I now have a career and my own house, but I also have 3 ex fiances. I don't want children, and that chases away women, thinking I lack commitment, but they simply don't understand. It is not a lack of commitment. I lost my childhood to ensure my brother had one, and I feel like I have sacrificed too much for others already.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:26:24
I have a house, but I have also never been married xD I was 13 when my little brother was born, and my mother did not take that pregnancy well, and her health fell apart after giving birth, leaving me to raise him. My parents were also very poor, so that meant I had to hold two jobs while also getting an education to afford his diapers, food, and things he needed, and yes, I did have to lie about my age to get those jobs.

Needless to say, that part of my life was a struggle I am still shook up by, constantly being pulled in multiple directions, and constantly being ashamed of letting people down for there not being enough of me to go around. I now have a career and my own house, but I also have 3 ex fiances. I don't want children, and that chases away women, thinking I lack commitment, but they simply don't understand. It is not a lack of commitment. I lost my childhood to ensure my brother had one, and I feel like I have sacrificed too much for others already.

I know the feeling but I can't say I've experienced things to that degree. Hopefully your brother turned out all right.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:28:13
I have a house, but I have also never been married xD I was 13 when my little brother was born, and my mother did not take that pregnancy well, and her health fell apart after giving birth, leaving me to raise him. My parents were also very poor, so that meant I had to hold two jobs while also getting an education to afford his diapers, food, and things he needed, and yes, I did have to lie about my age to get those jobs.

Needless to say, that part of my life was a struggle I am still shook up by, constantly being pulled in multiple directions, and constantly being ashamed of letting people down for there not being enough of me to go around. I now have a career and my own house, but I also have 3 ex fiances. I don't want children, and that chases away women, thinking I lack commitment, but they simply don't understand. It is not a lack of commitment. I lost my childhood to ensure my brother had one, and I feel like I have sacrificed too much for others already.

Hrrrmm..

I think if you put that condition upfront,  you would've gotten the more in-tune female.

ALTHOUGH,  we have to wonder, a Female which doesn't want children..  Something is likely seriously wrong with this female.. and she may not be terribly pleasant a partner for the long haul..


Because it's like buying a car with no wheels..  Yea, such a car exists, and does everything else that a car does, except going anywhere..

Similarly,   Signing a Marriage (procreative) contract ,  sans the Procreation..


So user -Rich-  must find a female with an equally hard/damaged past, who does not want children, but has a good well rounded personality NOT reflecting her harsh past..


Tall order..
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:57:11
Something like this should be sufficient even for the most challenging neighborhoods.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Ford-E-Series-Van-E-250-SUPER-DUTY-B4-KEVLAR-ARMORED-LOW-RESERVE/253477382597?hash=item3b046de9c5:g:wZkAAOSwhj9akwcf&vxp=mtr

(Attachment Link)

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- or -

You can go with the van down by the river starter pack:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Ford-E-Series-Van-CHATEAU/183099657323?hash=item2aa1970c6b:g:6QIAAOSwL9taleph&vxp=mtr

(Attachment Link)

All of the clothes I have now fit in a few drawers. Wouldn't be that hard to keep them folded in my filing cabinet. And of course the climate is cold here but idling a cargo van only costs about $1.50/hour while you are trying to get back on your feet. Plus I know places I could sleep in my office where no one ever goes that I could go to in the case of extremely bad weather. Work also has a kitchen stocked with cereal, oatmeal, salad, etc. along with fridge and microwave, so my food needs would be covered there. Honestly, as long as I didn't lose my job I could pretty much live at work.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:14:24


All of the clothes I have now fit in a few drawers. Wouldn't be that hard to keep them folded in my filing cabinet. And of course the climate is cold here but idling a cargo van only costs about $1.50/hour while you are trying to get back on your feet. Plus I know places I could sleep in my office where no one ever goes that I could go to in the case of extremely bad weather. Work also has a kitchen stocked with cereal, oatmeal, salad, etc. along with fridge and microwave, so my food needs would be covered there. Honestly, as long as I didn't lose my job I could pretty much live at work.

Pretty sure they'll fire you if they found out you were pilfering work food.. amenities.. hahahaha

I'm not sure, but i think car alternators push 100-120 amps dc.. maybe less on idle.. that's certainly more than enough heat.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:51:27
Naw, just get one of those heaters that can siphon gas from your gas tank.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:00:50
Naw, just get one of those heaters that can siphon gas from your gas tank.

That's what I was thinking. They are common for Class A trucks.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:15:51
Naw, just get one of those heaters that can siphon gas from your gas tank.

That's what I was thinking. They are common for Class A trucks.

how do these heaters work..  it just burns gasoline .. ?

Wouldn't that give people cancer.

Does it have an indoor outdoor heat exchanger?
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:18:58
From what I know of them, they burn a tiny amount of fuel from the tank, as it drips into a pan. The sealed exhaust from this burning heats the cab without idling the engine.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:21:44
From what I know of them, they burn a tiny amount of fuel from the tank, as it drips into a pan. The sealed exhaust from this burning heats the cab without idling the engine.

What... ?

Hahahhaa.. I can't picture this.. if the exhaust is sealed, it has an intake cycle for the next firing?
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:45:42
Espar cab heater:

Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:05:39
Espar cab heater:


Jesus. $800  hahahaha



Wouldn't a lawnmower/ leafblower engine with a modified flywheel work exactly the same way.. ??


Any engineer could pull that for $200 tops.. Brand new honda engine.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:12:01
Well, just a basic oil change for a semi tractor is $250+
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: rich1051414 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:13:46
I have a house, but I have also never been married xD I was 13 when my little brother was born, and my mother did not take that pregnancy well, and her health fell apart after giving birth, leaving me to raise him. My parents were also very poor, so that meant I had to hold two jobs while also getting an education to afford his diapers, food, and things he needed, and yes, I did have to lie about my age to get those jobs.

Needless to say, that part of my life was a struggle I am still shook up by, constantly being pulled in multiple directions, and constantly being ashamed of letting people down for there not being enough of me to go around. I now have a career and my own house, but I also have 3 ex fiances. I don't want children, and that chases away women, thinking I lack commitment, but they simply don't understand. It is not a lack of commitment. I lost my childhood to ensure my brother had one, and I feel like I have sacrificed too much for others already.

Hrrrmm..

I think if you put that condition upfront,  you would've gotten the more in-tune female.

ALTHOUGH,  we have to wonder, a Female which doesn't want children..  Something is likely seriously wrong with this female.. and she may not be terribly pleasant a partner for the long haul..


Because it's like buying a car with no wheels..  Yea, such a car exists, and does everything else that a car does, except going anywhere..

Similarly,   Signing a Marriage (procreative) contract ,  sans the Procreation..


So user -Rich-  must find a female with an equally hard/damaged past, who does not want children, but has a good well rounded personality NOT reflecting her harsh past..


Tall order..


You assume I don't get that out of the way up front. People seem to think it is some kind of 'mask', a front, but as time goes by and they realize it isn't, it becomes more of a big deal until everything falls apart. I totally get it though, I don't hold it against anyone who wants kids, I am just not one of those people.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:15:44
Well, just a basic oil change for a semi tractor is $250+

for diy ? or at the Sharks..
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:25:36
Another downside to a semi is the height requirement.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Sat, 10 March 2018, 17:06:32
Another downside to a semi is the height requirement.

Damn, that's what she said.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: xtrafrood on Sat, 10 March 2018, 17:22:06
Another downside to a semi is the height requirement.

Damn, that's what she said.

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Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 10 March 2018, 18:20:18
Why do I keep reading it's all about -Girth- ??

hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:42:47
I don't want something too wide either.  :))
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:15:52
U guys know Water World ?

Living out of a van would be exactly like that.. except no swimming skills necessary ?
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:37:20
U guys know Water World ?

Living out of a van would be exactly like that.. except no swimming skills necessary ?


Swimming might be a good skill to have when your living in a van down by the river.

I always pictured van life like this, sadly this is the not the reality.

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Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:07:23
U guys know Water World ?

Living out of a van would be exactly like that.. except no swimming skills necessary ?


Swimming might be a good skill to have when your living in a van down by the river.

I always pictured van life like this, sadly this is the not the reality.

(Attachment Link)


Yea basically watching all of the van builds on youtube..

People don't have a very good ventilation system for cooking..

They all have this tiny fan in the top middle of their van, but imho, it should be duct to the cooker..
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:31:40
U guys know Water World ?

Living out of a van would be exactly like that.. except no swimming skills necessary ?


Swimming might be a good skill to have when your living in a van down by the river.

I always pictured van life like this, sadly this is the not the reality.

(Attachment Link)


Yea basically watching all of the van builds on youtube..

People don't have a very good ventilation system for cooking..

They all have this tiny fan in the top middle of their van, but imho, it should be duct to the cooker..


When I was driving a truck with my trainer, he brought along a cooler with food and a propane stove. When we stopped for the night, he would setup his stove outside the truck and cook his steaks or whatever. Boiled water for oatmeal in the morning before leaving.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:44:32

When I was driving a truck with my trainer, he brought along a cooler with food and a propane stove. When we stopped for the night, he would setup his stove outside the truck and cook his steaks or whatever. Boiled water for oatmeal in the morning before leaving.

Yea, temporary is fine.

The ducting is for when they can't do it outside or in unremitting weather.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: ander on Sat, 17 March 2018, 03:12:47
i cant drive a tent

well, you'd pack the tent, and put it in the trunk for when you need to drive out for supplies.

But he just said you can't drive a tent.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: ander on Sat, 17 March 2018, 03:15:10
Tiny Truck + Mini Trailer = Super Small Mobile Camper Car! (https://dornob.com/tiny-truck-mini-trailer-super-small-mobile-camper-car/)


(https://dornob.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/compact-mobile-camper-home.jpg)


(https://dornob.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/compact-mini-mobile-home.jpg)


The thing is, where would anyone who lived in something like this have to go?
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: ander on Sat, 17 March 2018, 03:23:54
Tp4 = Never outside...

I've gotta ask: Is it because you don't want to, or because you're not allowed to?
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 17 March 2018, 09:01:01
Tp4 = Never outside...

I've gotta ask: Is it because you don't want to, or because you're not allowed to?



Lack of appropriate outside activity..

Tp4 goes outside, and what's there to do ?

There's Costco

There's Home Depot

There's the Movie theater


And what else... ??
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 17 March 2018, 17:52:08
Tp4 = Never outside...

I've gotta ask: Is it because you don't want to, or because you're not allowed to?



Lack of appropriate outside activity..

Tp4 goes outside, and what's there to do ?

There's Costco

There's Home Depot

There's the Movie theater


And what else... ??


More girrlz outside where tp4 is not, than inside where tp4 is.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Wed, 21 March 2018, 22:09:30
Hey Tp4,

I found a opportunity for you to meet some girls in Vegas. You just need a van to get this gig.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/866z28/las_vegas_vandweller_job_available/
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 21 March 2018, 22:18:21
Hey Tp4,

I found a opportunity for you to meet some girls in Vegas. You just need a van to get this gig.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/866z28/las_vegas_vandweller_job_available/


This is exactly the kind of leaflet a Murderer would write up..

hahahaha..

/cowardice overwhelming

JP, perhaps we install a gun-turret on van.. van with gun-turret..  couple of servos,, hook it up to an Aimbot,,  full auto. !!


Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Wed, 21 March 2018, 22:22:36
Hey, I did post a van for sale I found on eBay that is lined with kevlar and bullet resistant glass. If anything you could also sell vegetarian food from your van. That may even keep some of the undesirables away. Also try and steer clear from the lot lizards.
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 21 March 2018, 22:31:02
Hey, I did post a van for sale I found on eBay that is lined with kevlar and bullet resistant glass. If anything you could also sell vegetarian food from your van. That may even keep some of the undesirables away. Also try and steer clear from the lot lizards.

u never know, might get lucky, and not get a lizard..
Title: Re: Living out of a car
Post by: JP on Thu, 22 March 2018, 07:38:19
u never know, might get lucky, and not get a lizard..

That's the spirit.