Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 05:32:24
Hello folks!
Maybe one of you know me run custom sleeve for keyboard before with you can custom design on your sleeve as you want with cheap price.
Here's the idea :
1. I will make inside of bag like whitefox did with this one
(https://imgur.com/6y5oOoA.jpg)
2. I will put handle like tx bag
(https://imgur.com/mGyW51s.jpg)
3. Add extra foam like pelican case did so you can customize size of hole to fit your keyboards
(https://imgur.com/7YXIdZR.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/Lcdt90N.jpg)
4. I will use spill proof fabric like i use on my custom sleeve, and you can use image as you want for this bag.
(https://imgur.com/XIqolXC.jpg)
Estimated Price : $30-$35
What to do :
- Size will we use for this bag (Is it 1 bag for every size of keyboard or 1 bag for more than 1 keyboards)
- Get Moq at least 30 pcs for this run
- Make sample (I will do it on may)
Update:
- 27 April
Ok so i got confirmation from my vendor, if we go with different size we need 30 moq of each size. So it think i will make 1 fit for (40%, 60%, 65%) and second will fit for (75%,TKL,Compact and 1800). I will make form ASAP.
- 1 May (1)
- The size will be fix 440x220x70mm and 370x170x70mm. I can't make other size until i get big order because 1 size need 1 mould and 1 MOQ.
- Fabric canvas need to change because they told me i must use stretch fabric. And this is will be hard to customize image.
- I will make 4 sample this time with big size all of them, Here's the detail sample i will make :
1. Use seamless pattern image
2. Use Non seamless image and different on both side
3. Use text on corner of the bag
4. Use 2 solid color on Back and Front bag
I will print new fabric and will be ready this weekend so i can make prototype next week.
If prototype look good we will run GB on 14 May
- 1 May(2)
I check shipping fee through website it's about $50-$55 /pcs for EMS
I'm already contact them to see if i can use different service to decrease the cost.
1. The option is use ocean service need more time but will be cheaper.
2. Use another service beside EMS with cheaper cost.
3. Send them in cargo and find some proxy for Conus and Europe.
Let me know how much you can pay for shhipping fee /pcs?
So let me know what do you think on this one.
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 05:34:09
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 26 April 2018, 05:37:15
Interested
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 05:38:49
What dimensions will you offer?
Interested
This is what we need to talk on IC phase.
I will make form later to easy collect data
Post by: Petch on Thu, 26 April 2018, 05:43:39
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 April 2018, 07:08:18
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 07:13:52
Great idea! If you provide the most common sizes (HHKB, 65-68% and TKL for me) then I'll definitely buy 2 or 3 at the estimated price.
I was thinking to make it at 1 size 50x20x10cm and would be fit until 1800 layout keyboard. And you can customize inner padding use foam like pelican case did.
But if my vendor can do multiple size and combine them in the same order moq. I would go for diffrent size support.
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 07:14:41
Interested for one or two
Thanks man! Let's see until make the sample.
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 26 April 2018, 07:19:20
What dimensions will you offer?
Interested
This is what we need to talk on IC phase.
I will make form later to easy collect data
Well i'm interested in a 96% or 60%, not sure yet
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 26 April 2018, 07:23:00
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 April 2018, 07:40:46
I was thinking to make it at 1 size 50x20x10cm and would be fit until 1800 layout keyboard. And you can customize inner padding use foam like pelican case did.
But if my vendor can do multiple size and combine them in the same order moq. I would go for diffrent size support.
Oh yea that'd work too, of course the latter solution would be easier for the customer but either would be just fine, I'd say.
Post by: phorx on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:47:58
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:54:12
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:18:23
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Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:19:44
Post by: Keebmeupscotty on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:48:05
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:53:49
Somewhere in the 15-20 range depending on final price.
50 * 20 * 10 is big enough for even my largest keyboards.
Post by: sodiumjoe on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:02:52
Post by: Mechboards on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:12:28
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:41:55
Post by: ___q on Thu, 26 April 2018, 10:50:20
In terms of sizing, I'd prefer the smaller side of things (TKL, 65, 60). You could probably make a 65%-sized case work for both 65 and 60 easily enough. But putting a TKL in a larger-than-TKL-sized case starts to get unwieldy.
Post by: vtachkov on Thu, 26 April 2018, 12:26:49
Post by: M on Thu, 26 April 2018, 12:34:41
Post by: Kafka on Thu, 26 April 2018, 12:52:21
Post by: mago on Thu, 26 April 2018, 13:36:02
Post by: PotatoTM on Thu, 26 April 2018, 15:22:41
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 26 April 2018, 16:55:47
I use your sleeves on a daily basis and would love to get 2-3 of these for my ve.a and sx60 <3
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 26 April 2018, 17:49:44
Any idea what shipping would be like for these in the CONUS?
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 26 April 2018, 17:57:54
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 26 April 2018, 18:22:32
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:02:19
Ok so i got confirmation from my vendor, if we go with different size we need 30 moq of each size. So it think i will make 1 fit for (40%, 60%, 65%) and second will fit for (75%,TKL,Compact and 1800). I will make form ASAP.
Post by: speedyzy on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:09:14
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:13:17
Interested in two for 60/65% sizes. I'd prefer smaller size overall rather than a TKL-sized with foam.
Any idea what shipping would be like for these in the CONUS?
Ussually i send custom sleeve is $20 but i'm not sure this one will charge by volume or not.
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:14:27
I'd be interested in several sized for 65%, and several sized for larger keyboards. I wouldn't be interested in using a larger case padded out with lots of foam for a 65%, but I still have use for some of the larger cases. I'm very interested in seeing how the prototype turns out. Given the low MOQ you're talking about, would you consider running multiple rounds so we can try them out and come back for more?
For multiple round probably i will did. But not every month like custom sleeve.
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:16:18
Definitely interested in this depending on how the pricing turns out. I'd be interested in sizing closer to 40x16x5cm interior for 96key.
Post by: crcstig on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:17:36
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Post by: sodiumjoe on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:34:58
I think it would also be cool to have a Velcro patch on the outside to add a custom patch.
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:39:17
Do you have a color way in mind? Personally I would prefer all black. And if there was an option for no handle, I would prefer that as well.I print it first on white canvas, so basically you can put color as you want. Yes you can remove the handle if you want. And for patch i need to think it first because it will lot to do.
I think it would also be cool to have a Velcro patch on the outside to add a custom patch.
Post by: sodiumjoe on Thu, 26 April 2018, 23:40:51
Thanks for the quick reply. I misread your original post and did not realize you were offering custom designs. I think that's actually way better so probably don't worry about the Velcro patch. Thanks!Do you have a color way in mind? Personally I would prefer all black. And if there was an option for no handle, I would prefer that as well.I print it first on white canvas, so basically you can put color as you want. Yes you can remove the handle if you want. And for patch i need to think it first because it will lot to do.
I think it would also be cool to have a Velcro patch on the outside to add a custom patch.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 27 April 2018, 00:02:49
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 27 April 2018, 16:47:09
Post by: foxmancore on Mon, 30 April 2018, 04:59:56
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 30 April 2018, 05:07:24
Once you have prototypes and at a reasonable price and shipping, youll get alot of orders including from me :))
Post by: yasintahir on Mon, 30 April 2018, 05:30:03
i think interest is there even if you have different bag for each size, main thing now is to produce the prototype where most of the IC like this fail to do and then just forget about it.
Once you have prototypes and at a reasonable price and shipping, youll get alot of orders including from me :))
It's hard to get diferrent size on this vendor. Because they charge me with 100 moq of each size.
For price i'm pretty sure it will $30 for smaller size and $35 for bigger size.
The problem is shipping, it will got volume for sure. Maybe i need some proxy to reduce the shipping fee.
Post by: kmba on Mon, 30 April 2018, 06:35:14
Post by: yasintahir on Mon, 30 April 2018, 22:14:11
Please fill that to see what will we get about the size.
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 April 2018, 22:26:49
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 30 April 2018, 22:28:25
I already make the form.
Please fill that to see what will we get about the size.
can you put dimensions? not all tkl boards are the same thickness
Post by: yasintahir on Mon, 30 April 2018, 23:01:35
I put that on form. 440x220mm for big size and 370x170mm for small sizeI already make the form.
Please fill that to see what will we get about the size.
can you put dimensions? not all tkl boards are the same thickness
Post by: Zuology on Mon, 30 April 2018, 23:59:19
Post by: romevi on Tue, 01 May 2018, 00:25:24
Post by: yasintahir on Tue, 01 May 2018, 02:13:12
- The size will be fix 440x220x70mm and 370x170x70mm. I can't make other size until i get big order because 1 size need 1 mould and 1 MOQ.
- Fabric canvas need to change because they told me i must use stretch fabric. And this is will be hard to customize image.
- I will make 4 sample this time with big size all of them, Here's the detail sample i will make :
1. Use seamless pattern image
2. Use Non seamless image and different on both side
3. Use text on corner of the bag
4. Use 2 solid color on Back and Front bag
I will print new fabric and will be ready this weekend so i can make prototype next week.
If prototype look good we will run GB on 14 May
Post by: yasintahir on Tue, 01 May 2018, 06:54:49
I'm already contact them to see if i can use different service to decrease the cost.
1. The option is use ocean service need more time but will be cheaper.
2. Use another service beside EMS with cheaper cost.
3. Send them in cargo and find some proxy for Conus and Europe.
Let me know how much you can pay for shhipping fee /pcs?
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:10:20
That adds up quick. More than $10 a piece in shipping would give me pause.
Post by: Zuology on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:21:15
Bad news is... i check shipping fee through website it's about $50-$55 /pcs for EMS
I'm already contact them to see if i can use different service to decrease the cost.
1. The option is use ocean service need more time but will be cheaper.
2. Use another service beside EMS with cheaper cost.
3. Send them in cargo and find some proxy for Conus and Europe.
Let me know how much you can pay for shhipping fee /pcs?
If you could setup proxy or regional vendors who could buy larger quantities to stock, it may reach higher MOQ and lower base price, and could decrease shipping to buyers by bulk shipping them and then shipping locally/regionally. I feel like these could be of enough interest that vendors would feel comfortable with it, if you approached the bigger names/websites.
Post by: yasintahir on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:24:42
Bad news is... i check shipping fee through website it's about $50-$55 /pcs for EMS
I'm already contact them to see if i can use different service to decrease the cost.
1. The option is use ocean service need more time but will be cheaper.
2. Use another service beside EMS with cheaper cost.
3. Send them in cargo and find some proxy for Conus and Europe.
Let me know how much you can pay for shhipping fee /pcs?
If you could setup proxy or regional vendors who could buy larger quantities to stock, it may reach higher MOQ and lower base price, and could decrease shipping to buyers by bulk shipping them and then shipping locally/regionally. I feel like these could be of enough interest that vendors would feel comfortable with it, if you approached the bigger names/websites.
Yes this is best option so far!
But if we use vendor to stock on their site maybe it will be hard to customize image.
Post by: yasintahir on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:26:15
I'm definitely not keen on spending almost twice as much as the bag costs on shipping, especially as I'm looking for 15-20 of them.
That adds up quick. More than $10 a piece in shipping would give me pause.
Yeah i'm really know this problem.
Hope i can get special price from my local post.
Post by: Zuology on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:34:48
Bad news is... i check shipping fee through website it's about $50-$55 /pcs for EMS
I'm already contact them to see if i can use different service to decrease the cost.
1. The option is use ocean service need more time but will be cheaper.
2. Use another service beside EMS with cheaper cost.
3. Send them in cargo and find some proxy for Conus and Europe.
Let me know how much you can pay for shhipping fee /pcs?
If you could setup proxy or regional vendors who could buy larger quantities to stock, it may reach higher MOQ and lower base price, and could decrease shipping to buyers by bulk shipping them and then shipping locally/regionally. I feel like these could be of enough interest that vendors would feel comfortable with it, if you approached the bigger names/websites.
Yes this is best option so far!
But if we use vendor to stock on their site maybe it will be hard to customize image.
Speaking for myself, the custom image is less of a priority than a well constructed case for a reasonable price. If you ran it in a few different colorways (maybe matching popular keyset colorways, i.e. hyperfuse, dolch, basic black/grey, cyan, etc), I feel it would have broader appeal to a wider audience/market. If you want to do a simple logo/graphic that is universal (MX/Topre switch schematic, cherry keycap profile, etc), that could also be appealing to more people than individualized graphic/print.
Post by: yasintahir on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:43:34
Bad news is... i check shipping fee through website it's about $50-$55 /pcs for EMS
I'm already contact them to see if i can use different service to decrease the cost.
1. The option is use ocean service need more time but will be cheaper.
2. Use another service beside EMS with cheaper cost.
3. Send them in cargo and find some proxy for Conus and Europe.
Let me know how much you can pay for shhipping fee /pcs?
If you could setup proxy or regional vendors who could buy larger quantities to stock, it may reach higher MOQ and lower base price, and could decrease shipping to buyers by bulk shipping them and then shipping locally/regionally. I feel like these could be of enough interest that vendors would feel comfortable with it, if you approached the bigger names/websites.
Yes this is best option so far!
But if we use vendor to stock on their site maybe it will be hard to customize image.
Speaking for myself, the custom image is less of a priority than a well constructed case for a reasonable price. If you ran it in a few different colorways (maybe matching popular keyset colorways, i.e. hyperfuse, dolch, basic black/grey, cyan, etc), I feel it would have broader appeal to a wider audience/market. If you want to do a simple logo/graphic that is universal (MX/Topre switch schematic, cherry keycap profile, etc), that could also be appealing to more people than individualized graphic/print.
Yes you're right.
Post by: Petch on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:44:10
Post by: Zuology on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:48:04
If you reach out to vendors who will be interested in stocking these as inventory, you may be able to have each vendor have their own logo/graphic for the cases that they stock. So for example (I am in US, so will refer to vendor companies/sites I know), 1upkeybooards, Novelkeys, MechanicalKeyboards.com, etc. could have their own logo'd versions.
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:50:37
An EU proxy is the biggest deal for me, $50 shipping is prohibitive - I'd feel comfortable very comfortable paying $50 total per bag (so $30+20 shipping), which I believe would be realistic if you managed to get a few proxies. For example Donutcat has found some proxies to help with his retro coiled cable buy and the prices decrease drastically, I'm sure Mykeyboard, mechboards UK or even Candykeys would potentially be interested in helping far as Europe goes.
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 01 May 2018, 11:14:32
No thanks.
Post by: PotatoTM on Tue, 01 May 2018, 13:53:27
Post by: phorx on Tue, 01 May 2018, 15:18:54
Post by: euphxenos on Tue, 01 May 2018, 15:23:13
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:08:36
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Post by: yasintahir on Wed, 02 May 2018, 00:10:47
I'm also good with dropping the custom image. Gotta get that shipping cost down though... it's REALLY high for something that light.
I know it's light but all shipping company charge with volume metric for big package
Post by: yasintahir on Wed, 02 May 2018, 00:42:53
And price would be $65 shipped for big size and $60 shipped for small size.
There's no way i can reduce the price except for 50 qty.
Or maybe should we go with Massdrop? Of course with some default pattern or color.
Post by: M on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:32:53
I can reduce shipping cost with reduce the height of bag to 6cm.
And price would be $65 shipped for big size and $60 shipped for small size.
There's no way i can reduce the price except for 50 qty.
Or maybe should we go with Massdrop? Of course with some default pattern or color.
Honestly I wouldn't care about what it looks like as long as I don't have to pay above what I'm comfortable with, I think contacting MD is a good idea
Post by: sodiumjoe on Thu, 03 May 2018, 01:19:46
I can reduce shipping cost with reduce the height of bag to 6cm.This is well within the range of what I would pay. I think it'd be nice to have a custom design, but it's not a deal breaker for me to go without. As long as there's an all black or gray colorway
And price would be $65 shipped for big size and $60 shipped for small size.
There's no way i can reduce the price except for 50 qty.
Or maybe should we go with Massdrop? Of course with some default pattern or color.
Post by: darkslay3r on Sat, 05 May 2018, 11:00:28
Post by: scud80 on Sun, 06 May 2018, 01:34:33
Post by: PotatoTM on Wed, 09 May 2018, 16:40:24
Ok.. Here's new update when i visited my vendor today.
- The size will be fix 440x220x70mm and 370x170x70mm. I can't make other size until i get big order because 1 size need 1 mould and 1 MOQ.
- Fabric canvas need to change because they told me i must use stretch fabric. And this is will be hard to customize image.
- I will make 4 sample this time with big size all of them, Here's the detail sample i will make :
1. Use seamless pattern image
2. Use Non seamless image and different on both side
3. Use text on corner of the bag
4. Use 2 solid color on Back and Front bag
I will print new fabric and will be ready this weekend so i can make prototype next week.
If prototype look good we will run GB on 14 May
Any updates on the prototype / Shipping costs?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 09 May 2018, 17:05:28
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 09 May 2018, 18:35:20
I can reduce shipping cost with reduce the height of bag to 6cm.
And price would be $65 shipped for big size and $60 shipped for small size.
There's no way i can reduce the price except for 50 qty.
Or maybe should we go with Massdrop? Of course with some default pattern or color.
What do the numbers look like for a batch of 50?
I can probably rope together enough people in the bay area to make it worth the effort.
Post by: M on Thu, 17 May 2018, 13:44:54
Post by: Ouster on Sat, 19 May 2018, 01:31:08
Post by: phorx on Mon, 04 June 2018, 08:33:28
Post by: JJ on Thu, 07 June 2018, 04:49:22
Post by: yasintahir on Thu, 07 June 2018, 05:06:05
So i will start make prototype early july (i hope so).
And i will decide price if you go with solid color or custom image later.
Post by: watchy0ubac on Thu, 07 June 2018, 05:51:29
I think i need to update this thread.If the price is decent I can definitely see myself getting 1-2 cases with custom images. Hopefully the proto will turn out really nice as well!
So i will start make prototype early july (i hope so).
And i will decide price if you go with solid color or custom image later.
Post by: RobotRogue on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:50:10