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Title: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 09:04:25
Update #1: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94733.msg2580679#msg2580679
Update #2: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94733.msg2606060#msg2606060
Update #3: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94733.msg2631316#msg2631316
Update #4: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94733.msg2639735#msg2639735


Hello geekhack community,
as long as I've been part of this community and hobby I've always liked uncommon sublegends, localisations and special keycaps. One of the sets that I've always adored was the greek Cherry keyset which was produced for olivetti. This is a picture of the keyset:

(https://i.imgur.com/mWKK6Q8.jpg)

More pictures can be found here: https://deskthority.net/photos-f62/cherry-g81-3011-hbq-t10437.html


Some of you are probably not even familiar with the set, the others probably know how rare these sets are and that it's very difficult to get their hands on one. As this set was produced by Cherry, we still have the opportunity to produce a remake by GMK. To make this happen, I wanna collect interest here. If we get enough responses here, I'll start to look for a vendor and hopefully this will result in a successful group buy, just like 9009 did.
I don't have any renders renders ready but I think that the original pictures already speak for themself. In regard to kit design I want to go with a similar base kit as GMK 9009 had because I think that it was a nearly perfect set. Therefore this set will have icon mods and the text bottom row. The color will remain in olivetti style. The price of this set will most likely be cheaper than 9009 (which already had a perfect value imo) because this set doesn't have the accent keys. With 150 moq 9009 sold for 135€ at mykeyboard.eu + shipping and we'll most likely stay below that. I can't give you a US price right now because of the conversion rates but you should have an idea at what I'm aiming.

(https://i.imgur.com/HtAadTH.png)


More
That is the 9009 base kit which will be similar to what I'm aiming for this set:
(https://i.imgur.com/HU74WuR.jpg)
Current layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/qtw627m.jpg)

Space bar kit:
(https://i.imgur.com/ObcxwUP.jpg)



Short summary

To-do-list:


And now only the google form is left. Please fill it out (you don't need a google account for it) so that I have an idea about the size of interest, else it'll be rather difficult to find a vendor. Any kind of feedback can be placed in the google form or in the thread here.

Google form for feedback: https://goo.gl/forms/lMlQWgWvMlW7mKLT2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: a_ak57 on Mon, 19 March 2018, 09:42:19
Does GMK already have the molds for greek alphas?  Otherwise I feel like 9009 pricing isn't entirely realistic, though I readily admit I have zero idea about how any of that works.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 09:45:16
Quote from: a_ak57 on Mon, 19 March 2018, 09:42:19
Does GMK already have the molds for greek alphas?  Otherwise I feel like 9009 pricing isn't entirely realistic, though I readily admit I have zero idea about how any of that works.

Yes, GMK owns the original molds which Cherry used to produce the Olivetti board, these molds will be used for this set too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: blerc on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:16:28
All good, but the Ç should be replaced with ς, as the first symbol is Turkish, not Greek
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:36:17
Quote from: blerc on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:16:28
All good, but the Ç should be replaced with ς, as the first symbol is Turkish, not Greek


Sadly it looks like Cherry used the wrong legend when making the greek molds, both of their greek keysets use the wrong legend on the W letter. Replacing the mold will get expensive so I'm not sure if that's really viable :/ Also I realized that this set won't have barred homing keys at the moment because that would need two new molds too. Those will most likely be skipped in this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:44:21
if the subs aren't doubleshot i'm not interested
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:48:10
Molds are pretty affordable, 150€ each, so 1€ per set at 150moq, which imo is reasonable for getting the set "correct". Also, I would like to argue in favor of text+icon mods, not only because I personally think they look better, but also because that's what is on that board you have shown right there, so it's "correct" for the set.

Quote from: Puddsy on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:44:21
if the subs aren't doubleshot i'm not interested
(https://i.imgur.com/WBuNCuK.png) (https://i.imgur.com/WBuNCuK.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: blerc on Mon, 19 March 2018, 12:44:09
Quote from: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:36:17
Sadly it looks like Cherry used the wrong legend when making the greek molds, both of their greek keysets use the wrong legend on the W letter. Replacing the mold will get expensive so I'm not sure if that's really viable :/ Also I realized that this set won't have barred homing keys at the moment because that would need two new molds too. Those will most likely be skipped in this set.

If what Donut says is correct, you can also change/revise the Ψ letter. I have looked for it in the past, and although helvetica font family has a Greek set, there is none for the Helvetica Round, the one used in the above Latin/Greek keyset. It seems that they just made those letters out of the latin ones, and the letter Ψ is more curvy than the usual. looks like a ω with a | on it :P

Let me know if there's anything I could help you with.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 13:23:13
I've made some mockups with icon+text and icon only mods and I personally prefer the icon mods. For me many of the sublegends look like art and in that context the simplistic icon mods work the best. And breaking with the past is not always a bad thing, eg we don't want to use the CTRL legend anymore (even if someone proposed to use this cap as an additional accent key  ^-^ ). Also GMK 9009 broke with the original set. G80-9009 boards are the root of all evil and include the icon+text 1,25u shift key which looks like ****. On these keys the legend doesn't even fit the key.

Regarding the legends: 3 people already complained about the W cap so I consider to make a new legend here. We could also think about doing barred homing but that would require two new molds too, at the moment I tend to skip that and just go with scoops.
Other things that I'm currently thinking about:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 19 March 2018, 15:40:58
If the sub legends are doubleshot I'd like this, even if it ends up not being Olivetti.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:12:02
Very very cool. I was discussion a set like this with Blerc a few months ago :P

My only suggestion if you decide to go with the 9009-style kit: change the / and * keys on the numpad to the correct obelus and multiplication symbols.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:16:31
Ive been wanting someone to run this set for years, so you have my interest. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:17:51
Quote from: hineybush on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:12:02
Very very cool. I was discussion a set like this with Blerc a few months ago :P

My only suggestion if you decide to go with the 9009-style kit: change the / and * keys on the numpad to the correct obelus and multiplication symbols.

What's the correct legend for you? * and / seems to be the normal american way, Germans have x and ÷. I guess both are right in their own way, a German numpad also has a , key instead of a . key so it's a regional thing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: Geek Maker on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:00:25
Maybe the color-way become custom color with sub-legend finally.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:31:22
Quote from: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:17:51
Quote from: hineybush on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:12:02
Very very cool. I was discussion a set like this with Blerc a few months ago :P

My only suggestion if you decide to go with the 9009-style kit: change the / and * keys on the numpad to the correct obelus and multiplication symbols.

What's the correct legend for you? * and / seems to be the normal american way, Germans have x and ÷. I guess both are right in their own way, a German numpad also has a , key instead of a . key so it's a regional thing.

I prefer x and ÷, as more recent sets have been using
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 20 March 2018, 05:24:51
Quote from: hineybush on Mon, 19 March 2018, 20:31:22
Quote from: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:17:51
Quote from: hineybush on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:12:02
Very very cool. I was discussion a set like this with Blerc a few months ago :P

My only suggestion if you decide to go with the 9009-style kit: change the / and * keys on the numpad to the correct obelus and multiplication symbols.

What's the correct legend for you? * and / seems to be the normal american way, Germans have x and ÷. I guess both are right in their own way, a German numpad also has a , key instead of a . key so it's a regional thing.

I prefer x and ÷, as more recent sets have been using

Alright, I wasn't aware that people were using it regulary now. As I'm always using boards with this kind of numpad, I'll include it in the first layout mockup :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: kmba on Tue, 20 March 2018, 05:56:01
I'd be interested if it weren't olvetti.  Not a fan of that colorway.  Perhaps a good opportunity to make a nice BoW set that uses an actual white color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: hansichen on Wed, 21 March 2018, 10:32:08
New google poll regarding the layout: https://goo.gl/forms/6fl6hUnMBUcai1yk1


2 days have passed so it's time to share the first results of the IC. Overall 59 people want to buy 1 set, 4 people wanna buy 2 sets and 2 people want to buy more than 5 sets, that would make more than half of the moq. This probably excludes potential buyers from Korea and China as those are mostly not active on the western market.
I'm pretty happy about all the interest, I didn't expect such a positive feedback, thanks for your support.

As the first big update I want to present you the first layout design and a new poll regarding the design choice of the Navigation-keys. Here you can see the layout:

(https://i.imgur.com/qtw627m.jpg)


Also I've made a first space bar kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/ObcxwUP.jpg)


This layout uses the old Cherry icon style navigation keys which were used by Cherry on French keysets.
Here you can see the doubleshot version of these keys: https://deskthority.net/w/images/c/c3/G80-2100HDF_001.jpg
This is how it looks with olivetti colors, be aware that this board is a dyesub board and the icons don't look as sharp as on a doubleshot board: https://i.imgur.com/IzlMgpl.jpg

Here you can find the new poll about layout decisions: https://goo.gl/forms/6fl6hUnMBUcai1yk1

Thanks again for your interest and support!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: midnight2903 on Wed, 21 March 2018, 10:58:35
Form submitted. Slightly interested :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: jebbra on Wed, 21 March 2018, 23:31:18
This is interesting. Didn't know GMK still have those moulds. While you use icon mod like 9009, I don't think it is wise to use only home - page up - page down in con and have the rest nav cluster text, kinda awkward.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: hansichen on Thu, 22 March 2018, 16:38:23
Quote from: jebbra on Wed, 21 March 2018, 23:31:18
This is interesting. Didn't know GMK still have those moulds. While you use icon mod like 9009, I don't think it is wise to use only home - page up - page down in con and have the rest nav cluster text, kinda awkward.

I agree that a full icon mod look would be nicer but they don't exist so far. I personally still like the legends and especially on 65% boards and on numpads it looks awesome :D As this is not an easy decision I'm collecting the feedback by the community to achieve the best possible result  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: pkzheng on Sun, 25 March 2018, 08:36:27
I think GMK already has the full icon set. Check out the "Red Honey" set from originativeco.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: switchnollie on Sun, 25 March 2018, 13:15:56
Quote from: pkzheng on Sun, 25 March 2018, 08:36:27
I think GMK already has the full icon set. Check out the "Red Honey" set from originativeco.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/R_406_2017-06-22_1024x1024.png?v=1518244055)

I think just use the Windows logo instead of the honeycombs since no Honeywell and it will look sweet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: hansichen on Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:45:38
Thanks for sharing the picture, I completly forgot about this set. I personally have to say that I'm not really a fan of the delete, insert, pause, scrolllock and print screen button, also with this legends we would be forced to use a numpad kit without sublegends. Not really a perfect solution.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 25 March 2018, 15:01:52
Quote from: hansichen on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:36:17
Quote from: blerc on Mon, 19 March 2018, 11:16:28
All good, but the Ç should be replaced with ς, as the first symbol is Turkish, not Greek


Sadly it looks like Cherry used the wrong legend when making the greek molds, both of their greek keysets use the wrong legend on the W letter. Replacing the mold will get expensive so I'm not sure if that's really viable :/ Also I realized that this set won't have barred homing keys at the moment because that would need two new molds too. Those will most likely be skipped in this set.

Wrong legends, not interested. Nice idea though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: mago on Sun, 25 March 2018, 15:05:20
Definitely interested in this set :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: pkzheng on Mon, 26 March 2018, 05:28:13
Quote from: hansichen on Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:45:38
Thanks for sharing the picture, I completly forgot about this set. I personally have to say that I'm not really a fan of the delete, insert, pause, scrolllock and print screen button, also with this legends we would be forced to use a numpad kit without sublegends. Not really a perfect solution.

Yes. At least take the arrow style End key please.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:45:59
Interesting  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: metal369 on Tue, 17 April 2018, 02:00:02
What color code will be used? Maybe custom color needs for  this keyset.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 17 April 2018, 04:04:21
Custom colors are not planned for this set. This set will use the same colors as gmk blue alert.
I'm a bit busy currently but I'll try to submit the layout to gmk this week for a render.
After the initial feedback I plan to fix the ç key and navigation cluster will be changed to text legends. Page Up/Down will be used too instead of the common PgUp/PgDn legends.

Blue alert uses U9 (modifiers), L9 (alphas) and V4 (accent keys and legends, the accent keys have U9 legends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: avid on Tue, 17 April 2018, 07:26:35
Nice. Just a question, you mentioned these will be double-shot. Do GMK have the molds for alphas? Else i think it would be very expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 17 April 2018, 09:38:06
Quote from: avid on Tue, 17 April 2018, 07:26:35
Nice. Just a question, you mentioned these will be double-shot. Do GMK have the molds for alphas? Else i think it would be very expensive.

Yeah, they have "all" of the original Cherry molds
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 17 April 2018, 17:42:42
Quote from: hansichen on Tue, 17 April 2018, 04:04:21
Custom colors are not planned for this set. This set will use the same colors as gmk blue alert.
I'm a bit busy currently but I'll try to submit the layout to gmk this week for a render.
After the initial feedback I plan to fix the ç key and navigation cluster will be changed to text legends. Page Up/Down will be used too instead of the common PgUp/PgDn legends.

Blue alert uses U9 (modifiers), L9 (alphas) and V4 (accent keys and legends, the accent keys have U9 legends.

+1 Keep the original beige colors.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 18:30:55
I think the vertically aligned legends look really awesome, especially with these languages and icons. R5 would be cool if the cost isn't prohibitive
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: gnunin on Mon, 23 April 2018, 23:53:28
Love me some sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 April 2018, 21:11:55
Any update? I really want this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 27 April 2018, 01:55:54
+1 on want.  Tried to get such set through OG Olivetti keyboard, but couldn't find one in good enough condition
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: hansichen on Sat, 28 April 2018, 11:08:01
I'm still working on it :) I hope to recieve a render of the set soon  ;D  Once I recieved it I'll give an update here
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 29 April 2018, 02:33:36
I really want this set to happen as well! Can't wait for the renders.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: hansichen on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:30:44
Finally it's time for another update  ;D
Today I recieved the first render by GMK.


Let's sum up all the stuff that happened lately:
- Nav-cluster icon mods were removed after receiving feedback in the last google form
- The greek "C-style-sigma"-sublegend on the W key should be fixed now.
- 1.5u diamond key mold doesn't exist so far, therefore I'm considering to cut true HHKB support. GMK 9009 had those keys and only a handful of people seem to use these keys. Making a new mold for this key seem to be a bit overkill for something that people hardly use. The usage of "super" instead of the diamonds is not an alternative imo cause the "super" legend is too long to fit the 1u keys properly.
- Blue accent keys are displayed with L9 legend color, this should be U9 and is an error right now.
- The iso R4 <> key will loose the | sublegend as it will look way nicer without it. With <> this will have a nice uniform look together with the left aligned legends of the alphas.


I hope I haven't overlooked any errors, if so you'll hopefully tell me  ;)



(https://i.imgur.com/HtAadTH.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: popkorn62 on Wed, 09 May 2018, 15:01:21
oh my GOD! I hope this set will come to life. I love the Greek sublegends!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #1 21.03)
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 09 May 2018, 15:03:12
Quote from: hansichen on Wed, 09 May 2018, 13:30:44
Finally it's time for another update  ;D
Today I recieved the first render by GMK.


Let's sum up all the stuff that happened lately:
- Nav-cluster icon mods were removed after receiving feedback in the last google form
- The greek "C-style-sigma"-sublegend on the W key should be fixed now.
- 1.5u diamond key mold doesn't exist so far, therefore I'm considering to cut true HHKB support. GMK 9009 had those keys and only a handful of people seem to use these keys. Making a new mold for this key seem to be a bit overkill for something that people hardly use. The usage of "super" instead of the diamonds is not an alternative imo cause the "super" legend is too long to fit the 1u keys properly.
- Blue accent keys are displayed with L9 legend color, this should be U9 and is an error right now.
- The iso R4 <> key will loose the | sublegend as it will look way nicer without it. With <> this will have a nice uniform look together with the left aligned legends of the alphas.


I hope I haven't overlooked any errors, if so you'll hopefully tell me  ;)



Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HtAadTH.png)



I'm interested! Although, I agree with Donut about going Icon+Text mods. Will probably join either way, though, if the price is right.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: sorijealut on Wed, 09 May 2018, 15:13:58
Yeah, very much interested in this. Looks amazing and great updates so far.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 10 May 2018, 01:49:44
This is a better transliteration than the one used in this GB, it's the most used by linguists

[attachimg=1]


this is the gb transliteration

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: LeoShi on Thu, 10 May 2018, 03:49:52
 ;D I need this！
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: allancuttingedge on Thu, 10 May 2018, 04:36:13
I'm in this, will join the GB for sure if it happens, this might be my third GMK Olivetti lol :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 09:28:11
I respectfully suggest to include the R3 acute accent and tilde key to support the XT layout. Considering the vintage nature of the set it fits well.

(https://i.imgur.com/8T9AV6B.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MklK5mr.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: rrRes on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:02:05
Yeeees! I'm in..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: hansichen on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:06:19
Quote from: Giorgio on Thu, 10 May 2018, 01:49:44
This is a better transliteration than the one used in this GB, it's the most used by linguists


this is the gb transliteration


I'm not sure what you want to tell me but if you would like to see the sublegends positions changed that will obviously not happen. Else we should run this as a colemak/dvorak only set too, right?


Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 09:28:11
I respectfully suggest to include the R3 acute accent and tilde key to support the XT layout. Considering the vintage nature of the set it fits well.

It's very unlikely that this key will be added as I don't see anybody using it, sorry
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:18:31
Thank you for your answer. I might be one of those anybody. Of course. There have been a few recent sets that have included it, so far so good.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: hansichen on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:21:54
Which sets did include that key? A lot of sets have this key as a R1 key in modifier color but I can't recall seeing it as a R3 key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 10 May 2018, 14:13:24
Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 09:28:11
I respectfully suggest to include the R3 acute accent and tilde key to support the XT layout. Considering the vintage nature of the set it fits well.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8T9AV6B.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MklK5mr.jpg)


due to your ****ty layout choices now I have a keyset with a ****ing double keycap
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 10 May 2018, 16:39:47
I love that you intend to revive the Greek Olivetti set with the fixed W-key sublegend and icon mods.
The one thing that would really make this amazing would be true Olivetti blue instead of V4. But who knows what can be done in terms of MOQ and colour matching work to make this reality.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:24:48
Quote from: hansichen on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:21:54
Which sets did include that key? A lot of sets have this key as a R1 key in modifier color but I can't recall seeing it as a R3 key.



Sorry for the late answer. I was out with wify celebrating Mothers' day, which is the ten of may in the Country I live in now. Upcoming Vala's GMK Electric and Kekkon's GMK Dolch that is already fulfilled come with it.
(https://i.imgur.com/MUM42cr.png?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/hjqtfk0.png)


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:30:48
Quote from: Giorgio on Thu, 10 May 2018, 14:13:24
Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 09:28:11
I respectfully suggest to include the R3 acute accent and tilde key to support the XT layout. Considering the vintage nature of the set it fits well.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8T9AV6B.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MklK5mr.jpg)


due to your ****ty layout choices now I have a keyset with a ****ing double keycap



I'll be very happy to buy it from you, if you do not want it. For less than a dollar I think it may be of very little harm to a full set, but I understand where your comment comes from. We are always bothered by keys we really do not have a use for in GMK sets. In my case, being a sixty user I do not use the central nine block, the number pad, neither the function keys. But I am happy I can support full sets manufacturing that may not be available at all, if we do not contribute to them. After all, we are a community of enthusiasts, we are  not simple commodity buyers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: hansichen on Fri, 11 May 2018, 12:04:36
Quote from: kekstee on Thu, 10 May 2018, 16:39:47
I love that you intend to revive the Greek Olivetti set with the fixed W-key sublegend and icon mods.
The one thing that would really make this amazing would be true Olivetti blue instead of V4. But who knows what can be done in terms of MOQ and colour matching work to make this reality.


Thanks for your feedback. True Olivetti colors would be a nice thing but as you already mentioned this would raise the moq which could harm this set.


Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:24:48
Quote from: hansichen on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:21:54
Which sets did include that key? A lot of sets have this key as a R1 key in modifier color but I can't recall seeing it as a R3 key.



Sorry for the late answer. I was out with wify celebrating Mothers' day, which is the ten of may in the Country I live in now. Upcoming Vala's GMK Electric and Kekkon's GMK Dolch that is already fulfilled come with it.
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It's only a hobby, you don't have to feel obliged to send an immediate reply ;) Interesting that some countries have Mothers' day, in my country it's the day of men  ;D
Thanks for sharing these examples, it's an interesting idea to go with this key and I'll keep it in mind. But as the usage is probably rather low chances are small that I'll include it in the end, sorry :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 11 May 2018, 14:37:02
Quote from: hansichen on Fri, 11 May 2018, 12:04:36
Quote from: kekstee on Thu, 10 May 2018, 16:39:47
I love that you intend to revive the Greek Olivetti set with the fixed W-key sublegend and icon mods.
The one thing that would really make this amazing would be true Olivetti blue instead of V4. But who knows what can be done in terms of MOQ and colour matching work to make this reality.


Thanks for your feedback. True Olivetti colors would be a nice thing but as you already mentioned this would raise the moq which could harm this set.


Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:24:48
Quote from: hansichen on Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:21:54
Which sets did include that key? A lot of sets have this key as a R1 key in modifier color but I can't recall seeing it as a R3 key.



Sorry for the late answer. I was out with wify celebrating Mothers' day, which is the ten of may in the Country I live in now. Upcoming Vala's GMK Electric and Kekkon's GMK Dolch that is already fulfilled come with it.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MUM42cr.png?1)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hjqtfk0.png)


It's only a hobby, you don't have to feel obliged to send an immediate reply ;) Interesting that some countries have Mothers' day, in my country it's the day of men  ;D
Thanks for sharing these examples, it's an interesting idea to go with this key and I'll keep it in mind. But as the usage is probably rather low chances are small that I'll include it in the end, sorry :(

Everything is fine. You should not be sorry, as you stated, it is only a hobby.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: hansichen on Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:49:25
Short update: the 1.5u diamond keys will probably be replaced by super keys to keep the price down. As these keys are only used on hhkb builds it shouldn't be a problem to mix diamond and super in a set. I'll submit these changes to GMK soon and then we'll have the final set render, if there are any important changes now it's the time to adjust them.

The current layout and other changes can be seen in this post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94733.msg2606060#msg2606060

Also I'm working together with a vendor to make this set happen, stay tuned for future updates :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 17 May 2018, 02:10:21
Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:30:48
Quote from: Giorgio on Thu, 10 May 2018, 14:13:24
Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 09:28:11
I respectfully suggest to include the R3 acute accent and tilde key to support the XT layout. Considering the vintage nature of the set it fits well.

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due to your ****ty layout choices now I have a keyset with a ****ing double keycap



I'll be very happy to buy it from you, if you do not want it. For less than a dollar I think it may be of very little harm to a full set, but I understand where your comment comes from. We are always bothered by keys we really do not have a use for in GMK sets. In my case, being a sixty user I do not use the central nine block, the number pad, neither the function keys. But I am happy I can support full sets manufacturing that may not be available at all, if we do not contribute to them. After all, we are a community of enthusiasts, we are  not simple commodity buyers.

It's not that I'm simply "bothered" by it, it's on my keyboard I have two identical keycaps, due to your choices. You can't buy it. You'd need to send me a <> in white on black on the "z" row.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 17 May 2018, 07:34:08
Quote from: Giorgio on Thu, 17 May 2018, 02:10:21
Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:30:48
Quote from: Giorgio on Thu, 10 May 2018, 14:13:24
Quote from: ideus on Thu, 10 May 2018, 09:28:11
I respectfully suggest to include the R3 acute accent and tilde key to support the XT layout. Considering the vintage nature of the set it fits well.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8T9AV6B.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MklK5mr.jpg)



due to your ****ty layout choices now I have a keyset with a ****ing double keycap



I'll be very happy to buy it from you, if you do not want it. For less than a dollar I think it may be of very little harm to a full set, but I understand where your comment comes from. We are always bothered by keys we really do not have a use for in GMK sets. In my case, being a sixty user I do not use the central nine block, the number pad, neither the function keys. But I am happy I can support full sets manufacturing that may not be available at all, if we do not contribute to them. After all, we are a community of enthusiasts, we are  not simple commodity buyers.

It's not that I'm simply "bothered" by it, it's on my keyboard I have two identical keycaps, due to your choices. You can't buy it. You'd need to send me a <> in white on black on the "z" row.

No group buy for a white on black set has taken any input from me, I do not know what are you talking about. However, I may have one key that fits your needs, let me check my stock and if I have one and you are willing to pay the shipping cost is yours.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: avid on Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:47:08
Is there any ETA on when this will run? Really like this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 02 July 2018, 04:20:20
I finally recieved updated renders which I want to share  :D

Base kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/JMS9WtJ.png)

Space bar kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/mjEcRWu.png)


The kit design is finished now. I hope that I can give some more infos about when this gb will go live soon. I hope that we manage to run this gb this summer  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #3 2018.07.02)
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 17 July 2018, 13:50:07
Short update: the gb will start shortly (probably this week if nothing goes wrong). EU store will be candykeys, proxys tba. GB will be open for a month so that everybody has a chance to join even when he's in summer vacation right now :)

More details soon  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: RSC on Tue, 17 July 2018, 14:05:47
Looks amazing! Also, it's very good to see you are giving basic ISO UK support in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: catamscott on Tue, 17 July 2018, 15:53:42
oof, got this, metaverse, and space cadet on my radar with the funds to maybe get two. this is looking super good though, probably too good to pass up
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 17 July 2018, 16:18:43
Quote from: hansichen on Mon, 02 July 2018, 04:20:20
I finally recieved updated renders which I want to share  :D

Base kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JMS9WtJ.png)


Space bar kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mjEcRWu.png)



The kit design is finished now. I hope that I can give some more infos about when this gb will go live soon. I hope that we manage to run this gb this summer  ;D


Two comments:


Molds for 2.25 and 2.75 units space bars are in the making. You may explore if the Greek's space bars may use them. Also, I strongly encourage you to consider a Northy kit. This set is so classic that it deserves to be fully covered.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:21:36
Quote from: ideus on Tue, 17 July 2018, 16:18:43
Quote from: hansichen on Mon, 02 July 2018, 04:20:20
I finally recieved updated renders which I want to share  :D

Base kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JMS9WtJ.png)


Space bar kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mjEcRWu.png)



The kit design is finished now. I hope that I can give some more infos about when this gb will go live soon. I hope that we manage to run this gb this summer  ;D


Two comments:


Molds for 2.25 and 2.75 units space bars are in the making. You may explore if the Greek's space bars may use them. Also, I strongly encourage you to consider a Northy kit. This set is so classic that it deserves to be fully covered.

As far as I know these molds are not available for GMK space cadet which runs this summer, they'll only be available with GMK Cabron which runs at some time in fall. Therefore this set is too early for the new space bar keys :(

A norde kit won't happen with me, we already had several tries to his moq on those and it never worked out. We'll keep the profit margin on this set very small so there is no room to buy up the moq. Maybe there is hope for a norde kit if there'll be a rerun of GMK blue alert on originative.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:24:39
Quote from: catamscott on Tue, 17 July 2018, 15:53:42
oof, got this, metaverse, and space cadet on my radar with the funds to maybe get two. this is looking super good though, probably too good to pass up

Haha yeah, I know the issue, there are a lot of group buys currently. I personally think this one is unique and special cause greek legends are not widely used so far. Japanese legends have been part of many sets (laser and especially serika) and Space Cadet will run as red cadet in 2019 (which is imo way nicer than the blue  ;D). I'm personally really looking forward to some new sublegends on the market and I hope that we can succeed with this group buy  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: LeoShi on Tue, 17 July 2018, 18:19:01
definitely in  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #2 2018.05.09)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 17 July 2018, 18:30:21
Quote from: hansichen on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:21:36
Quote from: ideus on Tue, 17 July 2018, 16:18:43
Quote from: hansichen on Mon, 02 July 2018, 04:20:20
I finally recieved updated renders which I want to share  :D

Base kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JMS9WtJ.png)


Space bar kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mjEcRWu.png)



The kit design is finished now. I hope that I can give some more infos about when this gb will go live soon. I hope that we manage to run this gb this summer  ;D


Two comments:


Molds for 2.25 and 2.75 units space bars are in the making. You may explore if the Greek's space bars may use them. Also, I strongly encourage you to consider a Northy kit. This set is so classic that it deserves to be fully covered.

As far as I know these molds are not available for GMK space cadet which runs this summer, they'll only be available with GMK Cabron which runs at some time in fall. Therefore this set is too early for the new space bar keys :(

A norde kit won't happen with me, we already had several tries to his moq on those and it never worked out. We'll keep the profit margin on this set very small so there is no room to buy up the moq. Maybe there is hope for a norde kit if there'll be a rerun of GMK blue alert on originative.

[/size]Alright, it seems that we will have no R4C for this set then.[size=78%]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 18 July 2018, 06:52:50
Quote from: hansichen on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:24:39

and Space Cadet will run as red cadet in 2019 (which is imo way nicer than the blue  ;D).

Wait, red cadet is confirmed going to happen?

Also oof, this is going to start soon but Metaverse just killed my wallet. What to do  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Wed, 18 July 2018, 08:02:50
Quote from: tanvir175 on Wed, 18 July 2018, 06:52:50
Quote from: hansichen on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:24:39

and Space Cadet will run as red cadet in 2019 (which is imo way nicer than the blue  ;D).

Wait, red cadet is confirmed going to happen?

Also oof, this is going to start soon but Metaverse just killed my wallet. What to do  :-\

I hope it'll happen: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94003.msg2637583#msg2637583
That makes it easier for me to pass Space Cadet, the blue is not really my taste so the red version will be way better for me  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 18 July 2018, 08:26:28
Quote from: hansichen on Wed, 18 July 2018, 08:02:50
Quote from: tanvir175 on Wed, 18 July 2018, 06:52:50
Quote from: hansichen on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:24:39

and Space Cadet will run as red cadet in 2019 (which is imo way nicer than the blue  ;D).

Wait, red cadet is confirmed going to happen?

Also oof, this is going to start soon but Metaverse just killed my wallet. What to do  :-\

I hope it'll happen: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94003.msg2637583#msg2637583
That makes it easier for me to pass Space Cadet, the blue is not really my taste so the red version will be way better for me  ;D
:eek: :eek:Hope that's not just a prank lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Wed, 01 August 2018, 18:15:51
Any news?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Thu, 02 August 2018, 02:51:35
I'm sorry for the silence. Communication with proxy stores was rather slow and there are few more details to discuss. Sorry for the delays but expect an update soon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Sat, 04 August 2018, 16:51:00
Quote from: hansichen on Thu, 02 August 2018, 02:51:35
I'm sorry for the silence. Communication with proxy stores was rather slow and there are few more details to discuss. Sorry for the delays but expect an update soon


Don't dare to remain silent that long again.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Sun, 05 August 2018, 11:55:16
Quote from: ideus on Sat, 04 August 2018, 16:51:00
Quote from: hansichen on Thu, 02 August 2018, 02:51:35
I'm sorry for the silence. Communication with proxy stores was rather slow and there are few more details to discuss. Sorry for the delays but expect an update soon


Don't dare to remain silent that long again.  :))

 :blank:

Hopefully I have all final details soon
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Sun, 05 August 2018, 16:16:33
Quote from: hansichen on Sun, 05 August 2018, 11:55:16
Quote from: ideus on Sat, 04 August 2018, 16:51:00
Quote from: hansichen on Thu, 02 August 2018, 02:51:35
I'm sorry for the silence. Communication with proxy stores was rather slow and there are few more details to discuss. Sorry for the delays but expect an update soon


Don't dare to remain silent that long again.  :))

 :blank:

Hopefully I have all final details soon


Your design rocks. Jokes aside. Take all the time you need to get this to the GB stage. It is a uniqute set that real KB collectors cannot let it to pass.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Wed, 08 August 2018, 15:28:44
Group buy will go live on Friday. EU vendor is candykeys and US vendor novelkeys and zfrontier will be China proxy  ;D  Final details like pricing etc will be released when the gb goes live.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: catamscott on Wed, 08 August 2018, 16:16:05
Quote from: hansichen on Wed, 08 August 2018, 15:28:44
Group buy will go live on Friday. EU vendor is candykeys and US vendor novelkeys and zfrontier will be China proxy  ;D  Final details like pricing etc will be released when the gb goes live.

nice! super excited for this  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 August 2018, 21:46:52
Quote from: hansichen on Wed, 08 August 2018, 15:28:44
Group buy will go live on Friday. EU vendor is candykeys and US vendor novelkeys and zfrontier will be China proxy  ;D  Final details like pricing etc will be released when the gb goes live.


 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: LeoShi on Thu, 09 August 2018, 01:11:58
 :)) Ready for this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 14:52:04
Despite having the original set, I'm tempted to get this one as well for the extra modifiers...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 14:57:33
Plate, PCB, case, switches are all important in a KB. Yet, the only thing you actually see at and type on are the keycaps. Nothing is more elegant than OG Beige and its gorgeous variations like Greek Olivetti. Consider yourself warned.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 15:06:28
Crap pic, here is what the OG set looks like on a Duck Eagle V1:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/475762727034290188/20180126_163347.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 15:07:39
Quote from: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 15:06:28
Crap pic, here is what the OG set looks like on a Duck Eagle V1:

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/475762727034290188/20180126_163347.jpg)



It is only me, or it is yellowed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:47:27
It's yellowed a bit, yeah. :(

The picture makes it much worse than it actually is, imo. My room has a very yellow light.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:55:03
Quote from: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:47:27
It's yellowed a bit, yeah. :(

The picture makes it much worse than it actually is, imo. My room has a very yellow light.


The kit looks great though. Yet, a retrobrithing could make them to look awesome.


It appears that the IC's legend color is a bit off the original, that seems to be darker, right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 17:11:18
Quote from: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:55:03
Quote from: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:47:27
It's yellowed a bit, yeah. :(

The picture makes it much worse than it actually is, imo. My room has a very yellow light.


The kit looks great though. Yet, a retrobrithing could make them to look awesome.


It appears that the IC's legend color is a bit off the original, that seems to be darker, right?
Thank you. And yes, that seems to be the case. The legends in the pics for the GB seem to be more traditional blue, while the set I have has legends that are more of a navy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 17:12:58
Quote from: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 17:11:18
Quote from: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:55:03
Quote from: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:47:27
It's yellowed a bit, yeah. :(

The picture makes it much worse than it actually is, imo. My room has a very yellow light.


The kit looks great though. Yet, a retrobrithing could make them to look awesome.


It appears that the IC's legend color is a bit off the original, that seems to be darker, right?
Thank you. And yes, that seems to be the case. The legends in the pics for the GB seem to be more traditional blue, while the set I have has legends that are more of a navy.


I'd encourage the OP to consider making the legends closer to the original and darker.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: brooklynlou on Thu, 16 August 2018, 14:48:30
Agree with the prior posts on it needing to be more navy than blue

When is the GBslated to start?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 17 August 2018, 13:48:56
Who will be the US/NA vendors?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Fri, 17 August 2018, 15:12:49
Quote from: LightningXI on Fri, 17 August 2018, 13:48:56
Who will be the US/NA vendors?


Novelkeys will be the US vendor.
The gb is already live on candykeys ( https://www.candykeys.com/product/gb-gmk-greek-olivetti/ ) and zfrontier ( https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-olivetti ). It should go live on novelkeys soon but this is out of my hands right now. Once it's live on novelkeys I'll submit the gb thread and close this one.


Quote from: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 17:12:58
Quote from: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 17:11:18
Quote from: ideus on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:55:03
Quote from: DJSwayde on Wed, 15 August 2018, 16:47:27
It's yellowed a bit, yeah. :(

The picture makes it much worse than it actually is, imo. My room has a very yellow light.


The kit looks great though. Yet, a retrobrithing could make them to look awesome.


It appears that the IC's legend color is a bit off the original, that seems to be darker, right?
Thank you. And yes, that seems to be the case. The legends in the pics for the GB seem to be more traditional blue, while the set I have has legends that are more of a navy.


I'd encourage the OP to consider making the legends closer to the original and darker.

You are right, the original set has darker legends which won't be part of this group buy. The colour scheme used in this set is known as the gmk olivetti colours afaik. I only realised the colour difference when we already had gmk quotes. Using a non-standard colour would raise the moq to 250 and I'm not sure if this group buy is able to hit that moq. Also I personally don't have an OG Olivetti set so it's rather difficult to get everything right. I hope you can understand the decision. I'm sure that we'll end up with a very nice keyset. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: mgsickler on Mon, 20 August 2018, 11:10:40
I was literally just informed that I was asked to be the proxy yesterday (August 19th). Sorry about the delay! We are now live on my site though.

https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/group-buys/products/gmk-greek-olivetti-gb
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Greek Olivetti (Update #4 2018.07.17) GB soon
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 20 August 2018, 14:54:42
Oh, I'm sorry for the misscommunication :( Thanks for your work  :)

GB thread is submitted and should be visable soon here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97079.0
This topic will be locked for now, please use the gb threads.