Post by: beamingrobot on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:17:43
(https://i.imgur.com/RhTQvEo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J71FmDb.jpg)
more photos (https://imgur.com/a/52W8eL7)
KIRA80 or KIRA TKL is a continuation of the KIRA series of keyboards designed by thesiscamper. We are looking to offer this board for GB in the coming weeks, time and date tbc.
So far here are some possible details:
1. Colours:
Same as EXS offerings, namely black, space grey etc. We might reduce the number of colours but that's tbc.
2. What's included:
PCB by TGR Keyboards, case by thesiscamper, possible numpad included as a set. Maybe a TKL carry bag, depending on supplier's price.
3. Price:
TBC, we're working out the details on this one.
4. WILL THERE BE WKL?
of course lol
4. ISO ISO ISO?
Yes, separate ANSI and ISO plates
5. Plate material?
Same as EXS, brass/poly/alu IIRC
6. Payment?
Still Shopify unfortunately, PayPal has not released my funds since Sept of 2017
7. How can I get it?
Probably raffle, or FCFS tbc.
8. Degree
Well 8 degrees
I'll update this OP as we get closer to GB date and have more details, for now, feel free to ask questions and express your hype for THIS AWESOME TKLLLLLLLLLLLLL :p
Just another form: https://goo.gl/forms/00ZLTTUDOPM5ZGHO2
Post by: schmoktopus on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:19:52
Post by: dantambok on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:21:07
Post by: sroop on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:21:18
Post by: giangpn on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:21:21
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:21:45
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Post by: beamingrobot on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:27:40
Looks good! Will there also be a WKL option? Also, pic of the bottom too please! :D
Is there a WKL option for this GB? Looks great!
What about a Winkeyless case option? It’d be great for covering with nice BSP Keycaps.
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WKL and BSP what is this, the 80s?
yes of course, there will be WKL.
Post by: idlemao on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:28:40
I guess I'll say I like the design, especially that logo on the front. :thumb:
Post by: rowie on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:44:18
ETA: purple cause of the recent SA Troubled Minds set.
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:53:51
How about doing the logo engraving between Esc and F1 instead of above the arrow cluster?
Post by: thelaughingman on Mon, 14 May 2018, 12:23:05
Post by: Jhors2 on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:09:35
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:23:56
I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.
near invisible on my unit ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/mDu9UDM.jpg)
You already know, I'm a fan of your designs, including this one! Not filling out the IC form, because no money! But will be following the progress along with interest.
How about doing the logo engraving between Esc and F1 instead of above the arrow cluster?
I think the logo placement is fine as it is. Also not to downplay the fantastic work beaming is doing on GH recently, but the design is by thesiscamper :)
Post by: YisSerL on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:42:43
Is it same as other KIRA, raffle style?
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:50:09
Does the PCB support ISO?
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:53:30
Post by: fcoury on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:57:07
I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.
Taste is a funny thing, that's what I like about it! :)
Post by: SolidCactus on Mon, 14 May 2018, 14:05:55
Heck yes! :D
Does the PCB support ISO?
Would love to grab one of these if it supported ISO.
Post by: bball2 on Mon, 14 May 2018, 14:50:03
Post by: bciamny on Mon, 14 May 2018, 17:35:57
even if renders only i'd love to see numpad. i think the combo would be amazing as a set. numpad would almost guarantee my want. aldoe when oblotzky shared his board before it already caught my eye.
Post by: M on Mon, 14 May 2018, 17:59:28
Post by: rainb1ood on Mon, 14 May 2018, 18:26:58
Post by: thelaughingman on Mon, 14 May 2018, 20:23:35
No thanks, already got one :-*I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.
near invisible on my unit ;DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/mDu9UDM.jpg)
now this is a photo that should be on the first post. not that protype album shot with that massive gap :eek:
Post by: kokugatsu on Mon, 14 May 2018, 20:32:35
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 14 May 2018, 21:25:31
No thanks, already got one :-*I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.
near invisible on my unit ;DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/mDu9UDM.jpg)You already know, I'm a fan of your designs, including this one! Not filling out the IC form, because no money! But will be following the progress along with interest.
How about doing the logo engraving between Esc and F1 instead of above the arrow cluster?
I think the logo placement is fine as it is. Also not to downplay the fantastic work beaming is doing on GH recently, but the design is by thesiscamper :)
Of course, I now think of them as a team :). But certainly, excellent work, thesiscamper!
This photograph shows off the gem cut facet design so well.
Post by: Windeh on Mon, 14 May 2018, 21:51:24
Also, what is the mounting method for the TKL?
Post by: yap68 on Mon, 14 May 2018, 22:23:07
Post by: Kevadu on Mon, 14 May 2018, 22:26:25
Post by: xondat on Mon, 14 May 2018, 22:46:01
What's it made out of? The original Kira had a plastic (or at least partially plastic, I forget...) version available, didn't it? Will this?
99.99% sure aluminum
Yes
Sincerely doubt it
Post by: sroop on Mon, 14 May 2018, 22:50:08
What's it made out of? The original Kira had a plastic (or at least partially plastic, I forget...) version available, didn't it? Will this?
I think you're referring to the Kira96 - that was by the same designer but produced and ran by input club. The first Kira board (that I'm aware of) that was produced was the 60.
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Post by: Genn on Mon, 14 May 2018, 22:59:17
Post by: beamingrobot on Mon, 14 May 2018, 23:01:35
I'm guessing not, given the design, but is there any possibility of getting a slick diffuser like the EXS has?
What plate options did you have in mind? Any chance of a fixed plate?
Can you elaborate on this?
Oh, I like this. :thumb:
Is it same as other KIRA, raffle style?
Yes sir, or FCFS, still trying to see how we can accommodate more people.
Heck yes! :D
Does the PCB support ISO?
We will have separate ANSI and ISO plates
Looks awesome! Am interested in the color options.
Also, what is the mounting method for the TKL?
top
What's it made out of? The original Kira had a plastic (or at least partially plastic, I forget...) version available, didn't it? Will this?
A L U M I N I U M
As I know, it will be done by EVE. Yes?
Nope, same factory as 60 and EXS
Also, no diffusers, we both don't like diffusers generally speaking and it'll break the facet look thesis is going for.
Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 14 May 2018, 23:20:09
Post by: wowremy on Tue, 15 May 2018, 02:10:19
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 15 May 2018, 02:47:00
Raffle? So, whoever has the most duped emails addresses/IPs gets one?
How does this even make sense? It's 2018 I can sort and remove dupes?
You know I’m all in on this! Fingers and toes crossed for the matching numpad
We're gonna have a proto numpad done first just to make sure everything fits, the PCB for the numpad is also by TGR.
Post by: yap68 on Tue, 15 May 2018, 03:18:21
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 15 May 2018, 09:33:06
Purple case please. :thumb:
ETA: purple cause of the recent SA Troubled Minds set.
Agreed! Other two options I'm in favor of is burgundy and dark green, but don't think they're as universally liked.
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:35:59
Agreed! Other two options I'm in favor of is burgundy and dark green, but don't think they're as universally liked.
Solution: Run this as a raffled FCFS. Raffle off 100 spots and then for those 100 it's FCFS for 50 boards. Everyone loses!
Post by: wowremy on Tue, 15 May 2018, 22:24:51
Post by: xondat on Tue, 15 May 2018, 22:27:43
I make 5 unique emails with 5 different IPs with a new geekhack account on each IP. I could be 4 people in this thread just role playing, talking to myself. How do you know?
If you're enough of a **** to buy 5 and win 5, I'm sure people will be happy to exclude you from anything in the future.
Post by: wowremy on Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:00:13
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:51:23
I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?Boy scouts honour badge.
Post by: Remsky on Wed, 16 May 2018, 00:57:24
I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?They commit seppuku if they break their code of honor.
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 16 May 2018, 05:01:43
I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?
I make 5 unique emails with 5 different IPs with a new geekhack account on each IP. I could be 4 people in this thread just role playing, talking to myself. How do you know?
I think your questions about raffle styled buys could be better posted in another thread or forum, since this IC thread is meant for the discussion and questions about the board. If you have any questions about these types of buys feel free to look through the GB section rules for more info. If someone really wants to go through the trouble to make 5 accounts, 5 ips and talk to themselves come shipping invoice it's a simple matter of refunding that order, and there are bigger problems if someone wants to drop so much money. If this is something that irritates you greatly, you are welcome to not join the buy, since this TKL was meant to be a private buy at first and your attitude does not help any of us here.
Post by: random0987 on Wed, 16 May 2018, 06:13:12
Will there be the option to mix top and bottom case colors, or would that not look good with the geometry of the sides? I’d be down for a dark grey color like you suggested here: https://imgur.com/a/5D5Yg
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 16 May 2018, 06:28:54
Thanks Beaming and Thesis! Excited for the EXS to come out and hope to get in on the TKL.
Will there be the option to mix top and bottom case colors, or would that not look good with the geometry of the sides? I’d be down for a dark grey color like you suggested here: https://imgur.com/a/5D5Yg
We might consider locking down colour combinations to better ensure anodizing quality from the factory, so I think that won't happen. The space grey looks pretty similar IMHO under certain light conditions so that might also be a choice here just like the EXS buy.
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 16 May 2018, 08:16:17
Post by: Puree on Wed, 16 May 2018, 08:17:02
What is the angle for the keyboard please ?
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 16 May 2018, 09:38:37
Hey8 degrees
What is the angle for the keyboard please ?
Post by: Puree on Wed, 16 May 2018, 09:42:32
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 16 May 2018, 10:21:50
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 16 May 2018, 13:40:49
Still really curious what the bottom looks like! :thumb:
Unless the design was changed since the prototype:
(https://i.imgur.com/tMnXrrY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tvjdBz3.jpg)
Post by: wowremy on Wed, 16 May 2018, 19:31:34
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 16 May 2018, 22:31:36
All good buddy, that was a weird tangent to take though :PI shouldnt post in the middle of the night ha. My bad man. Love the boardI'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?I make 5 unique emails with 5 different IPs with a new geekhack account on each IP. I could be 4 people in this thread just role playing, talking to myself. How do you know?
I think your questions about raffle styled buys could be better posted in another thread or forum, since this IC thread is meant for the discussion and questions about the board. If you have any questions about these types of buys feel free to look through the GB section rules for more info. If someone really wants to go through the trouble to make 5 accounts, 5 ips and talk to themselves come shipping invoice it's a simple matter of refunding that order, and there are bigger problems if someone wants to drop so much money. If this is something that irritates you greatly, you are welcome to not join the buy, since this TKL was meant to be a private buy at first and your attitude does not help any of us here.
Some renders of the numpad which I'm sure some of you have seen:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180517/c2821178a5c86621fb38496653d6065a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180517/b96b5108329f0325a44299c5ab75b393.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180517/3ef75937272f499dcd7c561872c529f2.jpg)
Post by: maxf on Wed, 16 May 2018, 23:56:32
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 16 May 2018, 23:57:07
Post by: jlee755 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 15:13:49
Post by: Remsky on Thu, 17 May 2018, 15:30:26
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Post by: schlep on Thu, 17 May 2018, 15:47:37
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 17 May 2018, 15:58:13
Where would the GB ship from?
Singapore
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 17 May 2018, 18:57:15
Also I'm assuming the polycarb case won't be on offer?
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 17 May 2018, 23:06:30
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 21 May 2018, 16:12:25
Post by: Tasteless on Mon, 21 May 2018, 18:37:44
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 22 May 2018, 00:06:16
We're doing a custom PCB, working with yuktsi on this so it won't fit A.87 unfortunately since we're reducing the size of it slightly.
Poly:
Nope on that, poly melts too quickly and the screw holes get threaded/worn out really fast.
On the buy:
I'm currently shipping out some Canoes from that buy, so once that is over I'll be able to give a more concrete date, but as of now I'm aiming to get this started in about 2 weeks. In the meantime, we're looking to reduce the colours offered but increase the quantity and maybe do a FCFS / general GB on monokei. Maybe say, 100 units for TKL and 50 numpads or something like that.
In terms of plate options it should be the same as all KIRA buys, so brass/poly/alu.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 22 May 2018, 00:58:52
, will be tentatively watching out for the buy. The matte grey on Oblotzkys unit is near perfect.
Post by: p_blaze on Tue, 22 May 2018, 06:05:38
Post by: Allo on Wed, 23 May 2018, 20:32:25
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 23 May 2018, 21:24:00
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 24 May 2018, 00:37:08
100 units
Do note that the matte grey was a proto finish and did not feel good, so it would probably look more like the previous KIRAs.
Do you plan on making a wrist rest for this?
Not at the moment since it's TKL, should be easy to find wrist rests.
What firmware with the custom PCB run (please say QMK)?bootmapper
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 25 May 2018, 08:29:29
Do note that the matte grey was a proto finish and did not feel good, so it would probably look more like the previous KIRAs.
Aww that's a shame, are you referring to the physical texture it left?
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 25 May 2018, 08:58:46
Do note that the matte grey was a proto finish and did not feel good, so it would probably look more like the previous KIRAs.
Aww that's a shame, are you referring to the physical texture it left?
Yup, it feels kinda weird, like some anti-slippery surface. There is resistance when sliding your fingers over it, but not due to roughness. It's hard to describe.
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Sun, 27 May 2018, 23:01:56
Would love to see a white colour option.
Post by: goodman247 on Mon, 28 May 2018, 01:37:32
Post by: regionfree on Tue, 29 May 2018, 19:19:28
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Post by: Chimera on Wed, 30 May 2018, 13:07:49
Just out of curiousity is the PCB from the EXS also done by TGR Keyboards
Post by: mioraka on Wed, 30 May 2018, 18:36:34
Question, this will just be the kit with no switches included, correct? Will this need soldering to assemble?
Apologize if that's a dumb question. Only bought keycaps before, never keyboard kits.
Post by: sroop on Wed, 30 May 2018, 18:39:33
Registered just for this.You will need to source the switches, stabilizers and keycaps separately to complete the build. Soldering is required for the switches.
Question, this will just be the kit with no switches included, correct? Will this need soldering to assemble?
Apologize if that's a dumb question. Only bought keycaps before, never keyboard kits.
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Post by: vonswoopington on Wed, 30 May 2018, 23:57:40
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Post by: Sinistra on Thu, 31 May 2018, 15:06:19
Post by: Wetherbee on Thu, 31 May 2018, 20:22:41
Please please please remove the logo.
It completely ruins the design for me.
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 31 May 2018, 20:32:19
Please please please remove the logo.
It completely ruins the design for me.
I really like the logo! This is what I love about mechs—everyone in polar disagreement.
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 31 May 2018, 20:33:05
Post by: Chimera on Thu, 31 May 2018, 21:55:34
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 01 June 2018, 00:14:21
Well if that's what you like well then do I ever have a story for you!
Please please please remove the logo.
It completely ruins the design for me.
I really like the logo! This is what I love about mechs—everyone in polar disagreement.
Back on track regarding this IC: so is that poly Kira I see on insta a one off? Just wanted to confirm if decisions were changed regarding the use of poly.
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 01 June 2018, 05:28:42
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Post by: bciamny on Fri, 01 June 2018, 21:55:18
Poly is one off, screws strip way too easily to make it feasible.
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have poly case makers explored using plastic screws for poly boards? just a thought. :)
Post by: aya3154 on Fri, 01 June 2018, 22:11:16
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 01 June 2018, 23:28:17
Poly is one off, screws strip way too easily to make it feasible.
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have poly case makers explored using plastic screws for poly boards? just a thought. :)
MxSS is using brass standoffs if i remember right.
Post by: speedemonv12 on Sat, 02 June 2018, 20:15:47
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Post by: elDuderino on Tue, 05 June 2018, 09:53:10
if it does go to raffle, does you have a rough sense of how many people you'd expect to enter? wondering what my odds are ;D
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 06 June 2018, 01:08:40
I'm trying to get a few additional things confirmed before the GB starts, so apologies if this looks delayed. It will be well worth it :)
Here's how the numpad would look like:
(https://i.imgur.com/B1WbnfH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QtsoZWx.jpg)
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Post by: Techno Trousers on Wed, 06 June 2018, 23:47:38
Looks great! I want to build a TKL to try out some MX black switches. Maybe something trolly like Box Navies on the Numpad?Well, if you're experimenting, I think this might be an overly expensive way to do it. Maybe start out with a cheap used TKL and solder in some MX black in place of what it comes with? That will also give you practice in soldering.
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:42:40
it would be nice (imo of course) if the logo is filled with color instead of blank like this. I think it's fairly easy to do, too.
imo too, I think this would look fantastic
Post by: giangpn on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:45:14
it would be nice (imo of course) if the logo is filled with color instead of blank like this. I think it's fairly easy to do, too.
imo too, I think this would look fantastic
I've been tempted to do it with my Canoe, prolly fill it with plasti-dip in case I f'd up haha
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Post by: hyperlite218 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 18:23:02
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Thu, 07 June 2018, 18:28:43
Looks great! I want to build a TKL to try out some MX black switches. Maybe something trolly like Box Navies on the Numpad?Well, if you're experimenting, I think this might be an overly expensive way to do it. Maybe start out with a cheap used TKL and solder in some MX black in place of what it comes with? That will also give you practice in soldering.
Post by: Skaazi on Fri, 08 June 2018, 16:48:34
Still really curious what the bottom looks like! :thumb:
Unless the design was changed since the prototype:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tMnXrrY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tvjdBz3.jpg)
It looks so clean and a lot more fitting than the Kira60's sun and stars.
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Post by: Jimmare on Tue, 12 June 2018, 15:13:45
Hoping the pricing will be better than the EXS one..
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 12 June 2018, 15:18:10
Im in for this one,especially the numpad.
Hoping the pricing will be better than the EXS one..
Gonna be roughly about the same afaik. Which is fair because both boards are some serious metal
Post by: cirrus82 on Tue, 12 June 2018, 16:10:28
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 14 June 2018, 15:17:23
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 14 June 2018, 15:40:49
Im in for this one,especially the numpad.
Hoping the pricing will be better than the EXS one..
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that it will be the same, if not more expensive than the EXS. With rising prices of keyboards, as well as the metal they're made with, prices definitely aren't getting better.
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 14 June 2018, 23:12:51
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Fri, 15 June 2018, 05:57:02
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 15 June 2018, 07:50:48
Will there be an option to purchase additional pcbs and plates?
Yeap as always that will be available.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Fri, 15 June 2018, 14:52:45
Will there be an option to purchase additional pcbs and plates?
Yeap as always that will be available.
Farewell paycheck
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Post by: Chimera on Fri, 29 June 2018, 11:54:36
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Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 29 June 2018, 16:42:38
Post by: Chimera on Fri, 29 June 2018, 16:43:53
Excited to see what colors are gonna be offered!
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Post by: aya3154 on Fri, 29 June 2018, 17:55:13
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Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 29 June 2018, 22:11:59
Post by: Chimera on Fri, 29 June 2018, 22:17:30
Is the gb link up? I'm itching to see the colors!Not yet. I'm guessing it's just black, silver, grey, purple, and maybe red or navy. Could be wrong though.
Anyone know how many are for sale?
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Post by: mudcakehoney on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:02:39
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:22:30
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381