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Title: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:48:46

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Only $499.... 2 flexvolt batteries,  and charger..

Already own a cheapee miter saw,  but not a sliding one..  this one slides... and I assume is more accurate than my harbor frit saw..


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Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:54:50

What are you going to build?

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Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:01:12

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:54:50

What are you going to build?

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IDK yet..

but when I was doing wood-stuff the last time,  my current miter was consistently 0.5-1 degree off, and it wasn't quite big enough to cut larger boards....  So I had to do the miter saw dance, flipping the board over cutting it twice thing..

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: AMongoose on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:06:33

why would you ever need this on batteries?

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:14:37

Quote from: AMongoose on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:06:33

why would you ever need this on batteries?

DC brushless.. M0ar P0wrrrr.. m0ar RPM

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:20:17

Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:48:46

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Only $499.... 2 flexvolt batteries,  and charger..

Already own a cheapee miter saw,  but not a sliding one..  this one slides... and I assume is more accurate than my harbor frit saw..

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I'd say don't waste your money on the cordless version, miter saws are way to much for batteries of any voltage. The only usage you can really get out of these is working with trim out materials such as crown moulding, baseboard, quater round, shoe moulding, etc. Even at that you'll be changing the batteries ever hr. or so. Very frustrating to work with on a full job IMHO. I have a buddy who has one of these & he brought it to a trim job we were doing, I was so sick of it after one day I brought my proper corded miter saw in the following day. The batteries constantly needed replaced & we blowing cuts left & right cause the batteries would die in the middle of cuts (Li-on batteries tend to just stop flat out when they need charged vs Ni-cads that would slow down some which alerted you to the fact they were in need of charging). The only thing I would find this saw useful for is repair work where you'll only be making a few cuts on the job.

I would suggest this saw TBH, https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-15-Amp-Corded-12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-DWS779/206541015, it's corded so no worries about power, takes a 12' blade so the cutting height is good, slides for cutting wider materials, is double bevel to make life much easier for making miter cuts, & is $100 cheaper. Then if you really want to go all out you can get the same saw I have, https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-15-Amp-12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-DWS780/202922350. Although the extra features you get for the $200 more it costs are more useful for working with large framing lumber than anything else making it a great job site saw but kinda overkill for a home project saw.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:49:56

Quote from: Rob27shred on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:20:17

--knowledge--

Well wouldn't the cordless version work the same way as a corded, if cord was necessary?

because it has the ac-adapter if I intend to plug it in.. 

and it costs the same as the $599 corded

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:58:51

Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:49:56

Quote from: Rob27shred on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:20:17

--knowledge--

Well wouldn't the cordless version work the same way as a corded, if cord was necessary?

because it has the ac-adapter if I intend to plug it in.. 

and it costs the same as the $599 corded

Ok if it does have the capabilities to be plugged into to an AC outlet I would say go for it then. I'm not sure if the one my buddy brought to that job was a different one or or he just didn't have the AC adapter for it but I don't remember his being able to be plugged into an AC outlet. That's why I hated the thing so much, LOL! With that capability you can pretty much disregard what I said about it. :thumb:

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: Blaise170 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 10:20:13

Don't do it.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 12 March 2018, 11:53:12

Do it.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:51:26

Quote from: csmertx on Mon, 12 March 2018, 11:53:12

Do it.

Quote from: Blaise170 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 10:20:13

Don't do it.

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Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 March 2018, 21:01:03

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:54:50

What are you going to build?

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Build?

Who said anything about building?

This is for destroying stuff - cutting things into smaller things ;)

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 12 March 2018, 21:10:18

Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 12 March 2018, 21:01:03

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:54:50

What are you going to build?

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Build?

Who said anything about building?

This is for destroying stuff - cutting things into smaller things ;)

Tp4 = Not a murdurer

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 12 March 2018, 22:54:02

I assume this is not for a jobsite... In which case, odds are you won't use it enough to keep the batteries maintained.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 13 March 2018, 00:03:08

Are you going to be chopping up those evil AR-15 semi-automatic rifles?

If so, don’t just chop the barrel, as you might inadvertently manufacture a short barreled rifle, which is prohibited by the National Firearms Act. You might get a visit from the BATF, if they found out somehow.

Yes, I’m talking about that stupid person running for Congress that posted a video to Facebook of herself doing just that.

:))

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:51:53

Instead of buying lots of tools, form a makerspace in your area and get a collection of better, more expensive tools funded through crowdfunding and sponsoring.
Then also use the makerspace as a platform to spread interest about mechanical keyboards and for hosting keyboard parties.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: kurplop on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:00:34

While Dewalt makes a lot of fine tools, I’m not fond of their miter saws. I own two and don’t like them as much as some of the other brands I’ve owned.
Batteries are expensive and unless you frequently need them where power isn’t available, there is little advantage having battery power for stationary tools.
Any convenience a cordless miter saw offers may be offset by the additional weight. The saw is heavy and bulky enough without batteries.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: JP on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:27:55

Heck I bought an old Craftsman (corded) model at a garage sale for a steal at $20. No way I would spend that much on one.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: buckyballs on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:29:37

Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 13 March 2018, 00:03:08

Are you going to be chopping up those evil AR-15 semi-automatic rifles?

If so, don’t just chop the barrel, as you might inadvertently manufacture a short barreled rifle, which is prohibited by the National Firearms Act. You might get a visit from the BATF, if they found out somehow.

Yes, I’m talking about that stupid person running for Congress that posted a video to Facebook of herself doing just that.

:))

I'm pretty sure the NRA would support all and any modifications to weapons as long as you promise to buy more weapons from them.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:31:17

Quote from: JP on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:27:55

Heck I bought an old Craftsman (corded) model at a garage sale for a steal at $20. No way I would spend that much on one.

But Brushless !!

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: JP on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:36:00

Look at Japanese carpentry. They built entire temples without screws, nails, or fancy cordless saws.

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:26:44

Sliding compound mitre saw is probably one of the most versatile saws next to a hand held circular saw. I personally dont travel with my saw so i didnt need the battery powered one... I got this one and then bought a real blade for it. https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C12RSH2-12-Inch-Sliding-Compound/dp/B01GET8278/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520983553&sr=8-3

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:32:27

Quote from: OfTheWild on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:26:44

Sliding compound mitre saw is probably one of the most versatile saws next to a hand held circular saw. I personally dont travel with my saw so i didnt need the battery powered one... I got this one and then bought a real blade for it. https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C12RSH2-12-Inch-Sliding-Compound/dp/B01GET8278/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520983553&sr=8-3

Hrrrrrmm.. The vertical handle.. That's m0ar like the ergodox..

Just noticed that.. Hrrrrmm...

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: JP on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:23:38

I wonder what kind of switches it has?  :)

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: captsis on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:37:06

Quote from: OfTheWild on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:26:44

Sliding compound mitre saw is probably one of the most versatile saws next to a hand held circular saw. I personally dont travel with my saw so i didnt need the battery powered one... I got this one and then bought a real blade for it. https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C12RSH2-12-Inch-Sliding-Compound/dp/B01GET8278/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520983553&sr=8-3

Im with this dude.

Dont go with cordless. Too little Ah for that much power depending on your use. But since it has an adapter I guess you cant lose....?

Title: Re: Does Tp4 need this ?
Post by: JP on Tue, 13 March 2018, 20:52:11

What about something like this? Even cheaper yet.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-Compact-10-Inch-Single-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw/302669626221?epid=1741305610&hash=item467883fb6d:g:YlkAAOSwDMhZsX56